4. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS OR FOR AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING

[8.A.1. Ordinance 2023-32: Amends the St. Augustine Historic Area Community Redevelopment Agency's Redevelopment Plan and modifies the Agency's operational timeframe. (J. Perkins, Neighborhood Services & CRA Manager)]

WE DO HAVE A SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE 2023-32.

MISS JAMIE PERKINS, UM, YOU ARE FREE TO PRESENT.

GOOD EVENING.

OH, GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR.

MADAM VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

THIS IS MY FIRST TIME SEEING MOST OF YOU IN 2024.

UM, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS, UM, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-32.

AND I DO WANT TO, UM, CORRECT THE AGENDA.

A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR SHOWS AGENDA OR ORDINANCE 2023-34 THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE NUMBER IS 2023-32.

UM, THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO, UM, THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

UM, AMENDS THE HISTORIC TRANSPORTATION, PARKING, COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA PLAN, EXTENDING THE OPERATIONAL TIME FRAME AND MODIFYING THE TRUST NAME TO HISTORIC AREA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

DURING THE FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING, THERE WERE SEVERAL QUESTIONS, ALL OF WHICH WERE ANSWERED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE INQUIRY RELATED TO REVENUE IN THE TRUST FUND. SO I WANTED TO, UM, CLARIFY THAT TONIGHT.

UM, STAFF REPORTED TO THE AGENCY AND THE COMMISSION DURING OUR FISCAL YEAR 24 BUDGET HEARINGS AND ADOPTION, THAT THE TRUST HAD $30,127 REMAINING IN THE TRUST.

UM, AND THAT AMOUNT WAS FOLLOWING THE REPAYMENT OF OUR GARAGE DEBT SERVICE, AS WELL AS ANY ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS THAT WE INCURRED FOR THAT YEAR.

AND WITH THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BEING, UM, THIS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE ANY SURPLUS IN THAT TRUST FUND.

THE PROJECTED TRUST REVENUE FOLLOWING THE DEBT SERVICE REPAYMENT AND ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS IS PROJECTED TO BE $543,000.

UM, WHICH IS ALLOCATED ON THE ADOPTED HACRA BUDGET IN LINE ITEMS FOR ANTICIPATED PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS FOR THE HACRA.

UM, STAFF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT IS THAT WE HOLD A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AND READING OF THE ORDINANCE AND ULTIMATELY ADOPT ORDINANCE 2023-32. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONERS, BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC HEARING, ANY QUESTIONS OF MISS PERKINS.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THEN WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.

I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS.

IS ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

HEARING NO ONE SEEING NO ONE.

PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS CLOSED.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

UM, WE ARE BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK, MADAM MAYOR? I'M SORRY. I WAS WONDERING IF, UM, MISS PERKINS, UH, COULD TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE, UM, STATUS OF THE EDDIE VICKERS PARK.

SURE. THE, UM.

CURRENTLY WE'RE IN THE DESIGN PHASE FOR EDDIE VICKER'S PARK.

UM, BUT I'M SURE THIS BOARD WOULD BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT, UM, WE RECENTLY ACQUIRED THE ARPA FUNDS FROM SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, WHICH IS, UM, A PARTNERSHIP, UH, REVENUE TO PAY FOR THE, UM, MODIFICATIONS AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR BASKETBALL COURTS, WHICH ARE ULTIMATELY WILL BECOME SPORTS COURTS.

SO TWO BASKETBALL COURTS AND SIX PICKLEBALL COURTS.

SO WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THAT SOLICITATION TO GET THAT ELEMENT OF THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.

UM, BUT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD IN THE COMPLETE DESIGN STAGE FOR EACH ELEMENT OF THAT PARK.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BLONDER, I THINK I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT IF ANYONE IS LISTENING OUT THERE OR WHATEVER, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE HEARING THIS, THIS HAS BEEN AN EXHAUSTIVE PROCESS AND A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS WHICH YOU HAVE, UM, VERY CAPABLY ANSWERED AND ADDRESSED.

SO THANK YOU, MISS PERKINS.

YES, MA'AM. YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YES. I'D LIKE TO REITERATE WHAT YOU.

OH, COMMISSIONER GARRIS, UM, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATED TIME WHEN, UM, PROJECTED TIME WHEN THE PARK WILL BE COMPLETED?

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THE ENTIRE PROJECT OR THE BASKETBALL COURT? THE BASKETBALL COURTS.

THE COURTS I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT, UH, PROBABLY AN 18 MONTH PROJECT.

AND I'M BEING GIVEN US A LOT OF TIME JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO UNDER-PROMISE.

AND THEN IT TAKES US MUCH LONGER.

UM, BUT I'M HAPPY ON THE 22ND, DURING OUR AGENCY MEETING TO BRING YOU A FULL REPORT ON EDDIE VICKERS PARK, UM, AND ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN THE CRA.

OKAY. SO I'LL PREPARE THAT FOR YOU FOR OUR 22ND MEETING.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

OKAY. EXCELLENT.

WELL. THANK YOU. UM, WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.

UM, LIKE YOU HAVE DONE SO WELL AND, UM, HOST MANY, MANY OPEN HOUSES, UM, WORKSHOPS, UM, PUBLIC HEARINGS TO GET US THIS FAR THIS REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES, MA'AM. YOU'RE WELCOME.

UM. WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO, UM MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE PASS ORDINANCE 2023-32.

SECOND. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-32 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, PERTAINING TO THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADJUSTING THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY'S OPERATIONAL TIME FRAME.

MODIFYING THE SAINT AUGUSTINE HISTORIC AREA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND EXTENDING THE TIME CERTAIN IN THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.

PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES.

UM HERE HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELL DONE.

[9.B.1. Resolution 2024-01: Authorizes the City Manager to apply to the Florida Inland Navigation District (FIND) for a grant in the amount of $300,000.00 for Salt Run Navigation Channel maintenance and dredging; and authorizes the entering into the Interlocal Agreement between the City and the St. Augustine Port, Waterway and Beach District. (E. Walter, Grant Administration Coordinator)]

UM, MOVING ON TO DOWN TO ITEM NINE B, WE HAVE RESOLUTIONS AND THIS IS RESOLUTION 2024.

DASH ZERO ONE BY WILL BE PRESENTED BY MR. WALTER. WELCOME, MR. WALTER. GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR, VICE MAYOR.

COMMISSIONERS. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL.

AND TO YOU. UM, SO I'M HERE PROPOSING RESOLUTION 2024, ALONG WITH THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE SAINT AUGUSTINE PORT AND WATERWAY BEACH DISTRICT.

THESE DOCUMENTS ARE REQUIRED AND ARE NEEDED FOR THE 2024 FUNDING FOR THE SALT RUN DREDGING PROJECT.

AS YOU KNOW, SALT RUN IS 1.8 MILE STRETCH AND IT'S HOME TO THE SAINT AUGUSTINE LIGHTHOUSE, BOAT RAMP, ANASTASIA ISLAND, THE SAINT AUGUSTINE YACHT CLUB, AND, UM THE CONCOURSE MARINA AND A FEW OF OUR MOORING FIELDS.

SO EVERY YEAR IT'S A VERY ACTIVE WATERWAY.

SO EVERY YEAR DURING WEATHER, HURRICANES, SHOALING OCCURS, WHICH WILL BRING SPOIL AND MAKE IT A VERY DIFFICULT NAVIGABLE WATERWAY FOR THESE BOATERS.

SO THE GOAL IS TO DREDGE LIKE WE DID IN 2023.

WE GOT THE DREDGE 10,259YD³ OF SPOIL.

WE BROUGHT THAT UP TO JACKSONVILLE AND THEIR DISPOSAL SITES.

SO THIS RESOLUTION AND INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WILL PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE 2024 WITH A 75% AND A 25% MATCH FROM THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT, AND WITH A $300,000, 75% AND $100,000 FROM THE SAINT AUGUSTINE PORT AND WATERWAY DISTRICT WITH A 25% MATCH.

SO I'M ASKING THE COMMISSIONERS IF THEY WOULD PLEASE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2024-01 AND ALSO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE SAINT AUGUSTINE PORT WATERWAY DISTRICT.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PROJECT.

YES. UM, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I DO NOT. ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COMMENT.

I DO OKAY, A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

YEAH. UM. THANK YOU.

I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A REGULAR MAINTENANCE.

I GET THAT, UM, I JUST QUESTIONING JUST IN TERMS OF THE WILDLIFE PROTECTIONS, UM, ARE THOSE ARE ALL BUILT IN AND APPROVED BASED ON.

YES. WE HAVE PERMITS TO, UH, DREDGE THAT AREA, AND WE MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACTORS ARE FOLLOWING THE, UM, PROVIDED GUIDELINES AND.

OKAY. WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

IT'S, UM, MY COMMENTS ARE IT'S UNBELIEVABLE HOW FAST THE CHANNEL FILLS IN.

AND, UM, IT'S AMAZING THAT WE GET THE INCREDIBLE SUPPORT FROM FINE LIKE WE DO IN THE PORT AND AND RELIABLY SO.

YES. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THEM, ESPECIALLY TO THEM.

SO AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS GOES ALL THE WAY FROM THE INLET, THAT 1.8 MILES IS ALL THE WAY TO THE BOAT RAMP.

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OR DOES IT GO PAST THE BOAT RAMP? IT GOES PAST THE BOAT RAMP ALL THE WAY TO ANASTASIA STATE PARK.

OKAY. UM, BUT WHEN WE DO THIS DREDGING, WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD SURVEY.

WE SEE WHERE THE AREAS OF CONCERN ARE, BECAUSE SOME AREAS ARE A LOT SHALLOWER THAN OTHERS, SO WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DREDGE THAT AREA.

BUT THE MAIN GOAL IS TO GET NEGATIVE TEN MEAN LOW WATER.

SO DURING LOW TIDE, HIGH TIDE UM BOATERS CAN PASS THROUGH THERE FREELY AND NOT HIT ANY SANDBARS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

EXCELLENT. AND IT CHANGES EVERY YEAR.

SO DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER.

VERY INTERESTING. THANK YOU.

UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION PASS RESOLUTION.

ANYONE? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2024-01 ALL SECOND.

UM, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

ONE TO APPROVE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE PORT WATERWAY AND BEACH DISTRICT.

THEY WERE COMBINED ON YOUR AGENDA.

BUT IT'S TWO THINGS. ONE WAS THE RESOLUTION WITH FIND AND ONE IS AN INTERLOCAL.

OKAY, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE INTERLOCAL.

I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? OKAY. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

OKAY THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM TEN A AND THAT IS MR.

[10.A. Update on the Bridge of Lions intersection improvements. (R. Franklin, Assistant City Manager)]

FRANKLIN, YOU'RE HERE TO PRESENT THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

YOU JUST PULL UP IF YOU HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THIS EVENING, I WANTED TO GIVE, UH, THE COMMISSION AN UPDATE ON, UH, KING STREET.

UH, AS WELL AS THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, PROPOSED INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE OF LIONS.

UM, DOT.

UM, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HELD A PUBLIC MEETING IN EARLY NOVEMBER.

UH, WE RECEIVED INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC ON THAT, UH, AND, UH, WANTED TO PROVIDE A KIND OF SOME CONTEXT.

UH, IT IS PART OF OUR KING STREET TRANSFER AGREEMENT.

UH, SO THE COMMISSION ENTERED AN AGREEMENT WITH DOT TO TRANSFER OWNERSHIP OF KING STREET, UH, BACK TO THE CITY.

UH, AND SO THAT PUBLIC MEETING WAS PART OF THAT AGREEMENT, BECAUSE IN THAT AGREEMENT, IT LAYS OUT THAT DOT WILL MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE INTERSECTION AT THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE.

THAT ALL BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS.

SO, UM, IT IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE STATE, AND THE STATE IS LOOKING FOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AS WELL.

UH, AND SOME OF THESE SLIDES ARE FROM SOME OF THE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS.

SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS 2017, 2018, 2019 LEADING UP TO THIS, THIS MOMENT.

BUT, UH, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ACCOMMODATE TRAFFIC, PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS IN A VERY CONSTRAINED SPACE.

UM. GOING TO THE OVERALL AGREEMENT THIS IS THE OVERALL AGREEMENT FOR KING STREET.

UH, WHAT'S IN RED IS THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WAS GOING ON RIGHT BEFORE NIGHTS OF LIGHTS.

UH, THAT SHOULD WRAP UP AT THE END OF FEBRUARY, UH, BEGINNING OF MARCH.

UM, BUT MOST OF THE UNDERGROUND WORK IS COMPLETE THERE.

SO ONCE THAT RED PHASE IS COMPLETE, UH, PER THE AGREEMENT, THE CITY RETAINS OWNERSHIP OF THE GREEN HIGHLIGHTED GREEN AREA.

