Jul 08, 2024 City Commission

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ALL RIGHT, SO THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION IS CALLED TO ORDER.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

NANCY SIKES-KLINE.

HERE. ROXANNE HORVATH.

HERE. BARBARA BLONDER.

HERE. JIM SPRINGFIELD.

HERE. GARRIS.

HERE. ALL RIGHT.

BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I HAVE JUST A COUPLE THINGS.

ONE IS, I'D LIKE TO READ THE RULES OF ORDER IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS.

RULES OF DECORUM WHEN ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE REALLY QUICKLY AND WE'LL WORK ON THESE AND MAYBE STREAMLINE THIS A LITTLE BIT AT FUTURE MEETINGS.

THE SPEAKER MAY NOT ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, BOARD OR COMMITTEE FROM THE AUDIENCE.

THIS IS PERTAINING TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THE SPEAKER MAY ONLY APPROACH THE PODIUM TO SPEAK WHEN RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIRPERSON.

THE SPEAKER MAY NOT APPROACH THE DAIS WITHOUT CHAIRPERSON'S PERMISSION.

THE SPEAKER MUST DIRECT QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AT THE COMMISSION, BOARD OR COMMITTEE THROUGH THE CHAIRPERSON.

THE SPEAKER MUST OBSERVE TIME LIMITS SET FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

THE SPEAKER AT PUBLIC HEARING MUST LIMIT HIS OR HER COMMENTS TO THE SUBJECT OF THE HEARING.

THE SPEAKER MUST AVOID MAKING IRRELEVANT, REPETITIVE, PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS COMMENTS.

SPEAKER VIOLATING THESE RULES OF DECORUM OR OTHERWISE DISRUPTING A MEETING MAY BE GAVELED OUT OF ORDER BY THE CHAIRPERSON, AND IF THE SPEAKER WILLFULLY REFUSES TO ABIDE BY THE LAW, LAWFUL ORDER OF THE CHAIRPERSON TO CEDE THE FLOOR AND CEASE AND DESIST ALL DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, THE SPEAKER MAY BE REMOVED FOR DISRUPTING A PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 871.01 FLORIDA STATUTES.

OKAY, WE GOT THAT OUT OF THE WAY.

AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY BEFORE WE HAVE OUR MOMENT OF SILENCE, I WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT AN OLD FRIEND OF THE CITY SALLY GARDNER, PASSED LAST WEEK.

SHE WAS MAYOR GEORGE GARDNER'S WIFE.

SHE WAS LOVELY.

AND WHENEVER HE WENT ANYWHERE, SHE WAS ALWAYS WITH HIM.

AND JUST JUST SUCH A A GREAT CHAMPION OF THE CITY.

JUST REALLY JUST A FRIEND, A FRIEND, A GREAT FRIEND TO THE CITY.

WHAT MORE CAN I ADD? AND I, AND I KNOW THAT THERE THERE HAVE BEEN FUNERAL NOTICES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN A FUNERAL NOTICE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN NOTIFICATION, AT LEAST ON SOCIAL MEDIA, SO I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT SERVICES, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SHE WAS A GREAT LADY AND SHE'LL BE REALLY SHE'LL BE MISSED BY US. SO WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO CALL A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY VICE MAYOR ROXANNE HORVATH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. PLEASE RISE AND JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME.

NEXT ITEM IS MODIFICATION AND APPROVAL OF REGULAR AGENDA.

[2. ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS]

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY MODIFICATIONS OR CHANGES TO THE REGULAR AGENDA? NO. ALL RIGHT, I MOVE THAT.

WE PASS THE REGULAR AGENDA.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS NEXT.

[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS OR FOR AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING]

IF ANYBODY ELSE IS HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK, PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR CARD.

ROBIN THOMAS IS OUR FIRST SPEAKER.

WELCOME. MISS THOMAS, I THINK YOU KNOW THE DRILL, WILL IF YOU'LL COME OVER, WE'LL GIVE YOU A HANDHELD.

THERE WE GO. PERFECT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M HERE TO READ THE CHARTER FOR COMPASSION.

MY NAME IS ROBIN, AND I RESIDE AT 147 MARTIN LUTHER KING AVENUE.

THE PRINCIPLE OF COMPASSION LIES AT THE HEART OF ALL RELIGIOUS, ETHICAL, AND SPIRITUAL TRADITIONS, CALLING US ALWAYS TO TREAT ALL OTHERS

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COMPASSION IMPELS US TO WORK TIRELESSLY TO ALLEVIATE THE SUFFERING OF OUR FELLOW CREATURES, TO DETHRONE OURSELVES FROM THE CENTER OF OUR WORLD AND PUT ANOTHER THERE, AND TO HONOR THE INEVITABLE SANCTITY OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING, TREATING EVERYBODY WITHOUT EXCEPTION, WITH ABSOLUTE JUSTICE, EQUAL EQUALITY AND RESPECT.

IT IS ALSO NECESSARY, IN BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE LIFE TO REFRAIN CONSTANTLY AND EMPATHETICALLY FROM INFLICTING PAIN.

TO ACT OR SPEAK VIOLENTLY OUT OF SPITE, CHAUVINISM OR SELF-INTEREST.

TO IMPOVERISHED, EXPLOIT OR DENY BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS TO ANYBODY, AND TO INCITE HATRED BY DENIGRATING OTHERS, EVEN OUR ENEMIES.

IT'S A DENIAL OF OUR COMMON HUMANITY.

WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE FAILED TO LIVE COMPASSIONATELY, AND THAT SOME HAVE EVEN INCREASED THE SUM OF HUMAN MISERY IN THE NAME OF RELIGION.

WE THEREFORE CALL UPON ALL MEN AND WOMEN TO RESTORE COMPASSION TO THE CENTER OF OUR MORALITY AND RELIGION, TO RETURN TO THE ANCIENT PRINCIPLES THAT ANY INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE THAT BREEDS VIOLENCE, HATRED, OR DISDAIN IS ILLEGITIMATE.

TO ENSURE THAT YOUTHS ARE GIVEN ACCURATE AND RESPECTFUL INFORMATION ABOUT OTHER TRADITIONS, RELIGIONS AND CULTURES.

TO ENCOURAGE A POSITIVE APPRECIATION OF CULTURAL AND RELIGIOUS DIVERSITY.

TO CULTIVATE AN INFORMED EMPATHY WITH THE SUFFERING OF ALL HUMAN BEINGS, EVEN THOSE REGARDED AS ENEMIES.

WE URGENTLY NEED TO TAKE TO MAKE COMPASSION A CLEAR, LUMINOUS AND DYNAMIC FORCE IN OUR POLARIZED WORLD.

ROOTED IN A PRINCIPLED DETERMINATION TO TRANSCEND SELFISHNESS.

COMPASSION CAN BREAK DOWN POLITICAL, DOGMATIC, IDEOLOGICAL, AND RELIGIOUS BOUNDARIES BORN OF OUR DEEP INDEPENDENCE.

COMPASSION IS ESSENTIAL TO HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS, TO A FULFILLED HUMANITY.

IT IS THE PATH OF ENLIGHTENMENT AND INDISPENSABLE TO THE CREATION OF A JUST ECONOMY AND A PEACEFUL GLOBAL ECONOMY.

GENEVA, SWITZERLAND, FEBRUARY 2009.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT SPEAKER IS BJ KALAIDI.

IT'S NOT ON YET.

AT LEAST.

OKAY. THERE WE GO.

RING GREEN. WE LOVE GREEN.

THAT'S MONEY. GREEN MONEY.

BJ KALAIDI WEST CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THESE ARE MORE BEER CANS FROM OYSTER CREEK PARK.

I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS.

WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED TO THOSE THAT ARE IN CHARGE, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT ON JULY 1ST, 2024, AT OYSTER CREEK PARK.

A FIRE PIT WAS REPORTED TO THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CAD NUMBER IS 144230.

WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAN UP THAT PARK ONCE AGAIN.

SECTION 1878 PROHIBITING FIREWORKS IN THE CITY LIMITS OF SAINT AUGUSTINE WAS VIOLATED.

THIS FACT SHOULD BE NOTED ON WATER BILLS OR REMOVE THE ORDINANCE.

IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER, NOT JUST IN WEST AUGUSTINE.

PLEASE HAVE CITY MANAGER OR ATTORNEY PROVIDE RESULT OF DISCRIMINATION CONCERNS PRESENTED AT THE FEBRUARY 26TH, 2024 COMMISSION MEETING.

AND AS ALWAYS, LISTEN TO 90.5 FM ONCE HOPELESS, LIFE CAN CHANGE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.

[5. CONSENT AGENDA]

COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING.

JULY 22ND, 5 P.M.

REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING AND AUGUST 12TH, 5 P.M.

REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING AND AUGUST 22ND, 9 A.M.

SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING, BUDGET WORKSHOP AND AN AUGUST 23RD, 9 A.M.

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WE HAVE THE APPROVAL.

WE'RE OKAY.

WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 10TH REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

WE HAVE NOTIFICATION OF THE PROCLAMATION 2024 DASH 26, WHICH PROCLAIMS OCTOBER 7TH THROUGH 13TH, 2024 AS FLORIDA CLIMATE WEEK IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

WE HAVE RECOGNITION A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION FOR MISS MYRTLE LOUISE HALL MASON.

WE HAVE THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE NOMINATION FOR THE SELECTION OF MR. WILLIAM BILL DUDLEY AS RECIPIENT OF THE 2024 ORDER OF LA FLORIDA AWARD, AND ADVANCEMENT OF THE NOMINATION FOR THE SELECTION OF PASTOR LAVERNE MARCH AS RECIPIENT OF THE 2024 ORDER OF LA FLORIDA AWARD, AND THAT COMPLETES OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I MOTION APPROVAL.

SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. WONDERFUL MOTION CARRIES.

WE HAVE NO APPEALS TONIGHT.

WE ON TO ITEM SEVEN A WE HAVE ONE GENERAL PUBLIC PRESENTATION, AND THAT IS THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD GIVING MACHINE PRESENTATION

[7.A.1. "Light the World" Giving Machine Presentation and Vendor Contract. (C. Sakryd, Director General Services)]

MR. SACRED.

MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

UNFORTUNATELY, MR. SACRED IS UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS EVENING, SO I WILL BE HUMBLY STANDING IN FOR HIM.

BUT THIS AGENDA ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE VENDOR CONTRACT FOR THE LIGHT THE WORLD GIVING MACHINES, WHICH ARE CHARITABLE MACHINES THAT WILL BE PLACED AT THE VISITOR'S INFORMATION CENTER BETWEEN NOVEMBER 29TH THROUGH DECEMBER 15TH DURING THE HOLIDAYS.

THE LOCATION OF THE MACHINES WAS VETTED THROUGH OUR ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH OUR FIRST AMENDMENT ZONE.

THIS CONTRACT IS BEING APPROVED THROUGH THE CITY AND THE CHURCH OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

AND THIS WAS A SUCCESSFUL PHILANTHROPIC ENDEAVOR THAT OCCURRED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

THEY USED A TRAILER FOR THESE MACHINES.

WE BELIEVE THIS YEAR'S WILL MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT.

THE MACHINES WILL BE FREE STANDING, AND THERE WILL BE A LITTLE PHOTOGRAPH, A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY ADJACENT TO THE MACHINES.

I HAVE MISS GAIL PINNELL, REPRESENTING THE CHURCH OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, IN THE AUDIENCE FOR.

I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE HER AND HAVE HER COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELCOME. AND THE GIVING MACHINES, THE LIGHT, THE WORLD GIVING MACHINES IS INITIATIVE THAT THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS SPONSORS.

WE DO NOT USE IT AS A MISSIONARY OPPORTUNITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF RAISING MONEY FOR LOCAL NONPROFITS THAT I BELIEVE THE SLIDES THAT I SENT TO COREY HAD ALL THE NONPROFITS LISTED, AND ONE OF THEM IS, OF COURSE, THE HOMELESS COALITION OF SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY.

AND THEN WE CHOSE OTHER NONPROFITS FROM DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS SO THAT DONORS MIGHT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FEEL THE INSPIRATION OF GIVING TO OTHERS DURING THE SEASON OF GIVING.

AND, AND IN 2022.

WHEN WE DID THIS, THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS WERE ABLE TO RAISE $51,000 IN JUST FIVE DAYS FOR THE NON-PROFITS THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE GIVING MACHINE.

AND THIS TIME, WHEN WE HAVE 16 DAYS, WE HOPE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HELP THESE FIVE NONPROFITS MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND THEY'RE NOT THE BIG NONPROFITS THAT ARE SPONSORED BY BIG, GIANT CORPORATIONS.

THEY'RE SMALL MEDIUM TO SMALL NONPROFITS.

AND ONE IS FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

ONE IS FOR A FOOD PANTRY, ONE IS FOR REFUGEE CHILDREN, AND ONE IS FOR ADULTS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS, AS WELL AS THE HOMELESS HERE IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL LAST TIME.

IT'S AN EXCITING EVENT.

WE USUALLY HAVE LIKE A LITTLE PHOTO BOOTH AREA WHERE PEOPLE TAKE PICTURES BECAUSE THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR.

WE PLAN JUST A SMALL ONE-HOUR PRESENTATION ON GIVING TUESDAY WHERE THE NONPROFITS CAN ALL TALK ABOUT THEIR CHARITY AND HIGHLIGHT THEM.

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WE DON'T DO ANY OTHER THINGS.

WE DON'T CALL THEM OVER OR ANYTHING.

AND SANTA VISITS FOR PHOTO OPPORTUNITIES, AND THAT'S USUALLY ABOUT IT.

IT'S A REALLY FUN ACTIVITY.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE IT THE LAST TIME WHEN WE DID IT IN 2022, BUT LAST THAT TIME THEY HAD 41 CITIES, AND THEN WE WERE A PILOT PROGRAM.

AND THEN THAT LAST YEAR THEY DID 61 CITIES, AND THIS YEAR IT'S 108 CITIES, INCLUDING NEW YORK CITY, ROCKEFELLER CENTER, WHICH WAS REALLY POPULAR LAST YEAR, AND LONDON, THE PHILIPPINES, HAWAII, COLORADO, CALIFORNIA AND NOW SAINT AUGUSTINE.

OF COURSE YOU APPROVE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC CONCEPT AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU'RE SHARING THAT HERE.

IT'S A GREAT IDEA THAT SOME COLLEGE STUDENTS CAME UP WITH IN 2017 AND SAID, HEY, HOW CAN WE GET PEOPLE TO THINK OF OTHER PEOPLE? AND THEY CAME UP WITH THE VENDING MACHINE IDEA AND WE JUST RAN WITH IT.

SO. AND IT'S NOT THERE'S NO CASH, RIGHT? IT'S ALL, NO, IT'S ALL CREDIT CARDS.

IT'S NOT LIKE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO COME ROB YOU OR, YOU KNOW, AND THE NONPROFITS GET 100% OF THE PROCEEDS AND THE CREDIT CARD FEES ARE COVERED BY THE CHURCH UNLESS THE DONOR WISHES TO PAY THE CREDIT CARD FEES THEMSELVES.

EITHER WAY, THE CHURCH COVERS THOSE DONOR FEES.

SO, IT'S A GREAT WAY THAT PEOPLE WANT TO SAY, I GAVE PAJAMAS AND A CHICKEN AND SOCKS TO SOMEBODY TODAY, YOU KNOW? THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT BACK.

THANK YOU. WELL, LET'S YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT WE HAD A PRESENTATION BY THE LATTER-DAY SAINTS, AND THIS WAS MENTIONED IN THAT.

SO IT SHOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY A NEW CONCEPT TO YOU.

I THOUGHT IT WAS WONDERFUL IN 2022 AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU DO IT AGAIN.

AND WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I WOULD MOVE THAT.

WE APPROVE THE VENDOR CONTRACT.

I SECOND THAT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

NANCY. SIKES-KLINE.

YES. ROXANNE HORVATH.

YES. CYNTHIA GARRIS.

YES. JIM. SPRINGFIELD.

YES. BARBARA BLONDER.

YES. ALL RIGHT.

WONDERFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'LL SEE YOU IN DECEMBER.

ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S MOVE ON TO ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS.

[8.A.1. Ordinance 2024-23: Creates section 11-2 for Florida-Friendly Fertilizer Use on Urban Landscapes and adopts the FDEP Model Ordinance. (A. Owen, Assistant City Attorney)]

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

YES, THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE FERTILIZER ORDINANCE THAT GENERALLY REGULATES THE TIME AND PLACE OF WHEN YOU CAN APPLY FERTILIZERS.

IT ALSO REQUIRES COMMERCIAL APPLICATORS TO GET THAT CERTIFICATION AS WELL.

AND THEN THERE IS GOING TO BE A ROLLOUT OF AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM.

AND THERE'LL BE MORE DETAILS FOR YOU IN THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARING? CAN WAIT UNTIL AFTER PUBLIC.

OKAY, GREAT.

ALL RIGHT. I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS, BUT IF ANYONE'S HERE WISHES TO SPEAK, PUBLIC COMMENT IS OPEN.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.

HEARING NO ONE. SEEING ONE.

NO ONE. PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

COMMENTS, QUESTIONS AND WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME, SO I GO.

I KNOW THAT YOU SAID YOU WENT.

THIS WAS OKAY.

THIS IS THIS IS A VERY NICELY DONE JOB BY OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, MISS OWEN.

SO, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

THERE'S THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THIS WAS TO ADDRESS WATER QUALITY ISSUES AND NOT BE IN THE, FORGIVE THE PUN, SAME BOAT AS OTHER AREAS AROUND THE STATE WHERE THEY'VE HAD SEVERE WATER QUALITY ISSUES.

AND MOST OF THOSE ARE THOSE ISSUES STEM FROM EXCESSIVE NUTRIENTS COMING FROM FERTILIZERS, LAWNS AND SO FORTH.

SO, THIS ORDINANCE IS NICELY CRAFTED, MODELED ON THE FLORIDA DEPT'S ORDINANCE OR LANGUAGE.

I SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT STAFF IN THEIR EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH, DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE MATERIALS THAT THEY TOUCH BASE WITH THE MATANZAS RIVERKEEPER AND THE GTM RESEARCH RESERVE, THEIR OUTREACH.

PEOPLE, I THINK THEY'RE CALLED NO, THEY'RE NOT CALLED OUTREACH.

BUT THEY HAVE SOME FOLKS THERE THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE A LOT OF THIS WORK AND COULD HELP US WITH THE EDUCATIONAL AS WE DEVELOP OUR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM.

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MY ONLY QUESTION IS THAT IN YOUR SUMMARY OF THE ORDINANCE, THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, IT SAYS, FURTHERMORE, THE ENFORCEMENT SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE PROPOSES THAT VIOLATORS BE ISSUED A NON-CRIMINAL COUNTY COURT CITATION THAT IMPOSES A $100 FINE.

IN THE ALTERNATIVE, THE CITY COMMISSION CAN CONSIDER USING THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.

AND AS A MEANS OF ENFORCEMENT.

SO SHOULD SOMEONE VIOLATE THIS THIS ORDINANCE? THERE IS THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES.

AND COULD YOU EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THOSE TWO ALTERNATIVES, THE $100 FINE OR THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE? YES. COMMISSIONER BONNER, AND I THINK THAT THE AGREEMENT LAST TIME WAS TO DO THE NON-CRIMINAL COUNTY CITATIONS.

SO REALLY THAT REALLY GOES TOWARDS THE INDIVIDUAL.

THAT'S BASICALLY VIOLATING THIS ORDINANCE.

AND SO INSTEAD OF DOING THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WHICH WOULD KIND OF REQUIRE US TO GO THROUGH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD AND THEN MAY NOT ALWAYS COVER EVERY SCENARIO GIVEN KIND OF WHERE LIKE IF SOMEBODY, IF AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER WINDS UP APPLYING FERTILIZER TO A CITY SIDEWALK, THAT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO BE A GOOD SCENARIO FOR THAT.

