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[1. CALL TO ORDER]
THIS SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION IS CALLED TO ORDER.MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> WE HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS.
IS ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK? IF YOU ARE WELCOME TO STEP TO THE PODIUM AND FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD EITHER NOW OR AFTER YOU SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK? HEARING NO ONE, SEEING NO ONE, THIS PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PROGRAM PRESENTATION.
[3. LAND CONSERVATION PROGRAM PRESENTATION]
MR. FRANKLIN, GOOD AFTERNOON AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO PRESENT. [NOISE]>> GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COMMISSIONERS.
REUBEN FRANKLIN, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
WE HAVE OUR LONG-AWAITED WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS LAND CONSERVATION.
PRIOR TO THIS DATE, WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF TO PUT TOGETHER AN AGENDA FOR THE WORKSHOP, SO FEEL FREE AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
WE DO WANT IT TO BE WORKSHOP LIKE AND THE END RESULT WOULD BE WITH INPUT FROM YOU TODAY.
IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROGRAM WE'LL TAKE EVERYTHING THAT WE HEAR TODAY AND PUT MORE OF A FORMAL OUTLINE OF A PROGRAM TOGETHER AND BRING THAT BACK FOR FUTURE COMMISSION, WHETHER IT'S IN ANOTHER WORKSHOP OR JUST AT A CITY COMMISSION MEETING STAFF PRESENTATION.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AN INTRODUCTION AND BACKGROUND.
EXAMPLE, GOALS OF EXISTING LAND CONSERVATION PROGRAMS. WE DID TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT DOWN A PROPOSED MISSION STATEMENT AND GOALS FOR THE CITY'S PROGRAM, BUT THOSE ARE JUST DRAFT, SO FEEL FREE TO CHOP THEM UP, SLICE AND DICE THEM, ADD, DELETE.
THAT WAS JUST TO GET YOU GUYS IN THE BALLPARK.
THEN WE'LL WALK THROUGH THE PROPOSED PROCESSES.
FUNDING, WEBSITE COMMUNICATIONS, AND OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE WILL BE AT THE TAIL END.
THEN FROM THERE WE'LL GO ONTO NEXT STEPS.
A LITTLE BIT OF INTRODUCTION AND BACKGROUND.
WHILE WE'RE HERE, OUR COMP PLAN HAS MANY DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT TIE TO THIS PROGRAM OR THE REASONS WHY THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD CREATE THIS PROGRAM, BUT I JUST LEFT THE ONE POLICY UP HERE THAT SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO IT.
I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE CAN GO BACK AND CREATE MORE ROBUST POLICY TIES TO THE PROGRAM.
THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE HOW IT ALL CONNECTS.
BUT THIS ONE WAS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
POLICY 1.7.1, THE CITY SHALL SEEK TO INCREASE ITS CONSERVATION AREAS THROUGH LAND ACQUISITION, WHEN POSSIBLE, INCENTIVES FOR PRODUCTIVE EASEMENTS AND OTHER APPROPRIATE PERMANENT PROTECTIVE MECHANISMS TO ENSURE THE PRESERVATION OF NATURAL COMMUNITIES AND LISTED ANIMAL SPECIES HABITAT.
IT GOT ME THINKING, SO I WANTED TO GIVE A BRIEF HISTORY OF RECENT ACQUISITIONS, LAND ACQUISITIONS THAT THE CITY HAS DONE IN THE PAST UNTIL WE WENT BACK TO 2010.
I THINK WE HAVE A COMMENT FROM COMMISSIONER BLONDER.
NOT EVERYBODY, AND I'M NOT SPEAKING ABOUT ANY OF YOU ALL OR IF ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM IN PARTICULAR, BUT JUST FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD, A LISTED SPECIES IS ONE THAT IS THREATENED WITH EXTINCTION ESSENTIALLY.
VARIOUS LEVELS OF THREATENED WITH REDUCTIONS IN POPULATION SIZES AND SO FORTH, JUST SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS BECAUSE IT CAN BE CONFUSING. THANK YOU.
>> JUST TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THIS BACK TO THE ZORA NEALE HURSTON PARK ACQUISITION THAT WAS A CORNER PARCEL IN THE CORNER OF US 1 AND KING STREET.
I BELIEVE IT USED TO BE AN OLD CAR WASH. WE BOUGHT THAT AND TURNED IT INTO A PARK.
COQUINA PARK AGAIN, THAT HAD A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE.
WE ENDED UP BUYING TO CREATE A SMALL PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROVIDE FLOOD MITIGATION IMPROVEMENTS.
WE ALSO TOOK A HISTORIC STRUCTURE ON THAT AND MOVED IT OUT TO AN APPROPRIATE SITE.
FISH ISLAND PRESERVE, THAT WAS THE STATE'S PURCHASE THAT THE CITY MANAGES.
SEMINOLE DRIVE IS A RECENT ACQUISITION.
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CONNER PARK WAS THE MARIA SANCHEZ 5 SOUTH STREET PURCHASE, AND AGAIN, THAT WILL BE FOR A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD PARK THAT ALSO PROVIDES FLOOD MITIGATION.FLORIDA AVENUE, THAT IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING PURCHASED.
THE CITY COMMISSION HAS APPROVED PURCHASE OF IT.
AGAIN, THAT WAS PURCHASED FOR CONSERVATION LANDS SO IT WOULDN'T BE OVERDEVELOPED IN A VULNERABLE AREA THAT HAS FLOODING AND STORM SURGE AS WELL.
THEN THE LAST TWO ARE JUST MANAGEMENT ONES WE ARE DOING ALREADY.
STONE CUTTERS CREEK, WHICH IS THE OLD WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT SITE ON THE ISLAND.
