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ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN THE CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING.
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OKAY. GET ON THE RIGHT PAGE.MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
NANCY SIKES-KLINE? YES. ROXANNE HORVATH HERE.
FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS.
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I DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS.HOWEVER, ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK STEP FORWARD IS WELCOME TO.
I SEE MISS KALAIDI IN THE BACK.
YOU CAN TURN YOUR CARD IN MS. KALAIDI AFTER YOU SPEAK, IF YOU LIKE, JUST TO KEEP IN THE INTEREST OF KEEPING THINGS MOVING.
WITH THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.
JUST TO FOLLOW UP AFTER THE CRA MEETING.
IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, I'LL KEEP ON BRINGING THIS UP TOO.
THERE'S ABOUT 23.40% OF PROPERTY TAXES THAT WE DO NOT GET BECAUSE THEY'RE A 501C3 OR WHATEVER.
AND THAT'S ONE REASON I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT GOES ON WITH THE GENERAL FUND.
AND ALSO, I DON'T HAVE THE STATISTICS RIGHT NOW.
I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, BUT MY CONCERN IS USING GENERAL FUND DOLLARS RESULTED ORIGINALLY IN THE CREATION OF THE FIRE TAX.
SO I WANTED THAT TO BE PUT ON THE RECORD.
AND THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS TOO, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO LISTENING TO THIS MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW WHO THE OTHER GENTLEMAN IS THAT'S IN THE ROOM, BUT I'M MISSING MR. PAPPAS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED TO MISTER PAPPAS.
HE USED TO BE HERE FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE MEETINGS.
NOW, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? LET'S LOOK INTO THIS SITUATION.
SO, ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS KALAIDI.
ALL RIGHT, THEN. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS TO SPEAK? I DID RECEIVE ONE LETTER ABOUT THE BUDGET FROM GINA BURRELL, WHO USUALLY DOES ATTEND.
HI, GINA. IF YOU'RE WATCHING, I HOPE YOU'RE WATCHING.
SHE WASN'T FEELING WELL TODAY, BUT SHE'S ALSO BEEN ATTENDING MEETINGS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
SO. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT SAID, MR.
[3. PRESENTATION OF FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET]
SIMPSON, YOU ARE WELCOME TO PRESENT THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2024.GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.
MARK SIMPSON, FINANCE DIRECTOR.
I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 WITH YOU.
YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF THE BOOK.
I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY REMINDING EVERYONE THIS IS ONLY A PROPOSED BUDGET AND THIS BOOK CAN BE AMENDED BETWEEN NOW AND ADOPTION AND THAT OUR ADOPTED BUDGET WILL BE PLACED ON THE WEBSITE FOREVER.
SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF A STARTING POINT.
OUR MILLAGE RATE AT 7.5 MILLS RESULTS MR. SIMPSON, LET ME INTERRUPT.
THE SCREEN WE'RE SEEING IS GOT NOTHING ON IT HERE [INAUDIBLE].
WE'VE GOT FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE INCREASES TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OBTAIN REVENUE FROM ENTITIES THAT ARE OFF THE TAX ROLLS, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
THE CHANGES IN THE VIC PARKING FEE ADDS APPROXIMATELY $1.5 MILLION TO HELP US ASSIST WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION, MOBILITY AND POTENTIALLY THE HOMELESS DROP IN CENTER.
SO THAT IS THAT'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE'RE MAKING THESE ASSUMPTIONS THAT THE PARKING FEE INCREASE.
SO THIS BUDGET IS BALANCED WITH THESE UNDER THESE ASSUMPTIONS.
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SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT IN FISCAL YEAR 24.OKAY. WE'VE GOT SOME INCREASES IN THE VACATION RENTAL FEES AND UTILITY RATES DUE TO THE 4.4% CPI.
WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE PARK NOW CARD RATES.
AND WE WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT WE GOT MONEY FROM THE LEGISLATURE TO HELP WITH THE CITY HALL AND LIGHTNER MUSEUM WINDOWS, WHICH ARE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE, AND A PROJECT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
WITH SOME OF THESE REVENUE INCREASES, WE PROPOSE TO INCREASE PAVING BACK UP TO $800,000 THIS YEAR, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT GIVEN THE CONDITION OF OUR STREETS.
THERE ARE 20 NEW PERSONNEL IN THIS BUDGET TO HELP STAFF KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND FOR SERVICE.