SO IN ORDER TO KIND OF BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER AND A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFECTIVE, WE THIS WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION TO DO THE CRIMINAL SIDE OR NON-CRIMINAL CITATION AND KEEP THE FINE LOWER AS WELL.

SO IT CAN REALLY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EDUCATION IF THE FINE ISN'T TOO CUMBERSOME.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT I GUESS IT'S THE BUSINESS LICENSES FOR THE LANDSCAPING COMPANIES THAT DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY.

HOW WOULD WE REACH OUT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE NOW HAVE THIS IN EFFECT, AND HOW TO AVOID GETTING IN TROUBLE WITH IT? WELL, SOME OF THEM, COMMISSIONER.

DO THEY SHOULD KNOW BECAUSE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY HAS HAD A VERY SIMILAR ORDINANCE IN THE PAST THAT REQUIRES THEM TO HAVE THIS CERTIFICATION.

SO IT'S KIND OF NOT NEW.

IT'S JUST IF YOU'RE IN THE CITY LIMITS AND APPLYING FERTILIZER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU CAN GET YOUR BUSINESS LICENSE FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I HAVE A COMMENT. SO, IN THE PAST, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE'VE HAD THESE KINDS OF NEW ORDINANCES, THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, THE VERY CHALLENGING TO ENFORCE.

AND AS A MATTER OF PRIORITY OF ENFORCEMENT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE CITATION.

THE NON-CRIMINAL CITATION.

FINE. BUT I'M WONDERING, SINCE WE HAVE THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM PLANNED, CAN WE IMPLEMENT THE FINES LATER? CAN WE PUT THAT OFF A LITTLE BIT UNTIL WE HAVE A CHANCE? BECAUSE THIS ORDINANCE, THE WAY IT READS RIGHT NOW IS IT WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE TEN DAYS FROM TODAY.

I THOUGHT, IS IT H.

AND I'M SCROLLING THROUGH, SO I APOLOGIZE.

I'VE GOT TECHNOLOGY BUT H I THOUGHT SAID 90-DAY ROLLOUT DOES IT HH1.

OKAY. THAT'S FOR THE CERTIFICATION THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN THE COMMERCIAL APPLICATOR.

AND THEN JUST KIND OF PIGGYBACKING OFF THAT TO MAYOR WHEN IT COMES TO THE ENFORCEMENT, I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A WARNING FIRST BEFORE YOU GIVE A CITATION.

SO IT'S KIND OF A MAYBE NOT A CIAO, MAYBE A MAY.

AND IF THE COMMISSION PREFERS INSTEAD OF THE TEN DAY, WE COULD DO 90 DAY THAT THE, THE ORDINANCE BECOMES EFFECTIVE.

THE TEN DAY IS THE DEFAULT.

YES. SO, IF.

YEAH, IF THERE'S A CONSENSUS THAT YOU WANT A LONGER ROLLOUT FOR.

I WOULD LIKE A LONGER ROLLOUT.

I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY SOMETHING NEW.

IT'S IT MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE COUNTY, BUT I KNOW IT'S IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, BUT.

AND I KNOW THAT WHEN WE DID THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL BILL, WE GAVE IT QUITE A LONG TIME TO GO OUT AND EDUCATE AND LET PEOPLE KNOW FIRST WITHOUT ISSUING ANY WARNINGS, JUST EDUCATION.

SO IS 90 DAYS WITH THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION IS I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

IS THAT FAIR? YEAH.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

COULD I MAKE A MOTION? YES.

IF YOU MAKE THE MOTION, COULD WE I MOVE THAT WE PASS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-23 SECOND READING, READ BY TITLE ONLY WITH THE MODIFICATION OF A 90 DAY ROLL OUT, RATHER THAN A TEN-DAY ROLLOUT.

EFFECTIVE DATE OF FOR THE EFFECTIVE DAYS.

EFFECTIVE. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE DISCUSSION, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

I'M SORRY, I HAVE TO. YOU HAVE TO READ IT.

SORRY, I DIDN'T WANT TO JUMP IN.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, CREATING CHAPTER 11, ARTICLE ONE, SECTION 11, DASH TWO RELATING TO REGULATION OF FERTILIZER, ADOPTING THE

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PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT.

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.

PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

NOW, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

BARBARA BLONDER. YES.

ROXANNE HORVATH. YES.

CYNTHIA GARRIS. YES.

JIM. SPRINGFIELD. YES.

NANCY. SIKES-KLINE. YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO EIGHT B WHICH IS ORDINANCES.

[Items 8.B.1 - 8.B.3]

OH WE HAVE MISS SKINNER.

WELCOME. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS AMY SKINNER.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

THESE NEXT THREE ITEMS ARE RELATED TO THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION OF PROPERTY NORTH, WEST AND SOUTH OF THE EXISTING CATS PAW MARINA ON NICK'S BOATYARD ROAD. THE ANNEXATION IS RELATED TO APPROXIMATELY 10.38 ACRES IN TOTAL, AT 199 AND 200 NICK'S BOATYARD ROAD.

THIS PROPOSAL HAS MOVED FORWARD WITH TWO VOLUNTARY PETITIONS TO ANNEX AND TWO ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS.

THE FIRST ONE WAS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION IN OCTOBER OF 2023, AND THE SECOND IN MAY OF 2024.

I HAVE SOME MAPS HERE THAT WILL ILLUSTRATE THE PROPERTIES.

THIS FIRST MAP OUTLINES IN WHITE THE EXISTING CAT'S PAW MARINA AT THE END OF NICK'S BOATYARD ROAD.

THE SECOND MAP SHOWS THE EXISTING MARINA, AS WELL AS THE FIRST PROPERTIES THAT WERE PART OF THE FIRST PETITION OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDES, AND THEN, AS YOU CAN SEE, OUTLINED IN RED.

ALONG THOSE AREAS, THAT IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S RELATED TO THE SECOND PETITION TO ANNEX.

SO THIS INCORPORATES BASICALLY THAT EAST END OF NICK'S BOATYARD ROAD.

THE FIRST ORDINANCE THIS EVENING IS ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 24.

IS THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO ANNEX PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY OF APPROXIMATELY TEN ACRES CONTIGUOUS TO THE CITY LIMITS AND ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING CAT'S PAW MARINA. THE SECOND ORDINANCE IS 2024 DASH 25 AND IS PROPOSED TO CHANGE THE LAND USE OF THE PROPERTY.

ALL THE PROPERTIES FROM THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY MIXED USE DISTRICT TO CITY MARINE INDUSTRIAL.

THIS CHANGE WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE PZB ON JUNE 4TH, 2024.

THE THIRD ORDINANCE IS 2024-26, AND IS THE PROPOSED REZONING OF THE PROPERTY FROM SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY, TOURIST OR CHT RESIDENTIAL MOBILE HOME RMH AND OPEN RURAL OR FROM THE COUNTY THOSE COUNTY DESIGNATIONS TO CITY PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

THE CHANGE WAS ALSO RECOMMENDED BY THE PZB ON JUNE 4TH.

THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING AT THE PZB WAS ACTUALLY HELD ON MARCH 5TH RELATED TO THE PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN YELLOW, AND AFTER THAT, THE INITIAL DISCUSSION AT THE PZB, THE OPPORTUNITY, I BELIEVE, B WAS AVAILABLE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO PURCHASE THE ADDITIONAL ACREAGE.

SO, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON JUNE 4TH ACTUALLY INCORPORATED ALL THE PROPERTIES TOGETHER.

THE ATTACHED PUD DOCUMENT INCORPORATES RESPONSES TO COMMENTS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND ITEMS DISCUSSED BY THE PZB.

THE PROPOSED PUD AND ITS PROPOSED USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROPOSED CITY LAND USE DESIGNATION OF MARINE INDUSTRIAL, AND I ALSO HAVE A MAP THAT THAT SHOWS THE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICTS.

OUTLINED IN ORANGE.

VERY SIMPLY, IS THE EXISTING PUD THAT RELATED TO THE EXISTING CAT'S PAW MARINA? YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTH OUT IN RED IS CURRENTLY IN THE COUNTY.

TO THE WEST, IN THIS IN THIS GREEN AREA IS THE RMH AREA.

AND THEN ALSO THERE ARE TWO PIECES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ZONED OR IN THE COUNTY.

ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES WOULD BE REZONED TO THE PUD.

EACH OF THESE ITEMS IS AN INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING FOR THE ORDINANCES, SO THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON EACH ORDINANCE SEPARATELY.

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I ALSO BELIEVE THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PROJECT IS HERE AS WELL.

GREAT. ALL RIGHT, MR. WESTER. NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

I'M SURE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO US.

YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BRAD WESTER. BRAD WESTER.

DRIVER, MCAFEE, HAWTHORNE AND DIEBENOW.

I AM A CERTIFIED LAND USE PLANNER, NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I DO WORK FOR A REAL ESTATE LAW FIRM, SO I NEED TO BE SWORN IN TIME.

I CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

I KNOW THERE'S NO VOTE TONIGHT.

BEING THE FIRST READING.

BUT THE ADDRESS IS ONE INDEPENDENT DRIVE, SUITE 1200.

JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

DO YOU SOLEMNLY. I HAVE TO SWEAR YOU IN.

OKAY, GREAT. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE? IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU.

SO, I HAVE A PRESENTATION HERE.

I'M GOING TO TELL THE WHOLE STORY.

I KNOW YOU KNOW, CAT'S PAW, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING US TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU.

LET ME GET MY EYEBALLS ON.

OKAY, HERE WE GO.

AND I'M CROSSING MY FINGERS.

WE DON'T LOSE POWER.

SO, SLIDESHOW I UNDERSTANDINGS.

WE'RE EXPECTED TO GET 1 TO 2 INCHES AND WE NEED IT IN THE STORM, BUT NOT THE LIGHTNING AND THUNDER.

SO HOPEFULLY THIS IS UP NOW ON THE SCREEN.

LET'S SEE HERE.

THERE WE GO.

OKAY. SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU KNOW, MISS SKINNER TALKED ABOUT THE DATES THAT WE'VE SHOWN THIS PRESENTATION AT THE PREVIOUS PZB HEARINGS AND BEFORE YOU AS WELL.

AND STAFF'S BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH THE CITY ADMINISTRATORS AND CITY MANAGERS AND PLANNING AND ENGINEERING STAFF HAVE BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH ON THIS, AND I THINK WE'VE ACCOMMODATED EACH OTHER'S SCHEDULES.

THIS IS AN EXISTING AERIAL PERSPECTIVE OF THE PROPERTY.

SO, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE AS BUILT CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY IS.

YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING CAT'S PAW MARINA, THE NEW RESTAURANT ON THE WATER, THE DOCKAGE MOORING SPACES, AND THEN THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THE EXISTING CAT'S PAW INFRASTRUCTURE. AS MR. SKINNER ALLUDED TO, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A NEW 10.1 ACRES, ROUGHLY FOR ANNEXATION AND ENTITLEMENTS.

AND ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY LAND TO BE PULLED INTO THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE LAND.

AND IT'S GOING FROM MIXTURE MIXED USE, COMMERCIAL, HIGHWAY TOURISM, RESIDENTIAL, MOBILE HOME AND OPEN RURAL TO THE EXISTING MARINE, INDUSTRIAL AND OPEN LAND.

AND THEN THE PUD ZONING.

AND I'LL GO INTO ALL THOSE DETAILS AND YOU SEE THE PREVIOUS APPROVALS THERE, INCLUDING THE MOST RECENT ONE LAST YEAR 2023 DASH 20, WHICH PULLED IN ROUGHLY AN ACRE INTO THE CITY. AGAIN, HERE IS THE OVERALL MAP.

THE WHITE BEING THE EXISTING CAT'S PAW PROPERTY.

THE YELLOW WAS THE CURRENT ANNEXATIONS UNDERWAY, AND THEN THE MOST RECENT ONE, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THE PELLISSIER TRACT THAT WE CALL IT THE NEW ANNEXED LAND THERE IN ORANGE. AND SO ALL OF THESE COLLECTIVELY TOGETHER ARE ABOUT 9.92 ACRES.

THESE ARE THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING MAPS.

AND SO YOU SEE THE LAND USE THERE.

IT'S MIXED USE ALL THE WAY AROUND IN SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY, WHICH IS REALLY A BROAD REACHING RANGE IN THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR ALLOWABLE USES.

AND THEN THE ZONING, WE HAVE A MOBILE HOME USE OPEN RURAL AND THEN COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURISM.

OUR USES WILL BE ENCLOSED BOAT STORAGE FLEX COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL SPACE, PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS AND WATERFRONT ACCESS.

WHICH I'LL GET INTO IN A MINUTE.

BOARDWALKS, DOCKS, LANDSCAPING, PARKING AND THEN THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT FOR STORMWATER.

THE ABUTTING PROPERTY REDEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THE BOAT RENTAL, STORAGE AND COMMERCIAL OFFICE TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS THE OLD INTRACOASTAL/PELLISSIER POINT MARINA.

IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN DEVELOPED SINCE THE 40S AND 50S.

AND NUMEROUS UNKEMPT STRUCTURES.

VEHICLES, BOATS, MISCELLANEOUS EQUIPMENT, GARBAGE, AND THEN ROUGHLY TEN SEPTIC TANKS THAT WE WILL BE PULLING OUT AND PUTTING IN, TYING INTO CITY WATER SEWER.

WHY EXPANSION? WHY TEN MORE ACRES? WELL, THE EXISTING CAT'S PAW IS DATED CIRCA 2005, 2006, THE ORIGINAL APPROVALS, AND THERE IS 16,749 REGISTERED RECREATIONAL BOATS IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY OF LAST YEAR'S NUMBER, 2023.

THEY DON'T HAVE THIS YEAR'S NUMBERS OUT YET.

50,000 PLUS REGISTERED BOATS IN THE ABUTTING COUNTIES ALONE.

1 MILLION PLUS REGISTERED BOATS IN FLORIDA, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES.

THERE ARE 1006 BOATS ADDED BETWEEN 2019 AND 2023.

AND THAT DOES INCLUDE THE COVID YEARS, WHICH WAS A REALLY HIGH INCREASE IN BOAT OWNERSHIP.

AND THEN 80% OF THOSE BOATS ARE THE SWEET SPOT, AS I LIKE TO CALL IT, WHICH ARE BETWEEN 12FT AND 39FT IN LENGTH.

AND THEY'RE VERY GOOD FOR IDEAL DRY STACK STORAGE.

THIS WILL BE A DRY MARINA, NOT A WET MARINA, IF YOU WILL, FOR.

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THERE ARE LIMITED STORAGE OPTIONS LOCALLY BECAUSE OF RESTRICTIONS WITH HOAS.

DRIED STORAGE IS SAFER, MORE RESILIENT THAN A WET MARINA STORAGE.

ONLY TWO DRY STACK STORAGE OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE LOCALLY, AND THEY'RE AT CAPACITY WITH CURRENT WAITLISTS INCLUDING OURS.

LUCKILY, THE BOATING POPULARITY, LOCATION, WATERFRONT COMMUNITY, THE QUALITY-OF-LIFE INDEXES IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY ALONE IS NUMBER ONE IN HEALTH RATINGS.

NUMBER ONE QUALITY OF LIFE, TOP 1 OR 2 IN SCHOOL SYSTEMS. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY BOAT RAMP IN REGIONAL PARK THAT'S GOING TO BE UNDERWAY NEXT DOOR IN THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS.

AND THEN YOU SEE THE RANKINGS.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, BOATING IS A SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTOR.

THIS IS A CURRENT DATA FROM THE NATIONAL MARINE MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A $31.3 BILLION ANNUAL ECONOMIC IMPACT.

AND THIS IS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA ALONE.

109,000 PLUS JOBS.

7000 BUSINESSES SUPPORTED.

SO YOU SEE THE IMPACTS OF THE RECREATIONAL BOATING INDUSTRY AND THE TANGENT EFFECTS ON THE ECONOMY.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A PICTURE OF MINE FROM THE BOATING MAGAZINE.

I GET CALLED THE BOAT US, AND IT SHOWS NUMBER TWO ON THE LIST AT 47.3 BILLION BOATING AS FAR AS ANNUAL ECONOMIC IMPACT BY INDUSTRY SEGMENT.

AND YOU SEE, NUMBER ONE IS RV ING.

SO, IT SITS PERFECTLY IN FLORIDA BECAUSE WE'RE A PENINSULA.

THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP.

WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS IF WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT IT DOES SHOW THE COUNTY REGIONAL PARK AREA.

IT SHOWS CAT'S PAW.

IT SHOWS ALL THE SURROUNDING USES AT THE INTERSECTION THERE WITH ALL THE RESTAURANT, RETAIL AND SHOPPING AND SO FORTH, AND THEN THE OFFICE COMPLEXES.

THIS IS A SURVEY SKETCH OF OUR ANNEXATION REQUEST PROPERTY ABOUT 10.1 ACRES.

AND THIS IS THE ANNEX PROPERTY CONDITIONS AS THEY SIT TODAY.

NOW A LOT OF THIS HAS BEEN CLEANED UP.

SO, THESE PICTURES ARE A FEW MONTHS OLD.

SO, YOU KNOW, MAIER THERE ON THE LEFT HAS BEEN CLEANED UP.

AND A BUNCH OF OTHER THESE LEAKY OIL ENGINES AND EVERYTHING, TIRES, IT WAS JUST DECADES AND DECADES AND DECADES OF NON-CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS. YOU CAN SEE THIS.

AND THEN THE LATEST PELLISSIER PROPERTY THERE, YOU CAN SEE NUMEROUS STRUCTURES.

MOBILE HOMES, ABANDONED VEHICLES WITH VEGETATION, TREES GROWING THROUGH THEM.

YOU CAN SEE THE RED CEDAR TREES THAT ARE HACKED BECAUSE OF THE FP&L POWER LINE.

SO THESE ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AS THEY SIT AROUND THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE CONSERVATION ZONE MAP.

AGAIN. WE GOT OUR CONSERVATION ZONE OVERLAY APPROVED AT PZB LAST MONTH.

AND THEN THE WETLANDS AND LAND COVER MAP.

WE ARE NOT IMPACTING ANY WETLANDS ON THE PROPERTY, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO SAY THAT.

SO, ALL THE PROPERTY WILL BE REDEVELOPED IN THE UPLANDS.

AND THIS IS A DEPICTION OF OUR CAT'S PAW MARINA PUD CONCEPT.

SO, THIS WILL BE CARRIED FORWARD AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE AND LEGISLATION.

WITH THE ANNEXATION, THE LAND USE AND THE ZONING, IF YOU BE APPROVED AND I CAN COME BACK TO THIS FOR THE VERY THE SPECIFICS ON IT RELATED TO ACCESS AND PARKING SOME OF THE HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENTS WE RECEIVED FROM YOU GUYS IN THE PAST, AND PZB WERE TO KIND OF HAVE A MORE DETAILED SITE DATA CHART OF, FOR INSTANCE, THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RATIO, LOT COVERAGE PARKING RATIOS, WHAT'S WHERE AND HOW DOES IT WORK? THIS IS SHOWING THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.

SO I'M SORRY, THE PERVIOUS SURFACES.

SO YOU SEE THE GREEN IS THERE IS ALL THE THE GREEN SPACES, THE OVERLAY THERE IN THE GREEN FOR LANDSCAPING AND TREES AND SO FORTH.

SO, YOU CAN KIND OF GO BACK AND YOU SEE, IT'S HARD TO DEPICT EXACTLY WHAT'S WHAT.

BUT ONCE YOU PUT THE GREEN SPACE IN PLAY WHERE THE TREES AND ALL THE MITIGATION REALLY IS A REALLY SOUND PROJECT.

THIS IS A, WE'VE HAD FULL TREE SURVEY THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

AND SO, THIS IS A DEPICTION OF THE TREES THAT WE WILL PROTECT.

AND THEN THE MITIGATION OF THE TREES THAT WILL BE WE WILL PUT BACK ON THE PROPERTY.