WE HAVE A DRAFT MANAGEMENT PLAN IN PLACE AND WE ARE INQUIRING ABOUT CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ON THAT PROPERTY.
THEN JULIA'S ISLAND IS THE ISLAND OUT IN THE RIVER THAT WE HAVE A DRAFT MANAGEMENT PLAN WE'RE WORKING ON AS WELL.
THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE JB MILLER.
HE'S THE CITY'S LAND COORDINATOR MANAGER.
HE HAS A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE AND I WAS GOING TO ASK HIM TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND THEN TO TEE UP OUR PROGRAMS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. WHAT WE DID WAS, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS HOLISTICALLY AS WE COULD, WE LOOKED AT OTHER ENTITIES NEARBY SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND LOOKED AT THEIR PROGRAMS, WHAT THEIR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES WERE.
OUR IDEA WAS, WE LIKE THAT ONE, WE DON'T LIKE THIS ONE, AND THEN WE COULD PULL THOSE IN AND UTILIZE THEM; NO SENSE IN REINVENTING THE WHEEL.
SO THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF ONES THAT WERE THE MAIN ONES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY'S LAMP PROGRAM, ALACHUA COUNTY FOREVER, NASSAU COUNTY'S CLAMP PROGRAM, WHICH IS BRAND NEW, JUST UP AND RUNNING, AND OF COURSE, VOLUSIA FOREVER, WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND IN THE ZONE.
IF YOU'D WANT TO DISCUSS ANY OF THESE, ACTUALLY YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THESE THAT SHOW UP IN NEXT.
FROM THOSE, WHAT WE DID WAS WE PUT TOGETHER WE THOUGHT WOULD BE A GOOD START AT A PROPOSED MISSION STATEMENT, WHICH IS, I'M NOT GOING TO UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO, WE COULD READ THESE AND GO THROUGH THEM, BUT I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL HAD READ THESE.
BUT WE THOUGHT THAT TO ACQUIRE AND IMPROVE AND MANAGE ENVIRONMENTS, SENSITIVE LANDS THAT PROTECT WATER RESOURCES, IT'S HARD TO PUT US ALL IN, BUT WHILE IF HABITATS, NATURAL AREAS WHICH IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY'S HEALTH AND RESILIENCY, WAS JUST TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER AN AWFUL LOT IN ONE SENTENCE.
BUT IT SEEMED TO WORK AND FEEL FREE TO PUT YOUR THOUGHTS IN THERE.
IF THERE'S SOME WORDSMITHING YOU WOULD LIVE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
OUR PROPOSED GOALS, AND I GUESS I WILL GO THROUGH THESE REAL QUICKLY, IS TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE TAXPAYERS AND TO TREAT PARTNERS, LANDOWNERS, AND SELLERS WITH RESPECT.
EVEN THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT IT INTO A SELECTION MATRIX AND RANK, WE THOUGHT THAT IS ACTUALLY PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE SHOULD PUT UP FRONT.
TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE THE CITY'S NATURAL RESOURCES INCLUDING WATER QUALITY, SUPERINTENDENT SPECIFICALLY, TO BOLSTER RESILIENCY AND REDUCE LOSSES AND IMPACTS FROM FLOODS BY PRESERVING FLOODPLAINS AND VULNERABLE AREAS.
THESE ARE IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, BY THE WAY.
CONSERVE, MAINTAIN, AND RESTORE THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
TO FACILITATE ADAPTATION TO CLIMATE CHANGE, INCLUDING SEA-LEVEL RISE.
TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY-BASED PARKS AND OPEN SPACE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
TO PRESERVE ARCHAEOLOGICAL, HISTORICAL RESOURCES, INCLUDING CULTURAL LANDSCAPES, AND THEN TO PRESERVE AND MAINTAIN SCENIC LANDSCAPES AND TO ENCOURAGE A COMMUNITY LAND ETHIC.
IS NOW A GOOD TIME TO ASK FOR, MISS MAYOR, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THIS?
>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUMP IN IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE DISCUSSION STARTED.
I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE HISTORIC, ARCHAEOLOGICAL, AND CULTURAL RESOURCES FLESHED OUT A LITTLE DEEPER.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM IN THE MISSION STATEMENT.
WHERE DO I START? I FEEL LIKE THIS IS VERY WEIGHTED TOWARDS LAND, AND AT THE SAME TIME I UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS.
BUT THE CITIES THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED TO US, THESE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED US WITH, THEY'RE NOT ST. AUGUSTINE AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE INCREDIBLE DEPTH OF RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE HERE AND THUS THE INCREDIBLE NEED AND RESPONSIBILITY TO CARE FOR THEM.
WE'RE PROBABLY ISN'T ANYTHING TO TRIGGER DEFENSE.
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THERE'S PROBABLY NOT ANOTHER PROGRAM LIKE WHAT I'M ENVISIONING THAT WOULD WEIGH THE HISTORIC, CULTURAL, AND ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES ON EQUAL FOOTING WITH SENSITIVE LANDS, SO TO SPEAK.WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMISSION, I'D LIKE TO TRY AND SEE THAT HAPPEN.
>> PAN AMERICAN. CAN I RESPOND TO THAT REAL QUICK.
>> SURE. NO, I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO IT.
>> LET ME FINISH THIS THOUGHT AND THEN I WOULD WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS, OF COURSE.
IN THE CORE PLAN, WE DO HAVE OUR OBJECTIVE 9.1, WHICH IS INTEGRATE PRESERVATION INTO ALL ASPECTS OF CITY PLANNING INITIATIVES THAT MAY IMPACT CULTURAL RESOURCES IN OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, HISTORIC DISTRICT, ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES AND HERITAGE TOURISM PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES UNDER THE CITY'S STEWARDSHIPS.