WE'RE UNDER DESIGN.

UH, TO GO TO 30%, UH, DESIGN PLANS FOR THE GREEN AREA.

SO FEBRUARY 20TH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR FIRST PUBLIC MEETING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DEBUT THE CONCEPTS FOR KING STREET, UH, STREETSCAPE, PEDESTRIAN SCALE LIGHTING, UH, A TRANSIT LANE VERSUS, UH, PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS BETWEEN CORDOVA AND MALAGA STREET.

SO WE'RE GOING TO START TO GET PUBLIC INPUT, UH, ON THE GREEN SECTION, UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WEBSITE SO PEOPLE CAN GO.

IF YOUR PROPERTY IS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, YOU CAN CLICK ON YOUR PROPERTY AND IT'S GOING TO SHOW YOU THE CONCEPTS AND HOW IT, UH, INTERACTS WITH YOUR PROPERTY.

UH, AND THEN FEBRUARY 20TH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INPUT.

THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE WHAT WE DECIDE TO DO AT THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE OF LIONS IMPACTS WHAT WE CAN DO TRAFFIC WISE, UM, AROUND THE PLAZA. SO, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH IMPROVEMENTS WE WERE LOOKING AT WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT DOTS PROPOSING, WE COULD ONE LANE

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CATHEDRAL, UH, SO WE'D HAVE ON STREET PARKING AND REDUCE THE LANE ON CATHEDRAL BASED ON HOW EFFICIENT THE INTERSECTION WORKS.

SO IF WE CHOOSE TO KEEP EXISTING, UH, THEN WE'RE BASICALLY LOCKING IN THE TRAFFIC PATTERN AROUND THE PLAZA, WHICH IS TWO LANES WESTBOUND AND TWO LANES EASTBOUND. UM, BUT HOW DO WE GET HERE? UH. PART OF THE MOBILITY PLAN WAS LOOKING AT WHAT EFFICIENCIES WE COULD GET OUT OF THE EXISTING NETWORK.

WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF WIDENING ROADS, BUT INTERSECTIONS, AS SHOWN IN MAY STREET IN SAN MARCO.

IF WE HAVE A LITTLE ROOM, IF WE CAN PLAY WITH, UH, THE AREA THERE THAT WE CAN GET EFFICIENCIES OUT OF THE INTERSECTION.

SO WHEN WE DID TRAFFIC COUNTS, WE FOUND THAT MOST TRAFFIC COMING ACROSS THE BRIDGE FROM THE ISLAND TOWARDS THE PLAZA, TWO THIRDS OF THAT TRAFFIC WANTS TO GO R IGHT. SO MOST OF WHAT CONCEPTS WE'VE LOOKED AT HAS BEEN TRYING TO HOW DO WE FACILITATE THAT TRAFFIC THAT WANTS TO GO NORTH? UH, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW EXISTING TRAFFIC THAT WANTS TO GO STRAIGHT ONTO CATHEDRAL OR TURN LEFT TO GO SOUTH ON AVENIDA MENENDEZ, AS SOON AS THEY BLOCK THAT SLIP LANE TO GO NORTH, THEN THAT QUEUE STARTS TO BUILD UP, BECAUSE ALL THOSE CARS THAT WANT TO GO, THOSE TWO THIRDS THAT WANT TO GO RIGHT AND NORTH UP THE BAY FRONT, UH, CAN NO LONGER DO THAT. SO WE STARTED TO SAY, HOW BEST CAN WE FACILITATE THAT MOVEMENT? SO WE LOOKED AT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT CONCEPTS.

THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES, UH, THROUGH THE MOBILITY PLAN WITH SNME THAT WE CAME UP WITH, WHICH WAS JUST FORCING ALL TRAFFIC RIGHT AT THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE.

NOW, ONCE IT COME UP AND HAVING A SIGNALIZED U-TURN AT HYPOLITA STREET, WELL, WE WORKSHOP THAT AND THAT WAS A RESOUNDING NO FROM THE PUBLIC.

UH, AND THIS IS ALSO WHERE WE WOUND UP IN THE FRONT PAGE OF THE PAPER FOR THE CITY IS GOING TO CLOSE CATHEDRAL.

I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SAY WE HEARD PRETTY LOUDLY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WE WANT TO MAINTAIN TRAFFIC ON CATHEDRAL AS PART OF THIS.

THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD THROUGH THE WORKSHOPS.

BUT THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT.

AND WE CROSS THIS OUT BASED ON PUBLIC INPUT.

BUT WE STARTED TO LOOK AT ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT.

THE OTHER ONE THAT'S NATURAL IS WHY DON'T YOU WHY DON'T YOU JUST DO A ROUNDABOUT AT THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE? A ROUNDABOUT WOULD WORK.

A ROUNDABOUT CAN WORK, BUT YOU NEED A LOT OF SPACE FOR THE ROUNDABOUT.

AND IT ACTUALLY INTRUDES INTO THE ANDERSON AND PONTES CIRCLES.

SO EVERY CONCEPT THAT WE LOOKED AT AND WE WERE GETTING CREATIVE HERE IN THE CONCEPTS WE LOOKED AT, BUT WE STARTED TO VET A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT CONCEPTS OUT TO SEE IF THEY WOULD EVEN WORK. NOW THIS WAS THE CITY DOING THIS, AND WE HAD TO BRING IF WE FOUND SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT MIGHT WORK, THEN WE'D GO TO DOT AND START TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

WELL, THROUGH THESE CONCEPTS.

UH, WHAT WE DID FIND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE GOT FEEDBACK AT THE TIME THAT ANDERSON'S CIRCLE.

WE SHOULD NOT BE TOUCHING ANDERSON OR PONTES CIRCLE.

SO THAT WAS THE CRITERIA.

SO WE STARTED TO PULL BACK, UH, THE INTERSECTION.

WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE WOUND UP ON WITH, UH, COLLABORATION WITH FDOT.

AND THIS WAS THE EXHIBIT THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE AGREEMENT, UH, THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

AND YOU CAN SEE WE PULLED IT BACK.

SO WE'RE NOT ENCROACHING ON THE CIRCLES.

THE ONE THING THAT HAD TO GIVE ON THIS IS THE CEMETERY OF THE PARKS AT THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE.

UH, WE DID HAVE TO SHAVE PART OF THE PARK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BRIDGE IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THOSE MOVEMENTS.

SO THIS IS WHAT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE KING STREET AGREEMENT.

UH DOT FROM THAT WENT OUT AND PROCURED A DESIGN FIRM, AND THEY FURTHER MODELED IT.

UH, THIS IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE PUBLIC MEETING, UH, THAT WE RECEIVED INPUT UH, ON.

AND I INCLUDED THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, AS AN EXHIBIT IN THE PACKET, UM, AS WELL AS THE PRESENTATION, UH, THAT WAS GIVEN AT THE PUBLIC MEETING. UH, AND THEN ALSO THE TRAFFIC OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS, WHICH IS A FAIRLY QUICK READ.

UM, BUT IT REALLY DOES GO INTO DEPTH OF WHAT, WHAT THIS DOES, UM, AND IT DOES SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE, UH, QUEUE LENGTHS IN ALL DIRECTIONS AT THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE.

BUT AGAIN, THE QUESTION THAT WE GOT THAT I HEARD FROM THAT PUBLIC MEETING WAS, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF THE MOVEMENT OF PEDESTRIANS THROUGH THE INTERSECTION. UH, AND THEN THERE WAS A LOT OF HEARTBURN FROM, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATIONISTS OVER, UH, INTRUDING INTO THAT, UH, PUBLIC PARK AREA AT THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE. THIS IS JUST A SIDE BY SIDE TO SHOW YOU WHAT'S EXISTING OUT THERE TODAY, UH, VERSUS WHAT IS PROPOSED.

UM, ACTUALLY, AND I GOT THESE NUMBERS TO THE WHAT'S PROPOSED ACTUALLY INCREASES THE GREEN SPACE BY ABOUT 0.3 ACRES.

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SO IT REDUCES IMPERVIOUS AREA, UH, BY ABOUT 0.3 ACRES.

UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE AND THE REASON I LOOK AT THIS IS I'M LOOKING AT HOW PEDESTRIANS ARE CROSSING THE STREET WITH THE EXISTING VERSUS WHAT'S PROPOSED.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO GO INTO THOSE CENTER ISLANDS RIGHT NOW TO CROSS, BUT IT'S KIND OF DISJOINTED AS YOU, UH, CROSS ON THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. PEDESTRIANS, UH, IN THE PROPOSED ARE FURTHER PUSHED FURTHER OUT ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE, BUT THERE'S A MORE LINEAR CROSSING ON THE WEST SIDE.

NOW IN THIS DOT DID NOT HAVE A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, UM, BY THE LIONS.

UH, AND SINCE THEN, I DID GET PUBLIC INPUT, AND I HAVE TALKED WITH DOT ABOUT THAT, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK, UM, AT THE WHERE THE LIONS ARE AT.

SO YOU WILL HAVE ACTUAL PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS ON ALL SIDES OF THE INTERSECTION.

UH, THESE ARE THE SLIDES I WANTED TO JUST SHARE WITH YOU.

THESE WERE PRESENTED AT THE PUBLIC MEETING.

UM, UH, AND DOT, YOU KNOW, HAD A MODEL THERE THAT SHOWED THE TRAFFIC MOVEMENT IN [INAUDIBLE].

BUT THESE ARE KIND OF THE RESULTS, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS VERSUS THE PROPOSED.

IT'S PUSHING THROUGH AROUND THE SAME AMOUNT OF VEHICLES.

UH, IT'S JUST PUTTING THEM THROUGH QUICKER.

UH, AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT ALLEVIATES QUEUE TIMES THAT BUILD UP IN EXTREME CONGESTION.

SO IN YOUR EXISTING IT'S AVERAGING ABOUT 97 9,753 VEHICLES.

AND UH, THE PROPOSED IT'S 9,753.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE CAPACITY OF THE ROAD.

WE'RE IMPROVING THE EFFICIENCY OF THE INTERSECTION.

UH, THIS IS THE REDUCED TRAFFIC QUEUE TIME.

SO YOUR EXISTING SOUTHBOUND IS IF YOU'RE HEADING, IF YOU'RE BY THE FORT AND YOU'RE TRYING TO CROSS THE BRIDGE OF LIONS, THAT QUEUE EXISTING CAN GET UP TO 1,600 FEET IN LENGTH, UH, BY IMPLEMENTING THE PROPOSED INTERSECTION, IT REDUCES THAT QUEUE TO 479FT.

SO IT'S A DRASTIC REDUCTION IN, UM, THE QUEUING THAT BUILDS UP.

SAME THING WITH NORTHBOUND.

SO NORTHBOUND IS IF YOU'RE HEADING FROM, UM, OC WHITES AND GOING NORTH.

SO THAT'S TAKING A 455 FOOT QUEUE AND REDUCING IT TO 91FT.

UH, EASTBOUND IS IF YOU'RE COMING FROM KING STREET AND CROSSING THE BRIDGE OF LIONS, THAT'S GOING FROM 218FT TO 113FT.

AND THEN WESTBOUND, UH, IS WHEN YOU'RE CROSSING THE BRIDGE, IF YOU'RE ON THE ISLAND, COMING ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND EITHER GOING TO CITY HALL OR TO THE FORT, IT'S REDUCING THAT QUEUE FROM 903FT TO 235FT.

BUT THIS IS REALLY, UH.

WHAT IT REALLY DOES IS IT REALLY, THE PROPOSED DESIGN REALLY ALLEVIATES THOSE QUEUES THAT BUILD UP AFTER THE BRIDGE OF LIONS GOES UP.

IT BRINGS EVERYTHING TO A HALT.

AND THEN WHEN IT, WHEN IT REOPENS, UH, YOU HAVE THE RECOVERY TIMES ARE DRASTICALLY REDUCED.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, A RECOVERY TIME? THAT MEANS WHEN THE BRIDGE GOES UP THE QUEUE, THAT BUILDS UP.

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR THAT QUEUE TO DISSIPATE WHEN THE BRIDGE GOES BACK DOWN? AND IN THE EXISTING CONDITIONS DURING THIS AFTERNOON, THREE HOUR PERIOD, UH, WHICH IS A PEAK TIME, WE HAVE NO RECOVERY CONDITIONS, MEANING THERE'S SOMEBODY IN THE QUEUE THAT IS GETTING THE BRIDGE IS GOING UP AGAIN BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY CROSS THE BRIDGE OF LIONS.

SO WE HAD THREE NO RECOVERY CONDITIONS AND EXISTING CONDITIONS.