THAT'S A THAT IS A VERY LARGE DEAL FOR THE CITY, FOR THE HR FOLKS AND FOR EVERYBODY TO TO HELP US KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND. SO WE'LL BE GOING OVER THOSE NEW FULL TIME EQUIVALENTS IN DETAIL.
AS WELL AS THE NEW, THE NEW PEOPLE.
WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CURRENT FOLKS.
SO WE DO HAVE A CPI THIS YEAR THAT'S A HYBRID.
WE'RE PROPOSING A $1 AN HOUR PLUS 2%.
ALSO MERIT BASED GIVEN ANNUAL EVALUATIONS.
AND THEN WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MEETING WAS THE TRANSFER OF $1 MILLION FROM GENERAL FUND RESERVES TO PROVIDE THE SEED MONEY FOR THE CONSERVATION LAND ACQUISITION PROGRAM.
SO I FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE SOME GOOD HIGH LEVEL HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS BUDGET.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE I TALK ABOUT WHERE ALL THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM AND WHERE IT'S GOING.
THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE FOUR IS A PIE GRAPH AND A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE OUR REVENUES COME FROM.
YOU CAN SEE 33% OF TAXES, BUT I THINK THE CITY DOES A GOOD JOB WITH CHARGING PEOPLE FOR THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE, AND 55% OF THE REVENUE IS COMING FROM FEE BASED SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE 33% IN TAXES.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER ONES ARE MUCH SMALLER.
THINGS LIKE THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE.
MOST OF THOSE ARE DICTATED BY THE STATE BASED ON FORMULAS.
A QUESTION, JUST AN OVERVIEW QUESTION, MS. KALAIDI SAID THAT 23% OF OUR PROPERTIES WERE OFF OF THE TAX ROLLS.
YOU KNOW, INSTITUTIONS, CHURCHES, THE STATE OF FLORIDA, FOR EXAMPLE.
CAN YOU CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT? I CAN NEITHER CONFIRM NOR DENY THAT.
HOWEVER, I CAN GET WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND ACTUALLY DRILL DOWN ON THAT FOR YOU.
SO WHEN I HEARD THAT PERCENTAGE, I IT PIQUED MY INTEREST.
IT MAY HAVE INCREASED WHEN FLAGLER COLLEGE BOUGHT THE TRIP MOTEL.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT DATA FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE.
OKAY. AND ALSO DO MORE ANALYSIS TO CARVE OUT HOW MUCH WE'RE GETTING FROM BUSINESSES VERSUS.
I DID GIVE HIM AN ESTIMATE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET THAT FOR YOU BEFORE OUR FIRST BUDGET HEARING.
OKAY, GREAT. IN TOTAL, BUDGET IS $84,671,333.
IF YOU GROSS IT UP WITH ALL TRANSFERS, THE BUDGET IS ROUGHLY $105 MILLION.
BUT WITH THIS NETTED OUT AND THE TRANSFERS ARE WHAT GO BETWEEN FUNDS TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING SO THAT ALL THE BUSINESS FUNDS ARE PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF THE GENERAL FUND FOR ALL THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE.
THIS IS WHERE ALL THE MONEY GOES.
THIS IS WHAT WE PAY FOR ALL FUNDS COMBINED.
THIS IS THE ENTIRE CITY BUDGET.
I WILL POINT OUT THE BOTTOM LINE DOES BALANCE $84,671.
$84,671,333. TO ME, AS THE BUDGET PERSON, THE MOST NOTEWORTHY THING ON THIS IS ACTUALLY THE DEBT
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SERVICE AT 5%.AND I MIGHT MENTION THAT THE HACRA NOW HAS THAT SURPLUS BECAUSE OUR DEBT IS BEING REDUCED DUE TO REFINANCING AT HISTORICALLY LOW RATES.
IN ADDITION TO HAVING OUR CREDIT UPGRADED.
SO ALL THAT CONTRIBUTES QUITE A BIT.
THAT'S NOW COMING IN AT 5.25%.
SO WHEN YOU TAKE THE THE LESS INTEREST EXPENSE AND LESS DEBT SERVICE THAT WE PAY AND ADD TO IT ALL THE INTEREST INCOME THAT WE'RE MAKING, IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE NEWSPAPER.
IT'S NOT IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT IT IS WORKING VERY WELL FOR US FINANCIALLY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
WELL, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GETTING US INTO THAT POSITION WE APPRECIATE THAT.
A LOT OF CREDIT. HATS OFF TO YOU.
22% PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT WOULD DEAL WITH OUR UTILITIES AND OUR STREETS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
ACTUALLY, STREETS ARE IN TRANSPORTATION 12%.