MOVING ALONG THAT VEIN, THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M HEADED.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY GOAL, AS A COMMISSIONER AND AS THE MAYOR, TO MAKE SURE THAT HISTORIC PROPERTIES AND OUR HISTORIC RESOURCES GET THE SAME ATTENTION AND EFFORT AS ANYTHING ELSE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT SINCE THE BEGINNING.
I'D LIKE TO JUST SEE IT FLESHED OUT AND I THINK THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO BRING IT TO YOU.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY, I SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND THAT THERE'S GOOD MODELS AT THE STATE.
THEY DO BOTH; THE PRESERVATION AND PROTECTION OF BOTH.
>> AUTOFIBER DOES THAT CORRECT.
>> PERFECT. I THINK THAT WE COULD PROBABLY REWORK THE MISSION STATEMENT TO INCLUDE THESE ITEMS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN THE MISSION STATEMENT.
LIKE I TOLD DAVID BERTRAM THAT I FELT LIKE, WELL, EVEN THE TITLE, SO TO SPEAK, OF THE PROGRAM IMPLIES LAND ACQUISITION PROGRAM AND LAND CONSERVATION PROGRAM.
I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WORKED ON A LITTLE BIT TOO.
MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY SET EXPECTATIONS ON JUST LAND.
THAT THIS COULD ALSO INCLUDE STRUCTURES AND LANDSCAPES IN THE FUTURE, SO REALLY WHAT I'M HEADED FOR.
I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> I WOULD SAY THE NEXT ITERATION, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE MORE ROBUSTLY INCLUDED IN THE PROGRAM.
>> I'D LIKE TO ADD MY VOTE TO THAT.
I AGREE WITH HER 100%, AND I ALSO LIKE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO RESTRICT THE FUTURE TOO MUCH BY MENTIONING SENSITIVE LANDS.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANDS THAT WE'VE ALREADY PURCHASED, THE CAR WASH, NELSON PART IS NOT REALLY SENSITIVE LAND.
THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR US TO BUY LAND FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE THAN JUST FOR SENSITIVE LANDS.
THAT'S JUST A CONSIDERATION I THOUGHT WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT.
>> OTHER COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS OR ENHANCEMENT?
>> YEAH, I DO. I THINK WE COULD JUST EVEN GO WITH CONSERVATION PROGRAM ON MORE WHITE BROADLY, SOONER THAN LATER [OVERLAPPING]
THERE'S TWO MAJOR COMMENTS I HAVE.
IN YOUR BULLET 5, I THINK THAT'S A BULLET 5 FOR THE GOALS.
THE COMMUNITY, WHERE IS IT? YEAH, IT IS BULLET 5.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT REPLACED WITH SOMETHING LIKE VOLUSIA COUNTY'S FIRST GOAL WHICH SAYS CONSERVE, MAINTAIN, AND OR RESTORE THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
WE CAN OF COURSE, INCLUDE CULTURAL ENVIRONMENT HERE AND PROVIDE ACCESS FOR THE ENJOYMENT AND EDUCATION OF THE PUBLIC.
I THINK THAT'S MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
HAVE THAT BULLET REPLACED WITH SOMETHING TO THAT STATEMENT.
HOW DO YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT THAT?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN WRITING. IT'S WORTH THE [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK SHE'S TRYING TO SAY THAT PARKS HAVE A CONNOTATION.
[OVERLAPPING] YOU'RE TRYING TO ELIMINATE THE CONNOTATION OF WHAT THE PARK IS.
>> BROADEN IT. IT COULD BE TRAILS THROUGH A SENSITIVE AREAS.
>> YOU COULD SAY SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF NATURE-BASED, SOMETHING THAT'S PASSIVE RECREATION.
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>> YEAH. THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT.
>> THEN THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO PUT IT.
>> THEN THE BIGGER PIECE IS I THINK WE'RE MISSING A GOAL THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IN THIS.
WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT WITH THIS IS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
LIKE IT SHOULDN'T BE THE CRITERIA FOR SUPPORTING AN ACQUISITION.
IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT THE PROJECT HAS TO MEET EVERY SINGLE GOAL.
I WANT TO PREFACE IT BY SAYING THIS FIRST.
BUT AN IMPORTANT GOAL TO ME WOULD BE AN ECOSYSTEM SERVICES GOAL, AND I'M GOING TO JUST GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT.
ON THAT PHRASE, ECOSYSTEM SERVICES ENCOMPASSES THE FACT THAT WE'RE DEPENDENT ON FUNCTIONING ECOSYSTEMS FOR FOOD, FOR EXAMPLE, SEAFOOD, CLEAN AIR AND WATER, RECREATION, AESTHETICS, STORMWATER RETENTION.
MUCH AS WE AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROVIDES SERVICES SUCH AS GARBAGE REMOVAL, RECYCLING, WATER AND SEWER, AND THOSE ALL COST US, THAT COSTS US MONEY, ACTUAL MONEY THROUGH TAXES.
ECOSYSTEM SERVICES COSTS US NOTHING EXCEPT THE INITIAL INVESTMENT IN A PROPERTY.
ECOSYSTEM SERVICES SPECIFICALLY ASSIGNS A VALUE TO WHAT NATURE PROVIDES TO US.
AS THE RAVEN, WESTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REMINDED US WHEN THEY SPOKE SO PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE FLORIDA AVENUE PROJECT, THE TREES ON THAT SITE PROVIDES SHADE, CLEAN AIR, CARBON STORAGE.
