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>> GOOD EVENING. THIS MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> NANCY SIKES-KLINE.

>> HERE.

>> ROXANNE HORVATH.

>> HERE.

>> BARBARA BLONDER.

>> HERE.

>> CYNTHIA GARRIS.

>> HERE.

>> JIM SPRINGFIELD.

>> HERE.

>> WE WILL TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY VICE MAYOR ROXANNE HORVATH.

THANK YOU.

>> PLEASE RISE AND JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE.

>> PLEASE BE SEATED. MODIFICATION AND APPROVAL OF THE REGULAR AGENDA.

[2. ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS]

MR. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE ANY MODIFICATIONS?

>> NO, MA'AM. WE HAVE NO MODIFICATIONS OF THE AGENDA.

>> COMMISSIONERS, MODIFICATIONS?

>> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA.

>> I SECOND.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES.

WE MOVE ON TO SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS,

[3. SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS, RECOGNITIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS]

RECOGNITIONS, AND PROCLAMATIONS.

FIRST IS I WILL JUST MAKE ONE DISCLAIMER.

COMMISSIONER BLONDER IS GOING TO SIT THROUGH THE READING OF THE PROCLAMATIONS, BUT SHE'LL COME FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A NICE PHOTOGRAPH AFTER EACH PROCLAMATION IS READ DUE TO MEDICAL CONDITIONS IF YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN.

>> THANK YOU.

>> IF THERE'S ANY MORE [OVERLAPPING].

>> MY LEG IS STILL HEALING AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO STAND FOR A LONG TIME.

>> A VERY GOOD REASON TO STAY SEATED.

>> OUR VERY FIRST PROCLAMATION IS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH.

THAT IS VICE MAYOR HORVATH.

>> I HAVE IT.

>> YOU CAN HAVE THAT, THIS IS THE POETRY AND THAT IS THE SEXUAL.

WE GO FIRST WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS.

>> EVERYBODY WILL JOIN ME UP FRONT.

WE HAVE ALISON HASHAW.

HI ALISON, PLEASE JOIN US.

WE'LL PUT YOU IN THE MIDDLE. PUT YOU RIGHT THERE.

WELCOME. IS IT THIS TIME OF YEAR AGAIN? OH MY GOD, IT FLIES BY, DOESN'T IT? THIS PROCLAMATION READS, "WHEREAS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH IS INTENDED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS WIDESPREAD AND HAS PUBLIC HEALTH IMPLICATIONS FOR EVERY COMMUNITY MEMBER OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

WHEREAS RAPE, SEXUAL ASSAULT, AND SEXUAL HARASSMENT IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY AS SEEN BY STATISTICS INDICATING THAT ONE IN FIVE WOMEN WILL HAVE EXPERIENCED SEXUAL ASSAULT BY THE TIME THEY COMPLETE COLLEGE.

WHEREAS WE MUST WORK TOGETHER TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PREVENT SEXUAL ASSAULT AND HOW TO SUPPORT SURVIVORS.

WHEREAS STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS OF ANTI-VIOLENCE PROGRAMS AT THE BETTY GRIFFIN CENTER ENCOURAGE EVERY PERSON TO SPEAK OUT WHEN WITNESSING ACTS OF VIOLENCE, HOWEVER SMALL.

WHEREAS WITH LEADERSHIP, DEDICATION, AND ENCOURAGEMENT, THERE IS COMPELLING EVIDENCE THAT WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IN REDUCING SEXUAL VIOLENCE IN ST. AUGUSTINE THROUGH PREVENTION, EDUCATION, INCREASED AWARENESS, AND HOLDING PERPETRATORS WHO COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

WHEREAS BETTY GRIFFIN CENTER STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE EFFORTS OF NATIONAL, STATE, AND LOCAL PARTNERS AND OF EVERY CITIZEN TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE IN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE EFFORTS, INCLUDING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS, HOW TO PREVENT IT, HOW TO HELP SURVIVORS CONNECT WITH SERVICES, AND HOW EVERY SEGMENT OF OUR SOCIETY CAN WORK TOGETHER TO BETTER ADDRESS SEXUAL VIOLENCE." NOW THEREFORE, THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ST.

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AUGUSTINE HEREBY PROCLAIMS THE MONTH OF APRIL 2024, A SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

THIS IS SIGNED BY OUR MAYOR, NANCY SIKES-KLINE.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING.

>> I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS AND THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF OUR MISSION TO HELP END SEXUAL VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

>> WE'RE SO THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I REMEMBER WHEN IT STARTED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M NOT SHAKING HANDS TODAY.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> I WAS ON THE BOARD TOO, THAT LONG.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD WORK YOU ARE DOING.

>> THANK YOU FOR THIS. [APPLAUSE]

>> NANCY, OUR SECOND.

>> THE SECOND ONE IS THE EDUCATION, SHERRY.

>> MAYOR.

>> THIS IS POETRY.

I THINK IT'S [INAUDIBLE].

>> WE'RE ORGANIZED OR NOT.

>> THIS IS MONDAY.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S MONDAY.

IS RABBI VOGEL HERE? IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE EDUCATION AND SHARING DAY TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION? IF NOT, THEN WE WILL ACCEPT IT ON HIS BEHALF.

"WHEREAS EXCELLENCE IN EDUCATION IS VITAL TO THE SUCCESS OF OUR CITY AND IN ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, WE SEEK TO INSTILL EACH CHILD, AN ADOLESCENT, WITH A GOOD EDUCATION.

WHEREAS BY PREPARING OUR STUDENTS FOR THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES OF THE FUTURE, EDUCATION DEVELOPS THE INTELLECT THROUGH LESSONS ON LITERACY, MATH, AND SCIENCE.

WHEREAS THE RABBI MENACHEM SCHNEERSON OF RIGHTEOUS MEMORY DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO THE BETTERMENT OF MANKIND AND TIRELESSLY ADVOCATED FOR A BETTER EDUCATION FOR ALL AMERICANS.

WHEREAS RABBI TAUGHT THAT EDUCATION WOULD NOT BE LIMITED TO THE ACQUISITION OF KNOWLEDGE AND PREPARATION FOR A CAREER.

BUT ALSO ON CHARACTER BUILDING, WITH EMPHASIS ON UNIVERSAL MORAL AND ETHICAL VALUES THAT ARE THE BASIS OF ANY PEACEFUL, CIVILIZED SOCIETY.

WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS HAS ESTABLISHED EDUCATION AND SHARING DAY USA AS AN ANNUAL NATIONAL DAY TO COMMEMORATE THE RABBI'S ACHIEVEMENTS AND THE LESSONS AND THE VISION HE SET FORTH ARE RELEVANT TO ALL OF US TODAY." NOW, THEREFORE BE PROCLAIMED THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 19TH, 2024 AS EDUCATION AND SHARING DAY ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA.

CALLS UPON EDUCATORS, VOLUNTEERS, AND CITIZENS TO REACH OUT TO YOUNG PEOPLE TO WORK TO CREATE A BETTER, BRIGHTER, AND MORE HOPEFUL FUTURE FOR ALL.

THERE IT IS. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE.

>> COULD JOANNE ALICEA COME UP, AND HER FAMILY? OR NOT.

WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR AUTISM AWARENESS.

WHEREAS INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES, SUCH AS THOSE WITH AUTISM AND THEIR FAMILIES ARE A VALUABLE PART OF ANY COMMUNITY.

WHEREAS ENGAGEMENT WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS IS FUNDAMENTAL TO A HEALTHY COMMUNITY WHERE INCLUSION IS A NORM,

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RECOGNIZING THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WHEREAS IN ADDITION TO THE CLINICAL AND EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE, THE NEED FOR SOCIAL RECREATION AND EMOTIONAL SUPPORT IS VITAL FOR THE OVERALL WELLNESS OF THESE INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR FAMILIES.

WHEREAS INDIVIDUALS WITH INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY HAVE LIMITED ACCESS TO THESE SUPPORTS.

WHEREAS ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS ABILITY TREE FIRST COAST HELP THESE INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR FAMILIES EXPERIENCE REST, RECREATION, EDUCATION, SUPPORT, AND TRAINING.

WHEREAS THE STRENGTH AND SUSTAINABILITY OF ABILITY TREE FIRST COAST IS DEPENDENT ON THE SUPPORT FROM BUSINESSES, CHURCHES, CIVIC GROUPS, AND MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY.

WHEREAS THE FOCUS OF AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH IN APRIL IS SUPPORTING THESE INDIVIDUAL JOURNEYS BY BEING ENGAGED WITH THE AND SUPPORTING ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS ABILITY TREE FIRST COAST, WHO HAVE A MISSION TO CREATE INCLUSIVE AND SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY CAN ENJOY HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, SCHOOLS, WORKPLACE, AND CHURCHES.

NOW THEREFORE BE A PROCLAIM, THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 2024 AS AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH AND ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS TO OBSERVE THIS MONTH WITH APPROPRIATE PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES, AND CEREMONIES.

SIGNED, MAYOR NANCY SIKES-KLINE.

THANKS, KLEIN. CONGRATULATIONS.

>> I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING AND BEING AWARE.

THERE'S ONE IN 44 CHILDREN THAT ARE DIAGNOSED WITH AUTISM.

EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO CURE, EARLY DIAGNOSIS AND INTERVENTION CERTAINLY CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN HELPING THEM BE SUCCESSFUL, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO BE THERE FOR. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> TAKE A PICTURE.

>> I THINK ROXANNE IS ON DECK.

>> OKAY. I GOT IT.

WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION REGARDING NATIONAL POETRY MONTH, AND I'M GOING TO READ THAT.

THEN MELISSA WHISTLE, WHO IS OUR COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, IS GOING TO READ A POEM BY OUR POET LAUREATE.

YOU'RE NOT READING IT? WHAT?

>> WE'LL GET TO THAT PART.

THE PROCLAMATION READS, "WHEREAS NATIONAL POETRY MONTH SEEKS TO HIGHLIGHT THE EXTRAORDINARY LEGACY AND ONGOING ACHIEVEMENT OF AMERICAN POETS, INTRODUCE AMERICANS TO THE PLEASURES AND BENEFITS OF READING POETRY, BRING POETS AND POETRY TO THE PUBLIC IN IMMEDIATE AND INNOVATIVE WAYS, MAKE POETRY AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION, AND WHEREAS POETRY AS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES AFFECTS EVERY ASPECT OF LIFE IN AMERICA TODAY, INCLUDING EDUCATION, THE ECONOMY, THE COMMUNITY PRIDE AND DEVELOPMENT.

WHEREAS POETRY HAS PRODUCED SOME OF THE NATION'S LEADING CREATIVE ARTISTS AND HAS INSPIRED OTHER ARTISTS IN FIELDS SUCH AS MUSIC, THEATER, FILM, DANCE, AND THE VISUAL ARTS.

WHEREAS ST. AUGUSTINE SERVED AS THE HOME OR SOURCE OF INSPIRATION OF NUMEROUS LITERARY LEGENDS, INCLUDING RENOWNED AUTHORS MARJORIE KINNAN RAWLINGS, ZORA NEALE HURSTON, AND PULITZER PRIZE WINNING POET, WILLIAM ROSE BENET.

WHEREAS THIS LITERARY TRADITION CONTINUES TODAY THROUGH THE WORK OF LOCAL AUTHORS, SUPPORTING IN THEIR EFFORTS BY ORGANIZING SUCH AS THE ANCIENT CITY POETS AND OUR LOCAL ARTS AGENCY, THE ST. JOHN'S CULTURAL COUNCIL.

NOW, THEREFORE, THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL 2024 AS NATIONAL POETRY MONTH IN ST. AUGUSTINE AND ENCOURAGES CITIZENS TO CELEBRATE AND PROMOTE THE LITERARY TRADITIONS AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF LOCAL AUTHORS DURING THIS MONTH AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

SIGNED BY OUR MAYOR, NANCY SIKES-KLINE.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW? YES?

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK?

>> VERY BRIEFLY. I GOT A PHONE CALL THIS MORNING FROM NORMA AND SHE SENDS HER REGRETS BUT SOMETHING CAME UP THAT SHE COULD NOT BE HERE.

SHE WAS VERY UPSET BUT IT WAS UNAVOIDABLE.

I ASSURED HER WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION ON

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HER BEHALF SINCE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CELEBRATE THIS FOR THE WHOLE MONTH.

WHEN SHE'S ABLE, SHE WILL BE BACK, HOPEFULLY AT OUR NEXT MEETING, TO READ HER POEM.

I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT JUSTICE, SO I'M GOING TO LET HER COME AND READ HER WORDS AT THE NEXT MEETING.

>> ALL RIGHT. GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS OR FOR AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING]

NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

FIRST FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE SUSAN GREGORY FOLLOWED BY NANCY MURPHY.

SUSAN GREGORY FOLLOWED BY NANCY MURPHY.

WELCOME. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> SUSAN GREGORY. 23 LOCUST STREET, ABBOTT TRACT.

>>YES.

>> HI. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO COME TO A SECOND READING THE COMMERCIAL PARKING ORDINANCE, THE MEETING ON THE 22ND, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK THEN BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE TOO LATE.

WE, AS A COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION.

WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GATHER DATA ON WHAT OUR RESIDENTIAL PARKING LOOKS LIKE NOW AND I'M ONLY A THIRD OF THE WAY THROUGH.

I'M HOPING THAT THERE'S DATA AVAILABLE TO ME THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE SOLUTIONS WILL BE IF THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ISN'T REQUIRED TO HAVE PARKING ANYMORE.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR RESIDENTS ALONG THAT COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR? THAT'S ONE QUESTION.

THE OTHER IS, THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY MET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, THAT HAVE PARKING LOTS FOR THEIR BUSINESSES, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM? ARE THEY GOING TO BE ALLOWED THEN TO OPEN UP THEIR PARKING AS PAID PARKING? WILL THEY BE RELIEVED OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE PARKING TO THEIR GUESTS? GOSH, I HAD SO MANY QUESTIONS, SO I DIDN'T THINK I WAS JUST GOING TO HAVE TO GO FIRST.

WE'RE IN A UNIQUE AREA OF ST. AUGUSTINE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE FLANKED BETWEEN THE FORT, THE CROSS.

WE HAVE EVERY FESTIVAL, EVERY PARADE, FOURTH OF JULY, CHRISTMAS TIME, WE TAKE ALL THE OVERFLOW ALREADY.

THAT AND HALF THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW IS AIRBNB SO WE HAVE ALL THE PARKING THERE AS WELL.

EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE APPLICATIONS TO USE THE PARKING GARAGE, THEY DON'T.

WE CAN'T ABSORB THE EXTRA PARKING FROM THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS GOING TO BE.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S DRIVING THIS IMPETUS TO TURN THAT ENTIRE ZONE INTO NO RESTRICTIONS FOR PARKING FOR ANYBODY APPLYING FOR A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.

THAT SAID, I LOVE THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING, THAT ARE RESIDENT OWNED.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD LOVE A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS COMING IN THAT HAD NO RESTRICTIONS ON PARKING.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY LIKE THE RESIDENT OWNED BUSINESSES DO.