THESE THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO THESE, BUT THESE ARE INDIVIDUAL KIND OF SEGMENTS OF THE PROPERTY.

SO, THIS IS THE NORTH AND NORTHWEST AREA.

THIS IS THE KIND OF CENTER MASS OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THIS IS THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

AFFECTIONALLY, WE CALL THIS THE GENOVAR AREA, THE GENOVAR PARCEL IF YOU WILL.

AND THIS IS THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF ALL THE MITIGATION RATIO THAT OUR LICENSED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND ARBORIST HAVE ALL PUT TOGETHER FOR THE MITIGATION OF THE TREES.

AND THEN THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THAT.

SO, THIS IS THE PUD SITE PLAN.

WE HAVE A DEFICIT OF TREES REMOVED OF 213.5.

WE HAVE A MITIGATION CREDIT OF PRESERVED TREES OKAY, OF 275.

WE HAVE A MITIGATION CREDIT FOR THE REPLANTING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON SITE.

IN ADDITION TO THE PRESERVED TREES WAS 297.

SO, WE HAVE A, THE DELTA.

THERE IS 572 OF CREDITS, MINUS THE 213 OF THE TREES NEEDING TO BE REMOVED.

THAT LEAVES US WITH 358 HALF CREDITS TOTAL.

AND SO, WE'RE WHAT WE'RE REPLANTING IS ABOUT 30% LIVE OAKS, 30% RED CEDAR CYPRESS AND PALM AND ELM AND THEN 40% SOUTHERN MAGNOLIA.

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WE ARE ALSO REMOVING EIGHT INVASIVE CAMPHOR TREES OUT THERE.

THIS IS OUR ARCHITECT AND ARTIST PERSPECTIVE OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS REALLY MIRRORS THE PUD.

SO, WHAT THEY DID WAS TOOK SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PLANS, THE PUD, AND THEN PUT IT INTO KIND OF A GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION ARTISTICALLY TO SHOW IT.

AND WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS AS WELL.

HERE'S A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF IT.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS TRIED TO KIND OF HAVE THAT WATERFRONT SPACE NOT ONLY BE SERVE A PURPOSE FOR THE BOATS ITSELF, BUT FOLKS PATRONIZING THE PROPERTY.

SO IF YOU SEE THIS LITTLE AREA THAT IS IT LOOKS LIKE KIND OF MORE OF A ROTUNDA, KIND OF A AMPHITHEATER AREA THAT'S KIND OF MORE OF A WAYFINDING GATHERING SPACE FOR FOLKS COMING FROM THE COUNTY'S REGIONAL PARK UP THE SIDEWALK PATH OR VISITING IT FROM THE VARIOUS PARKING LOTS OR THE RETAIL CENTER DOWN THE SIDEWALKS ONTO THE PROPERTY.

IT CAN STEER THEM IN VARIOUS DIRECTIONS, WHETHER TO PATRONIZE THE RESTAURANT, THE BOARDWALK, WHICH WILL BE A DEDICATED BOARDWALK.

EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT THERE BY BOAT, IT'LL BE MORE OF AN OBSERVATION BOARDWALK, AND THEN THEY CAN GO DOWN TO THE REGIONAL PARK AS WELL.

SO, WE THINK IT'S A GREAT THING THAT REALLY ENHANCES THE WATERFRONT FOR PATRONS THAT MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE THERE TO UTILIZE THE RESTAURANT OR BOATING, BUT THEY JUST WANT TO PATRONIZE THE SPACE.

THIS IS ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE OF IT THAT MOST OF THESE ARE EXISTING DOCKAGE AND MOORING AREAS.

WE WILL BE MODIFYING THEM SLIGHTLY JUST BECAUSE IT HAS NOT EVER BEEN ENHANCED SINCE ABOUT 2005.

AND BEFORE THAT, THAT LONG DOCKAGE SPACE WAS DECADES BEFORE THAT AS WELL.

SO, WE'RE DOING SOME BETTERMENT PLANS TO THAT DOCKAGE AREA.

AND THIS IS FACING FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH.

PLEASE CONTINUE.

THANK YOU. AND THEN THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE FROM THE REALLY THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF OUR PROPERTY FACING TO THE SOUTHEAST.

SO THIS IS THE BOARDWALK THAT WILL BE DEDICATED FOR PATRONS WALKING OUT.

AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT SEPARATES ITSELF FROM THE BOATS THAT WILL BE MOORED AND COMING FROM OFFSHORE FISHING AND SO FORTH.

AND ALLOWS FOLKS A LITTLE BIT MORE ORIENTATION AND SAFE PASSAGE AND WAYFINDING THAT AREN'T PARTICIPATING ON A BOAT OR FISHING OR ON THE FLOATING DOCK NEXT TO IT.

SO WE THINK IT'S AN ENHANCEMENT TO THAT.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S ALL COMMINGLED.

AGAIN, A DEPICTION OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH JUST THE ENHANCED SPACE OF THE OBSERVATION AREA.

AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS OUT THERE IS THE 312 BRIDGE AND THEN THE COUNTY'S PARK LAND TO THE RIGHT THERE.

AND YOU SEE THERE'S THE BUILDINGS TO THE LEFT, WHICH IS OVER IN THE KIND OF LINCOLNVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU WILL, WITH SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL, THE MARINE INDUSTRIAL USES OVER THERE. THIS ONE I PROMISED PREVIOUSLY LAST YEAR, AND I'M SHOWING IT AGAIN.

THIS CAME UP IN SOME OF THE MEETINGS.

AND IT REALLY DOES IS OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T STOP AT THE TOP OF 312 BRIDGE TO TAKE THIS PICTURE.

SO, THIS IS FROM GOOGLE OR MAPS, BUT I FRAME SHOTTED IT AND IT'S REALLY AT THE TOP OF THE 312-BRIDGE LOOKING DOWN.

AND WHAT YOU DO IS SEE THE MASSING OF THE BUILDINGS ALONG THE SAN SEBASTIAN RIVER, INCLUDING CAT'S PAW.

YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT EXIST THERE, AND THEY KIND OF PEEK OUT FROM THE VEGETATION.

ALL THAT VEGETATION WILL REMAIN.

AND IN FACT, WE'RE PUTTING A LOT MORE BACK.

THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING, LARGE BOAT BARN, IF WE CALL IT DRY STACK STORAGE ADDED TO THE NORTH OF THAT BUILDING.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE LONG SIDE OF THAT.

I'M SORRY. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE SHORT SIDE OF THAT, NOT THE LONG SIDE OF THAT FROM 3 TO 12.

THIS IS AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THIS WAS ON THE YELLOW ON THE LEFT.

THE CHART WAS PROVIDED BY STAFF LAST YEAR.

AND WHAT IT DOES IS SHOW THE VALUATION REVENUE, NET REVENUE TO THE CITY AS AN ESTIMATE.

AND THEN WHAT I DID WAS TAKE THAT AS A PRO RATA SHARE BASED ON THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY 0.9 ACRES WITH A SMALL IMPROVEMENT.

WE'RE DOING TEN ACRES NOW.

AND WHAT IT IS IS A NET INCREASE OF OVER $250,000 A YEAR IN AD VALOREM TO THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE ALONE.

AND THAT IS ONLY FOR OUR CORE BUSINESS OF THE BOAT EXPANSION.

SO EVERYTHING ELSE, AS I CALL IT, IS GRAVY, WHERE THE 85,000FT² OF ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY, AND THEN OTHER TAX REVENUES FOR TANGENT BUSINESSES AND LLCS AND THINGS LIKE THAT OPEN UP FOR MARINE REPAIR AND THE LIKE.

SO A MINIMUM OF 250,000 PER YEAR.

OUR ACCOUNTANTS AND BOOKKEEPERS HAVE ACTUALLY ESTIMATED IT NORTH OF 300,000.

BUT IT IS A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE, AND IT IS, IS BACKED BY THE YELLOW THERE THAT SHOWS 53,923 CITY PORTION OF TAXES THAT IS ACTUALLY NORTH OF 100,000, BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR 2023 TAX BILL GOING TO THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE NOW, WHICH IS OVER 100,000.

SO CONSERVATIVELY WE'VE UNDER UNDERSHOT THIS.

BUT IT IS A GREAT NET BENEFIT TO THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THE ANNEXED LAND HAS AN ESTIMATED OF 50 ABANDONED BOATS, CARS, RVS, TRACTORS.

YOU SAW THE PICTURES? 35,000 EXISTING SQUARE FEET OF DILAPIDATED STRUCTURES, MOBILE HOMES, LIMESTONE ROADS DIFFERENT SHELTER HALVES.

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TEN EXISTING SEPTIC TANKS AND WATER WELLS ON THE PROPERTY.

THE PUD WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TO GROW CAT'S PAW MARINA LIMITS THE USES AND STANDARDS COMPARED TO WHAT'S EXISTING IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

OKAY. SAINT JOHNS COUNTY ALLOWS A WIDE RANGE OF USES IN THE, IN THE IN THEIR MIXED USE AND THEIR POTENTIAL USES AND INCREASE THE ISR.

FOR INSTANCE, SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY HAS A 75% ISR.

WE'RE PROFFERING IT TO 49%.

THE HEIGHT YOU COULD GO UP TO 60FT IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, AND WE'RE AT 50FT IN OUR PUD.

THIS WHAT THIS REALLY DOES IS THIS ANNEXATION AND COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.

PUD ALLOWS THE ORDERLY GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF CAT'S PAW MARINA, HIGHLIGHTED BY THE ADDITION OF LAND THAT CREATES A UNIFIED MASTER PLAN AND CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDINGS AND CUSTOMARY WATERFRONT USE AT THIS LOCATION.

IT'S A BALANCE OF PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS WITH PRESERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES, REDEVELOPMENT OF THE BLIGHTED AREAS AS WE'VE SHOWN SAFE PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICLE CIRCULATION INTERCONNECTIVITY TO ADJACENT LANDS, WHICH IS KEY, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF WAYFINDING ON THE PROPERTY WITH SIDEWALKS AND PARKING LOTS AND SO FORTH.

ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT, WHICH WE ARE PRESERVING.

PRESERVATION OF WETLANDS AND SURPLUS TREES.

AND THEN ENHANCEMENT OF SCENIC VISTAS.

THE EXPANSION WILL HELP MEET BOATER DEMAND AND PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT AND INCREASES ECONOMIC PRODUCTIVITY AT AN APPROPRIATE WATER DEPENDENT LOCATION.

I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING ME TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS, BUT PZB GAVE US A LITTLE LIST BETWEEN OUR TWO PZB MEETINGS RECENTLY.

ONE WE GOT TABLED AND WE CAME BACK WITH A TASK LIST, AND IT WAS TO SHOW THE DETAILS OF THE TREE PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION PLANS.

AND WE'VE SHOWN THAT NOW WE HAVE A 358.5 CREDIT, THE LOT COVERAGE OF 38%.

AND THAT'S JUST THE BUILDINGS OVER THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN A TOTAL IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RATIO OF UNDER 50.

THE BUILDING HEIGHTS ARE CAPPED TO 50 FOOT MAX, AND THE QUESTION WAS POSED TO ME, BRAD DOES THAT, IS THAT FROM THE GRADE? IS THAT FROM THE WHAT'S THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION? WELL, THE IMPORTANT THING TO CONSIDER HERE IS THE BOAT BARN THAT IS EXISTING OUT THERE TODAY.

WE CAN'T STEP UP ANOTHER BOAT BARN HIGHER THAN THAT ONE, BECAUSE WE HAVE $500,000 FORKLIFTS THAT ARE DRIVING ACROSS THAT, AND BOATS NEED TO REMAIN LEVEL.

SO THAT IS THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION AT 8.13 ABOVE MEAN HIGH WATER.

AND THEN IT'LL GO 50FT ABOVE THAT AND IT MATCHES THE EXISTING BOAT BARN.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING MORE.

AND SO THAT'S ALL PUT IN THE PUD.

THERE ARE SCENIC VISTAS ENHANCED WITH PLANNED WATERSIDE PARK AND VIEWING SPACE.

THAT'S THE KIND OF LITTLE AMPHITHEATER.

IT'S NOT AN AMPHITHEATER, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I CALL IT.

VISUAL CORRIDOR FROM THE ENTRY ROAD, DEDICATED BOARDWALK AND INDIGENOUS TREES ALONG THE WATER'S EDGE, INCLUDING CYPRESS TREES DEFINED BUILDINGS, PARKING, ACCESS PROVIDED, AND ENHANCED SIDEWALKS AND PATHS INTERNALLY CONNECTED TO SURROUNDINGS AND THEN ANTICIPATED DATE OF COMPLETION NO LATER THAN DECEMBER 31ST OF 2030.

SO WE HAVE ABOUT 250,000FT², MOST OF THAT'S IN THE BOAT BARNS, 85,000 OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USE IS PLANNED.

AND SO IT'S ALREADY 2024.

WE NEED TO DO PERMITTING.

ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, BUILDING PLAN REVIEW.

IF WE'RE THINKING THE SPRING, IF WE GET THIS APPROVED, THE SPRING OF EARLY SPRING OF 2025 FOR SOME INITIAL APPROVALS FROM ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURE, YOU KNOW, THAT TAKES US THAT REALLY IS A FIVE-YEAR WINDOW OF DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S A LOT FOR 250,000FT² OUT THERE.

SO THE PZB ASKS US TO SPECIFICALLY PUT A DATE IN THERE.

SO WE DID THAT. AND WITH THAT, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I DO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY COOL, AND I'D LIKE TO SHOW AND IT IS A, A FLY AROUND THAT OUR ARCHITECT PROVIDED FOR US.

AND WHAT I'LL DO IS JUST SHOW THAT REAL QUICK.

HERE WE GO. LET'S SEE THERE.

AND I CAN DO THIS ONE MORE TIME.

BUT THIS IS A VISUAL.

EVERYTHING I WAS IN THE PRESENTATION WERE SCREENSHOTS OF THIS THIS VISUAL HERE.

SO, WHAT IT DOES IS SHOW THE KIND OF TOTAL CONTEXT OF THE LANDSCAPING, THE WATER'S EDGE, THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE FORMING AND THE MASSING OF THE BUILDINGS ITSELF, IN ADDITION TO ALL THE TREES THAT WE'RE PUTTING BACK.

SO, I'LL DO THAT ONE MORE TIME SINCE IT STARTED A LITTLE LATE, AND THEN I'LL GO INTO QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

AND AGAIN, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SHOW YOU THIS.

SO, WE THINK IT'S A GREAT WORKING, WATER DEPENDENT PROJECT OUT THERE THAT REALLY CLEANS UP THE SITE.

PROVIDES A LOT OF ENHANCEMENTS AS FAR AS THE WORKABILITY AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN A LOT OF TREES THAT WILL BE REPLANTED.

SO, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS, AND WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE WANT TO BE IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, AS YOU KNOW.

WHY ARE WE ANNEXING? WELL, IT'S HARD TO PUT A BUILDING ACROSS JURISDICTIONAL LINES BECAUSE THEN WHO GOVERNS THE FIRE? WHO GOVERNS THIS? THAT AND THE OTHER.

BUT CAT'S PAW HAS BEEN IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, AND WE FEEL LIKE THE GROWTH OF THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT IN TUNE TO OUR WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

SO, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. WE'LL START WITH I HAVE A QUICK ONE AT THE VERY IT WAS CONVENIENT THAT YOU HAD THE VIDEO THERE.

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IS THAT WATER NAVIGABLE? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION BY KAYAK AND PADDLE BOARD.

SURE. YES. WELL, BECAUSE YOU HAD PICTURES OF BOATS HEADING THAT WAY.

AND I SAID, WAIT A MINUTE.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND THAT IS NOT THAT'S JUST MORE OF AN ARCHITECTURAL EMBELLISHMENT.

BUT THAT IS THAT IS NOT NAVIGABLE.

THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DREDGED, IF YOU WILL GET OUT THERE.

AND LET ME JUST POINT TO EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

BECAUSE MY CONCERN WAS THAT FIVE YEARS, SIX YEARS FROM NOW, YOU WILL COME BACK ASKING FOR DOCS NEW.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S REALLY MARSH IN THERE AND THAT IT IS.

YEAH. THAT IS THAT IS MARSH.

AND ACTUALLY, LET ME GET TO A BETTER AREA IF YOU'LL JUST LET ME OBLIGE HERE.

THAT ANY OF THAT DREDGING IS NOT WITHIN OUR WORK PROGRAM.

SO, THIS IS KIND OF A TOP DOWN VIEW OF THAT PERSPECTIVE.

SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS AREA IN HERE AND THAT IS THAT IS NOT IN ANY OF OUR PLANS.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY MORE DOCKAGE SPACE.

THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR OUT HERE IS WE HAVE A SUBMERGED LAND AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED IT WITH DEP.

IT'S INTERESTING WITH THE LAND GRANT RIGHTS HERE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, IT COMES THROUGH YOU GUYS.

SO, ALL OF THESE ARE EXISTING DOCKS.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TAKING NEW, SOME NEW SPACE OUT THERE AND PUTTING IT FOR THE, THE, THE BOATS BECAUSE WE FEEL IT'S BETTER IN CIRCULATION FOR THE BOATS TO ASSIST IN THIS, BUT WE HAVE NO PLANS FOR THIS AREA IN RED FOR ANY DOCKET SPACE OVER THERE.

THERE IS ONE BOAT RAMP THAT'S GOING TO STAY IN EXISTENCE, AND IT'S RIGHT HERE.

AND WE FEEL THAT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR KAYAKS AND CANOES AND PADDLE BOARDS TO ENTER.

AND THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY PLACE THAT WOULD BE NAVIGABLE AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED.

I CAN'T TELL WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING AROUND THERE, BUT WE WANT THAT TO REMAIN BECAUSE THAT'S A REAL GOOD SOFT KIND OF PASSIVE AREA FOR THE PUBLIC TO, TO ACCESS FOR KAYAKS, BOATS, CANOES AND THE LIKE.

AND THAT'S REALLY MORE INDICATIVE OF THAT SPACE RIGHT NOW, THAT WATERWAY, IF YOU WILL.

OKAY. THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION.

I HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE A QUESTION.

CAN I GO NEXT? COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT PHOTOGRAPH THAT YOU JUST SHOWED? OH, YEAH. IT SHOULD BE UP.

THERE YOU GO. YEAH.

OR YOU SHOWED THE RED, I GUESS THAT WENT AWAY, BUT YEAH, I'LL DRAW IT AGAIN.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

RIGHT TO THE RIGHT OF THAT.

RIGHT. WHERE YOU HAVE GREENERY ALONG THE EDGE.

THIS AREA. OH, RIGHT IN HERE? YES. THAT WHOLE AREA.

YES. IS THAT A SEAWALL? IS IT RIPRAP? IS IT A LIVING SHORELINE? WHAT IS IT? RIGHT NOW, IT'S RIPRAP, AND WE'RE IT'S PLANNED TO REMAIN RIPRAP, EXCEPT FOR THE VEGETATION AND TREES THAT WE'LL PUT THERE, WHICH ARE CYPRESS TREES AND SOME RED CEDARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO KIND OF BOLSTER THAT NATURALLY.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR A BULKHEAD THERE, DO WE? MY CIVIL ENGINEER IS KNOTTING HIS HEAD NO.

SO, WE DON'T DO WE'RE NOT DOING ANY HARD INFRASTRUCTURE AS FAR AS BULKHEADS RIGHT THERE, IT IS CURRENTLY RIPRAP.

THAT WILL REMAIN. ALL RIGHT, WELL YOU ANSWERED ONE OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS AND THAT WAS THAT THE NEW BOAT BARN WILL NOT EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING BOAT BARN, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

AND LOOKING AT THE MAP, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY OTHER PROPERTY FOR YOU TO ANNEX.

YOU'VE BEEN COMING BITING AWAY AT THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW.