THERE ARE VIEW ESCAPES, FLOOD WATER RETENTION AND FILTRATION.
THOSE ARE EXAMPLES OF ECOSYSTEM SERVICES.
THESE ARE CRITICAL VALUES TO A SUSTAINABLE, RESILIENT CITY, AND I THINK THEY SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED AS SUCH, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE INCLUSION OF A GOAL TO ECOSYSTEM SERVICES.
I'M GOING TO JUST THROW THIS OUT THERE AS A SUGGESTION.
MY SUGGESTION FOR THAT GOAL WOULD BE TO PROTECT AND OR ENHANCE ECOSYSTEM SERVICES FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE? THAT IS OR MAKE A COMMENT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DOING IS WHEN A PIECE OF PROPERTY IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR ACQUISITION IN THIS PROGRAM OR WHEN ONE HAS BEEN PURCHASED, THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT RUBIN, I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT QUITE A BIT IS ON A WEBSITE THAT WE WILL CERTAINLY CREATE SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE WOULD BE LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, A MAP THAT HAS, THESE ARE WHERE THE PROPERTIES ARE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS YEAR AND THESE ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN ACQUIRED TWO DIFFERENT MAPS.
THEN YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT ON ONE THAT HAS BEEN ACQUIRED AND IT WOULD SAY HOW MUCH IT COST AND WHAT IT'S SCORE WAS SO PEOPLE WOULD KNOW HOW IT RANKED, BUT IT WOULD ALSO MOST IMPORTANTLY TO ME DELINEATE NOT SO MUCH ALL THE BULLETS THAT IT HIT BUT ONE THING FOR SURE IS THE ECOSYSTEM SERVICES THAT IT PROVIDES.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT ESTUARIES ECOSYSTEMS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE AND WE'RE COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY EITHER MARINE OR TERRESTRIAL ECOSYSTEMS, ALL THOSE FOUR MAIN ECOLOGICAL SERVICES, THE WAY THEY'RE RANKED THEY'RE BROKEN INTO FOUR PARTS BY MOST PEOPLE AND THERE'S A REGULATING SERVICE AND THERE'S A PROVISIONING SERVICES AND CULTURAL SERVICES AND ALL THOSE IT'D BE NICE TO SAY THAT THIS PROPERTY MET THESE ECOLOGICAL SERVICES.
>> THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS GOAL SO THAT WE HAVE THAT CONNECTION BETWEEN THIS BROADER IDEA ABOUT ECOSYSTEM SERVICES AND WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS.
>> WELL, WE'D EXPLAIN IT ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL, OF COURSE.
>> WHICH IS GREAT. WAS THAT A QUESTION OR COMMENT?
>> CAN I SAY SOMETHING? I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING AROUND OR NOT.
I GOT AN EMAIL FROM MS. MAUREEN THAT'S IN THE AUDIENCE AND SHE WAS ASKING ABOUT US IDENTIFYING THE TREES WITH A NUMBER.
HAVE YOU GUYS CONSIDERED ANYTHING LIKE THAT? BASICALLY, YOU HAVE SOMEBODY GO OUT AND LOCATION, IDENTIFICATION, NUMBER OF ALL THE TREES OR SKETCH OF A SURVEY.
BASICALLY THE TREES ARE NUMBERED SO IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE TREE THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY IT INSTEAD OF JUST GOING OUT THERE AND NOT BEING ABLE TO RECALL WHAT AREA, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SHE SPOKE WITH DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING, AMY SKINNER ABOUT THIS AND THEY DO IT IN OTHER COUNTIES WHERE THEY HAVE, SOMEBODY GOES OUT AND DOES A SURVEY AND THEY NUMBER ALL THE TREES,
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THERE'S A NUMBER ON THEM SO THEY CAN BE IDENTIFIED IN CASE YOU NEED TO SEND SOMEBODY TO REMOVE A TREE, THEY'LL GO OUT AND THEY SAY THIS IS THE NUMBER, THEY'RE LIKE BASICALLY TAGGED.>> EXCUSE ME, IS THIS IF THE CITY BUYS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAN WE DO A TREE SURVEY? [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH. I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT ON THIS.
I THINK I RECEIVED THE SAME EMAIL OR SOMETHING SIMILAR AND IT WAS DIRECTLY RELATED TO PROPOSE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, NOT ACQUISITION PROJECTS.
THAT IF A DEVELOPER WERE GOING TO GO IN AND TAKE A TREE DOWN THAT WE WOULD KNOW THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WAS INTENDED BY THE NOTE.
>> BUT MAYBE IT HAS TO DO WITH IDENTIFYING WHAT TYPE OF TREE IT IS BECAUSE SOME ARE MORE VALUABLE FOR CARBON CAPTURE THAN OTHERS.
>> WE'RE SIMPLY INVENTORYING THE RESOURCES THAT WE'RE PURCHASING.
TREES, ARCHAEOLOGICAL, CULTURAL, ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES FOR EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE ACQUIRE THROUGHOUT THIS PROGRAM.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I LIKE THAT AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY SAYING, I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.
>> TO FURTHER DAVID'S THOUGHTS, RUBIN AND I ENVISION THAT WHEN A PIECE OF PROPERTY GETS OFFERED BY A WILLING SELLER THAT WE WOULD GO OUT AND DO A PRETTY FULL ASSESSMENT AND WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CATALOG AT THAT POINT EVERY TREE BUT IT WOULD BE WHAT ARE THE NATURAL COMMUNITIES? WHAT ARE THE IMPORTANT COMPONENTS? THEN START TO FIGURE OUT, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT IN ORDER TO GET A REALLY GOOD RANKING CRITERIA.