GENERAL GOVERNMENT SERVICES 19%.
ANY QUESTION ON THE TOTAL BUDGETED EXPENDITURES.
WHAT IS THAT? CULTURE AND RECREATION ARE THINGS LIKE, WELL, THE GROUNDS BUDGET WOULD BE IN THERE AND MELISSA WISSEL COMMUNICATIONS BUDGET IS CULTURE AND RECREATION.
ALSO, THE MARINA IS A BIG PART OF THAT ONE.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CITY AND WHOLE.
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW YOU GUYS DO ANYTHING CULTURE WISE.
SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED IT'S THE RECREATION PART THAT TAKES UP A LOT OF THAT.
WE'RE NOT A LOT, BUT BUT THAT'S GOOD.
IT'S A START. WE'RE TRYING TO BRING IT BACK.
AND IF YOU SUPPORT THAT, WE'LL WORK EVEN HARDER TO BRING THAT BACK.
NEXT PAGE I'D LIKE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS PAGE SEVEN.
THIS IS THE 20 FULL TIME EQUIVALENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.
ONE ADDITIONAL BODY IN CUSTOMER SERVICE.
WE NEED ANOTHER PURCHASING PERSON TO HELP WITH ALL THE ADDITIONAL DEMANDS BECAUSE OF ALL THE GRANTS WE'RE RECEIVING AND THE WORKLOAD RELATED TO ARPA AND OUR BOND BORROWINGS AND OUR ROBUST CIP REQUIRES QUITE A BIT OF OF SOLICITATION.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL PROCUREMENT SPECIALIST.
WE HAD DONE QUITE A BIT OF THAT WORK CONTRACTUALLY.
WE BROUGHT ON AN EXTREMELY CAPABLE IT MANAGER WHO WAS ABLE TO BRING ALL THE WORK BACK IN HOUSE.
SO WE FEEL LIKE THAT ONE'S A NO BRAINER.
AND THEN MS. PERKINS ADDITIONAL BODY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CRAS.
AND I WOULD ADD THAT THESE FOLKS ARE BEING PAID FOR OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, REALLY FOR ACCOUNTING SIMPLICITY WHEN I PRESENT YOU GUYS OUR ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT, THERE'S A LOT OF TECHNICAL JARGON IN THERE REGARDING DEFERRED INFLOWS AND DEFERRED OUTFLOWS, REGARDING PENSION COSTS, OPEB COSTS.
SO FOR EXPEDIENCY, IT IS MUCH, MUCH EASIER TO HAVE THEM BE IN THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN HAVE THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER THE COST TO THE CRA TO COVER IT. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT THAT OUT.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHER FOLKS THAT HAVE THEIR REASONING AS WELL.
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POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ADDING TWO OFFICERS.AND WE DO HAVE A BUILDING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.
MARK, IF I COULD SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
SO JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT ADDING TO MORE THAN WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
IT'S MAKING THOSE LOCKED IN AS OFFICIAL FTES IN THE 2024 BUDGET.
YOUTH RESOURCE OFFICER CORPORAL FOR THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE WITH FLAGLER COLLEGE AND WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD COMING WITH SAINT JOE'S ALSO TO ASSIST WITH SPECIAL EVENTS AND THAT TEAM WHEN NEEDED.
WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE HALF PERSON 0.5.
WHERE WHERE DOES THAT COME IN? FOR OVERALL OR FOR THE POLICE.
AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE POSITIONS.
THE ADMINISTRATION. OH, DID I NOT HAVE THAT AS A HALF? RIGHT. I APOLOGIZE. WE HAVE A HALF PERSON.
YEAH, IT IS IMPORTANT TO DENOTE THE FTE MEANS FULL TIME EQUIVALENT.
AND SO PART TIME FOLKS OFTEN COUNT AS AS A HALF OF A HALF OF A FULL TIME PERSON.
SO WE DO HAVE A COUPLE IN BUILDING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.
SO AGAIN, WE'VE GOT WE'RE GOING FROM 8.5 TO 9.5, BUT THAT LOOKS LIKE TWO FTES.
WE HAD A POSITION THAT WE DISCUSSED ADDING.
AND AS WE HAVE CONTINUED ON AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, WE HAVE NOT FILLED OR TRULY ADDED THAT POSITION.
SO WE HAVE TRANSFERRED THAT POSITION INTO THE BUILDING INSPECTOR POSITION.