AND PROPOSED DESIGN IT TAKES THOSE AND ALLEVIATES QUEUES IN ABOUT SOUTHBOUND APPROACH FIVE MINUTES, EASTBOUND THREE MINUTES, NORTHBOUND SIX MINUTES AND WESTBOUND THREE MINUTES.

SO AGAIN THAT WHAT THAT'S DOING IS ALL OF THOSE QUEUES THAT ARE BUILDING UP, UH, IT CLEARS THEM OUT AND THE INTERSECTION ROAD GETS FUNCTIONING NORMAL AGAIN.

UH, AND I DO WANT TO JUST PUT A NOTE IN HERE.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID TRY TO DO WAS MODIFY THE BRIDGE SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW? SO HOW DO WE GET ALL THE WAY TO THIS POINT? ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DID WAS REACH OUT TO THE COAST GUARD, AND WE HAD A WHOLE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROCESS TO MODIFY THE BRIDGE SCHEDULE, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN GET THE BRIDGE TO OPEN LESS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE INTERSECTION FUNCTIONS PRETTY WELL.

UH, THAT DID NOT WORK OUT.

THE COAST GUARD DID NOT, UH, SIDE WITH THE CITY AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

SO THAT WAS ONE THING WE TRIED TO DO.

THE NEXT THING WE DID DO IS WE LOOKED AT OUR OWN COMMERCIAL VESSELS WITH THE BRIDGE OF LIONS.

UH, AND WE FOUND THAT OUR OWN COMMERCIAL VESSELS WERE ACTUALLY CAUSING A LOT OF OPENINGS DURING PEAK TIMES.

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SO WE MODIFIED THEIR SCHEDULE.

SO WE HAVE DONE THOSE TWO THINGS, UM, LEADING UP TO THIS.

AGAIN FROM THE DOTS PRESENTATION.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN AVERAGE 70%, UH, QUEUE LENGTH REDUCTION, UH, IN THE SOUTHBOUND FOR NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND.

THAT'S A PRETTY BIG, UH, IMPROVEMENT.

AND IT ELIMINATES THOSE LONG QUEUE LINES THAT FORM UP.

SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? UM, WE ARE GOING TO NEED, NOT TONIGHT, BUT IN THE FUTURE.

SOME DISCUSSION OR DECISION ON HOW, UH, DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE INTERSECTION AS PROPOSED, UH, OR DO WE WANT TO GO BACK AND TALK TO DOT, UM, ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO? IT IS IN THE AGREEMENT.

SO I THINK IF WE IF WE CHOOSE TO KEEP IT AS IS EXISTING, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO MAYBE MODIFY OR AMEND THE AGREEMENT AS SUCH.

UM, AND OUR PLAN WORKSHOP, I WAS PLANNING TO, UH, GET SOME MORE PUBLIC INPUT ON THE INTERSECTION DESIGN.

UH, THE OTHER THING THAT, UH, IS UNKNOWN TO ME IS, UH, SHIPPO.

AND HOW THAT BASE, THAT PARK, UM, IS PERCEIVED IN THE EYES OF OUR STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.

SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO GET SOME INPUT, UH, FROM SHIPPO ON THAT.

UH, BUT PLANNING GOING INTO THE FEBRUARY 20TH, UH, WORKSHOP WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, IS SHOW THESE PROPOSALS AND EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC HOW THIS INTERSECTION, WHAT CONCEPT THAT WE CAN DO ON CATHEDRAL.

YOU KNOW, WHAT THE INTERSECTION, HOW IT RELATES TO CATHEDRAL AND KING STREET.

UH, AND THEN BRING THAT BACK TO THE COMMISSION, UH, AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THE CONCEPTS FOR THE STREET DESIGN AND THEN ALSO THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, AND AGAIN, IF WE CHOOSE TO STAY EXISTING, THAT'S THAT'S FINE AS WELL.

UH, THERE WAS JUST AN AGREEMENT THAT DOT WAS GOING TO DO, UH, THESE IMPROVEMENTS, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD THAT PUBLIC MEETING.

THEY DO HAVE A DESIGN TEAM ON BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD.

BUT, UM, IT IS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, SO SO THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE ON BOARD, UM, AS WELL.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

MAYOR. UM, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE UM, PRIOR THE PLAN PRIOR TO OUR FINAL S UBMISSION THAT YOU PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC? THIS IS THE CONCEPT THAT WAS IN THE AGREEMENT.

OKAY. AND IS THAT THE ONE JUST BEFORE THE FINAL? THIS SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT WAS IN THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

THIS IS THEY'VE TWEAKED IT FROM THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN THAT WAS IN THE AGREEMENT TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT.

YEAH. FOR TRAFFIC THROUGHPUT.

WELL I WOULD CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE.

YEAH OKAY.

TO ME THAT'S MUCH MORE ELEGANT.

I DON'T KNOW, HOW DID THEY DO THE NUMBERS ON THAT, ON HOW QUICKLY IT, YOU KNOW, BREAKS DOWN THE QUEUING.

AND DID THEY DO THAT ON THIS ONE? YEAH, THIS HAS SIMILAR MODELING.

AND I HAVE HAD THAT DISCUSSION OF, HEY, WHAT COULD WE GO BACK TO WHAT WAS IN THE SOMETHING MORE SIMILAR TO THE CONCEPT? BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF I GO FORWARD, IT, YOU KNOW, THE THE THROUGH LINE KIND OF BREAKS UP THAT GREEN AREA.

RIGHT. UM, AND ALSO WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING BY THE LIONS AS WELL INCLUDED.

UM, THIS ALSO HAS A SIDEWALK THAT'S KIND OF INTERNAL UH TO THE THING.

I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE THAT OUT AND JUST HAVE PEDESTRIANS STAY ON THE, UH, PERIMETER.

RIGHT. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THIS IS SIMPLER, MORE ELEGANT.

UH, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, NUMBER ONE, LET'S NOT GO TO SHIPPO UNTIL WE FINALIZE WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO DO.

OKAY? ALL OF US.

UM, I NOTICED THAT WE'RE NOT, UM, REALLY USING ANY OF THE SLIP LANES THAT ARE NEAR THE MONUMENTS.

THEY'RE KEPT JUST AS THEY ARE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S INFORMATION WE GAVE TO DOT THAT WE HAD TO KEEP THOSE SLIP LANES.

IF WE DON'T, THAT MAY GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY.

UM, AND IN THIS CONCEPT, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE SLIP LANE WAS TURNED.

THE GREEN, UH, POND CIRCLE SLIP LANE WAS TURNED INTO MORE GREEN SPACE.

YEAH, I LIKE THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ACTUALLY REVISIT.

AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS CAN WE PROVIDE MORE GREEN SPACE? RIGHT. BECAUSE THOSE SLIP LANES RIGHT NOW ARE USED FOR MAINLY COMMERCIAL LOADING, UM, AREAS.

UM, BUT THERE'S ONE FURTHER WEST THERE THAT CAN BE USED FOR LOADING EARLY MORNINGS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

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THE ONE BE CLOSER TO THE PLAZA.

YES. ON THE CHARLOTTE STREET.

YES WE COULD.

IT'S REDUNDANT, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

THE SLIP LANES SEEM REDUNDANT TO ME.

RIGHT. AND I THINK IT WOULD MAKE FOR A NICER PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE CROSSING OVER.

EXACTLY. CONNECTING KING TO CATHEDRAL.

AND. AND NOW THEY'RE WALKING ON A LITTLE.

TINY LITTLE. YEAH.

THERE'S A GOAT PATH THROUGH THERE.

NOW THAT'S GRASS WON'T GROW ON, SO.

YEAH. SO. BUT ANYWAY, UM.

BUT I I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ONE.

AND BUT TO ME, I MEAN, THAT OPEN GREEN AREA IN ALL CASES IS BETTER.

YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO A SCULPTURE THERE.

YOU COULD DO SOMETHING REALLY EXCITING THERE.

UM. IT'S JUST SIMPLER.

SO WHILE WE'RE ON THE MAP, MAY I ASK THE QUESTION THIS THIS HAS TWO TRAFFIC LIGHTS.

CORRECT. AND THE OTHER OPTION HAS THREE? FOUR. UH.

FOUR. THEY'RE ALL IN UM SYNCHRONIZED TOGETHER.

SO THIS THIS ONE HAS A LITTLE MORE DETAIL THAN THAN THIS ONE HAS.

FOR INSTANCE, THIS PEDESTRIAN CROSSING DOWN HERE MIGHT HAVE A LIGHT ON IT.

BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THEY'RE SIMPLIFYING THE INTERSECTION AS FAR AS YOUR PHASING GOES.

SO THEY'RE ABLE TO ALLOCATE MORE GREEN TIME IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS WITH THIS DESIGN.

EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE MORE LIGHTS? YES. WELL, FROM EXISTING I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S MORE LIGHTS OR NOT, BUT UM, I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GRAPHIC, IT LOOKS LIKE, OH MAN, THEY'RE PUTTING WAY MORE LIGHTS.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S NOT.

WELL, I THINK THE ONE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, THE SECOND ONE ADDS ONE LIGHT AND THIS ONE KEEPS THEM THE SAME.

YEAH. AND THAT'S THAT SO.

UP HERE THEY'RE SHOWING A PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL, SIGNALIZED PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AND THIS ONE, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SHOWN ON HERE.

BUT IF WE MOVE FORWARD, IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO SAY, OKAY, WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THIS CONCEPT HERE, THEN MORE DETAIL WILL WILL COME OUT.

ARE YOU FINISHED? UM, COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD SO LET'S LET'S FINISH HERE, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE AROUND THE TABLE.

I WOULD SAY YES.

WE NEED SOMETHING AT THE LIONS AS A CROSSWALK.

I MEAN IT'S JUST NOT REALISTIC.

THEY'RE DODGING OUT THERE NOW YOU KNOW.

SO THAT'S DEFINITELY, UM, IMPORTANT.

UM. YEAH.

LET'S SEE, THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE.

I TALKED ABOUT, UH.

OKAY, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.

OKAY? ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD.

WELL, YEAH. AND I WANT TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE WHO MADE COMMENTS AND CAME TO THE MEETINGS.

THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE GET SOME REALLY GOOD INFORMATION AND SOME FUN THINGS TO READ.

UH, BUT THERE WERE SOME GREAT COMMENTS, AND ONE OF THEM WAS THAT WAS ONE THAT I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT, WHICH WOULD BE VERY CONTROVERSIAL, AND THAT IS TO MOVE A-1A OUT TO US-1 LIKE THEY DID AT SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH.

UH, THAT THAT MAY REDUCE SOME PEOPLE JUST DRIVING THROUGH TOWN THAT DON'T KNOW THEIR WAY AROUND YEAH, BUT ALSO AFTER AFTER READING A BOOK THAT I GOT ON CITY PLANNING, YOU MAKE AN EIGHT LANE HIGHWAY, YOU'RE GOING TO FILL UP AN EIGHT LANE HIGHWAY.

SO IF WE SHORTEN THE LINE, MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME TO THE LINE IS MY FEAR.

YOU HAD THE SAME NUMBER OF CARS IN THE MODEL WHERE THOSE PEOPLE WHO NOW LIVE ON THE ISLAND WHO SAY, LOOK, I'VE GOT TO GO TO JACKSONVILLE.

I'M GOING 312, EVEN THOUGH THE 312 INTERSECTION IS JUST AS BAD.

THEY MAY NOW START SCOOTING THROUGH TOWN, SO I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT MAKING IT BETTER AND THEN INCREASING THE NUMBER OF CARS.

THAT'S ONE THING I DON'T THINK THEY CONSIDERED IN THEIR MODEL, WHICH WE OUGHT TO HAVE.

UM, AND ALSO THE CARS THAT ARE COMING EAST ON KING STREET TO GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE.

BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONE LANE NOW.

THAT COULD BACK UP PAST SAINT GEORGE STREET.

SO THE THE ONE THING WE HAVE IDENTIFIED IN THE DESIGN IS KING STREET HAS TO REMAIN TWO LANES EASTBOUND.

IT DOES HAVE TWO. IT HAS TWO.

YEAH. BECAUSE OF THE QUEUING.

UM, UH, KING WE DID LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE WE HAD LOOKED EVENTUALLY IN THIS CONCEPT, YOU CAN SEE.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DID COME OUT BECAUSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THIS INTERSECTION IS INTEGRALLY TIED TO OUR STREET DESIGNS.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE DOT IS COMFORTABLE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT WAS, WE DEFINITELY NEED TWO LANES EASTBOUND ON KING, BUT NOT ON CATHEDRAL, BUT NOT ON CATHEDRAL.

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OKAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I REMEMBERED MY QUESTION.

MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH AND IT HAD SOME OF THE COMMENTS.