THE GOOD THING IS WE'D BE ABLE TO DO THAT VERY THOROUGHLY BECAUSE MOST OF THE PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO BE RELATIVELY SMALL IN ACREAGE BY MY STANDARDS.
I MEAN, I'M USED TO WORKING ON 10,000 ACRES.
[LAUGHTER] IT'S BETTER THAN ENTIRE CITY.
IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD TO DO AND IT'S NOT JUST THE NATURAL RESOURCES.
MOST AS IMPORTANT DATES COURSE, IT'S THE CULTURAL RESOURCES.
WE HAVE WONDERFUL STAFF TO HELP US WITH THOSE CULTURAL RESOURCES.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT A PRETTY GOOD PICTURE TOGETHER OF THE PROPERTY.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON?
I THINK I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT YOU DID USE EXAMPLES FROM OTHER LAND ACQUISITION PROGRAMS OR ACQUISITION PROGRAMS. THEY'RE ALL COUNTY. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE CITIES.
I KNOW CITY OF JACKSONVILLE MIGHT HAVE A PROGRAM, BUT SOMETHING OUR SIZE.
I THINK WE'RE VERY PROGRESSIVE IN OUR APPROACH TO THIS AND OUR APPROACH TO THE PRAGMATIC REASONS FOR DOING IT, LOOKING AT THIS AS AN INVESTMENT AND PRESERVING OUR RESOURCES WRIT LARGE.
I THINK THIS IS VERY EXCITING AND I THANK STAFF FOR BRINGING US SUCH A GREAT DRAFT TO WORK FROM.
>> IT'S ALSO THE SCALE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT SCALE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY MORE EXCITING.
>> WAITING FOR THAT TO COME BACK UP. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ISABELLE POINTED OUT IS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY ESTABLISHED A REAL ESTATE ACQUISITION PROCEDURES, WHICH I HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, BUT THERE THEY ARE, SECTION 2.2 WHICH WOULD TELL US HOW TO PROCEED WITH ACQUISITION DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OR EXCUSE ME, THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? PROCESS. THIS IS INTERESTING.
THIS HAPPENS TO BE THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY LAMP BOARD SELECTION MATRIX AND I'M ON THAT BOARD.
I'M OBVIOUSLY PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
BUT ONE OF THE NEXT STEPS THAT WE DO, ONCE WE HAVE EVERYTHING IRONED OUT IN TERMS OF OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND OUR MISSION STATEMENT WOULD BE TO COME UP WITH A SELECTION MATRIX WHICH WOULD BE DEVELOPED FROM THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
WHAT ITEMS YOU SPECIFICALLY RANK OR SCORE WILL BE HOW YOU IN ESSENCE WEIGHT THE DIFFERENT.
IF YOU HAVE FOUR CULTURAL RESOURCE COMPONENTS AND IT'S ALL ADDITIVE AT THE END, YOU COULD CERTAINLY HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S WEIGHTED MORE FOR CULTURAL RESOURCES VERSUS NATURAL RESOURCE AS AN EXAMPLE.
THAT'LL BE A REALLY IMPORTANT TO PUT TOGETHER THE SELECTION MATRIX.
>> I WOULD JUST INTERRUPT YOU HERE BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS AND I SAW THE CULTURAL ASPECT AND IT WAS JUST REALLY ONE ITEM AND REALLY COULD ONLY POTENTIALLY RECEIVE A FIVE POINTS.
BUT IF YOU BROKE IT OUT TO ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES,
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ANOTHER ONE HISTORIC STRUCTURE, ANOTHER ONE CULTURAL LANDSCAPES.[OVERLAPPING] THAT WOULD I THINK GIVE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, MOVING MORE IN THE DIRECTION.
THANK YOU. I THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.
>> YES, MA'AM. THAT WAS JUST THE WAY THE COUNTY DID IT, WHICH I ASSUME THEY DON'T PUT AS MUCH VALUE ON CULTURAL RESOURCES AS THE CITY WOULD.
OBVIOUSLY THE APPRAISAL PROCESS NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED.
THAT'D BE RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IT WAS FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER, DO WE USE STATE APPROVED APPRAISERS? THE ONLY ADVANTAGE TO THAT WOULD BE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO SEEK FUNDING FROM ANOTHER SOURCE OR WORK WITH ONE OF OUR LIKE STATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY REQUIRE STATE APPROVED APPRAISERS.
YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE TO GO BACK AND GET NEW APPRAISALS DONE IF WE WERE GOING TO TRY AND DO COST-SHARE. WHO WILL NEGOTIATE? THESE ARE JUST THINGS TO THINK ABOUT A DUAL, THIS WILL BE EASY TO WORK OUT.
WHO WILL NEGOTIATE THE PURCHASE? DAVID. [LAUGHTER] INCIDENT ENVIRONMENTAL AUDIT NEEDED BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE PROPERTIES THAT DO HAVE AN OLD GAS STATION OR SOMETHING.
WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO A PHASE 1, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, BUT WE'LL KNOW THAT WHEN WE DO THE HISTORY, OR DUE DILIGENCE.
WHO WILL DO THE CLOSING RIGHT NOW? IT'S I THINK ONE OF TWO CLOSING COMPANIES; IS IT? SEVERAL. REALLY IMPORTANT WOULD BE TO WRITE A PRELIMINARY CONCEPTUAL MANAGEMENT PLAN, REALLY BASIC, JUST A COUPLE OF PAGES AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D BE ON THE WEBSITE WHEN THE PROPERTY GETS PUT ONTO THE WEBSITE AS A POTENTIAL ACQUISITION.
IT WOULD BE TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT WE THINK THIS WILL LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD AND ALSO TO HELP US WITH COST ESTIMATES TO MANAGE IT.