I'M ALL FOR LOOKING AT THINGS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

I THINK GRANTING VARIANCES IS A GREAT TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX TO CONTROLLING GROWTH IN THE CITY AND CONTROLLING WHAT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS LOOK LIKE.

BUT IF YOU TAKE THAT TOOL AWAY, THEN WHAT DO WE HAVE? WHICH BUSINESSES ARE COMING IN? IF A HUGE BUILDING SELLS AND IT BECOMES A REALLY LARGE RESTAURANT OR NIGHTCLUB OR SOMETHING WITH LOTS OF CARS, THEN WHERE DO THEY GO? WE DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE TIME.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE WILL HAVE ANSWERS FOR YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE WILL.

>> MAYOR BEFORE THE NEXT SPEAKER COMES UP, WE WERE PLANNING ON.

>> WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS ON THAT TOPIC, SO MAYBE.

>> BEFORE THE NEXT SPEAKER COMES UP, WE WERE PLANNING ON BRINGING SECOND READING FOR THAT ORDINANCE BACK AT THE MAY 13TH MEETING TO GIVE US MORE TIME FOR PUBLIC OUTREACH. JUST SO YOU KNOW.

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALL HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO,

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IS MORE INFORMATION ON THAT ORDINANCE.

NANCY MURPHY, FOLLOWED BY RITA COATES.

>> WELCOME.

>> HI. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL FOR WELCOMING ME.

I AM HERE TO SAY I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT I GOT TO WAKE UP AT 22 VARONESS COURT AGAIN TODAY IN BEAUTIFUL ST. AUGUSTINE.

A COMPASSIONATE CITY, TRULY AS REFLECTED BY THESE BEAUTIFUL PROCLAMATIONS THAT WERE JUST GIVEN.

EACH ONE REFLECTS A PORTION OF THE COMPASSION THAT WE GET TO WITNESS, SHARE, AND EXPERIENCE, PRACTICE HERE IN ST. AUGUSTINE.

I'D LIKE TO READ YOU THE FIRST AND LAST PARAGRAPHS OF THE CHARTER JUST TO REMIND YOU OF HOW WELL YOU'RE DOING AND WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE WITHIN THIS.

THE CHARTER FOR COMPASSION READS, "THE PRINCIPLE OF COMPASSION LIES AT THE HEART OF ALL RELIGIOUS, SPIRITUAL, AND ETHICAL TRADITIONS, CALLING US ALWAYS TO TREAT ALL OTHERS AS WE WISH TO BE TREATED OURSELVES.

COMPASSION IMPELS US TO WORK TIRELESSLY TO ALLEVIATE THE SUFFERING OF OUR FELLOW CREATURES.

TO DETHRONE OURSELVES FROM THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE AND PUT ANOTHER THERE.

AND TO HONOR THE INVIOLABLE SANCTITY OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING, TREATING EVERYBODY WITHOUT EXCEPTION WITH ABSOLUTE JUSTICE, EQUITY, AND RESPECT.

WE URGENTLY NEED TO MAKE COMPASSION A CLEAR, LUMINOUS, AND DYNAMIC FORCE IN OUR POLARIZED WORLD.

ROOTED IN A PRINCIPLED DETERMINATION TO TRANSCEND SELFISHNESS, COMPASSION CAN BREAK DOWN POLITICAL, DOGMATIC, IDEOLOGICAL, AND RELIGIOUS BOUNDARIES.

BORN OF OUR DEEP INTERDEPENDENCE, COMPASSION IS ESSENTIAL TO HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS AND TO A FULFILLED HUMANITY.

IT IS THE PATH TO ENLIGHTENMENT AND INDISPENSABLE TO THE CREATION OF A JUST ECONOMY AND A PEACEFUL GLOBAL COMMUNITY".

THIS WAS FIRST READ IN GENEVA, SWITZERLAND IN FEBRUARY OF 2009 AND FIVE YEARS LATER IN ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, COMPASSION AT ST. AUGUSTINE WAS PUT INTO PLACE BY THE SUPPORT OF THIS COMMISSION AND THE MAYOR AT THE TIME AND CONTINUES TO BE BUSY INFLUENCING, INSPIRING, AND GROWING A CULTURE OF COMPASSION THROUGH ADVOCACY, AWARENESS, AND ACTION.

LAST FRIDAY, APRIL 5TH, WAS GOLDEN RULE DAY, AND THE CHARTER FOR COMPASSION WAS FOUNDED ON THE GOLDEN RULE AND THE UBIQUITOUSNESS OF IT.

I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO PUT APRIL 5TH ON THEIR CALENDAR GOING FORWARD AS NOW THAT IT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION, WHAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IT IS FOR US TO RECOGNIZE ACTS OF COMPASSION THAT WE GET TO PARTICIPATE IN AND THAT WE GET TO RECEIVE.

THAT'S AN INTERNATIONAL APRIL 5TH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU, RITA COATES, FOLLOWED BY ALLY BIRCHFIELD.

SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY SPEAKERS, IF YOU'RE THE NEXT SPEAKER CALLED, WE HAVE A SEAT FOR YOU AT THE FRONT AND WE'LL ASK YOU TO PREPARE YOURSELF THERE.

THANK YOU, MISS COATES, WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YOU WANT TO SHARE HIS NAME AND ADDRESS?

>> YES. RITA COATES, 17 LOCUST STREET.

I AM A PERMANENT AND FULL TIME RESIDENT LIVING IN THE ABBOTT TRACT SECTION OF THE UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.

IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS RECOMMENDING TO REMOVE ALL COMMERCIAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ON SAN MARCO FROM WEST CASTILLO TO MAY STREET.

I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT THE COMMISSION TABLE THIS ORDINANCE.

AS A FULL TIME RESIDENT, THERE IS ALREADY A PROBLEM WITH PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

PERSONS FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT DO NOT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FLOOD ABBOTT TRACT FOR PARKING TO VISIT DOWNTOWN AND THE MERCHANTS ON SAN MARCO.

ORDINANCE 2024-005 WILL ONLY EXACERBATE THIS PROBLEM WHILE OFFERING NO SOLUTIONS TO THE CURRENT ISSUES.

THIS MAKES IT IMPERATIVE FOR YOU TO IMMEDIATELY INTERVENE AND PROTECT THE RESIDENTS.

BY ELIMINATING PARKING REQUIREMENTS, YOU CAN EXPECT TO COMPLETELY CHANGE THE CURRENT BUSINESSES PROPERTY VALUES AND RENTS WILL INCREASE BECAUSE THE USE WILL CHANGE.

CURRENT SMALLER LOCAL BUSINESSES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE INCREASED RENTS AND WILL MOVE.

BARS AND RESTAURANTS WILL UNDOUBTEDLY FILL THE VOID.

NON-RESIDENT PARKING WILL BECOME A NIGHTMARE IN THIS TINY HISTORIC DISTRICT KNOWN AS ABBOTT TRACT, WHICH YOU AS A CITY HAVE STATED YOU WANT TO PRESERVE.

THIS CHANGE DOES NOT BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OR IN

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THE LONG TERM COMMITMENT OF THE CITY TO LIVABILITY.

ONCE CHANGED, THIS EXPERIMENT BECOMES PERMANENT AND THE RESIDENTS TAKE ON THE BURDEN.

THE COMMISSION WILL BE UNABLE OR UNWILLING TO CHANGE THIS BACK.

THERE ARE MANY RESIDENCES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DO NOT HAVE OFF-STREET PARKING.

THEIR ONLY OPTION IS STREET PARKING.

THIS WILL LIMIT THEIR CHOICES.

BUT IT IS ALSO NOT KNOWN IF THERE IS EVEN ENOUGH CURB SPACE TO IMPLEMENT A RESIDENTIAL PARKING PROGRAM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SOME OF OUR STREETS ARE 14 FEET WIDE, LEAVING NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR PARKING AND DRIVING WITH THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL SPACE STANDARDS.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE RESIDENCES THAT BACK UP TO THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.

SOME OF THESE RESIDENCES ARE WITHIN FEET OF PROPOSED CHANGES.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE LIVING NEXT DOOR TO AN ANTICIPATED NEW BUSINESS, A BAR, OR RESTAURANT WITH MUSIC PLAYING TO 10 OR 11 EVERY EVENING? WHERE I LIVE, THERE ARE TIMES I CAN HEAR THE NO-NAME BAR BLASTING MUSIC INSIDE MY HOME AND THEY ARE A HALF A MILE AWAY.

I AM OPPOSED TO THIS ORDINANCE IN ITS ENTIRETY.

I CANNOT, IN GOOD CONSCIENCE, VOTE FOR ANY COMMISSIONER WHO SUPPORTS THIS CHANGE.

THERE HAS TO BE CONSIDERATION FOR THE RESIDENTS AT A MINIMUM TIME TO CONSIDER HOW THESE CHANGES AFFECT OUR EVERYDAY LIFE.

THE PARKING CODES HAVEN'T CHANGED SINCE THE 1980S.

THERE IS NO NEED TO RUSH.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS AT THE VERY LEAST, ENOUGH TIME TO CONDUCT RESEARCH AND SURVEYS TO CONSIDER HEALTHIER ALTERNATIVES THAT STILL ARRIVE AT THE SAME GOALS OF A HEALTHY, VIBRANT CITY WITH HEALTHY VIBRANT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS BEFORE ALLOWING UNCHECKED COMMERCIAL USES THAT OVER RUN OUR BUSY STREETS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS BIRCHFIELD, FOLLOWED BY STACY STRUMP.

>> COMMISSIONERS, MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REQUEST FOR INPUT FROM THE NEIGHBORS REGARDING THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE 2024-05.

AS YOU KNOW, PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN AND UPTOWN AREAS HAS BEEN CHALLENGING ISSUE FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE AS ST. AUGUSTINE HAS BECOME A DESTINATION AND AN EVENT CITY.

THIS ORDINANCE IS ULTIMATELY A REWARD TO THE BUSINESSES AT THE EXPENSE OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO HOMESTEAD IN OUR CITY.

THE MAIN CHALLENGE OF PARKING FOR US HAS BEEN DURING FIELD EVENTS AND POPULAR TRAVEL TIMES LIKE DECEMBER NIGHTS OF LIGHTS AND SPRING BREAK.

DURING THESE TIMES, OUR STREETS FILL UP WITH VISITOR CARS THAT DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR THE PARKING IN THE GARAGE AND DON'T WANT TO USE THE PROVIDED CITY SHUTTLES.

THIS ORDINANCE WILL ALLOW THE BUSINESSES THAT NOW PROVIDE PARKING, TO EXPAND THEIR FOOTPRINT AND ELIMINATE THE PRECIOUS PARKING THEY DO HAVE IN FAVOR OF MORE DENSITY AND MORE CAPACITY FOR EVEN MORE PEOPLE AT THEIR ESTABLISHMENTS.

IN TURN, THIS WILL FORCE EVEN MORE CARS INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, LOOKING FOR CONVENIENT NEARBY PARKING.

THIS WILL ALSO INCREASE THE PROPERTY VALUE FOR THE BUSINESSES, GIVING THEM MORE FLEXIBILITY, AND ALLOWING THEM TO TAKE ON MORE PATRONS WITH THE EXTRA SPACE.

CONVERSELY, THIS WILL DETERIORATE THE VALUE OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, AS IT WILL BE SEEN AS VERY LIMITING WAY TO LIVE, AS IT BECOMES MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT ON A DAILY BASIS TO PARK AT OUR HOMES.

AS FAR AS THE CURRENT SYSTEM FOR RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT, I DON'T FEEL THIS IS A GOOD SOLUTION.

I HAVE BECOME PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THAT SYSTEM AS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE LIVES ON ZARAGOZA, AND I HAVE SEEN HOW THAT LOOKS IN REAL LIFE FIRSTHAND.

THE PERMITS WHICH THE RESIDENTS PAY FOR EACH YEAR, ARE LIMITED TO TWO PERMANENT STICKERS AND TWO GUEST PERMITS.

THESE PERMITS DO NOT GUARANTEE A PARKING SPOT.

UNDER THIS ARRANGEMENT, I CAN'T HAVE A FAMILY GATHERING AT MY HOME WITHOUT PARKING PEOPLE ILLEGALLY.

VISITORS THAT PARK ON ZARAGOZA HAVE BEEN HEARD SAYING THEY DON'T CARE, THEY'LL TAKE THEIR CHANCES ON THE TICKET.

THE FINE FOR THE CITATION IS ONLY $35.

WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE GARAGE IS 20, THESE ARE BASICALLY VIP PARKING SPACES, AND IF THE VIOLATOR IS TICKETED, PAYING THE FINE IS VERY CONVENIENTLY DONE ON A MOBILE APP.

THIS IS A QUALITY-OF-LIFE ISSUE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THIS ORDINANCE GOES AGAINST HELPING US TO HAVE A LIVABLE CITY.

PLEASE USE COMMON SENSE.

DO NOT VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS ORDINANCE, AND IN CLOSING, THE CITY DOES NEED TO DO BETTER WITH PUBLIC OUTREACH.

MANY OF US ARE JUST FINDING OUT ABOUT THIS VERY RECENTLY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. STACY STRUMP FOLLOWED BY JUDY GLAZEBROOK.

>> HELLO, MY NAME IS STACY STRUMP AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING MYSELF AS A RESIDENT OF 68 WATER STREET, BUT ALSO REPRESENTING THE ST. AUGUSTINE UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

IN REGARDS TO, AGAIN, ORDINANCE 2024-05, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM A LOT OF US.

>> PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS.

>> I DID, 68 WATER STREET.

>> SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR.

>> I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE

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OPPOSED IN EVERY WAY IN THE INCLUSION OF SAN MARCO IN ORDINANCE 2024-05 REGARDING THE REMOVAL OF COMMERCIAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE THREE-QUARTERS OF A MILE STRETCH FROM RIPLEY'S TO DUNKIN' DONUTS, AND ALL OF THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE GOING TO COME WITH THAT.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CONSISTS OF TWO NATIONALLY REGISTERED HISTORIC DISTRICTS, NORTH CITY AND THE ABBOTT TRACT, AND WE ARE VERY CONNECTED, VERY COMMITTED, AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY.

I'M GOING TO SUBMIT TO YOU AN INFORMAL COPY TODAY OF OUR CURRENTLY CIRCULATING PETITION.

WE'VE HAD A 70% RESPONSE RATE FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ON THIS, IN SIGNING IT SO FAR, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO COLLECT SIGNATURES AND HOPE OF GAINING YOUR ATTENTION AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS MATTER.

I'LL HAND YOU THE PETITION SO YOU CAN READ THEM LATER, BUT JUST IN A NUTSHELL, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF THE SAME CONCERNS.

WE ARE A HISTORIC COMMUNITY BISECTED BY COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, SO WE UNDERSTAND GROWTH, GROWING PAINS IN A LIVING CITY ENVIRONMENT.

LIKE THEY SAID, WE TAKE THE FESTIVALS, WE TAKE THE PARADES, WE TAKE 4TH OF JULY, WE HAVE A LOT BEAUTIFUL EVENTS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFICULTIES THAT COME WITH THOSE EVENTS WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO VISIT TOWN AND PEOPLE THAT ARE CALLING TOWN THEIR HOME.

SOME OF OUR RESIDENCES ARE FOUR FEET FROM A COMMERCIAL SPACE.