SO, IS THERE ANY OTHER PROPERTY THAT YOU COULD ANNEX? NO. AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT EMBARRASSED TO SAY IT'S BEEN A PLETHORA OF RICHES FOR US.

AND WE'RE BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO BE IN THIS POSITION.

AS YOU KNOW, WE STARTED WITH THIS LITTLE TINY PIECE RIGHT HERE LAST YEAR TO ANNEX IT IN.

AND THEN FROM THERE, THE WORD GOT OUT THAT WE WERE EXPANDING AND WE HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE A PLAY FOR WHAT'S IN YELLOW THERE.

AND THEN ALSO THE ORANGE, AS WE CALL THIS, THE GENEVA, THE FREEDOM AND THE PELLISSIER PARCELS COLLECTIVELY.

SO, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO THEN DO A BETTER UNIFIED MASTER PLAN THAT GAVE US WHAT I CALL, IN THE PLANNING JARGON, MORE A LITTLE BIT MORE ELBOW ROOM ON THE CANVAS.

SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO SQUEEZE EVERYTHING IN.

WE CAN GET MORE CIRCULATION BETTER.

SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAD PREVIOUSLY, EVEN FROM YOU ON THE COMMISSION, IS OKAY, IF YOU PARK IN ONE SPACE AREA, HOW DO YOU GET AROUND TO THE OTHER RESTAURANT, THE DOCKET SPACE.

AND NOW IT'S ALL DEFINED A LOT BETTER WITH SIDEWALKS, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, WAYFINDING WHICH ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND SO THERE IS NO MORE LAND FOR US TO BUY AROUND THERE.

SO, THE COUNTY HAS 38 ACRES JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THERE.

WE ARE PLEASANTLY HAPPY AND SURPRISED AND AT OUR UP TO OUR EYEBALLS IN PLANNING AND MASTER PLANNING AND PERMITTING WITH THE CURRENT 19.92 ACRES.

SO THAT'S IT.

BUT THE REASON WHY WE TABLED THE FIRST PZB MEETING AND HAD OUR SECOND ONE IS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE GENESIS OF THE PELLISSIER PARCEL ACQUISITION.

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SO, IT'S JUST UNDER CONTRACT.

WELL THANK YOU. AND THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

I'LL HOLD MINE UNTIL YOU'RE FINISHED.

YEAH. OKAY. SO, I LIKE THE CONCEPT.

YOU'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH TO US QUITE A FEW TIMES, AND I KNOW YOU'VE HAD ITERATIONS THAT WENT THROUGH PZB.

AND WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH, AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE PACKET AND A BUNCH OF TIMES, SO I MAY STILL NOT BE FINDING THESE THINGS, BUT WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH IS THE FACT THAT THE STAFF AND THE.

I THINK IT WAS AFTER THE PZB MEETING ON MARCH 5TH OR RIGHT BEFORE THAT, HAD A VERY LONG STAFF REPORT WITH THEIR ASSESSMENT.

AND ALSO THE PZB AT THE MARCH MEETING HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, AND I DON'T SEE I MAYBE I JUST NEED IT DRAWN OUT FOR ME SPECIFICALLY, BUT FOR ME, I NEED TO SEE.

THIS IS THE THING WE WANT YOU TO ADDRESS, AND THIS IS YOUR RESPONSE TO IT.

AND I NEED TO SEE THAT DIRECT CONNECTION.

SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT I'M HAVING, WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH, CONFUSION WISE ON PAGE.

I THINK IT'S 21 OF Y'ALL'S PACKETS, THE PRINTED PACKET THERE'S A PART OF THE STAFF REPORT THAT HAS A NUMBER OF IT HAS NUMBER ONE THROUGH NINE.

IS IT 21.

21 OF THE PUD TEXT OR NO.

OF THE OF THE I'M NOT SURE OF THE PZB WHICH PART OF IT.

THE ANNEXATION THE IT'S LAND USE.

I'M TRYING TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THIS.

IT'S AN ILLUSTRATION OF.

AMY, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS.

IT'S GOT SQUARE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN YELLOW, AND IT'S.

AND IT'S GOT TREES.

OKAY. AND WHAT IT SAYS IS IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT SAYS FIGURE THREE.

SCREENSHOT OF THE OVERALL PRESENTATION PLAN INCLUDED IN THE PUD TEXT.

SPECIFIC TREES ARE LISTED BELOW WHICH CORRESPOND TO THE NUMBERS.

AND SO YOU HAVE A CHART OF YOUR TREES.

AND WHAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN RECONCILED IS THE FACT THAT STAFF FOUND THAT IN NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TREE NUMBER 63 WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ARBORIST REPORT. AND THEN THERE'S EIGHT MORE OF THOSE, TREE NUMBER 15 AND 16, BOTH DOCUMENTED AS APPEARS HEALTHY.

AND JUST THE STAFF CALLED THESE THINGS OUT, AND I DON'T SEE A DIRECT RESPONSE TO THESE THINGS.

MAYBE IT CAME TO THE PZB IN JUNE, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME.

OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. YES, MA'AM.

SO, COMMISSIONER ROGER. YES, IT DID COME BEFORE THE PZB IN JUNE, AND WE PRESENTED ALL THOSE DETAILS SPECIFICALLY ON THOSE ITEMS. THE COUPLE OF THOSE TREES THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED BY STAFF SAID THEY WERE NOT IN THE ARBORIST REPORT.

THE REASON WHY SOME OF THOSE ARE NOT IN THE ARBORIST REPORT IS BECAUSE WHAT WE DID WAS THAT WOULD HAVE ONLY FURTHERED THE GAP BETWEEN OR BASICALLY LESSENED THE GAP BETWEEN OUR MITIGATION RATIOS AND WHAT WE'RE PUTTING BACK.

SO WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT IS, AT THAT POINT, WE HAD ALREADY HAD A 300 PLUS A SURPLUS OF TREES THAT WERE PUTTING BACK ON THE PROPERTY.

SO, WE DIDN'T NEED AN ARBORIST TO GO BACK OUT THERE AND TELL US ONE IS DECAYING, ONE IS DYING, ONE IS STRESSED.

YOU CAN PULL IT OUT AND GET LESS ON THE BACK ON THE PROPERTY.

WE JUST LET EVERYTHING THE WAY IT WAS, AS IF IT WERE A FULL TREE.

OKAY, BECAUSE WE ALREADY MET, WE WERE EXCEEDED AND HAD A SURPLUS OF TREE REPLANTING AND MITIGATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT SPECIFICALLY STATED, OKAY, IN THIS APPLICATION, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING I'M SAYING IS THAT.

AND SO THEN THE STAFF ALSO REQUESTED, FOR EXAMPLE THE CALCULATIONS OF, OF THE, OF THE IMPERVIOUS TO PERVIOUS SURFACE RATIO.

I SEE A, THE, THE NUMBER THAT YOU ARRIVED AT, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW IT WAS CALCULATED.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT'S MISSING FOR ME AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

I CAN RESPOND TO THAT. YOU WANT ME TO RESPOND TO THAT NOW? BUT I FEEL LIKE IF IT'S A IF IT'S A PUD, I WANT IT IN THE FINISHED PRODUCT BEFORE I APPROVE IT.

YEAH. SO THE EXPLANATION IS FINE, BUT IF I CAN'T FIND IT IN MY PACKET, THEN IT IT ALMOST DOESN'T EXIST.

SO WE INCLUDED THAT.

SO OUR HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT INCLUDED.

JUST WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

OKAY. ON THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RATIO, THE LOT COVERAGE RATIOS, IT WAS ON THE MARCH SITE PLAN.

IT WASN'T INCLUDED. WE INCLUDED THAT DATA CHART ON THIS SITE PLAN AS A REITERATION AND RESUPPLIED THAT TO STAFF, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PACKET AND WAS APPROVED BY PZB. OKAY, BECAUSE WE ANSWERED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEIR QUESTIONS ON THIS, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE PACKET.

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YEAH OKAY. BUT THAT'S I JUST WANTED TO TO CONFIRM THAT IT'S NOT IN THE PACKET.

RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY.

THAT'S. WELL, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN MISS SKINNER CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT WE SO PZB APPROVED THIS BASED ON THE TASKS THAT THEY GAVE US BETWEEN MARCH AND JUNE 4TH.

YEAH. AND WE CAME BACK AND SHOWED THEM EVERY SINGLE LINE ITEM THAT THEY GAVE US.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE AND PASSED ALL THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE. OKAY.

BUT WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL SHOW YOU THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS ALL THAT THAT ANSWERED ALL THEIR QUESTIONS.

YEP. IT'S IN YOUR SLIDES BUT IT'S NOT IN MY PACKET.

IT SHOULD BE IS IT.

YES, MA'AM, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S THE SITE DATA TABLE THAT IS ACTUALLY ON THE PUD.

YEAH. AND I SEE THAT, BUT I DON'T SEE WHAT HOW IT WAS CALCULATED.

I JUST SEE THE RESULT OF THE CALCULATION.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BRAD WESTER SO THE CALCULATION IS REALLY WE HAD TO PUT THAT BACK INTO CAD TO THEN RUN THE RATIOS OF THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RATIO OF THE PROPERTY AND THE BUILDING COVERAGES. SO, WE ALIGN ON ALL THOSE IN CAD AND DESIGN.

AND IT CAME OUT WITH THE FORMULAS FOR US WHEN WE GOT THAT BACK TO JACOB AND AMY, AND THEN PUT THAT IN OUR REVISED SUBMITTAL SO WE COULD BE HEARD AGAIN BY ON JUNE 4TH AT PZB.

AND WE ULTIMATELY GOT APPROVAL FOR THAT.

SO, IF WE LOOK AT IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET THIS BACK ON THE SCREEN.

SO THIS DATA CHART RIGHT HERE.

YEAH. YEAH, PLEASE.

AND IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO SEE ON MY SCREEN TO EVEN WHEN I DO BLOW IT UP IT'S IN YOUR IT'S IN I KNOW I'VE SEEN IT BUT IT'S RIGHT HERE.

YEAH. SO, WHAT WE DID WAS WE CAME BACK WITH THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RATIO AND THE LOT COVERAGES.

SO THE LOT COVERAGE IS 38%.

THE IMPERVIOUS RATIO SERVICE RATIO IS 49%.

AND THAT'S ALL DONE BY THE ENGINEERING CALCULATIONS AND CAD AND CAD.

OKAY. YES, MA'AM. AND THEN INCLUDING THE DETAILS ON THE TREES AND THE MITIGATION RATIOS, WHAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IN MARCH WAS THE DEPICTING THE CREDITS AND THE DEFICITS AND THE SURPLUSES.

AND SO, WE PRESENTED THAT BACK IN THE PLANS THAT WE RESUBMITTED WITH OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE PLAN, AND THEN ALSO SHOWED THAT IN OUR SLIDESHOW TO REITERATE THAT IN THE SUMMARY. SO, I'M HERE TO.

HERE. OR IS IT IN THE PZB PACKET FROM JUNE 4TH.

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE PZB PACKET.

YEAH. FROM JUNE 4TH BECAUSE THEY APPROVED, I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD HAVE APPROVED.

I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN OUR PACKET.

I'M OKAY. I'M MISSING IT.

THAT IS NOT WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.

YEAH I HAVE THAT.

YEAH. SO, THE THIS YEAH I THINK SHE'S NOT SHE SAYS SHE'S NOT REFERRING TO THIS.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.

AND THEN IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE SLIDE JUST REAL QUICK.

SO LET ME CLEAR THIS.

I KNOW THIS IS CONFUSING AND I'M WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS THAT I, I NEED TO SEE A DIRECT PATH BETWEEN A CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED AND THE ANSWER TO THAT CONCERN.

AND I'M GOING BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH AND I'M HAVING TROUBLE FOLLOWING WHETHER ALL OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY STAFF AND PZB WERE ADDRESSED, THEY WERE ALSO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

AND SO, WE I ACTUALLY CREATED A SLIDE IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE SLIDE.

THANK YOU. THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE WAS OUR HOMEWORK FROM PZB BETWEEN MARCH 5TH AND JUNE 4TH.

AND SO THAT INCLUDED THE FULL TREE PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION PLANS, WHICH WERE ONLY PROVIDED IN THE SLIDE SHOW PREVIOUSLY AND NOT INCLUDED IN, LIKE, THE STAFF REPORTS OR THE DOCUMENTS, THE STAFF SHOWING OUR ARBORIST AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE, WE PROVIDED THAT.

AND THEN I BROKE THE DETAILS DOWN IN THE SLIDESHOW SO WE COULD DRILL IN, DRILL DOWN ON IT ALL.

WHAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE SITE DEVELOPMENT CHART, WHICH IS NOW PART OF THE PUD IS THE LOT COVERAGE RATIO.

THE LOT COVERAGE COVERS JUST BUILDINGS, JUST NOT SURFACE PARKING LOT, BUT JUST PURE BUILDINGS.

AND THEN THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RATIOS AND WHAT IT WAS, THEY WERE ASKING ME HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY? SO, I PROVIDED ALL THAT.

THE OTHER QUESTION WAS BUILDING HEIGHTS.

HOW ARE YOU DOING BUILDING HEIGHTS? IS IT JUST FROM GRADE? IS IT FROM YOUR EXISTING? AND I HAD TO KIND OF SHOW THE CONTEXT OF WHAT THAT REALLY MEANT.

NO, BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO GO PAST THE EXISTING BOAT BARN, AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO USE THAT SAME 8.13 ELEVATION STANDARD ACROSS, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT, WE NEED A FLAT CONCRETE SURFACE TO DRIVE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BOATS ON FORKLIFTS AND RAISE THEM UP 40FT AND GET THEM WHERE THEY'RE GOING.

SO THE OTHER THING WAS SCENIC VIEWS AND VISTAS AND WAYFINDING.

HOW DO YOU GET FROM ONE PARKING LOT IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, BACK DOWN AND AROUND TO MAYBE THE RESTAURANT OR THE BUILDINGS OR THE COUNTY PARK LAND? AND NOW THAT WE SHOWED THAT THROUGH ALL OF OUR INTERCONNECTIONS OF SIDEWALKS, THERE'S A SIDEWALK THAT LINKS EVERY PARKING LOT AND EVERY BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY THAT WHEN YOU SAID IT THE FIRST TIME, WHEN YOU PRESENTED THIS SLIDE AND THEN MORE DEFINED BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY, WHAT WE SHOWED WAS LIKE PHASING, LIKE MAYBE A BUILDING COULD GO HERE. IT'S A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AREA.

AND THEN WHAT WAS PITCHED TO ME AND YOU GUYS HELPED WITH THAT WAS PLAY THAT OUT AS A REAL DESIGN SCENARIO.

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AND WE'VE DONE THAT.

SO PREVIOUSLY IT WAS JUST A BUBBLE.

IT SAID FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AREA.

RIGHT. YEAH I REMEMBER YES MA'AM.

THE PZB MEETING.

THE RECORDING. AND THEN WE HAD TO GO BACK AND RECALCULATE THE NEW MITIGATION RATIO FOR THE TREES THAT WERE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THAT MINI SITE PLAN, IF YOU WILL, IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER. YEAH.

WHICH IS REALLY A HOLDING.

IT'S A KIND OF A HOLDING YIELD FOR A POTENTIAL BUILDING IN THAT AREA.

SO THOSE WERE ALL THINGS.

AND THEN WE HAD A FINISH DATE BETWEEN 2028 AND 2030.

AND THEN WE WORKED WITH PZB.

THEY WANTED THAT BASICALLY.

YES, MA'AM. SO, THESE ARE ALL LINE ITEMS OF THAT.

AND I'M HERE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH THAT THESE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT WE WERE TASKED WITH AND WE CAME BACK WITH.

AND THEY'RE EITHER IN THE DOCUMENTS AS EXHIBITS AND PLANS AND, OR SUMMARIZED IN OUR IN OUR PRESENTATION HERE.

AND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS FOR IS NOT CONFUSING.

I TOTALLY GET IT BECAUSE IT'S THERE'S A THOUSAND PAGES TO LOOK AT.

SO, IT'S OKAY.

SO, YOUR PRESENTATION IS NOT IN MY PACKET OKAY.

RIGHT. SO THAT IS YEAH I DON'T KNOW IF THIS BECOMES PART OF THE PERMANENT RECORD FOR THE PUD APPLICATION OR NOT.

WELL, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE EITHER AS AN EXHIBIT TO THE ACTUAL PUD OR IN THE TEXT OF THE PUD, THEN THAT SHOULD BE YOUR INSTRUCTION TO THE APPLICANT IF IT'S JUST BACKGROUND INFORMATION, CERTAINLY HE'S TESTIFYING THAT THAT IS WHAT THE MATH WORKS OUT TO BE.

AND THOSE ARE HOW THE CALCULATIONS WERE DONE.

IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU TO HAVE IN THE TEXT OR IN THE EXHIBITS, THEN THAT CERTAINLY IS UP TO YOU IF YOU'RE WILLING TO SIMPLY ACCEPT IT.

ON HIS TESTIMONY AS BACKGROUND, I'LL CALL IT.

SO YOUR CHOICE IF THERE'S SOME OF THESE DETAILS YOU WANT IN THE ACTUAL TEXT, LET HIM KNOW.

SO ON SECOND READING, HE CAN INCLUDE THEM.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE.

OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK BACK ON MADEIRA AND THE MANY DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF MADEIRA AND HOW WE HAVE HAD A HARD, WE AS COMMISSIONERS NOW HAD A HARD TRACK TIME TRACKING WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

I WANT THIS TO BE SOMETHING THAT A FUTURE COMMISSION, IF IT COMES BACK UP FOR ANY REASON, WILL BE ABLE TO SEE HERE.

IT ALL IS ALL, ALL AT ONCE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DIG AROUND AND LOOK FOR IT.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT WHAT IS IT EXACTLY THAT YOU WANT THAT PRESENTATION EITHER AS AN ADDENDUM.

YEAH, THIS THE ITEMS THAT WERE CHECKED OFF, ALL OF THIS WHOLE PRESENTATION THAT HE'S PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT AS AN ADDENDUM OR AS PART OF THE TEXT OF THE PUD. OKAY.

YOU DECIDE. OKAY, OKAY, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE FINE WITH IT.

EITHER WAY, I GET IT.

YEAH. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW ALL OF IN THE PUD TEXT, IT DOES SPECIFICALLY REFERENCE LIKE EXHIBIT A THROUGH BCD, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO FOLLOW I KNOW. YEAH, SOME FOLKS LIKE IT TO DO THAT.

AND THEY CAN JUST FLIP TO THAT REFERENCE BECAUSE THEN THEY'RE BOUND TOGETHER AND THEY CAN SEE, OH, THERE'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, THERE'S THE MITIGATION, HERE'S THE SITE PLAN.

SO ALL THAT IS TIED TOGETHER.

BUT I GET IT. YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE BLACK AND WHITE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE TWO.

AND I CAN GET THERE. OKAY.

AND ONE OTHER LAST THING.

AND THIS IS SMALL OKAY.

WHEN YOU HAVE GRAPHICS THAT ARE TITLED PRESENTATION PLAN.

YEAH. THAT MEANS NOTHING TO ME OKAY.

SO PLEASE TITLE THEM LIKE THIS IS THE TREE MITIGATION PLAN.

I WILL DO THAT. SOMETHING THAT IS DESCRIPTIVE.

UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. YEAH.

AND JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THAT PUD PLAN IS KIND OF AT A WE DON'T REALLY ENGINEER AND BUILD CONSTRUCTION PLANS OFF OF THAT.

SO THAT IS A CONCEPT TO SHOW WHAT THE YIELD AND SQUARE FOOTAGE AND DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ARE GOING TO BE.

AND THEN CERTAINLY THE TREE IMPACTS ARE LEGIT BECAUSE WE SAY THAT BUILDING AND PARKING LOT IS GOING TO GO THERE, THAT TREE IS GOING TO BE REMOVED AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT FOUR MORE OVER HERE.

THAT BUT THE PUD IS STILL A CONCEPT PLAN.