UM. THE SIGNAGE IS NOT REALLY ADDRESSED HERE, BUT SOME OF THE COMMENTS, MAYBE THEY SHOWED SOMETHING IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT THE COMMENTS I HEARD TODAY WERE THEY WERE LIKE BELONGED ON 95.

THE SIGNAGE WAS HUGE, YOU KNOW, AND SOME OF THE WRITING WAS VERY SMALL, BUT THEY WERE HUGE.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT GOES WELL WITH OUR CITY.

I MEAN, WE WERE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT OUR WOOD SIGNS AND OUR, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KEEP IT LOOKING LIKE OLD SAINT AUGUSTINE.

AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE SOMETHING THEY PUT ON 95 IN THIS INTERSECTION, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THAT.

SO MAYBE, UM, YOU COULD UPDATE US ON THAT, BUT OR GIVE THEM THAT COMMENT.

YES. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WELL LET'S GO AROUND THE TABLE AND HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY HAS TO SAY BECAUSE I'M SURE WE'LL ADD MORE.

COMMISSIONER BLONDER.

UH, WELL, WE'VE GOT THE MAP UP, SO I HAVE SEVERAL POINTS.

UM, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, WHETHER WE HAVE A FORMAL CROSSING OR NOT, PEDESTRIANS ARE GOING TO AS AS THE VICE MAYOR SAID, ARE GOING TO CROSS AT THE BRIDGE AT THE LIONS.

UM, WAS THERE ANY MODELING DONE ABOUT A SIGNALIZED CROSSING THERE AND HOW THAT WILL IMPACT TRAFFIC FLOW AS PEOPLE MOVE ACROSS? AND IS IT AN ON DEMAND, UM, SIGNALIZED CROSSING? BECAUSE IT'LL HAVE TO BE IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO USE IT.

SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, IMPACT FLOW SO I CAN BRING THAT BACK.

I DID FOLLOW UP WITH, UM, FDOT UH, THEY HAVE PUT, UH, THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING IN, UM, AND THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT FROM A MODEL STANDPOINT.

NOW, IT DOES, UH, DECREASE THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT CAN GO THROUGH.

BUT, UM, BASICALLY, UM, FROM WHAT I HEARD IS THAT THAT THAT WAS WE WERE GOING TO INCORPORATE THAT OR IT WASN'T GOING TO BE WE WEREN'T GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

SO, UM, NOW AS FAR AS IT BEING SIGNALIZED, I THIS IS AN ASSUMPTION OF MINE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE TIED TO THE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ON DEMAND SIGNAL.

IT'S GOING TO BE TIED TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION.

I'D STILL LIKE TO SEE THAT MODELED.

OKAY. UM, AND HOW THAT IMPACTS FLOW, IF IT DOES AT ALL.

I'M JUST MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THAT IT WILL.

UM, I THE SECOND POINT I ECHO, UM, COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD'S, UM, UH, POINTS ABOUT YOU BUILD IT, THEY'LL COME.

UM, THAT'S THE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH ROADS.

IF THEY BECOME MORE EFFICIENT, THEY BECOME MORE CLOGGED AS A RESULT.

UM, THE THIRD THING IS, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY, I KNOW STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS REALLY HARD.

WE'VE HAD CONSULTANTS WORKING ON IT, DOT, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT.

UM, HAVING LIVED THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] UM, THE PEANUT, UH, AND USING IT EITHER AS A PEDESTRIAN OR CYCLIST OR A DRIVER IN A VEHICLE FOR AS LONG AS IT'S BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND BEFORE THAT, AND NOW CURRENTLY, UM, EVEN PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COUNTY AND REGULARLY TRAVERSE IT ONCE A MONTH OR WHATEVER STILL GET CONFUSED.

UM, THE PRETZEL LOOKS EVEN MORE CONFUSING TO ME, AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT BECAUSE THE CONCENTRATION OF TOURISTS IS IS REALLY ALL DOWNTOWN.

I MEAN, THE REALLY HIGH CONCENTRATION THAT'S GOING TO BECOME AN ISSUE IN TERMS OF CONFUSION AND IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC FLOW.

UM, JUST HOW COMPLICATED THAT, UM, THAT WHOLE DESIGN IS, WHETHER IT'S THIS WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE PEANUT IN A LOT OF WAYS, OR THE PRETZEL, WHICH IS EVEN MORE COMPLICATED. FIFTH POINT, I REALLY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE TIMING OF ALL OF THESE, REGARDLESS OF THE DESIGN.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER THE US-1 CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO TAKE.

IT'S BEEN A NIGHTMARE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS NOW.

IT DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE AN END IN SIGHT, BUT IT IS, UM, IT IS CAUSING A LOT OF, UM, PROBLEMS IN A LOT OF WAYS.

UM, SO THAT'S ONGOING AND THAT'S IN TWO DIFFERENT SPOTS ON US-1, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF UM, OF KING STREET.

THEN WE HAVE THE KING STREET BRIDGE, WHICH IS, I MEAN, THE SAN SEBASTIAN BRIDGE ON KING STREET, WHICH IS SET FOR INITIATING CONSTRUCTION IN THIS SUMMER, THIS SUMMER.

SO I WANT TO KNOW HOW LONG AT THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, BECAUSE CLEARLY US-1 SEEMS TO BE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, AND WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHEN THE END DATE OF THAT IS.

WHAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO FOR HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO DEAL WITH THE SAN SEBASTIAN BRIDGE ON KING STREET? AND THEN THIRDLY, WHEN WOULD THE CONSTRUCTION BE SLATED TO BEGIN AT THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE OF LIONS? AND WOULD IT OVERLAP WITH ALL THREE OF THESE THINGS? AND HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE? BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE HAVE, I CAN SAY I PERSONALLY AM AT MY LIMIT.

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UM, YOU KNOW, UM, AS LITTLE AS I TRY TO USE A CAR, UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, I'M AT MY LIMIT AND I'M NOT RUNNING A BUSINESS AND TRYING TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B, UM, YOU KNOW, MANY TIMES A DAY.

UH, SO I JUST HAVE GREAT RESERVATIONS ABOUT INITIATING THIS PROJECT BEFORE THESE OTHER PROJECTS HAVE CEASED CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

ARE YOU SURE? I'M POSITIVE FOR THIS ONE, FOR THIS POINT.

AND IF, UM, IF MR. FRANKLIN WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON ANY OF THAT, I'D WELCOME.

UH, THE SCHEDULE. QUESTIONS ABOUT SCHEDULE ARE GREAT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND A LOT OF UPCOMING PROJECTS.

UH, I WENT TO THIS SLIDE BECAUSE I DID PROVIDE KIND OF THE TENTATIVE SCHEDULE.

SO THE RED IS GOING TO BE WRAPPING UP HERE.

THAT'S THE DRAINAGE PROJECT WHERE WE HAD THE MOT IN PLACE FOR, UH, A FEW WEEKS THERE.

UM, THE BLUE IS THE BRIDGE PROJECT THAT IS SLATED TO START THIS SUMMER.

UM, I BELIEVE THE CLOSURE IS SLATED FOR 12 MONTHS, AND THE TOTAL PROJECT MAYBE, UM, 12 TO 18 MONTHS.

UH, THE NEXT SO RED IS GOING TO BE DONE.

BLUE STARTS THIS SUMMER.

IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SLATED FOR 2027-2028.

UM AND THEN AFTER WE FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING TO DO THAT WITH THE INTERSECTION, WE HAVE SOME TIME FOR THE CITY TO START CONSTRUCTION ON CATHEDRAL AND KING.

SO THAT WAS GOING TO BE IN THAT 2029 TO 2033 REALM.

WE HAVE TO HAVE IT DONE BY, BY, UH, 2023.

SO IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WHAT YOU'VE GOT THERE IS MAYBE A BREAK, A COUPLE YEAR BREAK, AND THEN MAYBE ANOTHER YEAR BREAK IN BETWEEN.

YEAH. AND I CAN BRING THIS.

THEY'RE NOT, LIKE, ALL JAMMED UP ON EACH OTHER.

RIGHT. AND PROBABLY THE CITY'S ONE WE'RE GOING TO DO IN A PHASED APPROACH.

SO IT'S NOT THE ENTIRE PROJECT ALL AT ONE TIME.

MHM. UH, CATHEDRAL AND THEN THE NEXT SECTION OF KING AND THEN PROBABLY UM CATHEDRAL AND THEN KING AROUND THE PLAZA AND THEN PROBABLY CORDOVA TO MALAGA ARE THE DIFFERENT PHASES.

OKAY. YEAH. SO, SO IF I COULD JUST FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE TIMELINES OR TIMELINES AND UM, AND THOSE ARE ESTIMATES.

AND SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT ONE ONE HAS TO BE FINISHED BEFORE THE NEXT ONE STARTS.

IF WE HAVE A HURRICANE OR WHATEVER ELSE MIGHT HAPPEN.

UM, WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CLAUSE IN THERE THAT THAT ENSURES THAT THEY'RE NOT DOUBLING UP ON EACH OTHER.

GOOD POINT.

UM, COMMISSIONER GARRIS.

WELL, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE DESIGNS, IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GREAT THING THAT'S COMING UP.

BUT, UM, THAT MAY STREET CIRCLE, I MEAN, I DIDN'T GO THAT WAY FOR YEARS BEFORE I FELT COMFORTABLE DOING IT.

SO NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BRIDGE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE ISLAND THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TRAVEL OVER THAT BRIDGE.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE LIKE 4, 4 OR 5 LIGHTS IN THAT LITTLE INTERSECTION, AND YOU SEE PEOPLE ON EVERY PERIMETER TRYING TO CROSS THE STREET.

SO IF YOU DECREASE THAT, UM, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PROBABLY RUN TO THESE ISLANDS TO TRY TO GET ACROSS THE STREET, AND THAT MIGHT BECOME A PEDESTRIAN NIGHTMARE.

UM, SO I'M ANXIOUS TO SEE IT BECAUSE, I MEAN, LOOKING AT IT FROM A MAP POINT OF VIEW, IT'S NOT LIKE ACTUALLY RIDING THROUGH IT.

I MEAN, WE CAN DO LIKE THE LITTLE COLORS AND STUFF, BUT THAT'S NOT LIKE ACTUALLY DRIVING IT.

SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK WE MIGHT NEED TO DO A SITE THING TO KIND OF GET THE PROJECTION ON WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST NOT DOING IT FOR ME.

I MEAN, I WANT TO SEE WHERE THESE CROSSWALKS ARE GOING TO BE SO I CAN SEE IF I WAS A PERSON TRYING TO CROSS OVER WHERE THOSE CROSSWALKS ARE GOING TO BE.

SO, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE YOU OR THE CITY MANAGER CAN TAKE ME OUT THERE SO I CAN SEE ON THE GROUND WHERE THESE CROSSWALKS AND THE DIFFERENT DESIGNS ARE GOING TO BE.

SO I CAN ENVISION IT IN MY HEAD.

SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE DIALING IN AND EMAILING LIKE THEY'RE DOING ALREADY ABOUT THIS WHOLE DESIGN, I CAN PUT A VISUAL ACTUALLY WITH IT BESIDES LOOKING AT THESE PICTURES.

AND I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO OUT THERE WITH YOU.

THANKS. GREAT.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE NOT REALLY BEING ASKED TO APPROVE OR DENY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THEY REALLY JUST WANTED OUR INPUT FOR TONIGHT TO MOVE IT ON TO THE NEXT BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS.

SO BUT I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE TO ADD IS I'VE GOTTEN THE SAME INPUT ABOUT LET'S ELIMINATE CARS DOWNTOWN, LET'S BYPASS TRAFFIC AROUND TOWN.

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AND THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED MANY TIMES OVER, MANY, MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS.

UM, AND IT'S NOT WITHOUT MERIT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WITHOUT MERIT.

BUT I WILL BE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT.

UM, THE LATENT TRAFFIC ISSUE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC LATENCY, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TRAFFIC WAITING TO JUMP INTO THAT, YOU KNOW, OPEN CAPACITY.

ABSOLUTELY. ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO PROBABLY JUST BRING MORE CARS.

IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BRING MORE CARS.

YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S MORE EFFICIENT.

IT'S DEFINITELY MORE EFFICIENT.

AND WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

DO WE WANT TO BE WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO TRADE FOR MORE EFFICIENCY OR ARE WE OKAY WITH IT THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW? SO THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I'M ASKING MYSELF.

UM, I, UM I WONDER WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU WANT TO BRING.

I'M QUESTIONING CATHEDRAL PLACE.

I KNOW THAT WE TALKED FOR A LONG TIME ABOUT ONE LANE THERE, AND THEN THE ABILITY TO, UH, CLOSE IT OFF FOR PEDESTRIANS ONLY FOR FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, FOR THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO IN THE PLAZA.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S MOVING MORE TOWARDS A EUROPEAN CITY TO WHAT WE REALLY ARE TO OUR ROOTS, TO OUR BONES.