OF COURSE, IS THE CITY GOING TO OWN AND OR MANAGE THE PROPERTY? WHAT HAPPENS IS IF AN INCREDIBLE PIECE OF PROPERTY COMES AVAILABLE WITH AMAZING HISTORICAL STRUCTURE ON IT, IS THE CITY GOING TO MANAGE THAT HISTORICAL STRUCTURE? JUST AS A QUESTION. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF ONE.
THEY'RE JUST STARTING THEIR PROGRAM AS WELL.
AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THEY ACTUALLY, THE WAY THEY WAITED STUFF IN THE WAY THE CATEGORIES ARE THEY? WE'RE VERY HEAVY BECAUSE IT'S COUNTYWIDE.
THEY WERE MORE HEAVY ON NATURAL RESOURCES, DRINKING WATER, AND THINGS, AND RARE HABITATS.
OURS WOULD NOT LOOK LIKE THAT.
OTHER THINGS FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE PROGRAM WOULD BE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
WE HAVE THE CITY GENERAL FUND.
BONDING, WE CAN GO OUT, AND IF WE HAD A LIST OF 10 PROPERTIES, CAN BOND IT TO PURCHASE THOSE PROPERTIES.
GRANTS, WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING INTO, STATE, FEDERAL, AND LEGISLATIVE ASKS EVERY YEAR.
UNDER GRANTS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S THE FLORIDA COMMUNITIES TRUST GRANT, THE FCT.
IT HAS $15 MILLION IN IT RIGHT NOW, SO WE CAN SUBMIT APPLICATIONS FOR THAT GRANT.
THE RESIDENTS IN MADEIRA HAVE MADE REQUESTS OVER PURCHASE OF LAND, AND SINCE THIS PROGRAM HAS COME ONLINE, WE'VE RECEIVED OTHER EMAILS, SO WE PROBABLY HAVE FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT EMAILS RIGHT NOW OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THIS PROGRAM AND I THINK SOME OF THOSE FOLKS ARE ATTENDING THE WORKSHOP TODAY AS WELL.
>> WHAT QUESTION ON THAT? WE CAN'T WORK WITHIN A PRIVATE PROPERTY, OR WE CAN PURCHASE SOMETHING IN A?
>> I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE COMPLICATION OF: IF WE PURCHASE PROPERTY IN A PRIVATE GATED COMMUNITY, HOW WOULD WE MAINTAIN PUBLIC ACCESS?
>> EXACTLY. IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE?
>> WE ARE LOOKING INTO THAT, FOR INSTANCE, THIS PROGRAM; WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE APPLICATION, IT'S WEIGHTED OR WITH POINTS.
YOU WOULD FILL IT OUT TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, AND THEN IT HAS A POINT STRUCTURE.
FOR MADEIRA, IT WOULD BE HURT ON THE PUBLIC ACCESS POINT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TOTAL COST, AND IT'S A STATEWIDE PROGRAM, SO ANYTHING WE PUT IN THERE IS GOING TO GO UP AGAINST APPLICATIONS FROM ALL OVER THE STATE AS WELL.
BUT YEAH, PUBLIC ACCESS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF MOST OF THESE GRANTS.
THAT BEING SAID, THERE IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY THAT IS BEING LOOKED AT THAT WE WOULD BE,
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I WOULD ASSUME SUPPORTIVE IF THEY DID A LARGER PURCHASE.>> THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA BLUEWAYS KIND OF TOUCHES THAT AREA.
ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE WITH THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA LAND TRUST, THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO A LARGER PURCHASE, BUT THE CITY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AS WELL.
MR. GRANT, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, IS HERE AS WELL.
IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE, THESE PROPERTIES WOULD FALL UNDER THE GROUNDS DIVISION WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS TO MAINTAIN, SO AS WE UP OUR INVENTORY AND AS WE GET MORE MANAGEMENT PLANS, DOWN THE ROAD WE'D BE LOOKING AT STAFFING FOR THAT, WHICH WE'RE LEARNING FIRST-HAND WITH FISH ISLAND PRESERVE RIGHT NOW.
IF WE HAVE MORE OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT COME ON BOARD, I COULD SEE THAT THAT DIVISION IS GOING TO HAVE TO GROW A LITTLE BIT TO KEEP UP.
SOLICIT APPLICATIONS WE VIEW THAT WILL PROBABLY HAVE AN APPLICATION PROCESS SO PEOPLE CAN SUBMIT THE INFO AND THAT WILL HELP US START TO CALL OUT WHAT PROPERTIES ARE THERE AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM THROUGH THE MATRIX SELECTION PROCESS OR NOT.
THEY'LL PROBABLY BE A PRETTY EASY, YES, NO MOVE TO THE NEXT COLUMN, IF YOU WILL, TO GET INTO THAT MATRIX SELECTION.
THEN POST OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENGAGEMENT AS WELL ON THE WEBSITE AND THROUGH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA FOR CLEAN-UPS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AS PROPERTIES COME ON.
THE WEBSITE ITSELF, AS JB TOUCHED BASE ON, WE'D HAVE THE APPLICATION NOMINATION FORM, ANNUAL PRIORITY LIST OF THE PROPERTIES, PROVIDE THOSE MAPS TO SHOW PEOPLE WHERE THEIR MONEY'S GOING WHEN WE'RE PURCHASING THESE AND SO THEY CAN ACCESS THE MANAGEMENT PLANS AND THEN SO THAT WOULD BE EACH PARCEL, WE WOULD ENVISION HAVING ITS OWN KIND OF LANDING PAGE.