IF THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE NO LONGER REQUIRED, THEY'RE GOING TO PROBABLY BECOME A PATIO.

PATIO BRINGS NOISE, PATIO BRINGS DENSITY, PATIO BRINGS A CHANGE TO THE LANDSCAPE IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T ADDRESS ANY SOLVING OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE CURRENTLY FACE FROM COMMERCIAL PARKING LOTS, WHICH WE HAVE POPPING UP IN OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD NOW.

THERE ARE TWO ON SHENANDOAH THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO NEIGHBORHOODS.

THERE'S A FOUR-FOOT CHAIN LINK FENCE AND 40 CARS PARKED IN A GRASS LOT.

SOMEHOW THAT HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED.

WE'VE SUBMITTED INFORMATION TO CODES ENFORCEMENT, HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM THEM.

WE CAN'T GET CLARITY ON WHAT A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT EVEN IS OR HOW IT'S GOING TO END UP THERE, WHEN WE NOW HAVE CARS WITH DOORS SLAMMING AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING, AND IT'S LITERALLY FROM ME TO YOU.

WE NEED TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES BEFORE PROPOSING INJECTING STEROIDS INTO THIS COMMERCIAL DISTRICT THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

SAN MARCO IS A THOROUGHFARE.

THE THOUGHT THAT INCREASING COMMERCIAL DENSITY IS GOING TO REDUCE THIS ISSUE OF PARKING IS AT BEST WISHFUL THINKING AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THINGS LIKE SAFETY LOADING ZONES, WE DON'T HAVE LOADING ZONES NOW.

THE SEMI TRUCKS PARK ON THE SIDEWALKS TO SERVICE THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE SMALL.

MUCH LESS, MUCH HIGHER DENSITY ISSUED BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO WANT MORE SPACE.

WE'RE HERE LOOKING FOR HOPEFUL SOLUTIONS TO SAY THAT WE'RE HERE, WE'RE LISTENING, AND WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> BUT I'LL SUBMIT THESE PAPERS.

>> PERFECT. YOU CAN GIVE THOSE TO THE CLERK.

TO MS. GALAMBOS OVER HERE.

JUDY GLAZEBROOK, FOLLOWED BY NANCY NOLAPOTH.

>> JUDY GLAZEBROOK, 30 ROHDE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY BE A DELAY ON THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE, 2024-5, AND THAT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

BUT I FEAR THAT JUST POSTPONING THIS DOESN'T GET TO THE HEART OF THE PROBLEM.

WHAT I MEAN IS THAT IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT THERE ARE MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH THIS ORDINANCE, IT'S THE BIG PICTURE AND THE STRATEGY AND THE RATIONALE THAT'S ALARMING.

WHERE IN THE WORLD IS IT DEEMED GOOD PLANNING POLICY TO INCREASE DENSITY AND CRITICAL MASS TO SOLVE ANY CITY'S MOBILITY ISSUE? FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'M ASKING THAT BEFORE ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS ORDINANCE IS TAKEN, YOU, OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, ADDRESS THE VERY TROUBLING REASONING AND LOGIC BEHIND THIS.

IT'S OBVIOUS THAT EVEN UPON A SECOND READING, ANY SUGGESTED CHANGES, ACCOMMODATIONS LIKE RESIDENTIAL PARKING, OR EVEN MAJOR REVISIONS TO THE ORDINANCE IN THE END, WOULD NOT RECTIFY THE OVERALL FOUNDATIONAL PROBLEMS. THE DIRECTION IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS HEADED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION WITH THIS TYPE OF PLANNING.

I'M ALSO REQUESTING THAT RESIDENTS BE INFORMED AND HAVE TIME TO DIGEST THE SCOPE AND IMPACT OF NOT ONLY THIS ORDINANCE, BUT ALSO THE DIRECTION AND LOGIC BEHIND THIS PLANNING PROCESS.

IN THE END, I'M ASKING FOR NOT ONLY THE REJECTION OF THIS ORDINANCE, BUT ALSO THE REJECTION OF THE PHILOSOPHY BEHIND DRAFTING THIS ORDINANCE.

TO BE SPECIFIC, THE STRATEGY PRESENTED BY MS. SKINNER AT THE MARCH 11TH MEETING, SPECIFIES THE NEED TO CREATE CRITICAL MASS IN ORDER TO SOLVE THE CITY'S MOBILITY PROBLEM.

MY INTERPRETATION IS THAT IN ORDER TO ENHANCE MOBILITY, THE CITY NEEDS TO MOVE TOWARDS ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION, LIKE SATELLITE PARKING, SHUTTLES, ETC.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS SENSIBLE GOAL.

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THE PROBLEM COMES WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S INTERPRETATION AND APPROACH AND THE STEPS OUTLINED BY MS. SKINNER ARE NOT THE ANSWER.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS, FAR BETTER THAN THE DIRECTION OF THIS ORDINANCE.

TO BE SPECIFIC, MS. SKINNER LAID OUT THE FOLLOWING REASONING BEHIND THE ORDINANCE.

IT INCLUDES FORCING THE ISSUE, HER WORDS, "BY ELIMINATING PARKING RESTRICTIONS ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, WHICH WILL THEN ENCOURAGE AND ALLOW MORE DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS FOR THE HIGHEST POTENTIAL USE OF PROPERTY".

IN OTHER WORDS, THIS CRITICAL MASS APPROACH, ST. AUGUSTINE WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS.

THE BASIC REASONING IS SO FLAWED AND QUESTIONABLE, AND THE RESULTING FALLOUT WILL BE IRREVOCABLE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NANCY NOLAPOTH, FOLLOWED BY JEFFREY PEPPER.

WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU. I'M NANCY NALABOFF AT 25 LOCUST STREET IN THE ABBOTT TRACT.

I VERY RECENTLY JUST LEARNED ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE 245 THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THIS PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES.

I WANT TO THANK THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE ACTUALLY ALREADY RESPONDED TO MY EMAILS AND MY ALARM WHEN I LEARNED ABOUT THIS.

ALSO, THANK YOU FOR DELAYING SECOND READING.

I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER THAT A SHORT DELAY IS NOT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT THIS WOULD BRING UP.

I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT MS. SKINNER'S MARCH MEETING OR CRITICAL MASS OBJECTIVE, SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

BUT GIVEN THAT PARKING HAS BEEN SUCH A HUGE PROBLEM FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, WHY WOULD YOU CONSIDER REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT FROM THE BUSINESSES THAT DRAW THE TOURISTS THAT CAN'T FIND PARKING? THIS WOULD RESULT IN EVEN MORE PEOPLE SCOURING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS LOOKING FOR PARKING.

OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED THE NARROWNESS OF THE STREETS AND THE INABILITY TO HAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE, SO THOSE ARE ALL PROBLEMS THAT I THINK NEED TO BE ACTED UPON AND WORKED OUT BEFORE ANYTHING GOES FURTHER.

SOME OF YOU AROUND THE COMMISSION, DURING THE YEARS, WE SPENT WRESTLING WITH THE MYRIAD PROBLEMS THAT TOURISM AND VACATION RENTALS HAVE PRESENTED TO OUR CITY.

THE HUGE AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT WENT INTO ADAPTING THE ZONING CODES TO DEAL WITH THESE PROBLEMS. PARKING WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE PROBLEMS. BUT THEN THE STATE STEPPED IN AND BASICALLY STARTED DECIMATING LOCAL CONTROL ACROSS THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA.

OUR COUNTY SEE ST. AUGUSTINE AS A CASH COW FOR TAX REVENUE FROM THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX.

WHY ARE WE STILL ADVERTISING FOR TOURISTS? BUT I REALIZE THAT THE CITY CAN'T CONTROL THE STATE AND YOU CAN'T CONTROL THE COUNTY, BUT YOU CAN PRIORITIZE THE WELFARE OF THE CITIZENS OF THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE WHO CALL ST. AUGUSTINE HOME.

I HOPE FOR UPCOMING, MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE IN THE MOST AFFECTED NEIGHBORHOODS BEFORE THIS DIE IS CAST.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[APPLAUSE] PLEASE HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE.

THANK YOU. JEFFREY PEPPER, FOLLOWED BY PAUL HAMEL.

>> JEFFREY PEPPER. I LIVE AT 60 OSCEOLA STREET IN THE ABBOTT TRACT.

I CAME HERE EIGHT YEARS AGO AND HAD NO PROBLEM DRIVING ANYWHERE IN TOWN.

NOW, THEY ARE ABOUT 2 AND 1/2 MONTHS OF THE YEAR THAT I DON'T DRIVE.

I LIVE THREE BLOCKS FROM DOWNTOWN.

WHY DO I NOT DRIVE? BECAUSE IF I GET OUT THERE, IT'S A HALF AN HOUR TO THE GROCERY STORE, MAYBE 45 MINUTES TO THE GROCERY STORE.

I DON'T DARE GO OVER THE BRIDGE.

IF [INAUDIBLE] NIGHTS A LIGHT, DON'T GO OVER THE BRIDGE, SO I DON'T GO SOUTH ANYMORE.

THE RESIDENTS ARE BASICALLY BEING CUT OFF.

NOW, THE ISSUE HERE IS WHAT IS SMART PLANNING AND SO FORTH, WHEN THE CASTILLO HOTEL WENT IN,

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THE TRAFFIC IN OUR AREA BACKED UP IMMENSELY.

ONE HOTEL COMES IN, THEY FILL UP THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET, THEY FILL UP THEIR OWN PARKING LOT, PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND SO FORTH, AND THAT HAD A MAJOR IMPACT.

WHAT IF THERE WAS ANOTHER HOTEL FIVE BLOCKS UP, LET'S SAY THE CHURCH DECIDED TO SELL OFF SOME OF THEIR LAND, WHICH WAS I THINK PLANNED EARLIER, PUT A HOTEL IN THERE? WE'D BE STUCK.

WE HAD AN INCIDENT THIS WEEK WITH A CHILD NEXT DOOR TO US RENTING THE HOUSE FOR THREE DAYS, AND THE CHILD HAD AN EPILEPTIC FIT.

OSCEOLA STREET IS A VERY NARROW STREET.

FORTUNATELY, THIS IS THE SECOND HOUSE IN THE FIRE TRUCK CANNOT GO ON OSCEOLA STREET BECAUSE IF ANYBODY IS PARKED ON THAT STREET, THEY HAVE TO BACK OUT.

IF THERE WERE ANY MORE PEOPLE PARKED THERE, IF THEY WERE FORTUNATE, BECAUSE MY PERSONAL DRIVEWAY ALLOWS FOR THEM TO PARK THERE IN FRONT OF IT IF THEY NEED TO, AND THAT'S A YELLOW ZONE, THEY PARKED ACROSS THE STREET SO THAT OTHER POLICE CARS COULD PARK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND SO FORTH.

BUT IF IT WAS DOWN THE STREET, AND THIS KID WAS AIRLIFTED AS I UNDERSTAND IT, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S TRUE, BUT IF THIS KID HAD A SLIGHTLY MORE SEVERE PROBLEM AND IT WAS TWO HOUSES DOWN AND THE FIRE TRUCK COULDN'T GET THERE, WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED? WOULD THE KID HAVE DIED? THE PARKING SITUATION THERE IS SUCH THAT, WE HAVEN'T ALLUDED TO THIS BEFORE, BUT BASICALLY IT IS VERY NEAR MAX RIGHT NOW.

ANY DECISION ABOUT ANY BUSINESS HAS TO BE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY BY THE TOWN, AND IF THEY DON'T, AND WE END UP WITH ANOTHER HOTEL LIKE THAT THERE, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO END UP DYING BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HEART ATTACK AND THEY CAN'T GET TO A HOSPITAL HERE.

THERE ARE NO FLYING HELICOPTERS INTO OUR PARKING AREA.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT SPEAKER IS PAUL HAMEL.

PLEASE, NO CLAPPING.

THANK YOU. PAUL HAMEL, FOLLOWED BY JEFF FOX.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

MY NAME IS PAUL HAMEL.

I LIVE AT 410 PESCADO DRIVE.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE MADEIRA SUBDIVISION.

AT THE LAST MEETING ON MARCH 25TH THE COMMISSIONER'S REGARDING THE MADEIRA SUBDIVISION, A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORS HAD QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY WHICH HOPE CAN BE ANSWERED WITH YOUR HELP.

I'LL USE THE MEMORANDUM THAT WAS USED, DATED MARCH 14TH, IS KIND OF A REFERENCE TO WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE.

THIS MAP IS FROM PAGE 5 OF THAT MEMORANDUM.

IN THE MEMORANDUM ON PAGE 2 MENTIONS 583 ACRES OF WETLANDS, APPROXIMATELY 454 ACRES OF MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT IN PINK, AND THEN LOOKING AT THE MAP ON PAGE 7 OF THE SAME ROUGH AREA, THIS IS MADEIRA HERE.

HERE, AGAIN, IS THE TOLOMATO IN THE WETLANDS, THERE'S ABOUT 117 ACRES HERE THAT BELONGS TO PONCE ASSOCIATES, THE REST IS MENTIONED AS STATE OF FLORIDA, WHEREAS IN THE OTHER MAP, THERE'S 583 ACRES THAT'S MENTIONED AS PART OF MADEIRA.

THERE'S A 460-ODD ACRE DIFFERENCE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

MAYBE IT'S KURTZ ISLAND, BUT KURTZ ISLAND IS BEYOND FORT MOSE, BEYOND CAMACHEE ISLAND, AND CLOSER TO THE VILANO BRIDGE.

A CLARIFICATION WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND I HOPE THAT THAT WAS JUST AN OVERSIGHT ON SOMEBODY'S PART.

BUT ANYWAYS, THAT'S ONE THING.

THE SECOND ONE IS IN THE MEMO ON THE 14TH THAT WAS AT THAT MEETING, IT MENTIONS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS NO LONGER INTERESTED IN SELLING THE 30 ACRES THAT'S OF CONCERN TO US, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE INTO A PARK IN COOPERATION WITH THE COUNTY.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S BEEN EXPLAINED AS WHY, AND AN EXPLANATION FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

FINALLY, THE MEMORANDUM ALSO MENTIONS A DOCUMENT FROM 2004.

THAT DOCUMENT SAYS 18 ADDITIONAL SHOVEL TESTS AND SEVEN EXCAVATION UNITS AT FAS SITE 4 REVEALED A VERY DENSE HISTORIC DEPOSIT.

THE SITE LIKELY REPRESENTS THE SECOND SPANISH PERIOD LOG FRAME RESIDENCE OF FREE BLACK COUPLE, LUIS AND DIANE SANCHEZ.

DO WE REALLY WANT TO WIPE OUT THAT PART OF

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OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE WHEN THE CITY IS BIDDING TO HOST THE FLORIDA MUSEUM OF BLACK HISTORY WITHOUT AT LEAST CONDUCTING A MORE COMPREHENSIVE SURVEY THAN SOME SHOVEL TESTS FROM 20 YEARS AGO? THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT'S MORE RECENTLY BEEN MADE BY MARSHA CHANCE.

IF ANY OF THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED, I'LL EMAIL EVERYONE.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AGAIN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE, NO CLAPPING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JEFF FOX, FOLLOWED BY WILLIAM PAYNE JR.

>> GREETINGS.