SO WHAT WE DO IS WE BASE IT ON AND WHEN WE COME IN FOR ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS, THERE MIGHT BE A SMALL ITERATION CHANGE OF THE PARKING LOT OR AN ACCESS POINT TO THAT PARKING LOT OR THE BUILDING ITSELF, BUT IT CAN'T EVER TRIP THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WAS APPROVED OR THE TREE MITIGATION THAT WAS APPROVED.

AND WHAT WE'VE ALREADY TOLD STAFF IS WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO COME UP WITH SOME BETTERMENTS OF SAVING SOME TREES ON OUR ENGINEERING PLANS.

AND SO WE WANTED TO DO IS WHEN WE COME IN AFTER THIS FULL PACKAGE APPROVAL IS IF WE COME IN AND WE CAN SAVE SOME TREES.

WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT WITH THE FLEXIBILITY OF JUST MOVING A BUILDING HERE, A PARKING LOT THERE, AND FOR THE SAKE OF SAVING A 54 INCH LIVE OAK.

GREAT. THAT CAN JUST ADD TO THAT.

YES, MA'AM. IF THAT'S THE INTENT, THEN MY STRONG SUGGESTION IS YOU MAKE THAT EXPLICIT IN THE TEXT.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS WE DON'T HAVE SORT OF A MINOR MOD OR DE MINIMIS MOD HERE AT THE CITY.

ANY CHANGE TO THE PUD IS A CHANGE TO THE PUD, MEANING AN AMENDMENT TO THE PUD.

SO, IF YOUR CONCEPT, YOUR IDEA IS THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CHANGES TO THE EXHIBITS THAT ARE MADE PART OF THAT PUD YOU MAY

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SO THERE'S NO DISPUTE DOWN THE ROAD THAT YOU IN YOUR MIND, YOU THOUGHT THESE THINGS COULD CHANGE WITHOUT A HEARING? UNDERSTOOD? YEP. I CAN DO THAT.

AND THE FORM AND LOOK OF IT WILL REMAIN THE SAME.

BUT WHEN YOU DRILL DOWN TO THE NITPICKY STUFF, IF A BIKE RACK IS MOVED OR A CURB CUT IS CHANGED, WE DON'T WANT TO WASTE ALL OF OUR TIME BY HAVING TO COME BACK IN BEFORE YOU, ESPECIALLY FOR SAVING A TREE OR THREE.

SO, I'LL PUT THAT ISABELLE I'LL PUT THAT AND STAFF AND I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE AFTER, COMMISSIONER BLONDER AND I HAVE IT FOR YOU.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.

YEP. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHY SHOULD IT GO TO SECOND READING IF WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM AT FIRST READING? THAT'S UP TO YOU. THAT'S YOUR DISCRETION.

SAYING THAT. THE APPLICANT HAS THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO MAKE THE CHANGES.

THAT'S RIGHT. FIRST AND SECOND READING.

AND THAT HAS SATISFIED COMMISSIONER BLONDER.

SO THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL.

YEAH. THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL.

AND I'LL BE I'LL BE SPEEDIER.

I WON'T DRAG THIS PRESENTATION OUT NEXT TIME.

I'LL JUST CUT RIGHT TO THE CHASE.

SO I KNOW I HEAR YOU OKAY.

SO SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? LOTS OF CHANGES CAN HAPPEN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT SUBSTANTIVE.

AND THAT IS A REALLY A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

CITY ATTORNEY. ARE THESE ADDITIONS OR CHANGES? WOULD THEY BE SUBSTANTIVE ENOUGH TO HAVE CAUSE US TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO FIRST READING? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

I THINK IT'S JUST CLEANING UP THE TEXT TO REFLECT WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED UNDER OATH TODAY.

AND I BELIEVE WAS THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED AT PZB.

ESSENTIALLY, YES, ROUGHLY.

WE'VE GOT SOME MORE STUFF TO ADD IN THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO VET IT ONE MORE TIME.

AND IT'S FINE WITH ME BECAUSE WE CAN BE QUICK AT THE NEXT ONE.

BUT AND I WILL CERTAINLY CALL YOU AS WELL TO GO THROUGH WHAT I'M GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU NEXT TIME.

BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY BE VERY QUICK AT THE NEXT HEARING, AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT WE PUT THIS UNDER THE EIGHT RUBRIC, BUT I BELIEVE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER NINE.

BUT MISS SKINNER WILL CORRECT ME, I'M SURE, AND BOP ME UPSIDE THE HEAD.

BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ANY NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TODAY.

YOU CAN HAVE ONE.

IT DOESN'T VIOLATE ANYTHING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

I'M NOT SURE WHY WE DO NOT BECAUSE THIS IS A FIRST READING.

YEAH, WE GENERALLY FOR A PUD ANNEXATION.

AND I NOTICED THAT THIS MORNING ON THE CITY COMMISSION AGENDA.

IT IS IT SAYS IT'S NOT REQUIRED AND IT IS NOT REQUIRED.

THANK YOU. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE JUST BEEN ADMINISTRATIVELY MISPLACED.

I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY INTENTIONALITY TO IT.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING US BECAUSE THAT DOES ADD TO THE TIME.

BUT SO I HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF AND THEN I HAVE.

SO ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE CHANGES THAT WERE REQUESTED AND MADE? YES, I AM.

ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE APPLICANT MAKING THE CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING? YES, I AM. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. AND YOU WILL BE ON TOP OF THAT.

YES. OKAY. SO, MY OTHER QUESTION IS OF THE APPLICANT AND AROUND THE FIRST, THE FIRST CD, WE HAD CONDITIONS ON THE RESTAURANT AND OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC, OPERATIONAL HOURS.

ARE THEY STILL IN IN THE TEXT? YES, MA'AM. THEY ARE STILL IN THE TEXT? YES. OKAY. EXCELLENT. NOTHING'S CHANGED.

AND ON YOUR USES DID Y'ALL ADD CLUBHOUSE AND ACCESSORY USES RELATED TO MARINE OPERATIONS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN THERE THE WHOLE TIME? IT'S BEEN IN THERE THE WHOLE TIME.

THE CLUBHOUSE. CLUBHOUSE? YEAH. HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU NEED A CLUBHOUSE FOR? OKAY, SO A CLUBHOUSE IS MORE OF LIKE A GATHERING SPOT WITH SOME AMENITIES FOR FOLKS THAT COME THERE AND HAVE MAYBE A TRANSIENT OVERNIGHT STAY, LET'S SAY, TO SOMEBODY WHO'S ON A 50-FOOT BOAT, A TROLLING BOAT, THERE'S A TERM FOR PEOPLE THAT DRIVE THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY, AND THEY WANT A MORE UP OVERNIGHT.

THERE'S A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN COME AND DO THEIR LAUNDRY.

THEY CAN GET A SHOWER, KEEP STUFF OVERNIGHT AND THEN A PLACE TO CATCH UBER, TO GO IN TOWN TO EAT OR SOMETHING.

SO, THE CLUBHOUSE OFFERED THIS OFFERS THEM A LITTLE BIT OF AMENITY FOR THE OVERALL MARINA ITSELF.

SO, IT'S NOT A NIGHTCLUB, IT'S NOT ANYTHING ELSE.

IT'S MORE OF JUST A KIND OF A MARINA AMENITY CALLED A CLUBHOUSE.

OKAY. I JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I'M AWARE OF CLUBHOUSES THAT ARE UP AT COMANCHE COVE THAT DON'T, THEY'RE LITERALLY LIKE A MARLIN CLUB OR THE SAILFISH CLUB IN PALM BEACH.

THEY'RE JUST REAL CLUBS WHERE THEY HAVE PARTIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND BUT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT HERE? WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ASKING TO CONDITION ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ALLOWED IN THE, FOR INSTANCE, THE MARINE INDUSTRIAL LAND USE AND THE PUD

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OTHER RESTAURANTS COULD GO THERE IF THEY NEED.

THERE'S SOME SHIP STORE, LIKE ADMIN AND RETAIL SPACE.

YOU CAN GO BUY SOME SUNSCREEN AND FISHING HOOKS.

BUT A CLUBHOUSE IS MORE OF A, AN AMENITY FOR THE BOATERS THEMSELVES TO GET OUT OF THE ELEMENTS, TO HAVE KIND OF A PLACE TO KIND OF DO SOME LITTLE LAUNDRY.

IT'S VERY, VERY COMMON AT MARINAS.

VERY, VERY BIG HIGH END MARINAS, TOO.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR CODE DEFINES CLUBHOUSE TO BE.

IT DOESN'T, BUT IT DOES DEFINE SPECIAL EVENT VENUES.

SO SPECIAL EVENT VENUES ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PUD AS AN ALLOWABLE USE, THEN IT'S NOT ALLOWED.

OKAY, SO AND IT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING, SIR, TO KIND OF CLARIFY THAT OKAY.

AGAIN, TO AVOID DISPUTES IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU HAVE A CLEAR VISION OF EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN BY A CLUBHOUSE AND ITS CERTAIN ACTIVITIES AND NOT OTHERS, MAYBE CLEAN THAT LANGUAGE UP IN THE TEXT. I MEAN, THERE CERTAINLY IS AN OPPORTUNITY IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO COME AND RENT SOME SPACE AND HAVE A WEDDING OUT THERE OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY OUR INTENT.

WE JUST DON'T WANT TO LIMIT THE ABILITY OF SOMEBODY TO COME OUT AND PAY, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO PATRONIZE SOMETHING BESIDES THE DRY STACK BOAT STORAGE.

A WEDDING WOULD BE A SPECIAL EVENT VENUE.

SO YOU MAY WANT TO REGROUP WITH PLANNING TO USE THAT.

I WOULD WANT TO SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDE OKAY.

I WOULD WANT SPECIAL EVENTS TO BE EXCLUDED.

YOU KNOW, WE WERE TRYING TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT AND JUST STICK WITH YOUR CORE BUSINESS, WHICH IS PROVIDING THE SERVICES TO YOUR VOTERS.

RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, AND THAT'S WHY I GUESS I'M GLAD I ASKED THE QUESTION.

SO, IF YOU'LL MAYBE TEASE THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT BETTER, OKAY.

IN THE NEXT ITERATION, AND THEN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THE 85,000FT² OF FLEX COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT VISION IS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.

WE COULD. YEAH.

I MEAN, WE'RE ONLY AT 30.

PROBABLY DONE THIS BEFORE, BUT IT JUST.

YES, PLEASE. SO, AND WE'RE ONLY AT 38% LOT COVERAGE FOR THE BUILDING.

SO, WE COULD GO MORE.

SO, 85%, 85,000.

IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE DRY STACK BOAT STORAGE IS REALLY NOT A LOT.

IT'S MORE KIND OF ACCESSORY USES AROUND THE AROUND THE FACILITIES.

AND IT'S THERE'S SOME COMMERCIAL USES.

SO, IT COULD BE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SPACE.

IT COULD BE A MARINE REPAIR TECHNICIAN THAT DOES SOME ENGINE OR BOAT REPAIR.

BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL TO THE MARINA.

IT COULD BE ANOTHER RESTAURANT.

AND CERTAINLY, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD VIABLE OPTION TO HAVE A MORE OF A WORKING WATERFRONT ENCLOSED, NOT LIKE THE ONE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

BUT ANYTHING THAT'S AN ACCESSORY TO THE MARINA WORKING WATERFRONT, BUT IT'S COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL BASED.

AND THE REASON WHY IT SAYS INDUSTRIAL IS BECAUSE MARINAS ARE INDUSTRIAL BY NATURE.

BUT CERTAINLY, MARINE REPAIR TECH DETAILING SHOP, A SHIP STORE.

SO A RETAIL STORE WHERE YOU CAN GO BUY CHIPS AND DRINKS AND THEN ICE AND FISHING HOOKS.

AND IT'S NOT LIMITED TO THAT, BUT IT'S, IT'S A SMALLER STORE THAT'S AN ACCESSORY USE FOR FOLKS TO NOT GET BACK OUT ON THE ROAD.

THEY CAN BUY STUFF RIGHT THERE.

SO THOSE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF COMMERCIAL/INDUSTRIAL USES.

SO IT'S ANYTHING FROM OFFICE TO COMMERCIAL TO INDUSTRIAL AND ANY TANGENT USES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE WORKING WATERFRONT. OKAY.

I DON'T SEE THAT USE LIKE PARTICULARLY WE HAVE A SHIP STORE NOW.

SO, YOU HAVE THE SHINY STORE.

I DON'T SEE THE SHIP STORE IN THERE.

YEAH. IT'S A COMMON TERM FOR A RETAIL STORE AT A MARINA.

IS A SHIP STORE. I SEE SALES, RENTAL AND SERVICE, REPAIR OF MARINE VESSELS, MOTORS, PARKS AND EQUIPMENT. BUT I DON'T SEE A SHIP STORE.

BUT, I MEAN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT, BUT I DON'T SEE IT IN THERE.

THAT WOULD BE KIND OF THE RETAIL SIDE OF THAT.

IT WOULD BE THE RETAIL SIDE OF THE MARINE RELATED RETAIL STORE.

OKAY. THAT'S IT.

SHIP STORE. OKAY.

YOU GOT IT. ALL RIGHT.

EVERYTHING. AND THERE COULD BE A THERE COULD BE A PROFESSIONAL BOAT BROKERAGE, BOAT BROKERAGE, BROKERAGE BUSINESS THAT IS IN THE SECOND FLOOR OF A REALLY NICE SPACE OVERLOOKING THE WATERWAY IN THE MARINA.

OR IT COULD BE A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.

IT COULD BE A LAWYER.

REALLY HIGH-END CLASS A SPACE RIGHT THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE LEASE ABILITY OF THE VISTAS AND EVERYTHING.

BUT EVERYTHING IS CENTERED AROUND THE ABILITY TO PARTAKE, SEE, HAVE VISTAS TO THE WATERFRONT AND THE WORKING WATERFRONT OF THE MARINA.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, IF YOU'LL JUST DO THAT FOR ME ON WE WILL CLUBHOUSE DEFINITIONS AND HONE THAT DOWN.

NEAR THAT DOWN. AND I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE DO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER WE WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO A PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING.

DO WE WANT TO TAKE THEM ONE BY ONE? THE ORDINANCES WE DO NEED TO TAKE THEM ONE BY ONE.

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I'LL SECOND THAT.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024, DASH 24, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY 10.38 ACRES OF PROPERTY NOW LOCATED IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, LYING WEST AND SOUTH OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT REFERRED TO AS THE CAT'S PAW MARINA, NORTH AND EAST OF NICK'S BOATYARD ROAD AND SOUTH AND WEST OF THE SAN SEBASTIAN RIVERINE ENVIRONMENT AS DESCRIBED HEREIN.

REDEFINING THE BOUNDARY LINES OF THE CITY OF SAN AUGUSTINE TO INCLUDE SAID PROPERTY.

AMENDING SECTION 1.04 OF THE CHARTER LAWS OF THE CITY OF SAN AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA.

PROVIDING FOR FILING OF A COPY HEREOF WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND WITH THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY CODE, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR DEBATE? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

ROXANNE HORVATH. YES.

NANCY. SIKES-KLINE.

YES. CYNTHIA GARRIS.

GARRIS. YES.

JIM SPRINGFIELD. YES.

BARBARA BLONDER. YES.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION ON ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 25 TO PASS READ BY TITLE ONLY AND MOVED FORWARD TO SECOND READING. SECOND ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024, DASH 25, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FLUM DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 10.38 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED NORTH AND EAST OF NICK'S BOATYARD ROAD AS A PORTION OF THE GW PER PARCEL.

GRANT, ADJACENT TO THE CAT'S PALM MARINA DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE IS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN AFTER FROM ITS CURRENT DESIGNATION OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY MIXED USE DISTRICT TO A CITY.

DESIGNATION OF MARINE INDUSTRIAL PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

AND I HOPE I DID NOT MISPRONOUNCE THAT LAST NAME.

I THINK YOU SAID IT RIGHT.

ANY DEBATE OR DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

ROXANNE HORVATH. YES.

JIM. SPRINGFIELD. YES.

CYNTHIA. HARRIS. YES.

BARBARA BLONDER. YES.

NANCY. SIKES-KLINE. YES.

OKAY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2024, DASH 26 TO BE READ BY TITLE ONLY. PASSED FORWARD TO SECOND READING.

I'LL SECOND. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024, DASH 26, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA.

REZONING APPROXIMATELY 10.38 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED NORTH AND EAST OF NICK'S BOATYARD ROAD AS A PORTION OF THE GW PER PARCEL GRANT, ADJACENT TO THE CAT'S PAW MARINA DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HERE AND AFTER FROM ITS CURRENT CLASSIFICATION OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

RESIDENTIAL MANUFACTURED MOBILE HOME RMH COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURIST ROUTE AND OPEN RURAL OR TO THE CITY.

CLASSIFICATION OF PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD.

THIS INCLUDES THE AMENDING AND RECONSTITUTING OF THE EXISTING CAT'S PAW MARINA PUD, INCORPORATING THE PROPERTY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR DEBATE? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

ROXANNE HORVATH. YES.

NANCY. SIKES-KLINE. YES.

CYNTHIA GARRIS. YES.

JIM. SPRINGFIELD. YES.

BARBARA BLONDER. YES.

ALL RIGHT. VERY WELL.

WE'LL SEE YOU AT SECOND READING.

OKAY. AND PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT. SO, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON ORDINANCES.

WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT.

[10.A. FY 2023 Annual Comprehensive Financial Report (ACFR). (M. Breidenstein, Assistant City Manager)]

THANK YOU. MEREDITH MS. BREIDENSTEIN, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

TONIGHT, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THE CITY'S ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT, AS WELL AS A LETTER FROM MASTER SMITH AND WISBY, OUR AUDIT FIRM, MR. HUGGETT FOR MASTER SMITH AND WISBY IS HERE TO PRESENT TONIGHT.

AS A REMINDER, THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MET ON MAY 23RD, 2024, AND THEY REVIEWED, ASKED QUESTIONS AND APPROVED THE ACT FOR AND ALSO THE LETTER THAT YOU HAVE THERE WITH YOU.

AND AS ANOTHER REMINDER, THE AUDIT COMMITTEE CONSISTS OF THE MAYOR, TWO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH FINANCIAL, INDUSTRY OR ACCOUNTING PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND, AND A MEMBER OF CITY STAFF.

SO, THIS IS NOW BEING PRESENTED TO YOU BY MR.

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MR. HUGGETT IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.

IN THIS RAINY NIGHT.

YEAH, WELL, NOT QUITE YET, BUT IT WAS GETTING THERE.

ARE WE GETTING THERE? OKAY? YEAH. MY NAME IS GARY HUGGETT.

I'M WITH THE PUBLIC ACCOUNTING FIRM OF MASTERS, SMITH AND WHISBY.

WE'RE LOCATED AT 4651 SALISBURY ROAD, JAX, FLORIDA.

32256. I AM HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE OFFER.

AS WE KINDLY KNOW IT, IT'S KNOWN AS THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT OF THE CITY FOR ITS LAST FISCAL YEAR END, WHICH IS SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023.

CAN I CLOSE THIS LAPTOP, OR DOES IT NEED TO BE REMAIN OPEN? I CAN CLOSE IT. SORRY.

JUST SPACE WISE.

I THINK AS MEREDITH ALLUDED TO, THERE IS A TWO-PAGE DOCUMENT WE NEED TO BRIEFLY GO OVER.

AND THIS WILL BE THE SMALLEST DOCUMENT WE LOOK AT.

IT BASICALLY IS OUR DUTY TO COMMUNICATE TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND THOSE CHARGED WITH GOVERNANCE, OBVIOUSLY YOURSELVES HOW THE AUDIT WENT AND ANY THINGS, ANY PROBLEMS WE HAD OVER THE COURSE OF THE AUDIT.

I'LL JUST TRY TO SUMMARIZE AS BEST I CAN.

IT SAYS MANAGEMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SELECTION AND USE OF ACCOUNTING, PROPER, APPROPRIATE ACCOUNTING POLICIES THAT FOLLOW GAAP AND ARE CONSISTENTLY APPLIED.