SO WHEN YOU CLICK ON IT, YOU COULD GO THERE AND READ ABOUT ITS HISTORY, AND WHY WE ACQUIRED IT, AND DESCRIPTION OF ECOSYSTEM SERVICES.
THE O&M PORTION, WE WANT TO FOCUS ON MINIMAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
I THINK THAT FALLS IN LINE WITH PASSIVE PARKS, AND WE'RE ACQUIRING THESE PROGRAMS OR PROPERTIES.
THEN, LIKE I SAID, THE STAFFING, THE MANAGER CREWS TO MAINTAIN THAT, SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THAT AS WELL, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PAGE.
THAT QUICKLY BRINGS US TO THE NEXT STEPS.
IF YOU DO LOOK IN THE BACK, WE DID PROVIDE MAPS, THANKS TO OUR GIS DIVISION.
THEY CREATED MAPS OF ALL THE PARCELS THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED TO DATE SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
I CAN GO OVER QUICKLY IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DID TAKE NOTES TO KIND OF GET US IN THE BALLPARK SO WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH THE NEXT STEPS ARE REALLY THE MISSION STATEMENT AND THOSE PROPOSED GOALS.
IF WE CAN GET A GOOD CONSENSUS ON THAT, THAT WILL LET US, AND YOU WERE OKAY WITH THE PROCESS THAT YOU SAW OUTLINED HERE.
WE'LL TAKE THOSE CREATE OUR OWN DECISION MATRIX AND THEN COME BACK WITH A MORE FORMAL PLAN WITH THE APPLICATION AND POTENTIAL LAUNCH DATE OF THE PROGRAM.
>> YOU SKIPPED RIGHT OVER TAX'S QUESTION MARK.
>> TAX QUESTION MARK, I'M SORRY.
>> I'M VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
>> WELL, IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST OF FUNDING MECHANISMS AND TAXING.
MY UNDERSTANDING WITH, AND ISABELLE; FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN, BUT TO CREATE THE TAX IT HAS TO BE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, BASICALLY.
THEN THE CITY WOULD GET OUR PROPORTIONATE SHARE THROUGH A FORMULA JUST SIMILAR TO, I GUESS, THE TRANSPORTATION TAX THAT WAS MADE.
THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THE LEGISLATION ABOUT IF THE CITY HAD A POPULATION THAT WAS HALF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT TAX-WISE, IT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE COUNTY TO IMPLEMENT THE TAX FOR THIS.
>> I WAS GOING BACK TO SOME OTHER CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD ABOUT CARVING OUT SOME OF OUR CURRENT INCOME PERMANENTLY FOR THAT PURPOSE SO THAT WE CONTINUE TO FUND AND NOT JUST DEPEND ON MONEY THAT'S LEFT OVER BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE YEARS WHEN WE WON'T HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER.
I WAS LOOKING AT SOME KIND OF A PERMANENT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MUCH, BUT JUST SOME KIND OF A CARVE-OUT OF PARKING OR OF THE MOBILITY OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP GENERATE SOME FUNDS ON A PERPETUAL.
>> RIGHT, SO A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE OF PERCENTAGE OF OUR GROSS REVENUES FROM THE PARKING GARAGE OR SOMETHING SIMILAR, A SIMILAR INSTRUMENT, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT THAT.
I THINK WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT TAXES,
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IT WAS AT 1% SALES TAX THAT THE COUNTY LOOKED AT SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT WAS UNSUCCESSFUL.THAT WOULD BE THE MECHANISM TO TRY TO ACHIEVE A BROADER TAX THAT WOULD BE EARMARKED JUST FOR CONSERVATION PURCHASES, AND RUBIN JUST WANTED TO OPINE ABOUT HOW WE WOULD BE SECOND FIDDLE TO THE COUNTY IF THAT WERE TO BE CREATED BECAUSE WE WOULD ONLY GET OUR PROPORTIONATE SHARE BASED ON PARTICULAR AREAS.
>> AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHERE YOU'RE ASKING US TWO QUESTIONS TO MOVE FORWARD TO PROPOSE MISSION STATEMENT, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THE BULK OF THIS IS, IF WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ANYTHING, WOULD BE TO, ON THE PROPOSED MISSION STATEMENT AND GOALS.
I THINK I GOT ENOUGH FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION ON THE TOPIC.
SINCE WE HAVE SOME TIME BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS ON BOARD, BUT I HEARD THAT WE HAVE TO ADD HISTORIC PRESERVATION HISTORIC PROPERTIES INTO THE ACTUAL MISSION STATEMENT.
THE PRESERVATION OF THAT INCORPORATE COMPLAINT POLICY 9.1, WHICH I BELIEVE SPEAKS TO THAT AS WELL.
>> IT'S ACTUALLY THREE THINGS: HISTORIC PROPERTIES, ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES, AND CULTURAL RESOURCES, AND I'M LOOKING AT THEM SEPARATELY, EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY.
WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE WORD ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LANDS, WHICH I THINK YOU'VE HEARD INPUT AND PUT ON THE USE OF THE WORD SENSITIVE, BUT TO CHANGE THAT TO ENVIRONMENTALLY HISTORIC LANDS OR PROPERTY BECAUSE IT COULD BE HISTORIC SITES, STRUCTURES.
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO PUT HISTORIC EVERYWHERE.
>> I DO. BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO JUST IMPLY LANDS, AND I'M GOING TO JUST THROW IT OUT THERE AND LET YOU WORK ON IT.
BUT HISTORIC, ARCHAEOLOGICAL, AND CULTURAL RESOURCES, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO CUT DOWN.
>> I THINK THAT'S FINE. BUT I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING SENSITIVE LANDS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT NOT EVERYTHING THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN LAUNDERED.