UM, SO I'M REALLY INTRIGUED BY THAT AND THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.

SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.

YOU KNOW, THOSE BENEFITS.

AND DO YOU NEED TO INTERRUPT.

I JUST THOUGHT THAT YOU SAID WE HAD TO HAVE TWO LANES GOING EAST ON KING STREET.

I'M TALKING ABOUT CATHEDRAL.

NO, I KNOW, BUT WE DO.

I THINK WHAT MAYOR IS TALKING ABOUT IS DURING SPECIAL EVENTS, WE CAN.

WE CAN REVERSE THE LANE ON KING.

OH I SEE OKAY.

YEAH OKAY, I ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. RIGHT. SO WE DON'T INSTEAD OF, UM.

WHAT IS IT? ONE WAY PAIR.

WHAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A ONE WAY PAIR.

CORRECT. ON KING, AND WE WANT TO CONVERT.

WE COULD GO TWO WAY.

UM, AND IF WE CLOSE KING STREET, I MEAN, NOT CATHEDRAL, THAT CATHEDRAL SECTION.

BECAUSE REMEMBER, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE PLANNING ON BREAKING IT, YOU KNOW, DOING PAVERS OR WHATEVER TO MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE AND LESS ASPHALT AND MORE HISTORIC.

SO THERE'S SOME I THINK THERE'S SOME REALLY INTRIGUING CONCEPTS HERE WITH THIS.

I'VE ALWAYS LOVED THAT.

YES. AND SO BUT AGAIN, BACK TO I SWEAR, YOU JUST SAID A LITTLE WHILE AGO WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO LANES GOING EAST.

SO EITHER WE HAVE TWO ON KING STREET GOING EAST OR WE HAVE.

ONE GOING EAST ON CATHEDRAL.

THERE'S THERE'S TWO CONCEPTS.

OKAY. UM, WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO LANES EASTBOUND ON KING STREET.

OKAY. UH, ONE CONCEPT IS THAT YOU WOULD YOU COULD ELIMINATE THE PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF KING STREET AND HAVE A LANE GOING WESTBOUND.

YEAH, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRENDING TOWARDS IS TO JUST DURING SPECIAL EVENTS TO BE ABLE TO DIVERT TRAFFIC AND TWO WAY KING STREET DURING SPECIAL EVENTS, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO.

WE DO CURRENTLY FOR NIGHTS OF LIGHTS AND THINGS.

SO BUT YEAH, DURING NORMAL OPERATING CONDITIONS WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO LANES EASTBOUND ON NORMAL.

SO UM, RIGHT, SO I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T MAKE THAT CLEAR.

SO UM, SO AND I'M ALSO VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE HUMAN SCALE OF THE SIGNAGE.

THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNAGE.

WE HAVE GUIDELINES FOR OUR DOWNTOWN, UM, ON WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT LOOK WHAT I SAW ON THE DRAWINGS AND WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME WAS THEY'RE NOT HUMAN SCALE.

AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THAT WE HAVE THAT VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T FIT IN A DOT BOX.

WHATEVER THEY DO, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TAILORED TO WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE.

AND I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT THE SHIPPO HAS TO SAY.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SHAVING OFF PART OF THAT, UM, PARK.

BUT, UM, SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.

I HAVE HEARD SOME OTHER CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY.

UM, I'VE HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH SIGNAGE, TRAFFIC FLOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, NOT A LOT OF INPUT.

I THINK IT'S I APPRECIATE THAT THE DOTS BEEN DOING AS MUCH INPUT TAKING AS THEY HAVE.

THEY'RE TAKING A LOT OF HEAT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS THE SAME THING WHEN, UM, UP AT MAY STREET AND SAN MARCO AND NOW THE RESIDENTS, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HATED IT.

THEY LOOKED AT A PICTURE AND THEY SAID, AH, THAT LOOKS SO SCARY.

THAT'S SO TERRIBLE. IT'LL NEVER WORK.

IT'S CRAZY. IT'S IT'S A ROUNDABOUT.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK IT'S A ROUNDABOUT, EVEN TO THIS DAY.

THEY THINK IT'S A ROUNDABOUT.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE UP IN VILANO THAT I TALK TO ME SAY WE REALLY LIKE IT.

ACTUALLY, DURING DURING PEAK TIME DURING DECEMBER, I GOT COMPLAINTS FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AT VILANO THAT THEY COULD NOT, UM, THAT PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO GET TO

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THEIR RESTAURANTS TO GET TO THEIR RESERVATIONS.

THEY LOST A BUNCH OF TABLES BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD NOT GET, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC WAS BACKED UP PAST THE PEANUT, UM, AND NORTH OF THE PEANUT.

AND SO NOBODY COULD TURN EAST.

RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT AT ALL PERFECT.

IT'S NOT PERFECT. BUT I DON'T THINK I SAID THAT, SO.

YEAH. NO, YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT AT ALL.

NO. AND I AND I WILL GO OKAY.

SO I'D LIKE TO GO BACK IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

WHEN THE DOT CAME IN AND TALKED ABOUT THE MAIN STREET SAN MARCO INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, UM, THEY SAID SPECIFICALLY WHEN KING STREET IS BACKED UP ALL THE WAY TO THAT INTERSECTION, NOTHING'S GOING TO MOVE.

SO THAT THEY NEVER CLAIMED THAT IT WOULD ALWAYS PERFECTLY WORK.

WE KNOW WHEN ONCE KING STREET GETS THAT FAR BACKED UP, IT'S EVERYTHING'S JAMMED.

SO. BUT NO IT'S NOT NO, IT'S NOT PERFECT.

BUT I'M SAYING THE REACTION BY THE COMMUNITY WAS THE SAME.

THE COMMUNITY SAID AH, PULLING THEIR HAIR OUT.

SO, UM, UNTIL WE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO KIND OF REALLY SETTLE DOWN AND LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS? SO AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M TRYING TO GET TO.

AND I WORRY ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION FATIGUE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN THAT BEFORE.

THE REASON WE'RE DOING KING STREET THIS LATE IS BECAUSE IT WAS CALLED OFF BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY CALLED.

YOU WERE ON THE COMMISSION.

YEAH. RIGHT THE CONTRACTOR ACTUALLY HAD HAD THEIR EQUIPMENT DEPLOYED.

[INAUDIBLE] DEPLOYED.

YEP. ON THE GROUND READY TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION.

AND IT WAS THE BUSINESSES SAID NO, WE'RE TIRED OF ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION AND IT GOT CALLED OFF.

SO I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

SO WE HAVE TO BE REMEMBER THAT.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING AT.

UM, I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU RAN THOSE NUMBERS FOR ME ON THE YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH PAVEMENT IN THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

I'D LIKE TO SEE A LOT LESS PAVEMENT, A LOT MORE GREEN.

SO THAT'S, UM, REALLY NICE TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, A THIRD OF AN ACRE.

I'LL TAKE IT.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO WEIGH, UM, WHEN THE TIME COMES, BUT, UM.

I SAY KEEP GOING.

TELL US MORE.

TELL US MORE. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE.

SO ONCE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC, UH, MEETING ON FEBRUARY 20TH, WE'LL GET THAT INPUT.

WE'LL SHARE THIS CONCEPT AND HOW IT INTEGRATES IN WITH CATHEDRAL.

AND THEN WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO THE COMMISSION OR MAYBE I'LL SPEAK TO THE CITY MANAGER.

MAYBE IT'S A WORK. MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO WORKSHOP.

OKAY. YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT, MAYBE WORKSHOP.

YEAH, SURE.

THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT.

GOOD PRESENTATION.

UM, ONE THING REUBEN DOES HAVE IS A LOT OF PATIENCE, SO THAT'S GREAT.

WE APPRECIATE THE PATIENCE.

[10.B. Public Works quarterly update. (T. Grant, Director Public Works)]

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, IT'S MR. GRANT ON THE PUBLIC WORKS QUARTERLY UPDATE.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

LET ME JUST START THIS.

AS THE SLIDE SHOWS MY NAME IS TODD GRANT.

I'M THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

THIS IS A QUARTERLY UPDATE, ALTHOUGH IT'S BEEN ABOUT SIX MONTHS AS WE TRANSITIONED WITH THE NEW DIVISIONS.

GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA AS YOU CAN SEE, I'VE TOUCHED UPON, OR WE'RE GOING TO TOUCH UPON JUST ABOUT ALL THE DIVISIONS WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF STREETS AND GROUNDS.

I'VE ADDED YOU HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL UPDATES JUST TO SHOW WHAT IS TRANSITIONING OUT OF ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE AND MOVING OVER TO THE SUSTAINABILITY SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

SO ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION IS THAT IN PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS, WE'VE ADDED ALL OF THE RESILIENCY, UM, BACKUP MATERIAL.

I TOOK THAT OUT UM, BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO THE RESILIENCY WEB PAGE, YOU'RE, YOU CAN, UM, ACCESS ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.

UM, ONE THING I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY IS, UM, JESSICA BEACH AND CAITLIN SERGEANT ARE INCREDIBLE.

UM, WORKING WITH THEM, TWO PEOPLE TAKING ON THIS DIVISION AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY HAVE, UM, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE TRULY APPRECIATED FOR THE LEVEL OF EFFORT.

UM, I'M ALWAYS IMPRESSED WITH EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO.

UM, ALSO, A LOT OF THESE SLIDES ARE BUSY, SO I'M NOT GOING TO READ EVERYTHING ON THE SLIDES.

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UM, IN FUTURE PRESENTATIONS, YOU MAY SEE THAT IT GETS WHITTLED DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

UM, AND LASTLY, NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU LOOK AT A PRESENTATION, UH, IT'S THE DAY OF AND YOU FIND A TYPO.

SO I'VE GOT ONE IN THERE UM, BUT TOWARDS THE END.

SO LET'S START WITH RESILIENCY.

UM, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON WITH RESILIENCY, AS YOU KNOW.

SO, UH, CAITLIN AND JESSICA PUT TOGETHER THIS, UM, PROGRAM OR THE RESILIENCY REVIEW.

IT'S BEEN VERY POPULAR.

IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE OVER 700 SUBSCRIBERS.

UM, THE LAST ONE CAME OUT IN DECEMBER, UM, MID DECEMBER.

AND IT TOUCHES UPON EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THE RESILIENCY DIVISION.

AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE FLOOD MITIGATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE.

UM IN 2022, THERE'S OVER 80 APPLICATIONS, UH, ASKING FOR OVER $12 MILLION IN FUNDING.

AND AT THIS POINT, IT'S, UM, FUNDING IS LIKELY.

UM, WE'VE GOTTEN BACK THROUGH THE FEMA FURTHER REVIEW, AND IN 23 WE ADDED TEN MORE, UM, ASKING FOR A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION.

AND SO HOPEFULLY THOSE FUNDS WILL BE APPROVED IN 24-25.

THESE NEXT SLIDES WILL KIND OF SHOW YOU WHERE THOSE PROPERTIES ARE.

SO YOU CAN SEE IN 2022, UM, A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS THAT APPLIED, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE IN THE LOCATIONS THAT WE TYPICALLY HAVE FLOODING. SOUTH DAVIS SHORES, NORTH DAVIS SHORES, DOWNTOWN, UH, AND NORTH CITY.

AND IN 2023, YOU CAN SEE THE TEN PROPERTIES MORE IN SOUTH DAVIS SHORES AND A FEW MORE IN NORTH CITY.

UM, THE REGIONAL COLLABORATION.

UM, THIS TAKES A LOT OF TIME FOR JESSICA.

UM WE'RE STARTING.

WE BASICALLY HAVE TO TRACK OUR TIME FOR THE THE GRANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALLOCATING, UM, OUR IN-KIND SIDE OF IT.

AND SO THIS REGIONAL COLLABORATION.

UM, IT TAKES A LOT OF HER TIME.

UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

IT'S YOU'VE GOT THE WHAT IS IT, SEVEN COUNTIES THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THIS.

AND THE OUTCOME HOPEFULLY IN 2024 IS THIS RESILIENCY REGIONAL RESILIENCY ACTION PLAN.

UM, SO THAT WILL BE HELPFUL FOR THE ENTIRE NORTHEAST FLORIDA.

UM, SEVEN COUNTIES TO ACTUALLY HAVE A COLLABORATION AND A PARTNERSHIP ON MAYBE SOME REGIONAL SCALE RATHER THAN JUST LOCAL.

ALSO, YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM.

I THINK WITH THE ADDITIONAL THE ADDITION OF THE FLOODPLAIN MANAGER.

UM, SOME OF THE RESILIENCY OFFICERS, UM, INPUT ON THIS MAY, MAY LIGHTEN UP.