WE FIND NO VIOLATIONS OF THAT WITH THE CITY.

THEY'VE ALWAYS FOLLOWED GAAP AND HAVE CONSISTENTLY APPLIED THAT GAAP.

IT TALKS ABOUT CERTAIN FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, DISCLOSURES BEING SENSITIVE TO ESTIMATES.

I THINK THE ONLY THING YOU REALLY HAVE, WHICH IS PERVASIVE TO GOVERNMENTAL UNITS AND ANYBODY THAT HAS DEFINED BENEFIT PLANS OF YOUR NATURE, IS THAT THE ACTUARIAL CALCULATIONS? THEY'RE NOT SET IN STONE, THAT YOU DO THE BEST YOU CAN WITH THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE.

DIFFICULTIES ENCOUNTERED IN PERFORMING THE AUDIT WERE TO INFORM YOU OF ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

WE WE HAD NONE.

STAFF WAS VERY COOPERATIVE, AS ALWAYS.

CORRECTED AND UNCORRECTED MISSTATEMENTS.

ANYTHING WE FELT WERE MATERIAL ENOUGH TO BE ADJUSTED WERE ADJUSTED IN THESE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

DISAGREEMENTS WITH MANAGEMENT.

WE HAD NONE.

THE SECOND PAGE TALKS ABOUT A MANAGEMENT REPRESENTATION LETTER.

WE'VE ALREADY OBTAINED THAT THAT'S BASICALLY A LETTER FROM YOU ON YOUR LETTERHEAD ADDRESSED TO US, MAKING CERTAIN ASSERTIONS OVER THE COURSE OF THINGS WE'VE DONE OVER THE COURSE OF THE AUDITS AND INFORMATION YOU'VE GIVEN US, SUCH AS LETTING US KNOW OF ANY FRAUD MAKING SURE ALL THE BOARD MINUTES WERE AVAILABLE, SO FORTH AND SO ON. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL ADDRESS THEM.

IF NOT, WE'LL GET ON TO THE.

ACFR. AS THE MAYOR SAID, I PRESENTED THIS AT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING.

I PROMISE TO BE BRIEF.

AND I THINK I EXCEEDED EXPANDED THAT WORD MORE THAN I WANTED TO.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO DELVE INTO THE NUMBERS AS MUCH AS I DID THEN.

I THINK I'VE MAYBE HAVE 20 PAGES I'VE HIGHLIGHTED, AND ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AFTER THAT WILL BE, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN. THIS IS 140-PAGE DOCUMENT.

SO, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO GO THROUGH EACH AND EVERY PAGE.

YOU WILL SEE ONE OF THE FIRST PAGES YOU LOOK AT IS YOUR TABLE OF CONTENTS, JUST TO GIVE YOU A REFERENCE OF ALL, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S PRESENTED IN HERE. A LOT OF IT WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR, WE DO NOT COVER IN OUR AUDIT OPINION, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE STATISTICAL SECTION AND ITS MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS.

AND SO FORTH.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE FIRST PAGE IS PAGE 15.

THIS IS FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.

IT'S A CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING.

WHICH IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL YOU CAN ACHIEVE? IT REQUIRES CERTAIN INFORMATION TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS ACFR WE HAVE ACHIEVED THIS, I BELIEVE, SINCE EITHER LATE 1990S OR EARLY 2000, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

SO, WE'VE BEEN CONSISTENT AT LEAST THE LAST 20 YEARS IN GETTING THIS CERTIFICATE.

SO, IT'S A PAT ON THE BACK TO THE CITY AND TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

THE NEXT SECTION I WOULD LIKE TO GUIDE YOU TO.

LET ME SEE HERE IS PAGE 31.

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THAT IS WHAT WE CHARGE FOR.

THAT IS WHY WE DO THE WORK WE DO.

AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY IN MAKING SURE INTERNAL CONTROLS ARE IN PLACE TO AVOID FRAUD.

WHETHER IT'S DUE TO MISSTATEMENT OR FRAUD OR ERROR.

IT SAYS TO PRESENT PREVENT MATERIAL MISSTATEMENT, WHETHER DUE TO FRAUD OR ERROR.

THE SECOND PARAGRAPH IN THAT LETTER IS WHERE WE RENDER OUR OPINION ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

AND I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND OUR OPINION AS UNMODIFIED, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL YOU CAN GET.

AND IT EXPLAINS OVER THE COURSE OF THIS LETTER, WE DEAL WITH MATERIALITY.

WE DON'T DEAL WITH EXACTNESS.

SO, THERE COULD BE ERRORS, THERE COULD BE THINGS HAPPENING WITH INSIDE THE CITY THAT WE HAVE NOT CAUGHT.

WE DO NOT LOOK UNDER EVERY ROCK.

WE FORMED OUR RISK LEVELS AND LOOK AT AREAS WE THINK ARE MORE RISKY THAN OTHERS.

AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY BECAUSE OF COST, THAT'S THE WAY AN AUDIT IS PERFORMED.

SO I THINK SOMETIMES THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT THE AUDIT JUST GIVES A FULL, CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH.

BUT THAT'S NOT THE PURPOSE OF AN AUDIT.

ON PAGE 37 IS MANAGEMENT'S DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS.

I BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION.

WE DON'T GIVE AN OPINION ON THIS.

THIS IS PUT TOGETHER BY THE CITY STAFF, BUT IT IS A GOOD SYNOPSIS.

IF YOU JUST WANTED TO READ SOMETHING AND NOT READ THE REST OF THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, IT GIVES YOU A LOT OF GOOD FINANCIAL DATA IN HERE.

AS FAR AS HOW EACH FUND DID OVERALL, THE CITY DID THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS, INVESTMENT IN FIXED ASSETS, NOTES PAYABLE, STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO, IT'S A GOOD SECTION TO FOCUS ON IF YOU JUST WANT TO GET A TRUNCATED VIEW OF THE CITY'S POSITION ON PAGE.

LET'S SEE.

WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS SECTION AND GO TO PAGE 55.

THIS IS WHERE THE REAL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS START.

THIS IS THE STATEMENT OF NET POSITION OF THE CITY.

THIS IS THE FINANCIALS ARE A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED.

I'LL TRY NOT TO GET TOO MUCH IN THE WEEDS.

YOU REALLY HAVE TWO SETS OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS EMBODIED IN THIS ONE STATEMENT.

THIS IS ON THE FULL ACCRUAL METHOD OF ACCOUNTING WHICH IS GAAP.

THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'LL SEE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND THE PUBLIC SECTOR, THE GOVERNMENTAL SECTOR.

YOU ALSO HAVE THIS MODIFIED ACCRUAL ACCOUNTING, WHICH IS ONLY SUBJECT TO THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS, YOUR PROPRIETARY FUNDS LIKE YOUR STORMWATER DRAINAGE, UTILITY FUNDS, SO FORTH AND SO ON.

THOSE ARE FULL GAAP BASIS.

SO WHATEVER YOU SEE ELSEWHERE IS PULLED FORWARD IN THIS STATEMENT IN THAT POSITION, THE SAME WAY YOU'LL SEE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, HOWEVER, IN THE GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF NUMBERS, ONE ON THIS REPORT AND SOME DIFFERENT NUMBERS ON ANOTHER REPORT.

WE'LL LOOK AT. AND THE DIFFERENCE ONCE AGAIN IS THERE ARE TWO STANDARDS OF ACCOUNTING AND THEY'RE DIFFERENT.

OBVIOUSLY. THAT'S WHY THERE'S TWO OF THEM.

BUT THIS IS AN OVERALL PICTURE OF THE CITY'S FINANCIAL HEALTH ON THIS DATE OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023, WHICH SHOWS YOUR ASSETS AND YOUR LIABILITIES, YOUR DEFERRED OUTFLOWS AND DEFERRED INFLOWS.

AND IT GETS DOWN TO YOUR NET POSITION, WHICH AS AN INDIVIDUAL WILL BE YOUR NET WORTH.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH NUMBER, BUT IT GIVES YOU A REFLECTION OF THE FINANCIAL HEALTH OF THE CITY.

THE NET POSITION IS FURTHER BROKEN DOWN INTO CATEGORIES, AND THE BIGGEST ONE REALLY IS AT THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS UNRESTRICTED.

THAT IS MONEY THAT'S NOT EITHER COMMITTED BY SOMEONE ELSE OR COMMITTED BY THE CITY FOR ANOTHER USE.

THAT IS MONEY THE CITY CAN USE AS IT SEES FIT.

AND THE CITY CAN OBVIOUSLY DESIGNATE MONEY AS IT SEES FIT TO.

IF THEY PASSED IT THROUGH A DESIGNATION THE NEXT PAGE, ONCE AGAIN, IS THE GOVERNMENT WIDE STATEMENT OF ACTIVITIES.

THAT'S LIKE A PNL, A PROFIT AND LOSS STATEMENT.

SO, YOU CAN SEE YOUR SOURCE OF REVENUES AND EXPENSES, AND YOU CAN SEE AT THE VERY BOTTOM, I GUESS THE THIRD LINE FROM THE BOTTOM, IT SAYS CHANGE IN NET POSITION.

THAT GIVES YOU WHETHER YOU HAD INCOME OR LOSS AND THE AND THE OVERALL FUNDS.

AND YOU CAN SEE YOUR GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES AND YOUR BUSINESS TYPE ACTIVITIES CAN BE COMBINED.

EXCUSE ME. ALMOST PRODUCED $20 MILLION IN PROFIT.

THE NEXT PAGE IS THE BALANCE SHEET FOR THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS.

THIS IS WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO EARLIER.

THIS IS DONE ON THE MODIFIED ACCRUAL BASIS OF ACCOUNTING.

SO ALL THESE NUMBERS WILL PULL FORWARD BASICALLY TO THE PRIOR STATEMENT WE JUST LOOKED AT.

WITH THE EXCEPTION ON THE PRIOR STATEMENT.

YOU HAD FIXED ASSETS AND NOTES PAYABLE AND A COUPLE OTHER DIFFERENCES AS FAR AS DEFERRED INFLOWS AND DEFERRED OUTFLOWS.

SO THIS THIS IS THE SECOND TYPE OF STATEMENT I WAS REFERRING TO ON THE VERY NEXT PAGE.

ON PAGE 60 IS A RECONCILIATION.

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SO, THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IS INCLUDED ON ONE OR ISN'T INCLUDED ON ONE THAT'S INCLUDED ON THE OTHER.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I'LL BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO PAGE 68.

THIS IS THE PROPRIETARY FUNDS.

THESE ARE THE FUNDS YOU TREAT LIKE BUSINESSES AND WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PROFIT AND LOSS IS OR SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING IF THE USER CHARGES ARE APPROPRIATE ENOUGH TO COVER THE COST.

SO THE NEXT 4 OR 5 PAGES, MAYBE 6 OR 7 OR DEAL WITH THE PROPRIETARY FUNDS, ONCE AGAIN, THE NUMBERS HERE WILL PULL FORWARD INTO THE OTHER FINANCIAL STATEMENT. EXACTLY.

BECAUSE THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN ACCOUNTING IN THE PROPRIETARY FUNDS.

SO ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR ASSETS LIABILITIES.

THE DIFFERENCE IS GOING TO BE YOUR NET POSITION.

ONCE AGAIN YOU CAN SEE YOUR UNRESTRICTED NET POSITION BY FUND.

ONCE AGAIN, THE TOTAL COLUMN ON THE RIGHT PULLS FORWARD TO THAT PRIOR DOCUMENT WE LOOKED AT.

BUT THIS GIVES YOU A FURTHER BREAKDOWN BY FUND OF HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL SAY ABOUT THIS IS ON PAGE, WHICH I FIND USEFUL.

I'M JUST WEIRD THAT WAY.

BUT ON PAGE 74 THROUGH, I THINK 77 IS YOUR STATEMENT OF CASH FLOWS FOR THE PROPRIETARY FUNDS WHICH WERE REQUIRED TO BE IN HERE. IT GIVES YOU A GOOD SENSE OF WHERE YOUR MONEY CAME FROM AND WHERE IT WENT.

IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, A LOT OF BUSINESS OWNERS MIGHT MAKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY, LET'S JUST SAY $100,000.

YET THEIR CASH ONLY WENT UP $5,000 FOR THE YEAR.

AND THEY SAID THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.

HOW COULD I MAKE $100,000? MY CASH ONLY WENT UP 5000.

THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS YOU COULD HAVE BOUGHT FIXED ASSETS.

SO YOU'RE CHANGING ONE ASSET FOR THE OTHER.

YOU COULD HAVE PAID DOWN NOTES PAYABLE.

YOU COULD BE FLOATING A LOT OF RECEIVABLES THAT YOU HAVEN'T COLLECTED YET AT YEAR END.

SO YOUR RECEIVABLES WENT UP FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

SO THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA WHERE YOUR MONEY CAME FROM AND WENT.

AND IT DOES IT BY CATEGORY.

YOU CAN SEE THE OPERATING ACTIVITIES.

YOU CAN SEE CAPITAL AND RELATED FINANCING ACTIVITIES NONCAPITAL FINANCE TECH FINANCE ACTIVITIES AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.

SO IN CASE YOU HAD THAT QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WE MADE ALL THIS MONEY.

WHERE'S IT AT? THIS THIS WILL GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER, AT LEAST IN THE PROPRIETARY FUNDS.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO A STATEMENT OF CASH FLOWS FOR ON PAGE 78.

IS YOUR STATEMENT OF FIDUCIARY NET POSITION.

ONCE AGAIN, THESE ARE PULL FORWARD NUMBERS FROM EACH THREE PENSION PLANS.

YOU'LL HAVE THOSE NUMBERS LATER IN THIS REPORT TO LOOK AT EACH INDIVIDUAL PENSION PLAN.

THESE ARE SIMPLY PULL THROUGH NUMBERS.

SO YOU CAN SEE OVERALL THE PENSIONS NET POSITION THE PENSIONS NET POSITION FOR THE THREE PLANS AND DOWN HERE IT'S ALMOST, YOU KNOW, $99 MILLION.

AND THE PAGE OVER TO THE RIGHT, PAGE 79 SHOWS BASICALLY THE PNL FOR THE PENSIONS FOR THE YEAR, WHICH WILL SHOW EVERYBODY'S CONTRIBUTIONS, THE INVESTMENT INCOME, THE EXPENSES. AND THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE THE CHANGE IN NET POSITION, WHICH WE HAD A $8,000,347 SURPLUS THIS YEAR.

THE NEXT LARGE PART OF THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR NOTES TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

A LOT OF THIS IS JUST NORMAL IN NATURE THAT IT HASN'T CHANGED FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

IT'S JUST DESCRIPTIVE.

SO, THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THE NUMBERS OR ANYTHING ELSE.

IT'S JUST REQUIRED DISCLOSURES.

I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT.

I THINK LET'S SEE, I THINK PAGE 91 MIGHT BE THE FIRST PAGE I DIRECT YOU TO.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS JUST IN REGARD TO THE PENSIONS.

IT SHOWS WHAT YOU'RE INVESTED IN, THE TYPE OF SECURITIES BY PLAN.

IF YOU ARE CURIOUS LET'S, SEE PAGE, PAGE 94.

AND I'M JUST POINTING THIS OUT.

YOU'LL FIND THIS WITH YOUR NOTES PAYABLES AS WELL.

THIS GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN OF THE CAPITAL ASSETS NUMBERS.

WE REALLY CONDENSE INTO A COUPLE LINE ITEMS ELSEWHERE.

SO, IF IN CASE YOU WANTED TO KNOW WHERE EVERYTHING'S AT AND HOW MUCH DEPRECIATION THERE IS AND WHAT MAKES UP THE NET NUMBER, THIS GIVES YOU A LINE-BY-LINE BREAKDOWN OF THAT INFORMATION.

AND THAT WAS FOR OBVIOUSLY THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS, THE GENERAL FUNDS.

THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE 96, IS FOR YOUR PROPRIETARY FUNDS, SAME TYPE OF INFORMATION.

STARTING ON PAGE 98, IT TALKS ABOUT YOUR LONG-TERM DEBT.

I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME HERE, BUT IT JUST SHOWS YOU WHERE THE MATURITIES NEED TO HAPPEN.

SO, WE'RE REQUIRED TO SHOW THE MATURITIES BY THE FIRST FIVE YEARS AND THEN FIVE YEARS THEREAFTER IN INCREMENTS.

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AND THERE IS A SUMMATION OF ALL THE BONDS OUTSTANDING.

ON A SEPARATE PAGE IN A SEPARATE FOOTNOTE WHICH I THINK IS ON PAGE 102 WHICH SHOWS EACH, EACH LINE ITEM SHOWS THE AGGREGATE OF THE FUNDS OR THE BONDS THAT WE BORROWED IN THEIR CURRENT STATUS, WHAT'S CURRENT AND WHAT'S NONCURRENT? ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS AND I THINK MOST CONCERNING THINGS ARE, IS ON PAGE 111.

ON PAGE 111 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PENSION PLANS.

AND WITH EACH PENSION THEY PROJECT WHAT THEIR ANNUAL RETURN IS GOING TO BE.

AND WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO IS SAY, HEY, OKAY, LET'S IF THE CURRENT RETURN IS THIS, YOU CAN SEE WHAT YOUR LIABILITY IS LIKE FOR THE GRES THE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES FUND.

YOUR LIABILITY IS $12 MILLION IF YOU HIT YOUR PROJECTED RETURN.

WHICH I THINK IS 7.5 OR 7.3 SOMETHING.

7.5. SO, IF YOU MISSED YOUR PROJECTED RETURN AND ONLY HIT 6.5, YOUR LIABILITY OF $12 MILLION IN THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES PENSION NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IS ALMOST $20 MILLION.

COLLECTIVELY, I THINK YOUR 17.8 MILLION BETWEEN THE THREE WOULD BE 31.5 MILLION.

IF YOU DID NOT HIT YOUR TARGETS BY JUST 1%.

AND THEN FOR THE GOOD, IF YOU EXCEEDED YOUR TARGETS, YOU'RE CHANGING FROM 17.8 TO 6.9 MILLION.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE VAST DIFFERENCE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF PREDICTING YOUR INVESTMENT RETURN AS ACCURATELY AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THE CITY IS ON THE HOOK FOR THIS THIS MONEY, NOT THE PENSION PLANS THEMSELVES.

THE CITY IS.

SO, I THINK I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE INVESTMENT RETURNS ARE ACCURATE.

AND I DO DO WORK FOR TWO BOARDS, BOTH THE EMPLOYEES AND THE POLICE.

AND AS YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE BOARDS THEMSELVES AND THEY'RE VERY DILIGENT ABOUT HOW THEY HOW THEY LOOK AT THINGS AND HOW THEY TRY TO BE CONSERVATIVE.

SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING AT ALL THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THEIR PROJECTIONS, BECAUSE I THINK THEY DO AS GOOD AS WORK AS YOU CAN AND AS THEY'RE ATTENTIVE AS THEY CAN BE IN REGARDS TO KEEPING IT LOW BUT KEEPING IT REAL.

LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE I HAVE MARKED HERE.

THE NEXT PAGE.

EXCUSE ME.

I'M GOING TO PASS THAT.

I KNOW YOU WERE INUNDATED WITH NUMBERS IN THE PRIOR PRESENTER, SO I APOLOGIZE.

OKAY. MAKING MY WAY HERE ON PAGE 124, BEGINNING WITH PAGE 124.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT THE PENSIONS.

IT SHOWS WHAT MAKES UP THE PENSION COST ANNUALLY.

AND IT'S DONE BY PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE THE FIRST PLAN WE DEAL WITH ON PAGE 124 IS THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES.

EACH PLAN HAS THE SAME TYPE OF INFORMATION ON IT.

WE ARE NOW AT A TEN-YEAR REPORTING PERIOD.

THAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED.

THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE ACTUALLY HIT TEN YEARS.

WE COULD REPORT ON AS FAR AS HAVING THIS TYPE OF DATA.