AT THE RISK OF BEING REDUNDANT, I WANT TO OFFER YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO GOOD.

PSALM 37:20 IN THE BIBLE SAYS SIMPLY DO GOOD.

THAT'S AN EVERYDAY SAYING OF MINE AS I GO ABOUT MY DAY.

WHOM CAN I HELP TODAY? LIKEWISE, AS INDIVIDUALS AND COLLECTIVELY AS A CITY COMMISSION, I CAN ENVISION EACH OF YOU AS YOU START YOUR DAY SAYING TO YOURSELVES, HOW CAN I DO GOOD AND WHOM CAN I HELP TODAY? THERE ARE AT LEAST 202 TREES IN THE MEDIA COASTAL FOREST THAT HAVE A DIAMETER GREATER THAN 20 INCHES AT CHEST TIE.

EACH ONE OF THESE YELLOW MARKS SIGNIFIES AT LEAST ONE, IF NOT MORE THAN ONE TREE.

AS A TRUSTEE FOR THE FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND I KNOW HOW STRINGENT THE CITY IS WHEN IT COMES TO CUTTING TREES.

WE NEEDED TO PRUNE OUR TREES IN OUR PARKING LOT AND WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH THE POWERS THAT BE WHO DEFINED THAT WHAT WE COULD DO AND NOT DO AS FAR AS TRIMMING THE TREES? THEY WERE VERY STRICT IN WHAT WE COULD AND COULD NOT DO.

TREE ORDINANCE EXIST IN YOUR CITY TO PROTECT THE GREATER GOOD, ON BEHALF OF ITS CITIZENS AND TO PROTECT THE TREES.

THE 202 TREES IN THE MADEIRA FORESTS NEED YOUR PROTECTION TOO.

THE LARGEST OF THESE TREES ARE PROBABLY 100 YEARS OLD, GIVE OR TAKE, A FEW.

EACH TREE REGISTERED THERE ON YOUR MAP HAVE A LATITUDE, LONGITUDE PRECISE LOCATION DONE WITH AN IPHONE AND GPS. THEY ARE THERE.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? THERE'S AN OLD CHARLES WESLEY HYMN IN THE UNITED METHODIST HYMNAL CALLED A CHARGE TO KEEP [INAUDIBLE] IT SPEAKS OF A NEED TO STRENGTHEN ONESELF INTERNALLY TO MAINTAIN THE CORRECT COURSE OF CHOICES ONE MAKES IN THEIR LIVES TO REFLECT GLORY TO THE ALMIGHTY.

SIMILARLY, YOU TOOK A VOW TO UPHOLD THE RULES, REGULATIONS, AND LAWS OF THIS CITY WHEN YOU WERE SEATED AS COMMISSIONER.

ALL WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO IS FOLLOW YOUR OWN RULES.

AND DO NOT ALLOW THE DESTRUCTION OF THESE MAGNIFICENT TREES AND FORESTS.

DEVELOP THE LAND MAYBE.

BUT DO SO CREATIVELY BY ADJUSTING THE ROADS AND LOT LINES TO PRESERVE AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE.

SURELY PONCE ASSOCIATES HAS IT WITHIN THEIR CAPACITY TO DO SO.

THERE WANT TO MAY MUCH LESS SO.

THE LAWS AND REGULATIONS EXIST FOR A REASON.

YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE CITY STATES THAT YOU WILL ABIDE BY THOSE RULES AND REGULATIONS.

DO YOU HAVE THE INTERNAL STRENGTH NECESSARY TO CARVE OUT A BETTER FUTURE FOR THE MADEIRA COASTAL FOREST? MAY YOUR LEGACY REFLECT THAT YOU DID JUST THAT BY ENFORCING THE PROTECTIONS IN EXISTENCE AND PROTECT THE TREES IN THE MADEIRA COASTAL FOREST. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WILLIAM PAYNE, FOLLOWED BY VICKI PAYNE.

>> WILLIAM PAYNE, 3904 PISCATO DRIVE.

I'M HERE TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO FOLLOW THE RULES SPECIFIED IN THE 2016 MADEIRA PUD ESPECIALLY RELATED TO PROTECTING LARGE TREES, TREE HAMMOCKS AND OTHER TREES THAT FALL UNDER THE PROTECTION OF THE CITY TREE ORDINANCES, THE FOREST AREAS KNOWN AS PHASE 3.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE TREE HAMMOCKS THAT YOU CAN FIND WITHIN THAT FOREST.

AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, A MADEIRA COASTAL CONSERVATION VALUE REPORT WAS PRESENTED.

DOCTOR CASTLER IS ON SITE REVIEW, SURVEYED THE MADEIRA AREA AND SOME LAND TO THE NORTH, A TOTAL OF 59 ACRES.

THAT WAS HIS SUPPORT OF THE FLORIDA ARC SUBMISSION.

SHE IDENTIFIED 15 ACRES NORTH OF MADEIRA'S CURRENT RESIDENTIAL.

THE REMAINING 44 ACRES WERE IDENTIFIED AS 37 ACRES OF COASTAL HAMMOCK AND SIX ACRES OF WETLAND.

THIS MEANS THAT ALL 30 ACRES WITHIN THIS MADEIRA PHASE 3 AREA HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS HAMMOCK WETLANDS OR BOTH.

THESE COASTAL HAMMOCKS ARE PREDOMINANTLY SAND LIVE OAKS AND LAUREL OAKS.

GIVEN THE TIME CONSTRAINTS HERE, I REFER YOU TO READ THE REPORT THAT WAS SUBMITTED THE LAST TIME AROUND.

IN 2016, CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE REINSTATED THE 2004 PUD,

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23 YEARS OLD ALREADY, AND ENACTED A FUTURE STATE REVIEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THIS PLAN CITES APPROVAL FOR PHASE 1 OF MADEIRA, BUT STATES THAT THE REST OF THE PROPERTY SHALL REMAIN UNDEVELOPED. WHAT HAPPENED? WAS THIS AN OVERSIGHT OR AN INTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF PROTECTING THE FOREST? HAS THERE BEEN AN UPDATE TO THE PUD? I DON'T THINK SO OR THE PLAN.

IF NOT, WHY ARE WE DEVELOPING THIS FOREST? ADDITIONALLY, OVER 200 TREES YOU JUST SAW WERE RECORDED WITHIN PHASE 3 AREA PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPER GAINING THE INTEREST TO KEEP US OUT FROM LOOKING AT THESE TREES FURTHER, AND PUTTING FOUR, NO LESS THAN FOUR, NO TRESPASSING SIGNS THERE.

THAT'S NOT A SIGN OF ME TO THE DEVELOPER WANTING TO OPERATE.

CLEARLY, IF THE DEVELOPER HAD AN ARBOR ON BOARD AS REQUIRED BY THE PUD THESE TREES WOULD HAVE BEEN MARKED, WOULD HAVE BEEN KNOWN, AND A MAP SUBMITTED TO THE CITY, PARTICULARLY ONE THAT'S LESS THAN 20 YEARS OLD, THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER MUST STRICTLY ADHERE TO THE TERMS OF THE PUD AND OTHER RELATED CITY ORDINANCES.

DON'T TAKE SHORTCUTS IN GRANTING APPROVALS BECAUSE IT'S EASIER SAVING THESE TREES ARE HARD WORK, BUT IT TOOK THE TREES OVER 100 YEARS TO GROW. THEY'RE WORTH THE WORK.

CURRENTLY, IT'S ONLY WEEKS BEFORE THE DEVELOPERS WILL BE SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL TO CUT ROADS INTO THIS UNIQUE FOREST.

DO NOT APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT.

IT HAS NOT FOLLOWED THE PUD TO DATE.

IT HAS NOT AVOIDED THE TREES IN THE PROPOSED ROAD LOCATIONS AS REQUIRED BY THE PUD.

WHEN THE TREES ARE IDENTIFIED, SOLUTIONS CAN BE FOUND IF NECESSARY, SUCH AS TREE ISLANDS OR MOVING ROAD LOCATIONS.

IF THE CITY IS SERIOUS ABOUT PROTECTING TREES, AND WE BELIEVE YOU ARE DO THE HARD JOB REQUIRED BY THE PUD.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> VICKI PAYNE, FOLLOWED BY ARTHUR CULBERT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, VICKI PAYNE 394 PISCATA DRIVE IN MADEIRA.

LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE ABOUT THIS.

THIS ENDEAVOR STARTED OVER A YEAR AGO WHEN I PERSONALLY WITNESSED A PINE TREE WITH AN EAGLE'S NEST BEING TAKEN DOWN WHILE THE EAGLE WAS UP THERE TRYING TO FINISH HER NEST.

I REPORTED IT TO THE FWC AS WELL AS THE CDD, WHICH IS, BY THE WAY, HEADED BY THE DEVELOPER WITH FEW RESULTS.

FURTHERMORE, OTHER SIGNIFICANT OAKS WERE ALREADY TAGGED FOR REMOVAL NEXT TO THIS TREE.

AFTER SEVERAL PHONE CALLS, THOSE TREES WERE SPARED AND I WAS TOLD IT WAS ALL A BIG MISTAKE.

AFTER SEEING THE DESTRUCTION OF THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT, I FELT I HAD TO TRY TO SAVE MORE OF WHAT WAS LEFT.

THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF A FOREST IT'S TEAMING WITH ENDANGERED AND MIGRATORY BIRDS, THE MAGNIFICENT TREES IN A FOREST UNEQUALED IN THIS AREA.

WITH OVER 67% OF THE MADEIRA COMMUNITY SIGNING A PETITION TO SAVE THE SPOON BILLS GROUP WAS FOUND.

OUR ENTIRE PURPOSE IS TO SAVE AS MUCH OF THESE 30 ACRES OF LAND BETWEEN THE TOLOMATO RIVER AND THE LARGE POND OF PESCADO, TESORO AND PANTANO DRIVES.

WE WORKED WITH NFLT FOR A YEAR, FAIRLY SUCCESSFUL, UNTIL PONCE ASSOCIATES WITHDREW THEIR PROPERTY IN JANUARY, ONE WEEK BEFORE SUBMISSION TO THE STATE.

OUR ONLY ALTERNATIVE WE, AS RESIDENTS HAVE IS TO WORK WITH YOU, THE CITY, TO FIND AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE AS MUCH OF THE ACREAGE AS POSSIBLE.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMUNITY DEFINITELY WANTS TO HAVE HAPPEN, AS IS EVIDENCED BY THE PETITION AND THE SUPPORT FOR OVER A YEAR.

WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT OUR GOALS ARE POSSIBLE, GIVEN THE CITY'S REPUTATION FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION, BASED ON THE CITY TREE ORDINANCES, WHICH EXIST FOR ALL OF ITS RESIDENTS, AND MUST BE FOLLOWED BY ANYONE WISHING TO BUILD ANYTHING IN THE CITY.

WE BELIEVE THAT THROUGH THE PUD ORDINANCES, WHICH HAVE ALREADY BOTH BEEN AGREED TO BY THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER, THE AMAZING TREES, CANOPIES, AND GROVES CAN BE SAVED BY FULLY AND FORCING THE POLICIES INCLUDING MANDATING BUFFERS AND STEMWALL CONSTRUCTION TO PROTECT ALL OF THESE SPECIMEN TREES, BOTH PUD AND CITY TREE ORDINANCES ALREADY IN PLACE NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS.

PLEASE DON'T ALLOW THIS DEVELOPER TO PREP THE LOTS FOR A FOUR BUILDING.

THE PUD SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT THE BUILDERS MUST PREP THE LOTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY TREE ORDINANCES REVIEW FOR EACH LOT, AS WELL AS A DETAILED TREE SURVEY AND LOT BY LOT FOR ANY TREE THREE INCHES DBH OR BIGGER.

THIS UNIQUE RARE COASTAL FOREST, AS RECOGNIZED BY THE DOI, THE SIERRA CLUB, AND MANY OTHER PRESERVATION GROUPS, NEEDS THE POWER OF THIS CITY TO ENFORCE ALL OF ITS RULES AS DETAILED EXPLICITLY IN THE PUDS.

WE INVITE YOU TO COME ANYTIME TO VIEW THIS FOREST, PROVIDING THE DEVELOPER UNLOADS THE GATES.

WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING YOU COPIES OF THE PUDS WHICH WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOU TO READ AND SEE WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS ARTHUR CULBERT, FOLLOWED BY BJ KALADY. ARTHUR.

>> ARTHUR LEFT.

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>> ARTHUR IS NOT HERE. BJ KALADY.

WELCOME.

>> BJ CLAY WEST CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE C(A)8.

WHERE WERE THE CHILLER LINES FOR FLAGLER COLLEGE LOCATED IN THE PAST? QUESTION, IS THE AGREEMENT FOR ONE YEAR? IT'S INTERESTING ONE'S PIRACY COMMENT AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT THE INCREASE IN COST OF TOURS FAILED TO BRING UP THE INCREASE IN RENTS, PARKING, FOOD, GAS, ETC, 8(A)(1) ORDINANCE 2024/06 TAKES EFFECT IN MAY 2024.

QUESTION, WHICH LAWYERS HAVE BEEN SELECTED? QUESTION, WHAT WILL TAXPAYERS IN THE CITY PAY THE LAWYERS? AT THE MARCH 11, 2024 CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE MEETING CALLED COORDINATION. I'M WASTING MY TIME.

YEAH.

THEY'RE TICKING AWAY.

AT THE MARCH 11, 2024 COSA MEETING, THE CUTTING OF TREES AT OYSTER CREEK PARK BY HOMELESS WAS BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

THIS PHOTO SHOWS THE CUTTING OF BLACK MANGROVE, THE COLORED ONE.

LET'S GET TO THE COLORED. THERE YOU GO. OYSTER CREEK FOLKS.

THIS PHOTO SHOWS THE CUTTING OF BLACK MANGROVE AND MARSH ELDER FOR PATH TO OYSTER CREEK.

ALLOWING LEWIS BOULEVARD AND US 1 SOUTH TO BECOME A CAMPGROUND FOR THE HOMELESS DOES NOT PROMOTE THE HEALTH, SAFETY, OR WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC.

AGENDA 9.

IT APPEARS THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE IS ANNEXING WEST KING STREET, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME PARKING PROBLEMS TOO, NONPROFITS TO CREATE CRA FOR BUILDING A GARAGE AT US 1 IN KING STREET, SO THEY'RE ANNEXING THAT, IN MY OPINION.

ON MARCH 3, 2024, AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY WAS ATTACKED WHILE CLEANING CORDOVA STREET AT NIGHT.

QUESTION, HAS THERE BEEN ARREST? ACCORDING TO THE POLICE REPORT, THERE ARE VIDEOS OF THE BEATING.

QUESTION, REMEMBER THE DUI AT THE FORT? WHAT ABOUT ALTHEA STREET? WHAT HAPPENED OVER THERE? THE POLICE WALK CITY EMPLOYEES AND THE POLITICIANS TO THEIR VEHICLES.

ST. AUGUSTINE IS NOT A SAFE CITY.

MY QUESTION AT THE VERY END, THE LOVE OF MONEY IS WHAT? I WILL REPEAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

PLEASE EVERYONE LISTEN TO 90.5 FM, ONE'S HOPELESS LIFE CAN CHANGE.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT CAME IN HERE TODAY ABOUT THEIR AREA AND THE PARKING SITUATION.