UM, BUT THAT'S, UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM, UH, IN OUR FLOOD INSURANCE, UH, WE'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY TO CONTINUE TO SCORE HIGH, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE OUR POINTS EVERY YEAR.

SO THIS SLIDE IS KIND OF SHOWING YOU, UM, ALL OF OUR EFFORTS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE SEVEN PROJECTS WITH A HARD DEADLINE OF 2026.

UM, THOSE ARE ALL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOUTH WHITNEY.

UM, IN PROGRESS.

SO, UM, THE INLET DRIVE, SHORELINE STABILIZATION.

WE HAVE SELECTED A CONSULTANT FOR THAT.

UM, WE'RE FINALIZING THE SCOPE OF WORK.

UM, AS FAR AS SHORELINE DESIGN, UM, ESTIMATED COSTS.

UM, THE SOUTH DAVIS SHORES FLOOD MITIGATION AND DRAINAGE.

WE'VE AWARDED THAT TO A CONSULTANT AS WELL.

AND SO WE HAVE FINALIZED THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THE CONTRACT.

AND SO WORK WILL BE STARTING ON THAT PROJECT.

UH [INAUDIBLE] WE ARE ABOUT TO HAVE OUR 30% DESIGN REVIEW.

UH, THE BACKFLOW PREVENTION IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT ONE'S ABOUT TO KICK OFF AS WELL.

WE ALSO AWARDED A CONTRACT TO THE CONSULTANT FOR THE GROUNDWATER MONITORING NETWORK.

SO WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON, A LOT UNDER CONTRACT AND MOVING INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OR STUDY PHASE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WHEN WE GET TO STUDIES, UM, WE HAVE THE COASTAL VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT.

UM, THAT'S BASICALLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNTY AND THE BEACH.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT COMPLETED, UM, IN MARCH.

AND THAT'S AN UPDATE TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAD.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE BACK BAY FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT IS ONGOING.

AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE BACK BAY, THERE'S A LIST OF THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

ALSO WITH THIS, WE'VE HAD TO DO A VISUAL RESOURCE ASSESSMENT PROCEDURE, WHICH IS A VRAP.

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UM, THAT WAS KIND OF A CURVEBALL THROWN AT US, BUT IT WAS A LESSON LEARNED FROM CHARLESTON.

UM, SO AMY SKINNER AND I HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN ON THAT TASK RATHER THAN ADDING TO JESSICA AND CAITLIN'S PLATE.

UM, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN IN-PERSON TEAM MEETING ON THE 23RD TO GO OVER THE VIEWSHEDS.

UM, THE VRAP HAS TO BE DONE PRIOR TO THE ARMY CORPS BACK BAY STUDY BEING COMPLETED.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I DO, MADAM MAYOR, IS THAT OKAY? UM, THE SEAWALL PROJECT THAT THE.

UM. IS THAT THE CORE? I HAVE IT ON MY PHONE. WE HAVE A SEAWALL PROJECT AS WELL.

BUT. YEAH, BUT THE ONE THAT'S COMING UP WITH THE PUBLIC MEETING.

UM. IT'S DOT. THAT'S RIGHT.

UM, IS THAT WRAPPED INTO THIS VIEW SHED? UH, IN ANY WAY.

IS THAT CONNECTED? THE ARMY CORPS WILL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ANY CURRENT OR FUTURE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DONE, WHETHER IT IS A RESILIENCY, FLOOD MITIGATION, OR IT'S JUST REPLACING SOMETHING IN KIND.

THANK YOU. SO THE VRAP THOUGH IT NEEDS TO BE CONDUCTED PRIOR TO, UM, THE BACK BAY STUDY BEING COMPLETED AND THEN GIVING US RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO THEY MAY RECOMMEND OUT OF THIS STUDY THAT WE PUT A NINE FOOT CONCRETE WALL IN FRONT OF THE BAY FRONT.

SO BY HAVING THE VISUAL RESOURCE ASSESSMENT DONE.

WE CAN THEN SAY, WELL, CAN WE MAKE THAT A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY AND HAVE IT VISUALLY, YOU KNOW, MORE ACCEPTABLE.

AND BY HAVING THE VRAP DONE, IT HELPS MITIGATE US HAVING TO PAY THE FULL COST OF ENHANCING THAT, THAT SOLUTION.

SO THAT WILL BE DONE PRIOR TO AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE BACK BAY STUDY.

AS I ALLUDED TO BEFORE, UM, DOING THE UPDATE ON THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT, UM, THAT ONE WHERE, UM, THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETED VERY SOON.

WE HAD A MEETING HERE.

WE HAVE GOT OUR NEXT MEETING SCHEDULED IN JANUARY.

UM, WE'VE HAD INPUT FROM LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL PARTICIPANTS.

IT WAS A WELL ATTENDED MEETING BACK IN NOVEMBER.

AND WE'RE ALSO DOING AN UPDATE TO THE ADAPTATION PLAN OUT OF THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT.

IT GOES HAND IN HAND THAT YOU UPDATE YOUR ADAPTATION PLAN.

NEW STUDIES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH GOING ON ALREADY.

UM, SO THE COMMISSION APPROVED $50,000 FROM RESERVES.

WE HAVE A CONSULTANT, UM, UNDER CONTRACT FOR THE FULLERWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD DRAINAGE.

UM, THEIR SCOPE OF WORK WE JUST FINALIZED.

AND SO WE WILL HAVE A KICKOFF MEETING TO GET THAT STUDY UNDER UNDERWAY.

AND SO THIS ONE WE CAN ADD IN THERE.

UM, THE, THE BOLD ONES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, THE NON BOLD ONES THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED OR ARE CLOSE TO BEING COMPLETED.

ONE THAT'S MISSING ON HERE IS THE GROUNDWATER MONITORING PROJECT.

IF I MAY, COULD YOU GO BACK, PLEASE? UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT NOT JUST THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU'RE OUTLINING WITH A VERY SMALL STAFF.

UM, BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT THERE'S ALMOST $70 MILLION.

MHM. UM, THAT THE CITY IS SPENDING ON RESILIENCE PROJECTS, 83% OF WHICH ARE GRANT FUNDED.

SO KUDOS.

WELL DONE. WE ARE AT CAPACITY ON GRANT UH, ADMINISTRATION.

LAKE MARIA SANCHEZ SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST.

UM, I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH THAT THIS IS AN EXTREMELY COMPLEX PROJECT.

UM, THIS PROJECT WITH THE OTHERS.

UM, THERE MAY BE A PERCEPTION THAT THINGS ARE NOT MOVING AS QUICKLY AS SOME WOULD LIKE, BUT THEY ARE MOVING.

UM, I MEET WITH JESSICA AND CAITLIN SOMETIMES 2 OR 3 TIMES A WEEK, TO GO OVER THE VARIOUS PROJECTS AND GETTING THEM OVER THE HUMP, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE.

UM, FOR THE LAKE MARIA SANCHEZ PROJECT, IT WAS BETTER TO SEPARATE THEM INTO TWO PARTS.

SO THE FIRST PART BEING, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO GRANADA FROM KING TO BRIDGE STREET, CORDOVA STREET FROM KING STREET DOWN TO FRANCIS STREET, AND THEN ALSO BRIDGE STREET BETWEEN GRANADA AND CORDOVA.

SO WE HAVE THOSE THOSE PLANS ARE SEPARATED OUT.

UH, THINGS ARE TRYING TO FINALIZE AS FAR AS OUR KIND OF PUNCH OUT LIST IS WITH THE OTHER UTILITIES, FINDING LOCATIONS FOR PAD MOUNTED TRANSFORMERS, UH, ON GRANADA AND CORDOVA SO THAT WE CAN COMPLETE THE UNDERGROUNDING OF UTILITIES.

UM, WE HAVE GOTTEN THE CONDUIT CROSSINGS FROM FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, AND NOW I AM TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY

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OWNERS LOCATIONS OF THOSE TRANSFORMERS BECAUSE FLORIDA POWER LIGHT, WHICH I CAN UNDERSTAND, DOESN'T WANT THEM WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK THEM TO MOVE IT AT A LATER TIME.

SO I AM OPTIMISTIC THAT WE CAN GET PHASE ONE OUT ON THE STREET TO GET, UM, BIDS AND A CONTRACTOR FOR THAT WITHIN THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN PHASE TWO, UM, IS MOVING FORWARD.

UH, THAT HAS BEEN MODIFIED, CHANGED, UM, RE MANGLED.

AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE FINALIZING THE APPRAISALS FOR EACH OF THE EASEMENTS THAT WE NEED.

AS YOU KNOW, AS THE SLIDE SHOWS, THE CONNOR PROPERTY IS NOW, UH, VACANT.

AND SO WE ARE FINISHING UP WITH THE APPRAISALS.

UM, OOPS. I WENT TOO FAR.

ONCE WE HAVE THOSE, WE CAN THEN FORMALLY GO TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

UM, AND TRY TO GET THOSE FINALIZED.

WE'RE ALSO HAVING TO MODIFY THE DESIGN TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL BULKHEAD ON THE WEST SIDE GOING DOWN TOWARDS EDDIE VICKERS PARK.

UM, BASED ON ELEVATIONS AND WHERE YOU TIE IN, IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO, TO END IT AT THAT LOCATION.

SO WE'RE WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO GET PHASE ONE OUT THE DOOR AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE THEN GOING TO FINALIZE PHASE TWO.

AGAIN, THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING ON IN RESILIENCY.

UM, THIS COULD BE A FULL TIME JOB ON ITS OWN.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH THOSE THOSE NOODLES AHEAD THE BEST WE CAN.

PHASE ONE, UM, THAT YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED WILL ADD WATER TO MARIA SANCHEZ LAKE, CORRECT.

BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.

IF WE'RE PUTTING UNDERGROUND, CAPTURING THE WATER THAT'S FLOODING THE STREETS.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE DREDGING IN PHASE ONE, MARIA SANCHEZ LAKE TO ACCEPT MORE WATER? I CAN'T DEFINITIVELY ANSWER THAT.

BUT FROM A CAPACITY STANDPOINT, EVEN IF WE DREDGED 20FT DEEP INTO LAKE MARIA SANCHEZ, IT'S NOT ADDING CAPACITY AS FAR AS THE ELEVATION GOES. SO DOING THE IMPROVEMENTS IS GOING TO UPSIZE THE STORM WATER SYSTEM AND ACTUALLY IMPROVE DRAINAGE WITHOUT WEIR SYSTEM DUMPING IT INTO THE LAKE AS AN END POINT WITH THAT WEIR WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE OR CONTRIBUTE TO FLOODING IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

WITH THE EXISTING WEIRS STILL WORKING.

YES THEY ARE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. I WAS THINKING THEY WEREN'T.

DURING THE RECENT KING TIDES, WE ACTUALLY HAD THEM OPENED UP TO LOWER THE LAKE IN ANTICIPATION OF HEAVY RAINS.

THEY HAVE TO BE MANUALLY OPEN AND CLOSED, BUT THEY DO WORK.

MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

WERE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, NO.

PLEASE CONTINUE I HAVE A COMMENT WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED.

OKAY. UM, SO, AS YOU MAY RECALL, UH, WE WERE APPROVED TO HIRE A SUSTAINABILITY SPECIALIST.

UH, ELIZABETH LIZ JOHNSON.

SHE STARTED ON NOVEMBER 23RD.

UM, WE'VE HAD SOME HOLIDAYS IN THERE, SO SHE HASN'T BEEN ON STAFF FOR VERY LONG, BUT WE'VE DONE WE'VE DONE A LOT.

UM, WE MEET TWICE A WEEK CURRENTLY.

UM, TO GO AHEAD AND STRATEGIZE AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE APPROACHING, UM, SUSTAINABILITY, SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AND HOW WE WANT TO, UH, MOVE THAT PROGRAM FORWARD SINCE IT'S A BRAND NEW POSITION FOR THE CITY.

UM, IT'S KIND OF A WORK IN PROGRESS.

SO, UM AS YOU CAN SEE, SHE HAS ALREADY REACHED OUT TO REPRESENTATIVES OF EVERY DEPARTMENT AND DIVISION WITHIN THE CITY.

SO WE CAN, UM, RESTART OUR INTERNAL SUSTAINABILITY.

EXCUSE ME. SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.

WE HAD A PLAN THAT WAS COMPLETED.

UM, SOME OF THE THINGS IN THERE AS FAR AS PROGRAMS OR INITIATIVES ARE OUTDATED.

AND SO WE ARE BRINGING THE REPRESENTATIVES TOGETHER THIS MONTH, UH, TO BASICALLY INTRODUCE ALL OF OURSELVES THE PURPOSE OF THE INTERNAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, GOALS, OBJECTIVES, UM, WHAT TYPES GET INPUT FROM THE INDIVIDUALS OF MAYBE SOME THINGS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND WE'RE UPDATING THE THE MASSIVE SPREADSHEET THAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS UPDATING IT TO TODAY'S NEEDS.