SO 2014 WILL DROP OFF NEXT YEAR.

IN 2015 WILL BE THE EARLIEST YEAR YOU SEE WE'LL ADD TO 2024 WOULD BE ADDED, BUT IT GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT MAKES UP YOUR EXPENSE.

AND THEN IT SHOWS YOU WHAT YOUR NET POSITION IS AND THEN WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS, IS YOUR ACTUAL LIABILITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, ON THE PENSION PLANS SO.

AND YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN SEE HOW FUNDED YOU ARE I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW, THREE QUARTERS DOWN THE PAGE OR SOMETHING, OR JUST A LITTLE UNDER HALF THE PAGE UNDER NET PENSION LIABILITY.

THERE'LL BE A PLAN FIDUCIARY NET POSITION AS A PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL LIABILITY.

SO, YOU CAN SEE IT'S AT 82.53%.

FLIPPING THE PAGE YOUR POLICE IS AT 89.33% FUNDED.

FLIPPING YOUR PAGE YOUR FIREFIGHTERS IS 85.32% FUNDED.

SO, YOUR WORST-CASE SCENARIO, IT LOOKS LIKE THE GENERAL FUND'S OVER 80% FUNDED.

I DON'T HAVE ANY DATA TO SAY WHERE THAT IS IN THE GRAND SPECTRUM OF GOVERNMENTS.

I'M SURE IT'S PROBABLY OUT THERE.

I WOULD THINK IT WOULD NOT BE IN THE LOWER PERCENTAGE, I WOULD THINK.

I WOULD HOPE IT WOULD BE IN THE HIGHER, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PROBLEM FOR A LOT OF CITIES THAT WEREN'T PREPARED FOR IT.

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THE CITIZENRY AND THE GOVERNMENT SAW WHAT THE TRUE COST OF PENSIONS WAS AND WERE, AND WHAT THE LIABILITY REGARDING THEM ARE.

SO THAT INFORMATION IS GOOD INFORMATION TO LOOK AT.

IF YOU CARE TO GET IN THE WEEDS ON WHAT MAKES UP PENSION EXPENSE.

THE NEXT PAGE IS STARTING WITH PAGE 133.

ONCE AGAIN IS, AS I ALLUDED TO EARLIER, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW EACH RESPECTIVE PLAN THEIR NET POSITION, WHICH WAS PULLED FORWARD TO A PRIOR STATEMENT WE LOOKED AT. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT EACH PENSION PLAN AND SEE WHAT THEIR NET POSITION IS.

AND THEN ON THE BACK SIDE OF THAT PAGE, YOU CAN SEE HOW THEIR PROFIT AND LOSS WENT, AS I CALL IT, BUT HOW WELL THEY DID AS FAR AS INCREASING OR DECREASING THEIR NET POSITION OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.

THE NEXT PAGE WE'RE GETTING TOWARDS THE END.

SO, STAY WITH ME.

JUST A COUPLE MORE MINUTES HOPEFULLY ON PAGE 137 IS WHAT WE CALL YOUR CFA.

I GUESS A CFA NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE STATE ASSISTANCE THIS YEAR, BUT THIS IS YOUR SCHEDULE OF EXPENDITURES OF FEDERAL AWARDS AND STATE ASSISTANCE.

SO IT TELLS YOU WHERE YOUR GRANT MONEY CAME FROM.

THESE ARE EXPENDITURES ALONE.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE GOT.

IT'S THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE EXPENDED.

THIS WILL BE MUCH HIGHER NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME MONEY COMING IN, I THINK, FROM FEMA THAT WE DID NOT RECOGNIZE THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE UNCERTAINTY OF IT.

BUT NEXT YEAR IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY BIG NUMBER, I THINK, NORTH OF 8 MILLION.

SO, IT'LL BE IT'LL BE CHANGED NEXT YEAR.

PAGE 139 IS THE START OF YOUR STATISTICAL SECTION.

ONCE AGAIN, IT'S REQUIRED FOR THE GENERAL, THE GFOA CERTIFICATE OF EXCELLENCE AND FINANCIAL REPORTING.

AND IT HAS A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT INFORMATION IN HERE.

SOME OF IT'S TREND INFORMATION SHOWING TEN YEAR'S WORTH OF TRENDS.

SOME OF IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THINGS.

YOU KNOW, POLICE CALLS OR WATERS A GALLON, YOU KNOW, SERVED OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO, WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.

WE LOOK AT IT JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO INCONSISTENCIES BETWEEN THE NUMBERS HERE AND THE NUMBERS THAT PULL FORWARD INTO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE DON'T WE DON'T LOOK A LOT AT THIS JUST TO SEE IT'S REASONABLE.

AND THE CARRY FORWARDS THAT WE SHOWED IN THE PRIOR YEAR, THE SAME CARRY FORWARDS WE'RE SEEING DURING THIS YEAR AND IN THE LAST PART OF THIS ACFR IS GOING TO BE OUR REPORTS OTHER THAN OUR INDEPENDENT AUDITORS REPORT, I THINK THERE'S 3 OR 4.

THIS FIRST ONE ON PAGE 179 BECAUSE YOU ARE A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS REPORT.

IT'S REPORTED ON INTERNAL CONTROL OVER FINANCIAL REPORTING ON COMPLIANCE AND OTHER MATTERS BASED ON AN AUDIT PERFORMED IN ACCORDANCE WITH GOVERNMENTAL AUDITING STANDARDS.

WE LOOK FOR DEFICIENCIES IN INTERNAL CONTROL.

AND IF THERE MATERIAL, IT TALKS ABOUT A SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCY IN INTERNAL CONTROL AND HOW OUR POST A REPORT ON THAT.

WE HAD NO FINDINGS.

SO, THERE'S NOTHING TO REPORT.

THERE'S THIS IS JUST A STANDARD LETTER.

WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY FINDINGS.

SO THIS LETTER WOULD BE THE SAME LETTER YOU SAW LAST YEAR WITH A DIFFERENT DATE ON IT.

ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S A NEXT PAGE IS A LETTER REQUIRED BY FLORIDA STATUTES.

ONCE AGAIN, NO FINDING IN THAT REGARD.

IT'S JUST A STANDARD, UNMODIFIED LETTER ON PAGE 183 IS THE LETTER WE PROVIDE.

BECAUSE YOU HAD THAT SINGLE AUDIT, WHAT WE JUST LOOKED AT IN THAT CFA, IF YOU EXPEND MORE THAN $750,000 OF GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A SINGLE AUDIT. THAT IS BASICALLY AN AUDIT WITHIN AN AUDIT WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT CERTAIN GRANTS THAT WE IDENTIFY AS MAJOR GRANTS AND DETERMINE IF WE'RE ADHERING TO THE GRANT COVENANTS IN AGREEMENT.

SO THIS IS A LETTER SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING THE COMPLIANCE WITH OUR SINGLE AUDIT.

ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE POSED TO DISCLOSE ANY FINDINGS WE HAVE.

THERE ARE NO FINDINGS TO REPORT.

SO ONCE AGAIN, IT'S JUST A STANDARDIZED LETTER.

AND THE LAST WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT ON PAGE 185, ONCE AGAIN, IS THIS IS RELATED TO THE SINGLE AUDIT AS A SCHEDULE OF FINDINGS AND QUESTIONED COSTS THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE IN HERE.

IT SHOWS YOU WHAT GRANT PROGRAMS AND WE LOOKED AT TOWARDS THE BOTTOM WHEN IT SAYS IDENTIFICATION OF MAJOR PROGRAMS. AND EVERYTHING ANSWER ANSWERED.

NO. AND THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN IS GOOD.

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SO IT MIGHT BE CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU KNOW.

WE'VE LEARNED, BUT NO IS GOOD IN THIS SITUATION.

THE LAST I BELIEVE THE LAST REPORT IS ON PAGE 187.

THIS IS OUR MANAGEMENT LETTER.

THIS IS WHERE WE COMMIT TO PAPER ANY FINDINGS WE HAD OVER THE COURSE OF THE AUDIT.

THIS AUDIT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME STAFF TURNOVER, AND YOU WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A GOOD BACKUP PLAN, WHETHER THAT PERSON WANTED TO BE A BACKUP PLAN OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.

MY GUESS IS PROBABLY NOT WITH HER DAILY DUTIES, BUT SHE'S SITTING IN THE FRONT ROW, RIGHT OVER MY LEFT SHOULDER.

BUT THIS DOES TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR FINDINGS WERE? WE WE SAID THAT ALL THE FINDINGS IN THE PRIOR PERIOD HAVE BEEN CORRECTED.

AND WE HAVE NEW FINDINGS THIS YEAR AND THEIR NUMBERS ON PAGE 188, YOU CAN SEE 2023-1.

I CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER.

IT WAS TOOK A LOT OF THINKING.

IT TALKS ABOUT US JUST FINDING SOMETHING IN YOUR UTILITY BILLINGS WHERE ONE RATE WASN'T CHANGED FOR ONE TYPE OF CUSTOMER.

WE DON'T THINK IT'S SIGNIFICANT.

IT WAS CORRECTED.

WE HAVE HAD A FINDING BEFORE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S NOT THE SAME FINDING.

WE JUST ENCOURAGE WHEN THE CHANGE IS MADE FOR UTILITY RATES TO BE REVIEWED AND MAYBE PERIODICALLY JUST REVIEW IT AGAIN TO MAKE SURE SOME KINK DIDN'T HAPPEN, WHICH THREW IT OUT OF ALIGNMENT WITH THE WITH THE ORDINANCE AS FAR AS WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE CHARGED.

THE NEXT FINDING, WE JUST HAD ONE REVENUE FROM THE STATE THAT WE DIDN'T RECOGNIZE, 12 MONTH'S WORTH OF REVENUE.

WE ONLY PICKED UP 11.

SO, OUR SUGGESTION IS OBVIOUSLY BEFORE CLOSING THE BOOKS, MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT 12 PAYMENTS POSTED TO OUR REVENUE SIDE FROM THE STATE BECAUSE THEY PAY US EACH AND EVERY MONTH. THE NEXT FINDING 2023-3.

WE RECOMMEND, I THINK SOMETIMES WHAT SLOWS US DOWN AT YEAR END OR DELAYS THE STARTING OF THE AUDIT IS TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON OUR FIXED ASSETS BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH ACTIVITY GOING ON IN THEM.

EVERYBODY'S INVOLVED IN DOING THEIR WORK FROM DAY TO DAY BECAUSE IT YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST MORE IMPORTANT SOMETIMES THAN LOOKING AT FIXED ASSETS.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIME, YOU NEED TO ALLOCATE YOUR TIME MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATELY.

BUT WE GENERALLY DEFER THAT TO THE END OF THE YEAR, WHICH ELONGATES THE CLOSING PROCESS ON THE BOOKS.

SO WE JUST SUGGEST TRYING TO MAYBE KEEP IT MORE TIMELY WHERE THE BOOKS CAN BE CLOSED QUICKER AFTER YEAR END.

THE NEXT FINDING IS ABOUT EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE.

THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN CORRECTED.

THERE'S A BIG LIABILITY ON THE BOOKS FOR EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE.

THERE WAS A POSTING THERE YEARS AGO THAT DIDN'T GET CORRECTED.

THE LIABILITY KEPT GROWING, WHICH DIDN'T SEEM RIGHT.

SO WE HAD MEREDITH AND HER STAFF LOOKED INTO IT.

THEY FOUND THE PROBLEM.

THEY MADE THE ADJUSTMENT.

SO WE'RE ALL GOOD ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK THE LAST ONE HERE, WHICH IS 202 3-5 DEALS WITH THE CRA CAPITAL ASSETS.

WE ARE HAVING MORE ACTIVITY IN THE CRA ACCOUNTS NOW, AND THEY'RE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTING, RENOVATING MORE STUFF RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S NO CAPTURE OF THOSE ADDITIONS ON THE CITY'S BOOKS.

WE CONSIDER A TRANSFER TO THE CRA.

THE CRA CONSIDERS A CAPITAL OUTLAY, WHICH IS AN EXPENSE, BUT THERE'S NOBODY ACTUALLY PICKING UP THE ASSET TO SHOW WE OWN THAT ASSET.

SO MY SUGGESTION WAS, I THINK TO MEREDITH AND MAYBE MOVING FORWARD, WE WANT TO ADOPT A WAY TO DO THAT, WHICH PROBABLY SHOULD JUST BE REFLECTED ON THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS, BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS INCLUDE THE CRA, IT'S ALL LUMPED TOGETHER.

SO NO HARM, NO FOUL AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THE NUMBERS WERE SO LOW AS FAR AS THE ACTIVITY IN THE PAST.

BUT WE EXPECT THAT ACTIVITY TO PICK UP, AND WE'D BE REMISS BY NOT CAPTURING THAT DATA.

AND THAT IS IT.

I'LL BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU. PRETTY GOOD NEWS.

PRETTY GOOD NEWS.

SO. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT WRAP UP.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE DETAILED AND KIND OF THE JUST ORIENTING US, YOU KNOW, AS TO WHAT'S IMPORTANT AND WHAT CAN BE FOUND.

THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY, SO BEFORE I LEAVE, WE HAVE ONE OTHER THING.

MAYOR, I TOLD YOU DURING THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING.

THIS IS OUR LAST YEAR UNDER CONTRACT.

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SO THAT'S A LONG TIME AGO.

38 YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I DON'T EXPECT US TO BE ASKED TO RESUBMIT TO AN RFP, WHICH Y'ALL WILL BE ISSUING SOON.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE EMPLOYEES, ALL THE STAFF, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND MAYOR WE'VE SEEN ALONG THE WAY.

IT'S BEEN A JOY DOING YOUR WORK.

MEREDITH HAS MY NUMBER, OUR LETTERHEADS IN HERE WITH OUR NUMBER AND ADDRESS.

SHOULD YOU NEED ANYTHING, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US.

WE'D BE HAPPY TO HELP.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'VE BEEN HERE AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE WITH NO ANYONE ELSE.

AND I'M REALLY SAD TO SEE YOU GO, BUT I UNDERSTAND I MADE.

YOU'LL GET A GOOD FIRM.

THERE'S FIRMS THAT SPECIALIZE IN THIS THAT, THAT THEIR MACHINES, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND THEY DO IT, AND THEY DO IT WELL.

SO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY FALL OFF IN ORDERS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW.

WELL THANK YOU. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.

SO, TAKE CARE.

AND I BELIEVE AND MEREDITH IS BEHIND ME, SO SHE'S MAYBE LOOKING DAGGERS AT ME, BUT I BELIEVE WE NEED A MOTION.

OH. SHE'S THERE.

A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ACFR.

YES. THE ACFR AND THE LETTER ALSO, IF WE COULD HAVE BOTH OF THOSE APPROVED.

ARE THOSE SEPARATE THINGS OR ONE.

CAN I BE ONE? OKAY.

I THINK TOGETHER IS FINE. ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

NANCY. SIKES-KLINE.

YES. BARBARA BLONDER.

YES. CYNTHIA GARRIS.

YES. JIM. SPRINGFIELD.

YES. ROXANNE HORVATH.

YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THAT WAS A BIGGIE.

THANK YOU.

OVERALL, IT WAS VERY GOOD.

VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE ITEMS BY CITY ATTORNEY.

[11. ITEMS BY CITY ATTORNEY]

JUST IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GRANTS PASS CASE, THE SUPREME COURT RULING ON HOMELESS CAMPS AND CITY'S ENFORCEMENT OF THEM.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? HAVE YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? I HAD, AND I FELT LIKE THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT IF YOU ALL AREN'T, IF IT'S NOT TOP OF MIND, WE'LL JUST BE FINE.

I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS BEEN CORRESPONDING VERY CLEARLY WITH US BY EMAIL, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

NO, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. CERTAINLY.

SHE'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE AND HAS HER A RESOURCE PAGE ON OUR CITY WEBSITE CONCERNING HOMELESSNESS AND PANHANDLING.

SO THAT'S OFTEN WHAT I'LL SHARE WITH PEOPLE THAT COME AND ASK QUESTIONS.

THERE'S A GOOD WHITE PAPER.

THERE'S FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS THAT EXPLAIN THINGS IN LAYMAN'S TERMS. SO IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT HOMELESSNESS IS WHY WE'RE WHERE WE ARE WITH IT.

I HEAR IT'S GETTING BETTER.

I HEAR WE'RE NOT SEEING MANY NECESSARILY NOT SURE THE ROOT CAUSE, BUT THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

IT'S NOT WINTER UP NORTH EITHER.

YES. IT'S, YOU KNOW, MOVING NORTH, I SUPPOSE SOMEWHAT SEASONAL.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

SO THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM BY CITY CLERK.

I HAVE NOTHING THIS EVENING.

GREAT ITEMS BY CITY MANAGER MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON LAST COMMISSION MEETINGS, DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DEMOLITION OF 11 BRIDGE

[13. ITEMS BY CITY MANAGER]

AND I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW IN THE COMMUNITY, KNOW THAT WE LEARNED A LOT AT A STAFF LEVEL FROM THAT DIALOG AND FROM THAT THAT EVENT THAT WE BELIEVE HAS IMPROVED OUR PROCESSES FOR THE DEMOLITION OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES.

AND WE'VE DONE THAT IN A COUPLE OF WAYS.

MOST SIGNIFICANTLY, WE'RE HAVING MORE STAFF OVERSIGHT DURING THE DEMOLITION PROCESS.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT DURING THIS CONVERSATION.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE STAFF PRESENT DURING THE DEMOLITION TO ENSURE THAT WET DEMOLITIONS ARE BEING DONE.

THOSE ARE ALREADY REQUIRED TO KEEP DOWN DUST AND DEBRIS DURING THE DEMOLITION PROCESS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT STAFF MEMBER MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC AROUND THE JOB SITE THAT'S SAFE THAT ADJACENT RESIDENCES ARE AWARE OF THE DEMOLITION WHEN IT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE.

SO IF THEY WANT TO LEAVE THEIR HOUSES, THEY CAN SAFELY.

AND THAT THE STAFF WILL MAKE SURE THAT ANY SALVAGED BUILDING MATERIALS ARE SEPARATED FROM THE REFUSE PILE SO THEY CAN BE

[02:00:08]

SO EVERY FIVE YEARS WE LOOK AT THE CONDITION OF EVERY SINGLE STRUCTURE IN THE CITY AND RANK THEM BETWEEN SCORE THEM BETWEEN 1 AND 4, ONE BEING THE BEST CONDITION.

BRAND NEW HOUSE OR BRAND-NEW STRUCTURE, FOUR BEING DILAPIDATED.

AND IN 2019, WHEN WE DID THIS SURVEY, MOST RECENTLY, WE FOUND 33 PROPERTIES THAT WERE SCORED FOR, WHICH IS DILAPIDATED.

WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE 33 PROPERTIES TO SEE WHICH OF THOSE ARE STILL EXISTING, WHICH OF THOSE HAVE BEEN FIXED UP SINCE THAT TIME. AND FOR THOSE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FIXED UP, WE'RE GOING TO CONTACT THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

IF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE IN THE LINCOLNVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD UNDER THE LCRA UMBRELLA, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM INFORMATION ABOUT THE FIX IT UP PROGRAM, WHICH IS A GRANT FOR INCOME QUALIFIED HOMEOWNERS TO DO REHAB ON THEIR HOMES.

THAT INCLUDES TERMITE.

TENTING, BY THE WAY.

THAT'S AN EFFORT TO SAVE HISTORIC PROPERTIES AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THEM AND AGE IN PLACE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS ALSO IMPORTANT. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE THE MOST DILAPIDATED THAT ARE IN THE WEST CITY AREAS, CONTACT THOSE OWNERS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT A CRA IS BEING CREATED IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO A FIX IT UP PROGRAM OR SIMILAR PROGRAM THAT COULD HELP THOSE FOLKS REHAB THEIR HOMES. FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THOSE CRA BOUNDARIES OR POTENTIAL CRA BOUNDARIES.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTACT THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS AND LET THEM KNOW ABOUT OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION PROGRAM, WHICH IS WE GIVE PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS TO THE INCREASED ASSESSED VALUE OF IMPROVEMENTS TO PROPERTIES.