YOU MADE VERY GOOD COMMENTS, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS OVER IN WEST AUGUSTINE, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE NO COMMERCIAL HAVE TO GET THERE PARKING.

>> THANK YOU. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 8(A)5, THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[5. CONSENT AGENDA]

SORRY, THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.

CONSENT AGENDA. I DON'T KNOW I ALWAYS MISSED THAT, MR. CITY MANAGER.

>> TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA INCLUDES THE REMINDER OF UPCOMING MEETINGS.

APRIL 22 AT 4:00 P.M. COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING.

APRIL 22 AT 5:00 P.M. A REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

MAY 13TH AT 4:30 P.M PRESENTATION OF THE 2024 ADELAIDE SANCHEZ AWARD.

MAY 13, 5:00 P.M. THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM PRIOR COMMISSION MEETINGS.

THE MEETING OF FEBRUARY 26, 2024 AND THE MEETING OF MARCH 11TH, 2024.

THOSE ARE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS.

WE HAVE APPROVAL OF A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND FLAGLER COLLEGE.

WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION BY THE ST. AUGUSTINE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE EDWARD MEMORIAL JUSTICE GRANT PROGRAM FOR THE PURCHASE OF NEW EQUIPMENT.

THAT COMPLETES THE CONSENT AGENDA OF THIS EVENING.

>> THANK YOU. ANY MODIFICATIONS, CORRECTIONS?

>> YES, MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT YOU PULL ITEM C(A)8, THE APPROVAL OF THE LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND FLAGLER COLLEGE FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITHOUT ITEM C(A)8?

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>> MOVED.

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> LET'S HEAR ITEM C(A)8.

[CA.8. Approval of License Agreement between the City and Flagler College, Inc. (I. Lopez, City Attorney)]

>> ITEM C(A)8 IS A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND FLAGLER COLLEGE.

THEY ARE PLACING CHILLER LINES FOR THEIR AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM UNDER SOME OF OUR RIGHT OF WAY, AND THE LICENSE AGREEMENT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT, MEMORIALIZES THAT AND PLACES THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE CHILLER LINES ONTO FLAGLER COLLEGE.

>> MADAM MAYOR, I BELIEVE I SHOULD RECUSE MYSELF AS I AM AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COLLEGE.

>> THAT'S APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU.

I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WILL HAVE A FORM FOR YOU TO FILL OUT.

YES. WE DO A LOT OF FORMS FOR THE STATE, ANYTHING TO DO WITH THESE THINGS, SO DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FURTHER? DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM C(A)8 AND THE LICENSE FOR USE OF CITY OF RIGHT AWAY?

>> I MOVE WE APPROVE C(A)8 WITH THE LICENSING AGREEMENT WITH FLAGLER COLLEGE.

>> SECOND.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> THANK YOU. MR. BLONDER. SHE'LL BE BACK.

WE WERE VERY EFFECTIVE AND QUICK ON THAT ONE, THAT WE APPRECIATE HER RECUSAL.

WE HAVE NO APPEALS, WE HAVE NO GENERAL PRESENTATIONS.

>> WE'LL HAVE TO APPROVE THE REST OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> WE DID THAT FIRST.

>> YOU DID?

>> WE DID THAT FIRST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HOP.

I APPRECIATE IT KEEPING US ON TRACK.

WE HAVE NO GENERAL PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS.

[8.A.1. Ordinance 2024-06: Sunsets the Code Enforcement, Adjustment and Appeals Board and establishes the Nuisance, Appeals and Adjustment Board. (I. Lopez, City Attorney)]

WE DO HAVE TWO SECOND READINGS AND WE HAVE ORD 8(A)1, ORDINANCE 2024-06 AND THAT IS A CITY ATTORNEY ISSUE.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO PRESENT.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, WOULD YOU PULL YOUR MICROPHONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COMMISSIONERS AGAIN.

THIS ORDINANCE DOES SENSE THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS BOARD AND ESTABLISHES THE NUISANCE APPEALS AND ADJUSTMENT BOARD.

THEN THE ORDINANCE DO YOU WANT TO GO INTO THE NEXT ONE TOO?

>> YES, THEY'RE TANDEM.

>> THEN ORDINANCE 2024-07 EDITS AND BRINGS INTO CONFORMITY REFERENCES TO THE NUISANCE ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS BOARD AND SPECIAL MAGISTRATE THROUGH THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS A SECOND READING.

WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON EACH OF THESE ORDINANCES, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN FOR ORDINANCE 2024-06.

ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS HERE? HEARING NONE.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

ANY COMMENTS? WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. YOU HAVE SOMETHING?

>> WOULD YOU HAVE A MODIFICATION TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE? THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO PRODUCE THE MINUTES OF THE LAST CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD MEETING. IF YOU'LL INDULGE US.

>> I JUST REQUEST THAT INSTEAD OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE BEING 10 DAYS, IT BE 20.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE CAN MAKE THAT AMENDMENT INTO OUR MOTION.

>> I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

I THOUGHT THAT CAME UP A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WHERE THERE WAS A WINDOW WHERE WE HAD TO DO IT PRETTY QUICKLY.

SOMETHING TO DO ABOUT COURT OR SUITS OR NOTHING.

>> NO. WE CAN MAKE THE EFFECTIVE DATE ANYTIME YOU WISH UNLESS IT'S GOVERNED BY STATE STATUTE.

>> THAT SOUNDS FINE.

>> IT JUST GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM TO CLEAN EVERYTHING UP.

>> THAT IS AN ORDINANCE 2024-06.

>> FOR BOTH.

>> I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS ORDINANCE 2024-06 MODIFIED TO MAKE THE.

>> APRIL 28TH WOULD BE THE EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> APRIL 28TH, THE EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO MOVED?

>> SECOND.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> I HAVE TO READ THE TITLE?

>> SHE HAS TO READ THE TITLE.

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>> YES.

>> SORRY. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-06 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA AMENDING CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE 5, DIVISION 2 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, AMENDING SECTIONS 2-211, 2-212, 2-13 AND 2-16, NAMING THE NUISANCE APPEALS AND ADJUSTMENT BOARD, PROVIDING FOR ORGANIZATION AND POWERS, REPEALING SECTIONS 2-214 AND 2-15 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> NOW, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> ROXANNE HORVATH?

>> YES.

>> JIM SPRINGFIELD?

>> YES.

>> CYNTHIA GARRIS?

>> YES.

>> BARBARA BLONDER?

>> YES.

>> NANCY SIKES-KLINE?

>> YES.

>> LET'S MOVE ON TO ORDINANCE 2024-07.

[8.A.2. Ordinance 2024-07: Edits and brings into conformity references to the Nuisance, Adjustments and Appeals Board and Special Magistrate throughout the municipal code. (I. Lopez, City Attorney)]

>> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-07 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

>> NO, THIS IS AN EXPLANATION. DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER.

>> IS THE EFFECTIVE DATE GOING TO CHANGE ON THIS TOO?

>> YES.

>> YES. THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT WE WOULD MAKE THAT.

BASICALLY, THIS BRINGS INTO CONFORMITY FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT.

WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT THIS ORDINANCE AFFECTS AND BRINGS INTO CONFORMITY REFERENCES TO THE NUISANCE ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEAL BOARD AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE THROUGHOUT THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

THE SUGGESTION IS THAT WE MODIFY THE EFFECTIVE DATE TO BE APRIL 28TH, 2024.

>> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND.

>> NOW WE DO NEED A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN AS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK.

SEEING NO ONE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED, LET'S-.

>> MOVED AGAIN.

>> SECOND IT AGAIN.

>> MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> NOW YOU HAVE TO READ IT.

>> IT'S JUST LIKE WHO'S ON FIRST, TONIGHT I'M JUST NOT ON THE BALL.

>> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-07 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF ST. AUGUSTINE FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, AMENDING SECTION 3-23, 8-3, 8-4, 8-5, 8-446, 8-447, 8-448, 8-452, 8-453, 19-2, 19-5, 22-3, 25-56, 25-57, 28-35, 28-90, 28-347, AND 29-43 TO CONFORM TO THE SUNSETTING OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS BOARD, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> NOW, I THINK WE HAVE IT ALL DONE, MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> ROXANNE HORVATH?

>> YES.

>> JIM SPRINGFIELD?

>> YES.

>> CYNTHIA GARRIS?

>> YES.

>> BARBARA BLONDER?

>> YES.

>> NANCY SIKES-KLINE?

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL OF OUR SECOND READINGS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO FIRST READING ORDINANCES,

[9.A.1. Ordinance 2024-08: Introduction of the annexation of a parcel of land to include 523 West King Street (PID1123300000). (A. Skinner, Director Planning and Building)]

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE HAVE NINE ORDINANCES, ALL RELATING TO WEST AUGUSTINE ANNEXATIONS.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS AMY SKINNER.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

AS YOU'VE NOTED, THE NEXT NINE ITEMS ARE ORDINANCES RELATED TO THE ANNEXATION, LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT, AND REZONINGS FOR THREE PROPERTIES PROPOSED TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE ALONG WEST KING STREET.

THERE'S A LONG HISTORY RELATED TO THE CITY LIMITS IN THIS AREA, HOWEVER, TO CLARIFY THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES IN THIS AREA AND TO PROVIDE THE PROPERTIES AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY FUTURE CITY CRA THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE PETITIONED TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY.

THE VOLUNTARY PETITIONS TO ANNEX AND THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS FOR EACH OF THESE PROPERTIES, WERE REVIEWED AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 12TH.

THE FIRST THREE ORDINANCES RELATE TO 523 WEST KING STREET, ORDINANCES 2024-08, 9 AND 10 ARE RELATED TO THE ANNEXATION, LAND USE, AND ZONING ORDINANCES RESPECTIVELY.

FOR THIS PROPERTY, CHANGING THE COUNTY DESIGNATIONS TO THE CITY COMMERCIAL, MEDIUM INTENSITY, AND CM2 ZONING CATEGORIES.

THE EXISTING COUNTY LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL D, AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS RS3.

THE SECOND THREE ORDINANCES RELATE TO 525 AND 527 WEST KING STREET.

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THESE ORDINANCES, 2024-11, 12, AND 13, ARE THE ANNEXATION AND LAND USE AND ZONING ORDINANCES RESPECTIVELY, FOR THIS PROPERTY.

CHANGING THE COUNTY DESIGNATIONS TO COMMERCIAL MEDIUM INTENSITY, AND CM2 FOR CITY ZONING.

THE EXISTING COUNTY LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO RESIDENTIAL D, WITH A PUD ZONING.

THE LAST THREE ORDINANCES RELATE TO 545 WEST KING STREET.

THESE ORDINANCES, 2024-14, 15 AND 16, AGAIN, RELATE TO THE ANNEXATION, LAND USE, AND ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY, CHANGING THE COUNTY DESIGNATIONS TO CITY, COMMERCIAL, MEDIUM INTENSITY, AND CM2.

THE EXISTING COUNTY LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL D, AND THE ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY IS RS3 IN THE COUNTY.

THE LAND USE AND ZONING APPLICATIONS FOR EACH OF THESE ADDRESSES WERE REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD ON APRIL 2ND.

THE CITY PORTION OF WEST KING STREET CORRIDOR, IS ALL COMMERCIALLY ZONED, WITH A RECOMMENDED LAND USE AS WELL.

EACH ORDINANCE WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AS AN INTRODUCTION IN FIRST READING.

THANK YOU AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A COUPLE MAPS TO SHOW THAT AND ILLUSTRATE THE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THESE ARE THE THREE PROPERTIES AS SHOWN RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS THE EXISTING CITY.

THEN THESE PROPERTIES ARE 523, 525, WHICH INCLUDES A COUPLE OF OTHER BUILDINGS, AND IT'S TWO PARCELS, 525 AND 527.

THEN THIS IS THE LODGE AT 545.

THIS IS THE EXISTING BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE ALMOST SURROUNDED BY CITY PROPERTY.

YEAH. OR PROPERTY IN THE CITY LIMITS.

IT'S NOT CITY PROPERTY PER SE.

THIS WOULD BE THE MAP AS AMENDED.

IF THE CITY COMMISSION MOVES FORWARD WITH THESE ORDINANCES, IT WOULD INCORPORATE ALL THREE PROPERTIES INTO THE CITY COMMERCIAL ZONING CATEGORY.

JUST FOR THE LARGER CONTEXT, THIS IS OUR LAND USE MAP AS WE HAVE IT ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

YOU CAN SEE THE WHOLE WEST KING STREET CORRIDOR, EXCEPT FOR THE CITY GOVERNMENT, PROPERTIES ARE COMMERCIALLY ZONED.

THEN THESE ARE THE THREE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THAT ARE RIGHT ALONG WEST KING STREET.

>> EXCELLENT INFORMATION.

ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE ONE. JUST A QUICK ONE.

WE HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE.

YOU INTRODUCED THIS TO US AT A PREVIOUS MEETING?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. ON FEBRUARY 12, THE PETITIONS TO ANNEX AND THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS WERE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION.

THESE THREE PROPERTIES, WENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD ON APRIL 2, AND THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO FOLLOW THE COMMERCIAL LAND USE AND ZONING IN THAT AREA.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THESE WERE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATIONS.

LET'S WORK TOGETHER ON THIS.

WE'VE NINE ORDINANCES.

I'M ASSUMING THAT EVERYONE IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, WHICH WE WERE WHEN WE FIRST HEARD IT.

THE FIRST TRANCHE IS 523 WEST KING STREET.

ANNEXATION IS ORDINANCE 2024-08 I MOVE THAT WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE.

>> I SECOND.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> I BELIEVE THEY HAVE TO BE READ, NO?

>> DO THEY HAVE TO BE READ BY TITLE ONLY ON FIRST READING TOO? OKAY. LET'S HAVE THE READING THEN. WE'LL DO THAT.

>> YES, MA'AM. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-08 IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY 0.23 ACRES OF PROPERTY NOW LOCATED IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA, LYING WEST OF THE CITY LIMITS OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND SOUTH OF WEST KING STREET AS DESCRIBED HERE IN REDEFINING THE BOUNDARY LINES OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE TO INCLUDE SAID PROPERTY, AMENDING SECTION 1.04 OF THE CHARTER LAWS OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR FILING OF A COPY HEREOF WITH THE CIRCUIT COURT OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA, WITH THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY CODE, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[01:15:01]

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MADAM CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> NANCY SIKES-KLINE?

>> YES.

>> CYNTHIA GARRIS?

>> YES.

>> JIM SPRINGFIELD?

>> YES.

>> BARBARA BLONDER?

>> YES.

>> BRONX HARBACH?

>> YES.

>> REGARDING THE FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE ORDINANCE 2024-09 I MOVE THAT WE PASS THIS ON FIRST READING, READ BY TITLE ONLY, AND SENT TO SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING.

>> SECOND.

>> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-09,

[9.A.2. Ordinance 2024-09: Amends the future land use designation of 0.23 acres of annexed property at 523 West King Street (PID 1123300000) from St. Johns County Residential-D to City Commercial Medium Intensity. (A. Skinner, Director Planning and Building)]

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FORM DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 0.23 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF WEST KING STREET AND WEST OF SOUTH WHITNEY STREET AS PORTIONS OF THE DANCY TRACT IN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN AFTER FROM ITS CURRENT DESIGNATION OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY RESIDENTIAL D, TO A CITY DESIGNATION OF COMMERCIAL, MEDIUM INTENSITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE AND INVALID PROVISIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> NANCY SIKES-KLINE?

>> YES.

>> ROXANNE HORVATH?

>> YES.

>> CYNTHIA GARRIS?

>> YES.

>> JIM SPRINGFIELD?

>> YES.

>> BARBARA BLONDER?

>> YES.

>> REGARDING THE REZONING ORDINANCE 2024-10

[9.A.3. Ordinance 2024-10: Amends the zoning designation of the 0.23 acres of annexed property at 523 West King Street (PID 1123300000) from St. Johns County Residential Single Family-three (RS-3) to City Commercial Medium-Two (CM-2). (A. Skinner, Director Planning and Building)]

I MOVE THAT WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE TO SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING.

>> SECOND.

>> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-10.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA REZONING APPROXIMATELY 0.23 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF WEST KING STREET AND WEST OF SOUTH WHITNEY STREET AS A PORTION OF THE DANCY TRACT, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 5203 WEST KING STREET, PID 112-330-0000 IN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREINAFTER FROM ITS CURRENT CLASSIFICATION OF ST. ⁇ JOHN'S COUNTY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY THREE RS THREE TO THE CITY CLASSIFICATION OF COMMERCIAL MEDIUM 2, CM-2, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> NANCY SIKES-KLINE?

>> YES.

>> ROXANNE HORVATH?

>> YES.

>> CYNTHIA GARRIS?

>> YES.

>> JIM SPRINGFIELD?

>> YES.

>> BARBARA BLONDER?

>> YES.

>> THE NEXT THREE ORDINANCES PERTAIN TO 525 AND 527 WEST KING STREET.

[9.A.4. Ordinance 2024-11: Introduction of the annexation of a parcel of land to include 525 West King Street (PID 1123200000) (A. Skinner, Director Planning and Building)]

I MOVE THAT WE PASS ORDINANCE 2020 4-11 CONCERNING THE ANNEXATION. DO I HEAR A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 4-11 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY 0.57 ACRES OF PROPERTY NOW LOCATED IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA, LYING WEST OF THE CITY LIMITS OF ST.

AUGUSTINE AND SOUTH OF WEST KING STREET AS DESCRIBED HEREIN.

REDEFINING THE BOUNDARY LINES OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE TO INCLUDE SAID PROPERTY, AMENDING SECTION 1.04 OF THE CHARTER LAWS OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR FILING OF A COPY HERE OF WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA, WITH THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY CODE, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICT ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> NANCY SIKES-KLINE?

>> YES.

>> CYNTHIA GARRIS?

>> YES.

>> JIM SPRINGFIELD?

>> YES. BARBARA BLONDER?

>> YES.

>> ROXANNE HORVATH?

>> YES.

>> THE NEXT ORDINANCE IS ORDINANCE 2024-12 PERTAINING TO

[9.A.5. Ordinance 2024-12: Amends the future land use designation of 0.57 acres of annexed property at 525 West King Street (PID 1123200000) and 527 West King Street (PID 1123400000) from St. Johns County Residential-D to City Commercial Medium Intensity. (A. Skinner, Director Planning and Building)]

THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF 525 AND 527 WEST KING STREET.

I MOVE THAT WE PASS THIS TO SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING, READ BY TITLE ONLY. DO I HEAR A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-12 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

PLUM DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 0.57 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF WEST KING STREET AND WEST OF SOUTH WHITNEY STREET AS PORTIONS OF THE DANCY TRACT, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 525 WEST KING STREET ID 112-320-0000 AND 527 WEST KING STREET PID 112-340-0000 IN THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREAFTER FROM ITS CURRENT DESIGNATION OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY RESIDENTIAL D, TO A CITY DESIGNATION OF COMMERCIAL MEDIUM INTENSITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> NANCY SIKES-KLINE?

>> YES.

>> ROXANNE HORVATH?

>> YES.

>> CYNTHIA GARRIS?

>> YES.

>> JIM SPRINGFIELD?

>> YES.

>> BARBARA BLONDER?

>> YES.

>> THE NEXT ORDINANCE IS ORDINANCE 2024-13 PERTAINING TO

[9.A.6. Ordinance 2024-13: Amends the zoning designation of the 0.57 acres of annexed property at 525 West King Street (PID 1123200000) and 527 West King Street (PID 1123400000) from St. Johns County Planned Unit Development (PUD) to City Commercial Medium-Two (CM-2). (A. Skinner, Director Planning and Building)]

THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF 525 WEST KING STREET.

I MOVE THAT WE PASS IT TO SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING.

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READ BY TITLE ONLY.

>> IT'S 25 AND 27.

>> I CORRECT MYSELF.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CORRECTION.

ACTUALLY, ORDINANCE 2024-13 IS PERTAINING TO THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF 525 AND 527 WEST KING STREET.

>> SECOND.

>> SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

>> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-13, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, REZONING APPROXIMATELY 0.57 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF WEST KING STREET AND WEST OF SOUTH WHITNEY STREET AS A PORTION OF THE DAUNCY TRACK, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 525 WEST KING STREET PID 1123200000 AND 527 WEST KING STREET, PID 1123400000 IN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HERE AND AFTER FROM ITS CURRENT CLASSIFICATION OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD, TO THE CITY CLASSIFICATION OF COMMERCIAL MEDIUM TWO, CM-2 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTED ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> NANCY SIKES-KLINE?

>> YES.

>> ROXANNE HORVATH.

>> YES.

>> CYNTHIA GARRIS?

>> YES.

>> JIM SPRINGFIELD?

>> YES.

>> BARBARA BLONDER?

>> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT, WONDERFUL.

THE NEXT THREE ORDINANCES, OUR FIRST READING,

[9.A.7. Ordinance 2024-14: Introduction of the annexation of a parcel of land to include 545 West King Street (PID 1123600000). (A. Skinner, Director Planning and Building)]

AND THEY'RE PERTAINING TO 545 WEST KING STREET.

THE FIRST IS THE ANNEXATION PORTION, 2024-14.

I MOVE WE PASS THIS TO SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AFTER IT'S BEEN READ BY TITLE ONLY.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-14.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY 0.11 ACRES OF PROPERTY NOW LOCATED IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA, LYING EAST OF THE CITY LIMITS OF ST.

AUGUSTINE AND SOUTH OF WEST KING STREET AS DESCRIBED HERE IN.

REDEFINING THE BOUNDARY LINES OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE TO INCLUDE SAID PROPERTY, AMENDING SECTION 1.04 OF THE CHARTER LAWS OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR FILING OF A COPY HEREOF WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA, WITH THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND WITH FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY CODE, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. MADAM CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> NANCY SIKES-KLINE?

>> YES.

>> ROXANNE HORVATH?

>> YES.

>> CYNTHIA GARRIS?

>> YES.

>> JIM SPRINGFIELD?

>> YES.

>> BARBARA BLONDER?

>> YES.

>> THE NEXT ORDINANCE IS ORDINANCE 2024-15 AS PERTAINS

[9.A.8. Ordinance 2024-15: Amends the future land use designation of 0.11 acres of annexed property at 545 West King Street (PID 1123600000) from St. Johns County Residential-D to City Commercial Medium Intensity. (A. Skinner, Director Planning and Building)]

TO THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THIS ANNEX PROPERTY.

I MOVE THAT WE PASS ORDINANCE 2024-15 ON FIRST READING TO SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING READ BY TITLE ONLY.

>> SECOND.

>> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-15, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FLUM, DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 0.11 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF WEST KING STREET AND EAST OF THE FEC RAILROAD AS PORTIONS OF THE DANCE TRACT, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 545 WEST KING STREET, PID 112-360-0000 IN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HERE AND AFTER FROM ITS CURRENT DESIGNATION OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY RESIDENTIAL D, TO A CITY DESIGNATION OF COMMERCIAL MEDIUM INTENSITY, PROVIDING FOR A REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> NANCY SIKES-KLINE?

>> YES.

>> ROXANNE HORVATH?

>>YES.

>> CYNTHIA GARRIS?

>> YES.

>> JIM SPRINGFIELD?

>> YES.

>> BARBARA BLONDER?

>> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. I THINK THIS IS OUR LAST ONE, ORDINANCE 20244-16 PERTAINS TO THE ZONING DESIGNATION,

[9.A.9. Ordinance 2024-16: Amends the zoning designation of 0.11 acres of annexed property at 545 West King Street (PID 1123600000) from St. Johns County Residential single family-three (RS-3) to City Commercial Medium-Two (CM-2). (A. Skinner, Director Planning and Building)]

AND I MOVE THAT WE PASS THIS TO SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND BEFORE THAT, IT NEEDS TO BE READ BY TITLE ONLY.

>> SECOND.

>> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-16 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, REZONING APPROXIMATELY 0.11 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF WEST KING STREET AND EAST OF THE FEC RAILROAD AS A PORTION OF THE DAUNCY TRACK, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 545 WEST KING STREET, PID 112-360-0000 IN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN AFTER FROM ITS CURRENT CLASSIFICATION OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY THREE RS-3, TO THE CITY CLASSIFICATION OF COMMERCIAL MEDIUM TWO, CM-2, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> NANCY SIKES-KLINE?

>> YES.

>> JIM SPRINGFIELD?

>> YES.

>> CYNTHIA GARRIS?

>> YES.

>> BARBARA BLONDER?

>> YES.

>> ROXANNE HORVATH?

>> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GREAT JOB.

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WE'LL BE INTERESTING AT PUBLIC HEARING AND ADD ANOTHER STEP TO THAT.

SAME DRILL, JUST ADD ANOTHER STEP. ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO RESOLUTIONS AND I SEE MEREDITH BRIDENSTEIN IS HERE ON RESOLUTION 2024-13.

[9.B.1. Resolution 2024-13: Authorizes the City Manager to designate plan administrators and those plan administrators may execute documents related to the 457 Deferred Compensation Plan. (D. Hayes, Director Human Resources)]

>> YES. GOOD EVENING.

MEREDITH BRIDENSTEIN, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

RESOLUTION 2024-13 AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO DESIGNATE PLAN ADMINISTRATORS AND EXECUTE ANY NEEDED DOCUMENTS RELEVANT TO THE CITY'S 457 DEFERRED COMPENSATION PLAN.

WE ARE MAKING UPDATES TO OUR CUSTODIAL ACCOUNT AND THEY REQUIRE A FORMAL RESOLUTION IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2024-13.

>> I'LL SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> JIM SPRINGFIELD?

>> YES.

>> NANCY SIKES-KLINE?

>> YES.

>> CYNTHIA GARRIS?

>> YES.

>> BARBARA BLONDER?

>> YES.

>> ROXANNE HORVATH?

>> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. TO CHECK THAT BOX, LET'S MOVE ON TO STAFF REPORTS,

[10.A. Presentation by Chief Carlos Aviles of the St. Augustine Fire Department regarding a camp which will feature youth empowerment for 6th, 7th and 8th graders on themes relating to girls and presented by female firefighters. (C. Aviles, St. Augustine Fire Department)]

AND WE HAVE ONE STAFF REPORT TONIGHT, A PRESENTATION BY CHIEF CARLOS APOLIZ, THE ST. AUGUSTINE FIRE DEPARTMENT, REGARDING A DAY CAMP WHICH WILL FEATURE YOUTH EMPOWERMENT FOR SIXTH, SEVENTH, AND EIGHTH GRADE GIRLS.

WE'RE EXCITED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.

>> WE ARE GLAD YOU'RE EXCITED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

CARLOS APOLIZ, YOUR FIRE CHIEF.

>> CAN YOU MOVE YOUR MICROPHONE UP?

>> YES I WILL MOVE THAT UP. HERE WE GO.

I BROUGHT FIREFIGHTER HANNAH RIDRIK WITH ME TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SPARK THE FLAME.

DO YOU WANT TO TELL THEM WHAT SPARK THE FLAME IS?

>> SURE. SPARK THE FLAME IS A GIRLS' EMPOWERMENT CAMP.

LIKE STATED EARLIER, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SIXTH, SEVENTH, AND EIGHTH GRADERS.

PUT THEM THROUGH OBSTACLES THAT WE NORMALLY SEE IN THE FIRE SERVICE.

BUT THE INTENT IS TO EMPOWER THEM TO WORK TOGETHER, COME OUT OF THEIR COMFORT ZONE, AND SHOW THEM THAT THE FIRE SERVICE IS A CAREER FOR ANYONE.

WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A THING FOR ME.

GOING TO THESE CAMPS AND MEETING SOME OF THESE OTHER WOMEN THAT WORK IN THE FIRE SERVICE OPENED UP MY OWN EYES AND I COULD SEE THE LITTLE GIRLS, HOW EXCITED THEY WERE, BECAUSE THIS WAS A NEW OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM.

I THINK IT'S VERY EXCITING.

>> WE DO HAVE A SHORT VIDEO FOR YOU THAT WILL GO ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS TONIGHT AFTER THIS MEETING.

>> JOIN US THIS SUMMER FOR OUR GIRLS EMPOWERMENT CAMP CALLED SPARK THE FLAME.

WE'LL TAKE YOUR SPARK OF INTEREST AND TURN INTO A FLAME OF PASSION.

>> SPARK THE FLAME IS A ONE DAY CAMP CENTERED AROUND POSITIVITY, TEAMWORK, AND PROMOTING ACTIVITIES FOR THE FIRE SERVICE.

>> WE'RE HOLDING TWO ONE DAY EVENTS ON MAY 31 AND JUNE 1, FROM 8:00 A.M. TO 3:00 P.M. EACH DAY.

>> REGISTRATION FOR OUR EVENT WILL BE HELD AT THE CITY FIRE DOWNTOWN MAIN STATION AT 101 MALAGA STREET AND IT'S GOING TO BE ON SATURDAY, APRIL 13, STARTING AT 8:00 A.M.

IT'S FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.

COME ON OUT EARLY AND GET YOUR SPOT.

>> WOW. GREAT VIDEO.

>> VERY COOL.

>> VERY EXCITING.

>> WE ARE ALSO REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE COMPRISED A CADRE OF ALL FEMALE FIREFIGHTERS FROM AS FAR AWAY AS VIRGINIA THAT ARE DEDICATING THEIR TIME TO COME DOWN AND VOLUNTEER TO WORK THE EVENT.

HANNAH AND I TRAVELED ALONG WITH FIREFIGHTER SCHILL DOWN TO IONA MCGREGOR IN THE FORT MYERS AREA TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO TO WORK A SIMILAR EVENT FROM THEM.

WE GOT TO SIT WITH THEIR COMMAND STAFF AND PICK THEIR BRAINS AND WE'RE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER WITH THE HOPE OF MAKING THIS AN ANNUAL RECURRING EVENT FOR SPRING BREAK.

WE'RE GOING TO DO IT THIS SUMMER, FINE TUNE WHAT WE NEED TO FINE TUNE, AND THEN THIS WILL BE AN ANNUAL RECURRING EVENT DURING SPRING BREAK MOVING FORWARD.

ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR US?

>> EXCELLENT. DO YOU DO HAVE SOME NEEDS, I ASSUME, WHERE YOU HAVE NEEDS FROM US OR DO YOU JUST WANT OUR BLESSING?

>> YES.

>> YOU DO?

>> ALL OF THE ABOVE?

>> YES.

>> WE'LL GET TO THAT.

>> WE'LL TAKE YOUR BLESSING AND OR OUTREACH ONCE WE GO LIVE TONIGHT WITH VIDEOS, THERE'S A PRESS RELEASE THAT ALSO WILL GO OUT, I BELIEVE, TOMORROW.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME PINPOINT TARGETING OUTREACH AS WELL THIS WEEK.

WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO FILL ALL OF

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THE SPOTS RELATIVELY QUICKLY THIS SATURDAY.

>> EXCELLENT.

>> I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE REACHING OUT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD OR SOMEBODY THERE. NO?

>> I THINK HE'S PULLING YOUR LOOK.

>> SORRY.

>> THAT'S OKAY. IT'LL BE ONCE SCHOOL WILL BE OUT AT THAT TIME FRAME.

WE HAVE SOME LOCAL GROUPS THAT WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT WITH AND WORK WITH.

WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO FOLKS ABOUT THIS CAMP AS WE'VE TRIED TO GARNER SUPPORT AND GET A HANDFUL OF VOLUNTEERS TO COME IN.

THERE'S ALREADY QUITE A BIT OF BUZZ OUT THERE.

>> GREAT.

>> AT 20 SPOTS A DAY.

WE HAVE A SMALL PLAN TO SURGE A LITTLE BIT IF NEEDED.

BUT WITHOUT HAVING A TON OF SPACE THERE, WE'RE GOING TO BE PRETTY LIMITED TO PROBABLY CAPPING IT AT THAT NUMBER.

>> FABULOUS IDEA.

>> EXCELLENT. WELL, WE CAN GO TALK IT OUT THEN.

PUT IT SHARED ON OUR INDIVIDUAL SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES, AND HELP YOU GUYS GET THAT 20 ATTENDEES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FOR TWO DAYS. 20 ON EACH DAY.

>> TWENTY ON EACH DAY, THAT'S CORRECT.

>> ON EACH DAY.

>> I'D LOVE TO LET YOU COME OUT.

>> OH, YEAH, DEFINITELY.

THANKS FOR THE INVITE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

>> THEN, ITEMS BY CITY ATTORNEY.

>> NOTHING TO ADD.

>> THANK YOU. YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU SO MUCH TODAY.

THAT WAS A LOT.

[INAUDIBLE] ITEMS BY CITY CLERK?

[12. ITEMS BY CITY CLERK]

>> I JUST HAVE ONE ITEM THIS EVENING.

I HAVE A REQUEST FOR ONE APPOINTMENT TO THE CORRIDOR REVIEW COMMITTEE.

WE ADVERTISE THIS EXPIRATION AND RECEIVED ONE APPLICATION FROM THE CURRENT SERVING BOARD MEMBER VON COCHRAN, AND HE IS ELIGIBLE TO CONTINUE SERVING.

MY REQUEST IS FOR YOU TO REAPPOINT MR. COCHRAN.

>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT.

>> GREAT. I'LL SAY THAT SECOND.

>> IT'S FINE.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU VON IF YOU'RE LISTENING.

ITEMS BY CITY MANAGER.

>>I HAVE NOTHING THIS EVENING. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ITEMS BY MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

[14. ITEMS BY MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS]

WE'D LIKE TO START WITH COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD.

>> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT WHAT WAS MENTIONED DURING THE TALK, THAT THE NON-PROFITS IN THE CITY ARE CRITICAL, AND WE RECOGNIZE SOME OF THEM TONIGHT.

JUST THANK GOODNESS THAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO SERVE THEIR TIME.

I THINK THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A NEWSPAPER TO ANNOUNCE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THESE MEETINGS, I KNOW WE'RE DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

PUT IT ON THE WEB, PUT IT ON FACEBOOK.

WE'RE SENDING OUT NEWS NOTES.

WE NEED TO STILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON TRYING TO NOTIFYING RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THE PCB AND I DON'T THINK THAT THEY OF UPCOMING EVENTS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL THEY NOTIFY.

WE OUGHT TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT IN THE LONG RUN.

I'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THE SHANNON DOA STREET PARKING LOT.

I DROVE I SAW THE GUY ON THE STREET SPINNING HIS SIGN.

I DROVE DOWN THERE AND I WONDERED, IS THIS RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME VICKY OWENS AS ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY APRIL.

I'M SORRY, APRIL. THANK YOU FOR A GOOD JOB THAT YOU DID.

ALSO REAL QUICK, I HAD TRIP TO ABIELYS AND I LEARNED A TON ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THE SISTER CITY IS TO THEM PARTICULARLY, BUT ALSO FOR US BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY.

IT WAS A GOOD TRIP.

I THINK WE SHOULD HONOR OUR SPEAKER, MISS KALADYS REQUEST THAT WE GIVE A REPORT SOMETIME ABOUT WHAT WE DID LEARN BECAUSE IT WAS VERY VALUABLE. HAD A GREAT TIME.

>> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE A FEW THINGS I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY, BASED ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE GOT TODAY ON THE PROPOSED PARKING ORDINANCE 2024-05, I'D LIKE TO HAVE ASKED THE CITY STAFF TO FOLLOW UP WITH THOSE RESIDENTS AND ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS OR HAVE MAPS OR THE LENGTH OF CURVE OR HOWEVER MANY RESIDENTIAL SPOTS MIGHT BE AVAILABLE.

BUT I THINK THEY HAD SOME VALID POINTS THE STAFF COULD FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

THAT'D BE MUCH APPRECIATED.

ON A LIGHTER NOTE, ACTUALLY A DARKER NOTE, THE ECLIPSE, TODAY, IT'S A LOT OF FUN.

I HOPE A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT TO SEE THAT SAFELY.

IT'S A SPECIAL TIME TO REALLY FEEL CONNECTED TO EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE,

[01:35:03]

BUT ALSO PARTICULARLY TO OUR WONDERFUL PLANET EARTH, WHICH I WANT TO ALSO HIGHLIGHT, IT IS THE ONLY PLANET THAT WE KNOW WHERE LIFE IS SO FAR.

THE CITY IS CELEBRATING EARTH MONTH AND I'M NOT SURE HOW WIDELY THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED.

BUT MAN, WE HAVE A GREAT SERIES OF EVENTS THAT ARE BEING PLANNED DURING THE WEEK OF APRIL 22ND.

THERE ARE FISH ISLAND WALKING TOURS.

THERE'S A SUSTAINABILITY SET OF THREE WORKSHOPS INCLUDING COMPOSTING.

THOSE WHO ATTEND ON TUESDAY THE 23RD WILL ACTUALLY GET TO PRE REGISTER EARLY FOR A COMPOST BIN UNDER OUR COMPOSTING PROGRAM, WHICH IS SUPER COOL.

THERE'S A RESILIENCY WALKING TOUR AND A RECYCLING EVENT.

THOSE ARE SOME REALLY NICE THINGS THAT ARE CALLING ATTENTION TO BY STAFF.

THEY PULLED THIS TOGETHER AND DONE A GREAT JOB I THINK.

I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY IS DOING TO BE MORE SUSTAINABLE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY AWARE AND PROTECTIVE OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT WE DO HAVE IN OUR ENVIRONMENT HERE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONER CARRIS.

>> I WOULD JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE PARKING AND THEY ARE VALID CONCERNS AS FAR AS IF WE IMPLEMENT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BOMBARD THE ABBOTT TRACK IN DIFFERENT PLACES IF THERE'S NO PARKING LOCATED ON SAN MARCO.

I THINK THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE SOME AWARENESS, SOME OPEN MEETINGS FOR SOME DIALOGUE.

OR AGAIN, AS COMMISSIONER BLONDER INDICATED, REACHING OUT TO THE SPEAKERS THAT CAME BEFORE US TODAY SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE HEAR THEM.

I REALLY DON'T LIKE THAT WE CAN'T RESPOND TO THE SPEAKERS WHEN THEY'RE UP THERE.

BECAUSE THEN THEY FEEL WE'RE GETTING THEM.

WHEN THEY DON'T HEAR ANYTHING AND THEN THEY LEAVE THEY JUST FEEL LIKE THAT THEY WASTE THEIR TIME.

WHEN WE FOLLOW UP RIGHT AWAY, THEN IT LOOKS LIKE WE DID HEAR THEM AND SO I ECHO THAT.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON I DON'T KNOW WHO'S OVER THE ROADS EXACTLY, BUT AS FAR AS WRITING DOWN THE STREETS AND FINDING THESE POTHOLE ROADS BECAUSE, I KNOW YOU GUYS ALL GOT THE EMAIL ABOUT OVER THERE BEHIND THE POLICE STATION.

BUT I WAS WRITING DOWN SOME OTHER STREETS WHEN I CAME DOWNTOWN EARLIER, AND I SAW OTHER ROADS THAT HAVE REALLY BIG INDENTS IN THEM.

I KNOW WE'RE BUSY AS A CITY, BUT THEY'RE IN THESE TRUCKS, THEY'RE DOING THE GARBAGE PICK UP.

THEY'RE IN THESE VEHICLES RIDING TO GET FROM ONE DESTINATION TO ANOTHER.

I KNOW PEOPLE ARE WITNESSING THE CONDITION OF THESE ROADS AND WE NEED TO DO BETTER, NOT ONLY JUST SO THAT US RESIDENTS CAN GET FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER.

WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME AS, WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME TO ST. AUGUSTINE, WHETHER IT'S THE CHAMBER OR THE TDC, WE NEED TO HAVE DRIVABLE ROADS BECAUSE NOBODY'S TRAVELED HERE FROM OUT OF TOWN AND WANTS TO HIT A POTHOLE AND THEIR CAR GETS DAMAGED.

I THINK THAT IT'S ACCOUNTABILITY.

THIS MAN, I RESPONDED TO HIM AND HE HOLLERED BACK ABOUT THE COUNTY NEED TO DO BETTER, THE CITY NEED TO DO BETTER.

OH, HE WAS REALLY ON IT.

I WAS LIKE, MAYBE I'LL THINK TWICE ABOUT RESPONDING TO THOSE E MAILS ANYWAY.

BUT HE WAS RIGHT THOUGH., AND I THINK SOMETIMES IF YOU DON'T GO DOWN A ROAD, YOU DON'T CARE WHEN IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU.

BUT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT EVERY RESIDENT.

SOMEBODY'S RIDING DOWN EVERY SINGLE STREET IN THE CITY.

THERE'S NO STREETS THAT'S BEING AVOIDED.

WE NEED TO GET SOME EYES OUT THERE AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE POTS. THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S IT?

>> THAT'S IT.

>> I GUESS I'M NEXT. I ALSO HAD ON MY LIST, THANK YOU TO OUR NEW ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, APRIL OWENS, FOR HER WORK TONIGHT.

IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU AND I WANT US TO RESPOND TO THE TREES IN MADEIRA.

>> YES, WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION COMING UP.

I BELIEVE IT'S AT THE NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING OR PERHAPS THE MAY MEETING AND I HAVE TO CHECK, BUT WE DO HAVE SOMETHING PREPARED FOR YOU COMING UP.

>> BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T FEEL LIKE I KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.

A PUD DON'T THEY HAVE TO RENEW IT IF THEY HAVEN'T DONE PHASE THREE IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME?

>> NO. OUR LAST UPDATE ELIMINATED THE PHASING SCHEDULE, SO THERE'S NO ARTIFICIAL TIMELINES.

BUT WE DO HAVE UPDATED INFORMATION ABOUT TREE REMOVAL THAT ALIGNS WITH THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY.

>> GOOD.

[01:40:01]

>> WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT TO YOU.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT THIS MONTH IS ALSO WE SAID THE POETRY FEST MONTH, AND SOME EVENTS ARE HAPPENING THURSDAY, APRIL 1, 111213.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU CAN LOOK IT UP, BUT IT LOOKS PRETTY INTERESTING.

IT WAS REALLY GOOD LAST YEAR.

I WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR VISIT TO ABIELYS.

>> EXCUSE ME, DID YOU SAY APRIL?

>> APRIL FIRST?

>> NO. APRIL 11TH.

>> OH. I'M SORRY.

>> CONSIDERED THE PAST.

>> AM I MUMBLING? I ALSO CAME BACK WITH A COLD, SO I'M A LITTLE EITHER.

HIGH ON COUGH MEDICINE, I'M NOT SURE.

A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR DELEGATION THAT WENT TO AVILES, MARCH 27 THROUGH APRIL 2ND.

I WENT AS VICE MAYOR.

JIM SPRINGFIELD WENT AS A CITY COMMISSIONER.

DAVID BACHAM, CITY MANAGER.

WITH US, MELISSA WHISTLE, OUR COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR AND MARIA LOPEZS WHAT'S OUR INTERPRETER, FRANCISCO'S GERARD IS OUR GOVERNMENT LIAISON.

HE'S A SPANISH GENTLEMAN THAT WE'VE KNOWN FOR YEARS.

HE'S A VOLUNTEER AND HE HELPS FACILITATE OUR TRIP THERE.

IT WAS A WHIRLWIND TRIP.

WE HAD FOUR DAYS THERE AND WE WERE CELEBRATING OUR 100TH YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE SISTER CITIES.

FRIDAY, OUR FIRST DAY, WE HAD OUR INSTITUTIONAL WELCOME AND PRESS CONFERENCE AT THE CITY HALL, AND WE HAD THE MAYOR MARVIN MONTEZERON AND MYSELF GIVE SOME WORDS OF WELCOME THERE.

THEN, THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND, WE HAD GUIDED TOURS WITH ROMAN ALVAREZ, AND HE'S A LOCAL HISTORIAN AND EXPERT ON PEDRO MENENDEZ, AND HE WILL BE ACTUALLY COMING HERE IN MAY, I THINK.

HE'S WRITTEN A NUMBER OF BOOKS, AND HE'LL BE HERE FOR THE ST. AUGUSTINE HISTORY FESTIVAL AND HE'LL HAVE TWO LECTURES WHILE HE'S HERE.

HE'S AN AMAZINGLY GIFTED RESEARCHER AND HE'S DONE JUST AMAZING WORK, SO IT WAS GREAT TO HAVE HIM TOUR US AROUND.

WE HAD A GUIDED TOUR OF THE PALACE VALDES THEATER, WHICH WAS THE FIRST PLACE THAT THE GROUP IN 1924 CAME AND THEY WENT TO THAT PALACE AND THEY MADE THE AGREEMENT TO HAVE THE SISTER CITY.

IT WAS REALLY NICE TO GET TO SEE THAT.

WE HAD A GUIDED TOUR OF THE MUSEUM OF AVILES, S MALL MUSEUM, VERY WELL DONE.

TALKS ABOUT THE HISTORY OF AVILES.

WE ALSO HAVE THE GUIDED TOUR OF OSCAR NE MARS INTERNATIONAL CULTURAL CENTER, AND THAT'S A WORLD RENOWNED PIECE OF ARCHITECTURE, PLAZA, THEATER, EXHIBIT SPACE, IT WAS JUST PRETTY OUTSTANDING.