THAT'S HAPPENING UM, THIS MONTH, UM, THAT'S WE ALSO HAVE A TOOL TO HELP TRACK OUR CITY'S CARBON FOOTPRINT.

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UM, SO SHE WILL BE STARTING TO WORK ON OTHER FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY JUST TO CALCULATE, UM, THAT AND A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP THAT BETWEEN WHEN I SUBMITTED THIS FOR THE DEADLINE AND TODAY, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME THINGS THAT CHANGED.

ONE THING, WE'RE WORKING WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT AT THE PARKING GARAGE.

UM, INITIALLY WHEN WE CONTACTED THEM, THEIR PROGRAM, SOLAR VANTAGE, IS A TURNKEY, UM, PRODUCT.

THEY BASICALLY WILL DESIGN, PERMIT AND BUILD A SOLAR FACILITY AND MAINTAIN IT FOR TEN YEARS PER AN AGREEMENT THAT WE PAY A MONTHLY FEE FOR. SO THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION, YES, REGULATES POWER COMPANIES.

AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE A NET METERING, THEY CAN ONLY PRODUCE 115% OF THE POWER THAT THAT FACILITY OR METER CONSUMES.

SO THE INITIAL DESIGN WE WERE PRODUCING MUCH MORE THAN THE PARKING GARAGE ACTUALLY CONSUMES.

SO WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.

WE GAVE FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT THE ACCOUNT FOR THE PARKING GARAGE, THE ACCOUNT FOR THE VISITOR'S INFORMATION CENTER.

WE ALSO GAVE THEM THE ACCOUNT FOR THE DENTAL BUILDING AND ALSO FOR FRANCIS FIELD.

AND SO THEY'RE PACKAGING ALL THAT TOGETHER TO DETERMINE WHAT 115% IS, AND THEN DESIGNING A SOLAR CANOPY ON TOP OF THE FOURTH FLOOR. RIGHT, COULD I ASK? I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IS SO AMAZING AND I'M SO PROUD OF YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR SO LONG, SO.

WE HAVEN'T DONE IT YET.

AND THAT'S YES, IT'S PRETTY COOL.

VERY GOOD. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE NET METERING LIMITATION.

IT'S 115%? YES, MA'AM. OF THE POWER GENERATED? NO, IT'S 115% OF WHAT THE FACILITY CONSUMES OR USES.

OKAY. SO THEY CAN'T PRODUCE MORE THAN 115%.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YEAH.

YEAH. SO I GUESS I'M SAYING IT WRONG OR WE'RE SAYING IT THE SAME, SAME THING IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

UM, THAT'S THEIR OWN IMPOSED CAP.

THAT'S THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION THAT REGULATES THAT.

YEAH. AND THAT FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN A POLICY ISSUE, UM, IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE FOR SOME TIME NOW IN TERMS OF UM, REGULATING NET METERING, UM, DOWNWARD.

SO OUT OF THIS, THE INTEREST, I MEAN, TO ME, ANOTHER POSITIVE IS WORKING WITH THE INDIVIDUAL FOR FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT.

HE'S REALLY EXCITED FROM A MESSAGING STANDPOINT WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT COME THROUGH THE PARKING GARAGE AND THE VISITOR'S INFORMATION CENTER FOR THERE TO BE A PARTNERSHIP KIND OF KIOSK INFORMATION OF SAYING YOU ARE IN A FACILITY THAT IS CARBON NEUTRAL OR NET NEUTRAL ON ENERGY CONSUMPTION.

SO OUT OF THIS, THE PARKING GARAGE, VISITOR'S INFORMATION CENTER AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT DRAWS ELECTRICITY IN THAT AREA, THAT'S A CITY ACCOUNT, UM, WILL BASICALLY BE PRODUCING AS MUCH ENERGY AS IT CONSUMES, RIGHT? YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

THAT'S I JUST WISH WE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE COULD PRODUCE EVEN MORE.

CORRECT. THEY WON'T LET US DO THAT.

WELL, THE INITIAL, UM, LET ME JUST SEE IF I HAVE IT.

THE INITIAL PROPOSAL HAD THE GARAGE, WHICH WE BASICALLY MAXIMIZED THE FOOTPRINT BUT KEPT IT UNDER HARD VISUAL GUIDELINES AND HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.

WE WERE GOING TO PRODUCE 1.1, YEAH, 1.1GW OF ENERGY.

THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE WE CONSUME THAT MUCH, RIGHT? WHICH IS THE POINT.

SO THE POINT I'M JUST USING THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO FOR EDUCATION.

THE POINT IS, IS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY BE SAVING THE TAXPAYERS MONEY BY HAVING AN INCREASE IN THE CAP ON NET METERING, BECAUSE WE WOULD BE SELLING ELECTRICITY BACK TO FPL.

CORRECT. AND IN TALKING WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, THE WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH THIS ONE IS THAT IF THAT CHANGES, IT IS SCALABLE.

GREAT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ALSO LOOK AT THE ANGLES OKAY.

AS FAR AS TO MAXIMIZE THE SUNLIGHT.

SO WE WOULD START IN A LOCATION WHERE WE COULD ADD IF WE NEEDED TO.

THAT'S GREAT. WELL DONE.

THANK YOU. WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TO CHARGING STATIONS FOR ELECTRICAL VEHICLES BEING ADDED TO THE PARKING GARAGE TO CONSUME SOME OF THAT? NO. UM, I'M WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE THEIR LEVEL OF COMFORT WITH CHARGING STATIONS INSIDE A PARKING GARAGE.

UM, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO ACCESS, UM, THE RISERS FOR ANY FIRE IF THE SOLAR SYSTEM SOLAR ARRAY ITSELF WOULD NOT BE A FIRE HAZARD, BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WORKING WITH THEM AND THEIR COMFORT LEVEL OF LOCATING THEM TOWARDS THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING SO THEY COULD ACCESS

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IT. WELL, QUESTION WOULD IT BE PERIMETER? THE PERIMETER OF THE ROOF? WE HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT THAT.

SO, I MEAN, WHEN YOU TALK TO OUR, UH, OUR FIRST FLOOR PERIMETER.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS ON THE FIRST FLOOR ON THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING SO THEY COULD ACCESS IT WITH THEIR TRUCKS IF NEEDED.

THEY DON'T. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO IN THE GARAGE AND GO TO THE TOP.

THEY CAN'T GO. THEY THEY CAN'T ENTER THE GARAGE CURRENTLY WITH THEIR TRUCKS.

RIGHT. OKAY.

OKAY. SO ON THE CHARGING STATIONS, WE'RE ALSO TALKING WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, UM, TO INCREASE AND REPLACE THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE CITY.

UM, AND SO THAT THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE.

YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO THE OTHER ITEM THAT'S NOT ON HERE IS THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.

THEY RECEIVED A CLIMATE POLLUTION REDUCTION GRANT FOR $1 MILLION FOR THE PLANNING.

UM, JUST TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN.

AND IT WAS A SHORT FUSE AS FAR AS PUTTING TOGETHER A SURVEY THAT THEY ASKED FOR WITH INITIATIVES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED ON. AND SO WE ACTUALLY, UH, LIZ AND I FINISHED THAT UP THIS MORNING.

IT WAS DUE THIS AFTERNOON.

THAT IS FOR IT'S A MULTI COUNTY, UM, COLLABORATION UH, SPEARHEADED BY JACKSONVILLE.

AND SO WE PROPOSED THE PARKING GARAGE AND A FEW OTHER UM PROJECTS FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION INTO THE PLAN.

NOW, IF THAT GETS APPROVED, WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT PHASE OF FULL GRANT FUNDING THROUGH THE EPA SO THAT THAT'S DEVELOPED BETWEEN THE DUE DATE FOR THIS PRESENTATION AND TODAY.

SO AMERICA RECYCLES DAY EVENT.

IT WAS PHENOMENAL.

IT WAS OUR BEST SHOWING EVER.

UM, I DIDN'T PUT THE PICTURE IN HERE, BUT WE EVEN HAD A SAINT JOHNS COUNTY VEHICLE ATTEND.

THEY CAME THROUGH WITH SOME SHREDDING, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE WE'VE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, FIVE AND A HALF TONS OF PAPER, EIGHT PALLETS OF ELECTRONICS. NOW THIS YOU HAVE TO ENVISION THE BOXES THAT WE PUT ON THE PALLETS.

THEY'RE 4X4X3 HIGH.

AND SO TO HAVE EIGHT OF THOSE FILLED AT THE END OF THE EVENT, UM, IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.

SO CONTINUING ON WITH THE UPDATES, THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT HAD BEEN ORIGINALLY UNDER THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE.

UH GLABER SKIP.

SO SINCE LIZ HAS BEEN ON STAFF, SHE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH GLABER TO TAKE OVER THESE AND BRING THEM UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF SUSTAINABILITY, ALSO GIVING GLABER SOME CAPACITY OF HER OWN.

UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THE TREE CANOPY, UM, THIS YEAR'S UH.

WE HAD WE HAD A LOT OF APPLICATIONS.

WE, UM, STARTED DOWN THE PROCESS AND BY THE TIME EVERYONE WAS DONE, AS FAR AS WE'VE CHANGED OUR MIND OR, UM, TYPICALLY IT'S ONE AGREED TO IT AND THE OTHER SAID, I DON'T AGREE TO IT, BUT IN THE END WE HAVE 27 TREES THAT WILL BE INSTALLED.

AND SO THAT CONTINUES TO BE A VERY POPULAR PROGRAM.

THE MAYOR'S MONARCH PLEDGE, I WILL SAY IN FULL DISCLOSURE THAT THIS THIS ONE DIDN'T MOVE ME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

HOWEVER, I HAVE SINCE CHANGED MY THOUGHTS ON THIS.

MY MY WIFE IS CURRENTLY IN MEXICO AND WITNESSED THE MONARCH MIGRATION AND SENT ME A VIDEO AND I WAS DULY IMPRESSED.

AND SO I'M SO PLEASED TO HEAR THAT.

SO WE'RE NOT THAT I DIDN'T LIKE IT, I JUST IT'S JUST IT'S ONE OF MANY THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.

AND SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE MAYOR'S MONARCH PLEDGE.

UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE DOING, UM, AGAIN, TRYING TO AND WE'VE BUDGETED FOR IS TO ROLL OUT AGAIN THE RESIDENTIAL COMPOST BIN. UM, WE HAD A DIP IN, IN, UH, PUTTING THOSE OUT.

AND SO WE HAVE BUDGETED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AGAIN TO HAVE 50 UM, RESIDENTS GET A COMPOST BIN.

THE OTHER THING THAT, UM, LIZ HAS PURSUED AND WE'RE MEETING WITH A COMPANY IS FOR COMMERCIAL ORGANIC WASTE REDUCTION.

UM, WE ALSO PUT THAT IN THE JACKSONVILLE SURVEY AS A PILOT PROGRAM THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FULL FUNDING FOR, TO DO A PILOT PROGRAM ON COMMERCIAL DOWNTOWN ORGANIC WASTE COLLECTION, IF I MIGHT.

THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING, BECAUSE METHANE IS ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS GREENHOUSE GASES, SO THAT WILL HELP A LOT.

REDUCTION OF METHANE PRODUCTION.

THANK YOU. AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, EVERYONE'S EXCITED ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS, OLIVIA IN SOLID WASTE.

SO THIS JUST SHOWS YOU, BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, THE AMOUNT OF RECYCLING THAT WE'VE DIVERTED FROM, UH, THE LANDFILLS, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN 2023 LOANS, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, OVER 2,000 TONS.

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WHAT'S MOST IMPRESSIVE FOR ME IS THE THE GLASS DROP OFF.

UM, IT WAS A SLOW START.

UM, I WAS HONESTLY PESSIMISTIC BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF CONTAMINATION THAT FIRST STARTED OFF.

BUT IT HAS GOTTEN MUCH, MUCH BETTER.

UM, IT USED TO TAKE US SIX WEEKS TO FILL UP A 20 YARD ROLL OFF, AND OUR THE PARTNER STRATEGIC MATERIALS WAS, UM, BECOMING CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY, THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT THE VOLUME IS THERE ON A CERTAIN TIME FRAME.

WE PARTNERED WITH SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH.

WE HAVE A LOCATION OUT AT THEIR CITY HALL.

AND THEN WE ALSO EXPANDED NOT ONLY SINGLE STREAM RECYCLING, BUT WE ADDED A GLASS DROP OFF AT 30 PELLISIER LANE.