SO IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO GO IN AND REHAB THEIR HOUSE, THAT'S TAX FREE FOR TEN YEARS, NOT JUST THE CITY'S AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT, BUT ALSO THE COUNTY'S, THAT'S A BIG BENEFIT.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO EDUCATE FOLKS THAT THERE IS A WAY TO FIX UP YOUR HOUSE AND NOT HAVE THE TAX MAN TAKE IT AWAY FROM YOU.

FINALLY, FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE CRA BOUNDARIES BUT THAT ARE INVESTOR OWNED, WE'RE GOING TO CONTACT THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS AND WE'RE GOING TO SAY, WE BELIEVE YOUR HOUSES AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT LOOK AT THOSE HOUSES AND STRUCTURES TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO THOSE HOMEOWNERS, THOSE INVESTORS, AND SAY YOUR HOUSE NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON.

IT'S DILAPIDATED.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED IT.

YOU HAVE TO FIX THESE COMPONENTS OF THE HOUSE.

AND THAT'S THROUGH A CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.

THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE HOMEOWNERS STABILIZE THE HOUSES SO THAT THERE'S A CONTINUED LIFESPAN FOR THOSE STRUCTURES.

IT PREVENTS DEMOLITION.

THAT'S OUR GOAL.

NEXT SESSION, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ANOTHER RUN AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO TRY TO INCREASE FINES FOR THE DEMOLITION. UNPERMITTED DEMOLITION OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES.

OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WORKED DILIGENTLY DURING THIS PAST SESSION TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, AND WE CAME VERY CLOSE.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY IT AGAIN.

AND FINALLY, FOR THE FOLKS THAT DO MAKE THESE INVESTMENTS AND REHAB THEIR HOUSES, WE'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THEM.

WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A PROGRAM THAT RECOGNIZES PEOPLE THAT GO THAT EXTRA STEP TO SAVE STRUCTURES IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR FURTHER, FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE YOU TO TELL YOU THAT WE WE WERE NOT TONE DEAF WHEN THAT WHEN THE COMMUNITY CAME OUT AND VERY PASSIONATELY DISCUSSED THE DEMOLITION OF 11 BRIDGE STREET.

AND WE ARE PLANNING ON MAKING CHANGES, MOST ADMINISTRATIVELY AND IN THE FIELD TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE.

[02:05:06]

COMMENTS. I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT I BELIEVE THIS TOPIC WILL COME UP AT THE NEXT HARB MEETING AND THAT THIS SUGGESTION WILL BE MADE THAT HARB MAY COME UP WITH SOME FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND I HOPE WE SEE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH YOU OR OTHERWISE.

YES, THERE'S A WHOLE SERIES OF OTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT LOOKING AT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MASTER PLAN AND INCORPORATING SOME OF THOSE CHANGES INTO OUR CERTIFICATE OF DEMOLITION PROCESS.

THAT'S THOSE ARE FOR FOLKS THAT ARE ALREADY FOLLOWING THE HARB DEMOLITION PROCESS.

AND I DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS ON THOSE DETAILS.

I WAS GOING TO FOCUS ON THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE MOST AT RISK.

THAT WOULD BE AT JEOPARDY OF BEING DEMOLISHED THROUGH THIS EMERGENCY DEMOLITION PERMIT, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED WITH 11 BRIDGE.

BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

WE TOOK ANOTHER LOOK AT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MASTER PLAN.

THEY HAVE SUGGESTIONS ABOUT INCORPORATING MORE THINGS INTO THE DEMOLITION PROCESS.

ONE OF THOSE IS, AND I THINK I TOUCHED ON THIS BEFORE, PROVIDING FLEXIBILITY FOR PROPERTY, THE USE OF PROPERTIES SO THAT THERE'S MORE OF AN INCENTIVE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO INVEST IN THE REHABILITATION OF THOSE HOMES SO THAT THEY CAN RETURN, GET A RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT.

THAT ADAPTIVE REUSE IS A PLANNING PRINCIPLE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT, AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

WE AT THE END OF THE LAST MEETING, WE SAID AT THE END THAT THIS WASN'T THE END OF ANY OF THESE DISCUSSIONS.

AND REALLY, THIS IS VERY MUCH THE BEGINNING OF THESE DISCUSSIONS MOVING FORWARD.

AND YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE NEVER LIKE TO WAIT.

I DON'T LIKE TO WASTE CRISIS.

IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

WHILE WE HAVE PEOPLE'S PASSION IGNITED, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO TAKE ACTION AND DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED IN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MASTER PLAN CONCERNING DEMOLITIONS, ALTHOUGH THERE'S MANY GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS.

BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S TOP OF MIND RIGHT NOW.

SO YES.

AND FINALLY, WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC, THERE IS A CATEGORY OF DEMOLITION THAT IS STATUTORILY EXEMPT FROM HARB.

THAT'S NOT EMERGENCY DEMOLITION PERMITS.

AND IT'S BASED ON A 2022 STATE LAW THAT PERTAINS TO HOMES THAT HAVE FLOODED AND THAT WHO'S THEIR BASE FLOOD ELEVATION IS BELOW THE MINIMUM FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION, OR I SHOULD SAY, THE MINUTE THEIR FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION IS BELOW BASE FLOOD ELEVATION.

WE SAW ONE OF THESE HOMES COME DOWN RECENTLY ON CHARLOTTE STREET, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT ALTHOUGH STATE LAW SAYS WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE THOSE PROPERTIES THROUGH THE HARB DEMOLITION PROCESS, OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF DOCUMENTS THOSE STRUCTURES BEFORE THEY COME DOWN TO THE SAME DEGREE AND SPECIFICITY AS IF THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THE HARB PROCESS. SO AT THE VERY LEAST, WE ARE MAINTAINING A VERY DETAILED RECORD OF THOSE HOMES THAT COME DOWN, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE STATE SAYS WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE THEM THROUGH THE HARD PROCESS.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT WE'RE DOING EVERY SINGLE THING WE POSSIBLY CAN, EVEN WHEN OUR HANDS ARE TIED BY THE STATE FOR THESE SPECIFIC TYPES OF DEMOLITIONS. YEAH.

YEAH. SO JUST ONE QUESTION.

I THINK ON THOSE PARTICULAR ONES, THAT WITH THE BILL THAT PASSED IN 2022, DO WE HAVE ANY ABILITY TO SPECIFY ANY CONTROL OVER WHAT'S ON THE REPLACEMENT STRUCTURE? WE DO WE STILL RETAIN THAT.

OKAY. WELL, THAT'S GOOD.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I'M SURE WE'LL SEE.

I'M SURE THAT THERE'S CONFUSION IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT LAW AS WELL.

IN FACT, I DID HEAR SOME CAUSE I HAD SOME CORRESPONDENCE ABOUT THAT OVER THE WEEKEND, OVER THE HOLIDAY.

SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT THAT THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE.

YEAH. AND THAT WAS ANOTHER BILL THAT WENT THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE THAT WE FOUGHT VERY HARD AGAINST.

YES, WE DID, AND ULTIMATELY DID NOT.

WE ACTUALLY GOT SOME WE GOT SOME LANGUAGE.

WE DID. IT WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH.

IT REALLY WASN'T. IT JUST WASN'T NEARLY GOOD ENOUGH.

IT WAS SOMETHING. BUT SO IT'S DIFFICULT DEALING WITH THE STATE.

[02:10:01]

DO YOU MIND PLEASE PLEASE DO WE GIVE THOSE PEOPLE EDUCATION ON THE FACT THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO RAISE THEIR HOUSE BEFORE THEY DECIDE TO DEMO IT? YES. WHEN THEY COME IN FOR DEMOLITION, THERE IS A PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOW.

IT STARTS WITH THE BUILDING OFFICIAL GIVING OPTIONS.

IT ALSO.

THEN IT IS TRANSFERRED TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE FOR THE DOCUMENTATION.

AND THEN FINALLY WITH THE PERMIT PROCESS ITSELF.

AND I JUST TOLD YOU HOW WE'RE GOING TO TIGHTEN UP OUR ACTUAL IN THE FIELD MONITORING OF THE DEMOLITION.

SO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE AWARE OF OF THEIR OPTIONS.

THAT PARTICULAR HOUSE ON CHARLOTTE STREET HAD ACTUALLY EVEN GONE TO A PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, I BELIEVE, FOR AN ADDITION.

AND SO IT IT WAS IT WAS IN THE SYSTEM AT THE TIME.

THANK YOU.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO I HOPE THE WORK CONTINUES.

AND WE ALSO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW TO USE HOW TO MAYBE USE SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WE WOULD WHEN WE ANTICIPATE CREATING A HISTORIC PRESERVATION FUND, JUST LIKE WE HAVE THE CONSERVATION FUND ACQUISITION FUND, WE'D HAVE.

THERE MAY BE SOME MECHANISM THAT WE CAN PUT IN THAT COULD ALSO HELP.

AND WE'LL YOU'LL BE HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT FROM US.

BUT THE DISCUSSIONS CONTINUE AND WILL CONTINUE.

SO, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT REPORT.

THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.

ANYTHING ELSE.

THAT'S IT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER, MAYORS AND COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS.

[14. ITEMS BY MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS]

OKAY. I HAVE SOME COMMENTS.

FIRST OF ALL, WE AS EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT WE DID GET THE MUSEUM IS SUPPOSED TO COME HERE TO WE GOT A 6 TO 1 VOTE TO GET THE MUSEUM, THE FEDERAL STATE MUSEUM THAT'S GOING TO GO OUT WEST OF TOWN ON THE PROPERTY THAT FLORIDA MEMORIAL OWNS, WHERE THEY GAVE US.

I BELIEVE IT IS 14.5 ACRES OF LAND FOR THAT TO BE BUILT.

THAT ONE OF THEIR CONCERNS WAS GETTING PEOPLE TO THAT LOCATION.

AND PRIOR TO IT GETTING APPROVED, I SAW DAVID CHATTERMAN AND I HAD SUGGESTED.

WELL, I ASKED HIM THAT MAYBE THE STAR CIRCULATOR COULD GO THERE TWICE A DAY.

JUST RUNNING TOURISTS OUT THAT WAY TO THAT MUSEUM.

AND HE SAID THAT THAT WAS UP TO THE CITY BECAUSE WE OWN THE STAR CIRCULATOR.

SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR IN THE FUTURE THAT WE COULD CONSIDER.

AND WE COULD POST THAT IN THE BIC.

JUST GETTING SOME PEOPLE THAT MIGHT HAVE COME HERE ON A BUS OR SOME OTHER TRANSPORTATION, AND THEY REALLY CAN'T GET OUT THERE WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE EXPENSE OF AN UBER, MAYBE ONCE THAT MORNING AND ONCE THAT AFTERNOON.

THAT'S SOMETHING DOWN THE PIKE.

ON INDEPENDENCE DAY, 4TH OF JULY, WHEN WE HAVE THE FIREWORKS, I SEEN CHIEF AVILES DOWN BY THE FORT AREA, NOT THE FORT AREA, BUT THE BAYFRONT.

AND I WAS ASKING HIM BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD TALKED RECENTLY ABOUT TRYING TO RELOCATE THE NEW FIRE STATION TO THAT SKATE PARK BECAUSE THE OTHER PROPERTY FELL THROUGH THE STATE PARK AREA FELL THROUGH, AND WE HAD A LOT OF RESIDENTS COMING IN CONCERNING ABOUT THEY DIDN'T WANT IT THERE. AND FROM WHAT HE SAID WAS WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF KICKBACK ABOUT THE SKATE PARK NOW THAT THE NEIGHBORS, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THEY DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY OUT THERE SKATING BECAUSE I USED TO GET A LOT OF CALLS SAYING THAT THEY COULDN'T TAKE THE NOISE FROM THE SKATING.

AND ONE TIME THEY HAD AN EVENT, AND THEY WERE MAKING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS.

SO, HE'S GETTING VERY DISCOURAGED, RIGHTFULLY SO.

AND HE DID SAY HOW THE CITY MANAGER AND THE ASSISTANT MANAGER ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND DIFFERENT AREAS IN OVER THERE ON THE ISLAND.

HE SAID THAT HE REALLY WANTS TO GO FORGET ABOUT THE WHOLE ISLAND THING AT THIS POINT, TRYING TO FIND NEW SPACE AND DEAL WITH NORTH OF TOWN. BECAUSE THEY NEED A FIRE STATION THERE.

AND HE MENTIONED TWO PLACES ON SAN MARCO THAT HE THOUGHT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR A FIRE STATION.

ONE BEING WHERE THE CHEESE WILL IS AND THERE'S AN EMPTY LOT.

AND I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, HE HAS DONE GREAT THINGS SINCE HE WAS OUR FIRE CHIEF.

AND THE LAST THING WE NEED IS FOR HIM TO BE DISCOURAGED.

HE'S GOTTEN MANY AWARDS.

HE DOES A GREAT JOB WITH 911.

[02:15:01]

I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD OUR EFFORTS AND GO WITH NORTH CITY AREA.

I THINK THEY WOULD EMBRACE THE NEW FIRE STATION.

I THINK THAT THERE'S LAND AVAILABLE.

I THINK IT WILL BUILD MORALE AND I THINK IT WILL MAKE THE PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND REALIZE, HEY, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SO HASTY ABOUT WHERE THE FIRE STATION WAS, AND THEN WE CAN EVENTUALLY GET ONE ON THE ISLAND.

BUT WHILE THE MOMENTUM IS HIGH AND WE JUST GOT THIS BUDGET REPORT SAYING HOW GREAT WE'RE DOING, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BLESS YOU WHILE THE PROPERTY IS AVAILABLE.

I THINK WE SHOULD PUSH FORWARD JUST TO GIVE THE FIRE STATION GUYS THAT ADRENALINE THAT WE HEAR THEM, AND WE SEE THEM, AND IT WILL NOT ONLY REWARD THEM, IT WILL REWARD FULLERWOOD, NORTH OF TOWN.

IT WILL. I MEAN, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET A LOT OF PLACES DOWN MASTER'S DRIVE QUICKER THAN TRYING TO COME FROM SOME OF THE LOCATIONS THAT THEY CURRENTLY ARE.

SO, I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE I WILL BE BRINGING THAT UP IN OUR BUDGET MEETINGS.

I FEEL I GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO SALLY GARDNER'S FAMILY.

SHE WAS A BEAUTIFUL SOUL.

HER AND GEORGE, WHEN THEY WERE PART OF THE CITY, HE WAS THE MAYOR.

AND SHE WAS THE FIRST LADY OF THE CITY DURING HIS TENURE.

AND I SEND MY PRAYERS UP FOR THEM.

AND I WOULD LIKE IF WE FIND OUT SOME FUNERAL INFORMATION THAT FORWARD IT TO ME.

ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE TODAY, BJ KALAIDI.

SHE BROUGHT UP THE FEBRUARY 26TH, 24, WHEN I SAID THAT THERE WAS DISCRIMINATION AND SHE IMPLIED THAT I LIED, OR I GAVE FALSE INFORMATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? SHE MADE SOME KIND OF STATEMENT REFERENCING THAT.

SO, CITY MANAGER, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO BRING THAT UP AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

THE FINDINGS ON THAT SO I CAN SAY MY POSITION ON WHY I SAID WHAT I SAID AND WHAT I FIND ABOUT THE FINDINGS ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC.

SO THANK YOU.

THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

OKAY. LET'S SEE.

VERY NICE TO HAVE COMMISSIONER BONDER BACK.

WELCOME BACK. WE MISSED YOU.

TOMORROW, WE HAVE A MEETING WHERE THE THREE FINALISTS WILL BE PRESENTING THEIR ART TO THE COMMITTEE.

AND WE HOPE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTING AND PRODUCTIVE.

SO HOPEFULLY I'LL HAVE MORE TO REPORT.

NOT THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE I WILL NOT BE HERE, BUT THE NEXT MEETING, HOPEFULLY.

SO THAT'S MY COMMENTS.

VERY WELL. YEAH, I HAVE A FEW.

ONE IS I GOT A NOTE ABOUT THE FOURTH, THE FIREWORKS DAY AFTER THAT.

THE CITY WAS PERFECTLY CLEAN WHEN THEY GOT UP IN THE MORNING TO DO THEIR 730 JOG.

YOU'D NEVER KNOWN THAT THERE WAS A FIREWORKS, SO KUDOS TO WHOEVER MILLION PEOPLE WENT OUT THAT MORNING AND CLEANED UP.

I APPRECIATE IT.

WE I APPRECIATE US HAVING THE, THE INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN BEFORE THE MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC, AND I APPRECIATE YOU READING IT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SEE IF WE COULD MENTION IS THE STATE YOUR NAME.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES SO THAT PEOPLE ARE CLEAR.

AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE AUDIT.

I WENT THROUGH A LOT OF AUDITS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD DONE BY THE STATE, AND WE KNOW THAT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS A TOUGH JOB.

BUT WHAT I ALSO WANT TO MENTION IS THAT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY EMPLOYEE WHO HOLDS A DEBIT CARD DRIVES A VEHICLE, DOES ANY PURCHASING, CONDUCTS ANY INVENTORY, SHOULD ALSO BE RECOGNIZED AS BEING A PART OF THAT TEAM.

THAT GOT US A REALLY GOOD REPORT TONIGHT, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD BE RECOGNIZED IN SOME WAY, BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

TO BE THE STEWARDS OF PUBLIC MONEY AND TO DO IT WELL IS KUDOS TO EVERYBODY WHO HAD ANY INPUT ON THAT.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, THE COMMISSIONER GARETH.

THANK YOU. THAT'S IT.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, I WANT TO SEGUE OFF OF VICE MAYOR HORVATH'S.

WELCOME BACK. IT'S BEEN.

I WAS IN THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE, SO IT WAS WINTER THERE, AND OUR AIR CONDITIONING BROKE DOWN OVER THE WEEKEND.

SO, WE'VE HAD A ROUGH TRANSITION BACK TO FLORIDA.

THAT ACTUALLY IS A SEGUE INTO MY ONLY COMMENTS.

AND IT'S I WAS I'M FRUSTRATED STILL ABOUT THE SOME OF THE STATE LEGISLATIVE POLICIES

[02:20:01]

I HAVE ASKED HERE AND ALSO HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

AND THE CITY ATTORNEY NOW HAS SAID THAT WE CAN, AS A CITY, MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPING OUR OWN POLICIES ON PROTECTING OUR PEOPLE.

AND I THINK IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US TO DO THAT.

IT'S A DUTY. IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY, AND IT'S HUMANE.

AND IT ALSO IS ABOUT PRODUCTIVITY.

IF SOMEBODY IS IN THE HOSPITAL, THEN WE HAVE HIGHER MEDICAL BILLS.

AND THEIR FAMILIES ARE AFFECTED.

HE, HE, YOU KNOW, HEAT IS A REAL KILLER.

AND OUR EMPLOYEES DESERVE BETTER.

AND WHAT I'M HOPING IS THAT WE CAN DEVELOP A POLICY, WHATEVER THAT IS A CAN BE A MODEL FOR SMALL BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY, SMALL AND LARGER BUSINESSES TO ADOPT OR MODIFY AS NEEDED.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING AS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RESILIENCY, WE'VE GOT TO BE RESILIENT TO ALL OF THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE, INCLUDING SEA LEVEL RISE, INCLUDING MORE INTENSE STORMS AND INCLUDING THE EFFECTS ON US, OUR PETS AND OTHERS.

SO, I WILL URGE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPING SOME PROTECTIONS FOR POLICIES FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

I KNOW THAT THE ARCHEOLOGY DEPARTMENT IS DOING A GREAT JOB WITH IT ALREADY.

AND I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY INSTITUTED SOME, SOME MEASURES.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY.

PERFECT. THANK YOU.

I HAVE NOTHING. SO, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

OKAY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.