>> IT DOESN'T ALL HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE.
>> I HEARD THESE STRIKES AND SAID WE COULD ONLY BE POINTING YOUR POINTS SYSTEM.
YOU CAN HAVE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND SCORE HIGHER.
YOU MAY HAVE SEVERAL CATEGORIES OF ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND PROTECTING WILDLIFE, PROTECTING TREES, WHATEVER SO THEY COULD GET MORE POINTS, BUT NOT JUST RESTRICTED BECAUSE WE MAY WANT TO BUY ANOTHER CAR WASH AND TEAR DOWN, WHO KNOWS.
>> I GOT THAT. I ALSO HAVE THE MILITIAS REPLACED BULLET 5 WITH SOMETHING MORE ON THE LINES WITH FELICIA'S CONSERVED, MAINTAIN SERVICES AND THEN ECOSYSTEM SERVICES AS WELL.
WE'LL HAVE THAT ADDED. THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE GOTTEN DOWN THAT WE CAN TAKE BACK.
>> I'VE GOT OTHER ROUTES THAT I'LL GIVE YOU.
THE ROUTE OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ELEMENT THAT ARE REALLY ABOUT IDENTIFYING RESOURCES, CREATING MITIGATION BANKS AND TRUST FUNDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ALL THROUGHOUT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ELEMENT, THAT SORT OF THING, WHICH IS RIGHT DOWN THIS ALLEY.
I'LL GIVE YOU THIS AND LET YOU LOOK OVER.
I'VE JUST GONE THROUGH AND HIGHLIGHTED IT.
ANY OTHER ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES.
>> SINCE COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD SAID THIS, BUT I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH HIM AND I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING ALL ALONG FOR A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE.
HOWEVER, WE CAN TRY TO THINK ABOUT MAKING THAT HAPPEN.
I'M JUST EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT VERSION.
THANK YOU STAFF FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB.
THANK YOU MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR THE GREAT INPUT TOO. THIS IS WONDERFUL.
YES, THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TOO.
OF SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, FOR AN EDENIC TO BE SPECIFICALLY TIED TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION, WE'VE SEEN IT THAT PERCENTAGE, SOME KIND OF DEDICATED REVENUE STREAM FOR COMMUNITY ART, FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION, FOR LAND ACQUISITION.
IT SEEMS TO ME STATE REALLY TIES OUR HAND IN SO MANY WAYS AND WE HAVE VERY FEW OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE ALLOWED OR ENABLED TO RAISE FUNDS AND TAX,
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THEY RESERVE ALL THE TAXING AUTHORITY TO THE STATE.IT IS WHAT IT IS. WHAT I'VE SEEN MOST COMMONLY IS OTHER COMMUNITIES WILL ASSESS A FEE BASED ON ANY CITY CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
ANYTIME THE CITY GOES OUT AND BUILDS SOMETHING, FOR EXAMPLE, A NEW PARKING GARAGE, IT COULD BE A ROAD OR AN INTERSECTION, USE YOUR IMAGINATION, BUT THERE IS AN ASSESSMENT ON OURSELVES.
WE DEFINITELY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT LIKE I SAID.
>> YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT THOUGH.
BECAUSE WE CANNOT CHARGE APPLICANTS FOR DEVELOPMENT PERMITS.
THESE ARE UNRELATED TO THE PROGRAM.
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT CITY PROPERTIES, WE ARE TAXING OURSELVES ON OUR OWN CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
>> WE'RE SEGREGATING A PORTION OF THE CONSTRUCTION TO BE FOR PUBLIC COURSE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] HAVE CONSTRUCTION. I'M SORRY.
>> VERY CLEAR. BUT THAT'S IT'S REALLY US TAXING OURSELVES OR TAXING.
IT'S NOT REALLY A TAX, BUT IT'S JUST REALLY A 1% FEE ON OUR OWN PROJECTS, ON OUR OWN INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON, AND THEN IT'S GOING INTO THIS.
>> SURE. THE DOT DOES IT FOR LANDSCAPING.
ANY DOT PROJECT AS PART OF THE SPREADSHEET OF THE COSTS OF THE PROJECT, THEY INCLUDE A PERCENTAGE THAT HAS TO BE SPENT ON LANDSCAPING.
YES, IT'S AN INTERNAL ACCOUNTING MECHANISM AND THAT IS FINE.
>> EXACTLY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIMITED TO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, SO USE YOUR IMAGINATION TO HOW YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THAT.
>> WELL, WE COULD GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE FIVE-YEAR CIP AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.
>> EXCELLENT. THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD INFORMATION BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT AREAS WE'RE SPENDING IN AND WHAT AREAS WE CAN TAX OURSELVES, SO TO SPEAK, OR CREATE THAT.
WELL, LET'S JUST SAY, LET'S PUT THE FLOWERY LANGUAGE ON IT, CREATE A REVENUE SOURCE OF OUR OWN MAKING.
>> TRULY, WE APPRECIATE THE WORKSHOP.
THIS IS JUST AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CREATE A REALLY TRULY UNIQUE ACQUISITION PROGRAM THAT'S BALANCED AND TAILORED TO THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF OUR OWN COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE TRULY ARE VERY SPECIAL.
WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF CATEGORIES OF IRREPLACEABLE RESOURCES, AND TREASURES AND LAND.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT MATRIX.
IS HE PART OF THE PRESENTATION?
>> WE'D LIKE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAD. [OVERLAPPING]
>> GREAT. WELL, WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE HIM AS BEING PART OF THIS EFFORT TOO.
WITH THAT SAID, WE'LL BE ADJOURNED.
>> [NOISE] THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.