THEN ON SATURDAY, WE WEREN'T QUITE DEAD YET, SO THEY KEPT US GOING.

WE GOT TO GO TO THE PHILIP CRYSTAL ANCHOR MUSEUM, WHICH WAS OUT ON THE COAST, AND THAT WAS WHERE THE ATOCHA ANCHOR WAS.

IT WAS REALLY AN IMPRESSIVE LANDSCAPE WITH CRASHING WAVES AND ALL KINDS OF ANCHORS AND ART.

WE NIPPED IN RIGHT BEFORE THE RAIN, GOT SOME PICTURES, AND THEN IT STARTED RAINING, SO WE RAN BACK TO THE BUS.

THEN WE WENT TO AN ESTATE, THE MAGDALENA ESTATE IN SOTO DEL BARCO, AND THAT'S WHERE THE FIRST DELEGATION IN 1924 MET AND OVERLOOKED THIS INCREDIBLE LAKE AREA.

THEY TOOK THEIR PICTURE AT THAT TIME, AND WE TOOK OUR PICTURE, ALTHOUGH WE HAD UMBRELLAS.

WE DIDN'T HAVE GREAT WEATHER THAT DAY, BUT IT WAS REALLY GOOD.

THEN WE ATTENDED TINO GERALDO CONCERT.

HE'S SPANISH I THINK, BUT HE IS A DRUMMER.

IT WAS AN OUTSTANDING JAZZ EVENT.

IT WAS HELD IN THE FACTORY, THEY CALL THE CULTURAL FACTORY, VERY SIMILAR TO OUR PONTO BEDRA CONCERT HALL HERE,

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WHICH HAS VARIOUS VENT AND THINGS.

TINO WAS ALSO OUR GUEST SPEAKER AT THE EL BOLO FESTIVAL, HE WAS FROM AVILES, WENT AWAY AND THEN CAME BACK AND HE WAS HONORED TO GIVE THIS TALK.

I'M EXHAUSTED JUST GOING OVER THIS.

ANYWAY, SUNDAY WE WENT TO MASK IT, A BEAUTIFUL MASS, AND THEN ATTENDED THE PARADE OF FLOATS.

IT WAS TINO GIVING THE SPEECH AND A PROCLAMATION.

THEN THERE WERE AT LEAST THREE NOTABLE PERFORMANCES IN THE PARADE.

THERE WAS A REPLICA OF AN OLD CAR, AND ALL THE PEOPLE DRESSED IN THE ATTIRE THAT THEY'D WEAR IN 1924, SO ALL THE WOMEN JUST LOOKED LIKE THEY STEPPED OUT OF 1924 AND MEN IT WAS REALLY NICE.

>> DID YOU GUYS GET TO BE IN THE PARADE?

>> NO, WE SAT ON THE STAGE WATCHED THE PARADE.

THEY HAD A WELCOMING SIGN ON THE OFFICIAL CAR OF OUR CREST ON IT, WHICH WAS GREAT.

THEN THEY HAD THE CORREA PIPE BAND.

THEY WERE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT CAME HERE IN MARCH.

THEY ALSO HAD A FLOAT THAT WAS THE REPLICA OF OUR AVILES STREET ARCH.

IT HAD ST. AUGUSTINE AND ALL OF THAT.

THEY COULDN'T HAVE BEEN BETTER TO US IN TERMS OF MAKING US FEEL WELCOME AND EVERYTHING.

THEN ON MONDAY WE HAD A WALKING TOUR THROUGHOUT AVILES, WE WENT TO FERRERO PARK AND WE HAVE TWIN MARKERS, YOU PROBABLY KNOW THE ONE THAT WE HAVE A TILE MARKER THAT'S ON AVILES STREET THAT WE HAD FROM THEM FOR 450TH.

WE'RE GOING TO PUT ANOTHER IN SEPTEMBER.

WHEN THEY COME BACK OVER, WE'RE GOING TO UNVEIL A NEW 100 YEAR COMMEMORATIVE MARKER AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT A PLAQUE ON THAT.

BUT THEN WE WENT TO SEE THE TWO OBOLIS, WE WENT TO THE PARK DILLA MINAS.

ANYWAY, WE WENT TO SEE THE OBOLIS THAT WE HAD GIVEN THEM.

IT WAS A GIFT TO THE CITY OF AVILES IN 2015 COMMEMORATING OUR BIRTHDAY, OUR 450TH YEAR, WHICH MATCHES OUR OBOLIS HERE IN OUR PLAZA.

THEN WE WENT AND WE TOURED THE PEDRO MENENDEZ STATUTE THAT THEY HAVE, WHICH WE HAVE THE SAME ONE OUT FRONT, SO IT'S A TWINNING.

THEN WE ENDED UP WITH THE STREET FESTIVAL, WHICH IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, THEY LINE EVERY STREET IN THIS SMALL TOWN, WHICH IS PROBABLY SIX TIMES THE SIZE OF OUR TOWN OR MAYBE EVEN EIGHT TIMES, THEY LINE THESE STREETS WITH TABLES AND CHAIRS JUST EVERYWHERE.

THEN PEOPLE RENT AN AREA AND THEY EITHER BRING A PICNIC LUNCH OR THEY CATER IT IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND IT IS ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING EVENTS.

YOU TOLD ME ABOUT IT.

I HAD NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE, I'D NEVER BEEN THERE FOR THAT EVENT.

BUT I WANT TO BRING IT HERE.

I THINK WE COULD START SMALL, BUT IT BRINGS THE WHOLE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND IT JUST WAS OUTSTANDING.

WE HAD A GREAT COMMUNITY MEAL.

THINKING BACK ON IT, WE'RE GETTING READY TO REVISIT OUR VISION WHICH TIES INTO MY NEXT COMMENT.

BUT WE DID THE VISIONING IN 2014 AND WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT IT SHORTLY, WHICH I'M HAPPY WE ARE, BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS BUT I'M NOT GOING TO BE RUNNING FOR MY CURRENT SEAT THIS COMING TERM BECAUSE I WILL HAVE SERVED 12 YEARS.

ANYWAY, I WON'T BE RUNNING FOR THAT, BUT I'M REALLY HAPPY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE REDOING THE VISION, BUT I THINK THIS TRIP REINFORCES THAT WE NEED TO SHOWCASE OUR HISTORY, OUR CULTURE, OUR TIES TO SPAIN, AND THIS JUST DRIVES IT HOME FROM ME.

I'M GLAD, JIM, THAT YOU WERE THERE, THAT YOU COULD SEE IT AND THAT.

OUR CITY MANAGER COULD SEE IT AND YOU'VE BEEN THERE AND IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO GET TO GO ONE OF THESE DAYS.

I THINK UNTIL YOU'RE THERE AND YOU MEET THESE PEOPLE AND SEE HOW SERIOUS THEY ARE AND LOVING THEY ARE, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND IT.

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ANYWAY, IT WAS A GREAT TRIP, BUT AS I SAID, A FEW PEOPLE KNOW I'M NOT RUNNING FOR THE SEAT THAT I WANTED TO ALLOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE QUALIFICATIONS AND A DESIRE TO RUN, I'D LIKE TO GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME TO THINK ABOUT RUNNING.

IT'S BEEN GREAT FOR ME IN THE LAST 11 PLUS YEARS AND I'VE REALLY ENJOYED IT.

DON'T CONSIDER ME A DEAD DUCK OR LAME DUCK.

HOPEFULLY NOT DEAD DUCK, BUT LAME DUCK, BECAUSE I GOT LOTS TO DO BEFORE DECEMBER SHOWS UP.

ANYWAY, THAT'S MY COMMENTS.

>> WE KNOW YOU'RE NOT A LAME DUCK OR A DEAD DUCK.

WE ABSOLUTELY KNOW.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE SO TO SPEAK.

IN THIS 100TH YEAR, CELEBRATING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH AVILES, OUR A LOT OF LOVE HAS GONE BETWEEN OUR TWO CITIES, A LOT OF THINGS AND COMMEMORATIVE THINGS.

IN FACT, THERE'S A WHOLE BOOK ON IT.

I APPRECIATE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP RAMAN COMING.

HE'S THE HISTORIAN, THE OFFICIAL HISTORIAN FOR AVILES AND HE WILL BE SEEING A FLYER SHORTLY, SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO SHARE THAT FOR THE ST. AUGUSTINE HISTORY FESTIVAL.

WE WERE PARTICIPATING, WE'RE SPONSORING HIM TO SPEAK, SO WE'LL GET TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT THAT 100 YEAR RELATIONSHIP.

BUT I WANT TO THANK BOTH OF YOU FOR GOING, CITY MANAGER AS WELL, AS WELL AS MELISSA WHISTLE AND MARIA.

IT'S A LOT OF WORK.

I UNDERSTAND AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, IT'S REALLY PUTTING YOURSELF OUT THERE.

AS YOU CAN HEAR FROM THE SCHEDULE, YOU REALLY DO WORK HARD WHEN YOU'RE THERE.

BUT IT'S A GOOD WORK, SO IT'S VERY ENJOYABLE.

BUT JIM IS OUR LIAISON FOR SISTER CITY, SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT HE BE THERE, AS WELL AS THE VICE MAYOR.

I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU LIKED THE EL BOYO FESTIVAL, EATING IN THE STREETS, THE SHARING OF THE STREETS, TAKING TO THE STREETS, THE DAY AFTER EASTER, WHICH IS THEIR BIG COMMUNITY TRADITION, TO BRING THEIR FAMILIES TOGETHER AND PICNIC TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY.

IT'S A VERY COOL EVENT.

I WILL BE GOING BACK.

THANK YOU ADVANCE TEAM.

I'LL BE GOING BACK WITH A DELEGATION OF MIXTURE OF BUSINESSES, SISTER CITY'S REPRESENTATIVES IN A RATHER LARGE DELEGATION IN AUGUST.

THEN OF COURSE, THEY WILL COME HERE.

THEY WILL SEND THEIR DELEGATION HERE IN SEPTEMBER FOR OUR FOUNDING DAY.

I'LL BE GOING OVER TO CELEBRATE 100 YEARS THERE.

OF COURSE, PEOPLE ARE WELCOME TO COME.

MOST OF US ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A VERY GOOD GROUP TO REPRESENT.

WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.

THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE RESIDENTS TAKING THE TIME TO COME OUT AND GIVE US FAIR WARNING OF THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE PARKING CODE.

I HAD HAD SOME CONCERNS AND SPOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

I GUESS YOU CAN READ THE TEA LEAVES, SO TO SPEAK, WHEN YOU HEAR FROM A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND HEARING THE STRIDENT NATURE OF WHAT THEY WERE SAYING.

WE TALKED IT OVER AND CITY MANAGER DAVID AGREED TO SLOW IT DOWN, BUT ALSO, AS WAS SUGGESTED BY ALL OF US HERE, TO REDOUBLE THE EFFORTS TO CLARIFY WHY ARE WE DOING THIS.

OUR CASE FOR SUPPORT, GO OUT WITH A CASE FOR SUPPORT, WHAT IS THE REASON? MAYBE WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME FLEXIBILITY ABOUT HOW WE APPROACH IT.

MAYBE IT'S THE THING THAT CAN BE APPROACHED IN PHASES.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE WHOLE SHEBANG ALL AT ONE TIME.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME AREAS.

WE'RE MOTIVATED BY DOING THIS FOR WEST AUGUSTINE, BUT CAN WE START THERE AND MAYBE SEE HOW IT GOES?

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THEN MAYBE TALK ABOUT SAN MARCO LATER OR THE OTHER AREAS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

I JUST FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE.

I HEAR WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

THEY'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? IT IS COUNTERINTUITIVE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHY SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE WHERE I THINK THE WORD WAS BRINGING THINGS TO A CRITICAL MASS OR FORCING US IN A DIRECTION TOWARDS MORE DENSITY.

I THINK IT IS SOMETHING HARD TO GET TO YOUR HEAD WRAPPED AROUND.

THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE CHANGES.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DENSITY, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD TO USE WITH THIS.

I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPILLOVER PARKING THAT WILL BE CREATED.

IT'S A SPILLOVER PARKING ISSUE.

>> WHICH I THINK WE BROUGHT UP LAST TIME.

>> YOU ALL REALLY WELL ARTICULATED THAT.

>> BUT THE OTHER THING THAT WAS SPOKEN ABOUT, IF YOU MIND IF I JUMP IN HERE, WAS THE TIGHTNESS OF THE STREETS AND THE AMBULANCE ACCESS AND ALL OF THAT.

HAVING SYSTEMS IN PLACE LIKE THE NEW BROUDY PARKING GARAGE WITH TRAMS THAT TAKE PEOPLE AROUND, OR TRAMS THAT TAKE PEOPLE AROUND A DIFFERENT ROUTE, MAYBE UP TO THIS AREA FROM OUR EXISTING PARKING GARAGE FOR AN INTERIM.

THERE NEEDS TO BE THINGS IN PLACE BEFORE WE ELIMINATE THE PARKING, I THINK, FROM THE COMMERCIAL BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO GO IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS EVEN MORE DENSELY.

I'M NOT OPPOSED. I SEE THE IDEA OF THE DENSITY MAKES SENSE.

BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF THE BARS AND THE NOISE AND THAT ENCROACHING IT RIGHT BACK UP AGAINST A NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT.

EITHER IT'S WORKED OUT AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT YET, OR WE NEED TO GO A LITTLE MORE INTO DEPTH BEFORE WE MOVE THAT DIRECTION, IN MY OPINION.

>> I WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE THE TERM WAS USED, FORCING THE ISSUE THROUGH, JUST MOVING FORWARD.

AS I SPOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER, IF THE END GAME IS TO FORCE THE ISSUE TO CREATE MORE PARKING, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION WITHOUT SOLUTIONS AND A PLAN IN PLACE FOR PARKING SUPPLY, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER BEFORE I CAN SUPPORT IT.

I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER OR I NEED THE PLAN IN PLACE.

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE PARKING.

HAVE WE DONE A STUDY IF SAY THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS GO ALL RESIDENTIAL PARKING? IF THEY DECIDE TO DO THAT, DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR THOSE RESIDENTS? DID WE ACTUALLY DO THAT STUDY? IF WE DID, THEN IT'S STILL A QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY WANT TO GO THAT DIRECTION.

BUT ANYWAY, I'M GLAD WE'RE SLOWING IT DOWN SOME.

>> I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THE EMPLOYEE COOKOUT THING, IT'S WEDNESDAY.

>> YES, MA'AM, IT IS.

>> YES. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU GUYS KNOW OR PLAN ON GOING.

I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU BECAUSE WE GET SO BUSY WITH THE WEEK THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO GO OUT AND SEE THE STAFF.

IF YOU CAN MAKE AN APPEARANCE OR SOMETHING, I THINK IT'LL BE GOOD MORALE LIFTING, IF YOU'RE ABLE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

I WAS SUPPOSED TO BRING THAT UP IN MY COMMENTS.

>> IT'S A WONDERFUL OCCASION.

>> WE COVER FOR EACH OTHER ALL THAT TIME.

>> WE HAVE BEEN TONIGHT A LOT. ARE WE ALL DONE?

>> MEETING ADJOURNED.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.