SO YEAR TO DATE, 26 TONS, 52,000 POUNDS HAS BEEN DIVERTED.

I WILL TELL YOU NOW WE ARE FILLING UP THE 20 YARD ROLL OFF IN 2 TO 3 WEEKS AND WE ARE CONSIDERING HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE OF ACTUALLY HAULING IT OURSELVES AND POTENTIALLY SEEING A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY BROUGHT BACK TO THE CITY.

IT'S NOT MONUMENTAL.

UM, BUT IT MAY BE, UM, AT LEAST SIGNIFICANT.

AND THEY'RE VERY PROUD OF THIS.

UM, OUR PRESSURE WASHING STAFF USED TO USE A BOX TRUCK, A DOLLY AND MOVE THINGS AROUND.

AND SO, UH, WITH THE USE OF THE ARPA MONEY AS WELL AS AN INTERNAL LOAN, THIS IS THEIR NEW PRESSURE WASHING TRUCK.

IT WILL IT ALLOWS THEM TO ACTUALLY GO UP AND DOWN SAINT GEORGE STREET.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT SERVICES.

UM, AND THEY'RE VERY PROUD OF THIS.

THERE'S WENT OUT AND TOOK A GLAMOR SHOT AT NIGHTS OF LIGHTS.

SO AS I SAID, THERE'S ALWAYS ONE TYPO AND I FOUND IT.

WE HAD A CHRISTMAS [INAUDIBLE] UM, IT SHOULD BE PARADE.

I SPELLED IT CORRECTLY, UH, BELOW, BUT YOU CAN SEE NIGHTS OF LIGHTS.

THAT IS THE SHUTTLING.

THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR THE THE PARTICULAR DAYS.

UM, THE STAR CIRCULATOR KIND OF MIMICS OUR OUR TOURISM CYCLE.

I DON'T HAVE THE DECEMBER NUMBERS YET, BECAUSE BY THE TIME I SUBMITTED THIS, UM, IT WAS BACK IN DECEMBER.

UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE JULY, AUGUST, UH, HIGH USERSHIP AFTER LABOR DAY, IT GOES DOWN.

OCTOBER STARTING TO KICK BACK UP.

SO I IMAGINE BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE PARKING GARAGE WAS CLOSING TWICE DAILY, ALMOST, UH, BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR'S, THAT WE'LL SEE THE DECEMBER, UH, RIDERSHIP, UH, GO, YOU KNOW, BE A HIGH NUMBER.

AND ALSO THE STAR CIRCULATOR HAS GONE BACK TO THE 10 P.M., UM, DROP OFF OR STOP TIME.

AND SO THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

WONDERFUL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? THAT'S A LOT TO START.

UM, I DO HAVE A COMMENT.

UM, AGAIN, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE SOLAR GARAGE AND ANY MOVEMENT TOWARDS A SOLAR GARAGE AND CERTAINLY WOULD GIVE FPL THE VISIBILITY. I MEAN, WE COULD JUST REALLY GIVE SOME GREAT VISIBILITY FOR THEM.

ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THAT IS THERE'S AN INVESTMENT TAX CREDIT THAT COMES ALONG WHEN YOU DO A SOLAR PROJECT.

AND SO I WILL HAVE THAT NUMBER BASED ON THAT INITIAL, UM, MAXIMIZATION OF THE ROOFTOP.

WE WOULD HAVE SEEN AN $850,000 INVESTMENT TAX CREDIT COME BACK TO THE CITY.

AND THAT'S THAT'S MONEY THAT CAN GO TO PAY DOWN THE, THE INVESTMENT IN THAT.

AND SO THOSE PROJECTS WORKING WITH FPL COULD, COULD END UP REDUCING THE OVERALL COST TREMENDOUSLY.

OKAY. AND THEN ONE COMMENT, JUST A HEADS UP MOVING FORWARD.

WE'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT FROM THE FORT MOSÉ GARDENS COMMUNITY ON FLOODING PROBLEMS, UM, DRAINAGE, DRAINAGE AND FLOODING PROBLEMS. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IN THE FUTURE.

AND IT'S NOT REALLY A BIG ITEM OF DISCUSSION FOR TONIGHT, BUT, UM, THEY CERTAINLY HAVE A POINT.

THEY HAVE RED WATER, SHOCKINGLY.

UM, WE STILL HAVE RED WATER IN THE CITY, AND I THINK THAT'S THE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD MAYBE THAT'S LEFT THAT HAS RED WATER.

UM, AND SO, UM, I THINK AS FAR AS, BUT THAT'S MAYBE NOT YOUR PURVIEW, BUT WE WILL BE I WILL BE COMING FORWARD AND ASKING ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE THAT WE GET THAT INTO THE QUEUE.

OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DON'T USUALLY HEAR FROM THEM, BUT WE'RE HEARING A LOT FROM THEM NOW, SO.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT THEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE UPDATE.

WAS VERY GOOD JOB.

GREAT JOB. APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING.

UM, OKAY.

ITEMS BY CITY ATTORNEY GEORGE CARTER.

I HAVE NOTHING.

OH, SORRY. IT'S COMING, IT'S COMING.

[01:50:01]

OKAY. UM. CITY CITY ATTORNEY, MISS.

CITY ATTORNEY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I HAVE NOTHING, NOTHING.

OKAY. CITY CLERK.

I HAVE NOTHING, NOTHING CITY CLERK.

[13. ITEMS BY CITY MANAGER]

CITY MANAGER.

I DO HAVE SOME THINGS.

OKAY. I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT TOMORROW'S CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD MEETING HAS BEEN CANCELED DUE TO WEATHER.

AND WE WILL BE HAVING A WEATHER UPDATE EARLY TOMORROW MORNING TO SEE WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CLOSE CITY HALL TOMORROW, LATE AFTERNOON OR NOT.

THAT'S PENDING. I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE TO THE COMMUNITY THE OUR NEW FINANCE DIRECTOR.

HER NAME IS SUE WONG. I THINK YOU'VE ALL MET HER INDIVIDUALLY.

SHE'S A WONDERFUL PERSON.

SHE COMES TO US FROM GAINESVILLE, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT HAVING MISS WONG ON OUR STAFF AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HER.

UH, SHE'S OUR NEW FINANCE DIRECTOR.

YEAH. AND FINALLY, I DO NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT'S COME UP LATELY.

BUT AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY CITY COMMISSION MEETING, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN INVOCATION.

AND WE INVITE RELIGIOUS LEADERS FROM ALL FAITHS TO SAY A PRAYER OR A BLESSING TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND WE DON'T DENY ANYONE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE AN INVOCATION BASED ON THEIR RELIGIOUS FAITH.

NOR DO WE TELL THE SPEAKERS WHAT THEY CAN OR CAN'T SAY DURING THEIR INVOCATION, OTHER THAN THAT IT HAS TO BE DIRECTED TOWARDS THE WORK OF THE CITY COMMISSION. UH, THE CITY GOVERNMENT HAS NEVER ENDORSED A PARTICULAR FAITH OR RELIGIOUS BELIEF THROUGH THE INVOCATION. BUT THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH A RELIGIOUS INVOCATION BEFORE OUR CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS.

BECAUSE THEY FEEL A PRAYER BEFORE A GOVERNMENT MEETING CAN MAKE THOSE WHO HAVE DIFFERENT BELIEFS OR FAITHS UNCOMFORTABLE.

AND THIS HAS LATELY BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

AND WE HAVE NEVER INTENDED TO MAKE ANYONE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE OR UNWELCOME.

UH, OUR SOCIETY DOES HAVE A CLEAR SEPARATION BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE.

AND THE CITY GOVERNMENT RESPECTS AND COMPLIES WITH THIS PRINCIPLE.

OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH PRAYING BEFORE PUBLIC MEETINGS, AND HAVE ADOPTED A MOMENT OF SILENCE. A MOMENT OF SILENCE WITHOUT COMMENTARY ALLOWS FOR EVERYONE TO PARTICIPATE EQUALLY AND TO SHARE A PEACEFUL MOMENT.

AND IN A SENSE, IT PROVIDES A CALM AND CONTEMPLATIVE BEGINNING FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE B EFORE THE CITY BUSINESS STARTS.

SO I'M RAISING THE QUESTION.

HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT CHANGING THE INVOCATION INTO A MOMENT OF SILENCE? WELL, NORMALLY WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE READY TO SPEAK.

UM COMMISSIONER GARRIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT? WE'LL START AT YOUR END OF THE TABLE.

WE'LL LET YOU ESTABLISH THE GROUNDWORK.

WELL, I'M A VERY SPIRITUAL PERSON, AND, UM, IT BOTHERS ME THAT, UM T HAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO FROM PRAYER TO A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

BUT BASED ON THE OTHER INFORMATION THAT I HEARD ABOUT THIS COMING BEFORE THE COMMISSION, I UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS BEING SUGGESTED.

UM, THE FUNNY THING IS, UM, I REMEMBER WHEN THEY TOOK PRAYER OUT OF SCHOOL.

AND, YOU KNOW, AFTER THAT, SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN GETTING SHOT UP.

BUT ANYWAY, UM, IT JUST BRINGS ME TO THE REALIZATION SOMEONE WROTE, EVERY TIME A CHILD TAKES A STUDENT TAKES A TEST IN SCHOOL. BELIEVE ME, THEY'RE PRAYING BEFORE THEY GET THAT TEST, THAT THEY PASS IT.

SO EVEN IF WE CAN'T, UM HAVE A PASTOR COME BEFORE US IN PRAYER.

I EVEN REMEMBER BEFORE EVEN GETTING ON THE COMMISSION, BEING BLESSED TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND PRAYING.

UM, IT DISTURBS ME, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY WE MIGHT NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOMENT OF SILENCE.

I'LL JUST PRAY BEFORE I COME UP IN HERE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

I'M FINE WITH THE MOMENT OF SILENCE.

ALL RIGHT. I'M WITH THE MOMENT OF SILENCE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE.

SO I THINK THAT IF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY WANT TO PRAY TO THEMSELVES DURING A MOMENT OF SILENCE, I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA.

[01:55:08]

UM, AND SO I DO SUPPORT A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

YEAH, I DO TOO THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.

I, UM, WAS GOING TO REITERATE THAT THEY REMOVED PRAYER OFFICIALLY FROM SCHOOLS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PRAYING GOING ON IN SCHOOLS, AND, UH, THERE WILL STILL BE A LOT OF PRAYING GOING ON IN HERE IF WE JUST HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

AND I APPRECIATE THE MANAGER BRINGING THIS TO US IN SUCH A NICE WAY.

UM, ALL RIGHT, THEN, LET'S PREPARE A RESOLUTION OR.

YES, MA'AM, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION PREPARED.

WE DO HAVE SOMEONE ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR AN INVOCATION FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

SO WE WILL MOVE WITH THAT INVOCATION AND THEN FOLLOW THAT IMMEDIATELY WITH THE RESOLUTION CHANGING THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT THEN, UM, ITEMS BY MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

[14.A. Discussion of the request by the Greater Fullerwood Neighborhood Association for approval for it to install a plaque in honor of former Mayor George Gardner in the Herbie & Annette Wiles Park on East Park Avenue. (N. Sikes-Kline, Mayor and B. Blonder, Commissioner)]

UM, SO WE HAVE AN ITEM HERE.

UM, UH, GINA BURRELL APPROACHED ME, UM, AND I ASSUME OTHER COMMISSIONERS AS WELL.

COMMISSIONER BLONDER AND I BOTH ARE CHOSE TO ACT ON THIS, UM, TO INSTALL A PLAQUE HONORING FORMER MAYOR GEORGE GARDNER. AND, UM, HE WAS A BELOVED MAYOR, UM, OF THIS CITY.

AND THAT WAS HIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S WHERE HE WALKED HIS DOGS AND JUST, UM, LIVED WITH SALLY, HIS WIFE.

AND SO, UM, THEY REALLY LOVE HIM UP THERE.

SO, UM, WHEN GINA ASKED ME, I JUST SAID, WOULD YOU TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT, UM, THE PLOT GOING IN THE LITTLE PARK THERE THAT WE JUST RECENTLY RENAMED, UM, FOR ANOTHER NEIGHBOR? UM, THE, UM, HERBIE AND ANNETTE WILES.

UM, SO THERE'S THIS LITTLE PARK THERE, AND, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAID, ABSOLUTELY, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT.

SO IT'S WELCOME WITH OPEN ARMS. AND, UM, SO I'M JUST ASKING FOR A NOD OF APPROVAL.

UH, COMMISSIONER BLONDER AND I ARE BOTH ASKING, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GINA BURRELL AND FANS OF GEORGE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT SMALL PLAQUE.

DO I SEE NODDING? EVERY SINGLE PERSON'S NODDING.

SO VERY WONDERFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.