WE WILL, OF COURSE COME BACK TO YOU IF WE FEEL LIKE THAT POSITION IS NEEDED.
I KNOW WHEN I SPOKE TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND WAS ASKING ABOUT SOMEBODY THAT CAN GO OUT AND DO THAT THEY SAID THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT COULD DO THAT, A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. BUT AS FAR AS MEASURING THE DESMOS AND IF WE REALLY WANT TO BE STRONGER WITH MEASURING THE SOUND, I THINK THAT WE REALLY SHOULD CONSIDER A PERSON THAT DOES THAT.
YOU MEAN IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? NO. AS FAR AS IN CODE ENFORCEMENT, YES.
SO KIND OF A NET ZERO FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
AND MAY I INTERRUPT YOU JUST THERE? JUST RIGHT THERE.
I ACTUALLY DID GET SEVERAL EMAILS FROM IN SUPPORT OF THE FIELD ARCHEOLOGIST POSITION.
SO I THINK THREE PEOPLE, FOUR PEOPLE CONTACTED ME.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAD BEEN CONTACTED.
SOMETIMES I CAN'T REALLY TELL.
BUT I WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT'S VERY WELL SUPPORTED.
OKAY. THAT'LL BE A STAFF DECISION, PERSONNEL DECISION.
BUT YES, BUT I SUPPORT 100% THE.
IT'S LONG OVERDUE. SO THANK YOU.
WE HAVE ANOTHER PARKING ENFORCEMENT SPECIALIST IN THIS BUDGET DUE TO EXPANDED HOURS.
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AND THE GOAL IS FOR THOSE FOLKS TO PAY FOR THEMSELVES THROUGH THE WRITING OF TICKETS.SERVICE AREA HAS INCREASED AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS AGING.
I MIGHT ALSO ADD THAT WE HAVE ALL THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS IN THE ROOM, SO IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I CANNOT ANSWER ABOUT ANY OF THIS MATERIAL TODAY, THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE THAT CAN ANSWER THEM.
IT WAS A VERY SMOOTH PROCESS, SO VERY PLEASED.
THERE IS A SUSTAINABILITY TECHNICIAN IN THIS BUDGET.
IN THE UTILITY ADMINISTRATION BUDGET TO HELP WITH OUR SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM.
WHEN THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AFTER YOU'VE GIVEN THE BIRD'S EYE VIEW, I WOULD LIKE MR. GRANT TO COME UP AND TALK MORE ABOUT AND WE THOUGHT IT WISE TO ADD A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PERSON TO THE SOLID WASTE BUDGET BECAUSE OUR TRUCKS WIND UP IN THE SHOP QUITE A BIT. SO WE WANT TO DO MORE PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE AT THE ACTUAL SOLID WASTE FACILITY ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS A GOOD USE OF FUNDS IN THE SOLID WASTE FUND BY BRINGING IN A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN TO TRY TO KEEP THOSE TRUCKS ON THE ROAD AND NOT IN THE SHOP AND IN VIC PARKING, THE REASON FOR THE HALF AN FTE INCREASE IS BECAUSE WE'RE CONVERTING A PART TIME PERSON TO A FULL TIME PERSON.
SO IT'S AN INCREASE OF A HALF.
AND THAT IS QUITE A BIT OF THE BUDGET IS THE NEW PEOPLE.
IF I COULD ON THE SUSTAINABILITY PERSON, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY TO TALK ABOUT THAT IT'S LISTED AS UTILITY ADMIN PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE PUBLIC WORKS ADMIN AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL ADJUST AS WE GO FORWARD.
TECHNICAL MOVE WE'LL TAKE CARE OF.
THAT MAKES SENSE. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY IN THIS SECTION, THANK YOU FOR THE BROADER OVERVIEW.
I KNOW A LOT OF A LOT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO FROM EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT.
I KNOW THAT THEY ALMOST NEVER STOPPED WORKING ON THEIR BUDGETS OR THINKING ABOUT THEIR BUDGETS.
AND IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO ADD STAFF WHEN WE CAN.
SO I'M EXCITED REALLY ABOUT THAT.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS SO IMPORTANT TODAY THAT WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IS THIS REALLY WHAT ARE THESE ASSUMPTIONS CORRECT? AND DO WE AGREE WITH THEM AND THESE BUDGET ASSUMPTIONS.
AND THEN ON THE PARTICULARLY ON THE REVENUE SIDE, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING FEE INCREASES.
BUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S BE SURE THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST A TOP OF MIND OR AT LEAST ON THE RECORD, THAT THERE'S MAYBE MORE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN. SO, UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING MORE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN, EXCEPT PERHAPS THE SUGGESTION THAT WE CONSIDER SOMEWHERE A PLACEHOLDER FOR AN ADDITIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IN CASE WE DO FIND OURSELVES IN THE POSITION OF NEEDING NIGHTTIME ENFORCEMENT.
SO WE DON'T KNOW YET WHETHER THIS NIGHTTIME ECONOMY IS ISSUE ORDINANCE IS GOING TO PERMIT IS GOING TO PASS, BUT IT'S VERY LIKELY, IT COULD BE LIKELY THAT WE WOULD NEED A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AT LEAST PART TIME MAYBE, TO DO THAT.
SO JUST PUT THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND PUTTING THAT IN YOUR BONNET TO THINK ABOUT, SO TO SPEAK.
AND ALSO THE IDEA OF THE SUSTAINABLE.
I DO WANT TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD. I'M GLAD YOU'RE BRINGING THAT UP.
AND YES, COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD.
THERE YOU GO. I WENT THROUGH AND DID I DID SOME LITTLE NOTES HERE.
BUT I ONLY COUNT TWO, FIVE, SIX POSITIONS THAT THE GENERAL FUND IS ACTUALLY ADDING.
I WOULD SAY THAT, YEAH, THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE DEFINITELY PAID FOR BY AD VALOREM.
THE CUSTOMER SERVICE REPS, I WOULD SAY, ARE PAID FOR BY FEES.
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THE IT PERSON WOULD BE PAID FOR GENERAL FUND AD VALOREM.BUILD THE BUILDING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.
ARE THEY PAID BY THE FEES? ARE THEY. THEY'RE OFFSET BUT THEY'RE OFFSET PARTIALLY BY BUILDING PERMIT FEES.
SO TECHNICALLY, WE'RE NOT ADDING 20 POSITIONS TO THE AD VALOREM TAX PAYERS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT REALLY CLEAR.
AND I WOULD ALSO MENTION THAT THE INITIAL REQUEST WAS 44 POSITIONS, CORRECT.
TO GO THROUGH 44 POSITION REQUESTS TO GET DOWN TO 20.
RIGHT. BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, THE GENERAL FUND IS ONLY PAYING FOR A FEW OF THESE.
EXCELLENT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. YEAH. I WAS WONDERING FOR FACILITIES WHY THERE WASN'T AN INCREASE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT CHUCK CUSHMAN MOVED UP TO TIM SHIELDS POSITION, BUT THEREFORE WE ARE SHORT A MECHANICAL PERSON.
SO THAT POSITION, WE STILL NEED A MECHANICAL PERSON TO ASSIST RYAN GOING OUT INTO THE FIELD FOR ALL OUR ELECTRICAL CONCERNS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
THE WE HAD A DIVISION CALLED FACILITIES MANAGEMENT FACILITIES, MAINTENANCE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT THAT WE HAD TWO PERSONNEL IN, AND THEN WE HAD ALL OTHER FACILITIES, STAFF IN FACILITIES.
SO WHEN MR. SHIELDS RETIRED AND MISS MOORE CHANGED POSITIONS, WE DECIDED TO PUT ALL OF THE TO GROUP THOSE TOGETHER INSTEAD OF HAVING TO STAND ALONE.
WE ARE REPLACING EVERY SINGLE POSITION THAT HAS BEEN PROMOTED, RETIRED, ALL THAT.
SO WE. CHUCK GOT HIS PROMOTION AND YES, WE ARE FILLING THE POSITION THAT HE HAD.
THE FACILITIES COORDINATOR POSITION IS STAYING.
SO IT MAY LOOK AND I DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT SPECIFICALLY, BUT WHAT I'M THINKING IS BECAUSE WE COMBINE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT AND FACILITIES, THAT MAY BE WHY IT LOOKS A LITTLE WEIRD, BUT WE ARE NOT ELIMINATING ANY POSITIONS.
EVERY PERSON HAS BEEN PROMOTED OR RETIRED IS BEING FILLED.
IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? YES. OKAY. BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN SOMEBODY LEAVES FACILITIES, THEY DON'T REPLACE THEM.
SO I JUST WANT I DON'T WANT THEM TO LOSE MORE MANPOWER TO MAINTAIN ALL OUR CITY STRUCTURES.
RIGHT? YEAH. NO ONE IS BEING THIS IS NOT BEING REDUCED AT ALL FROM WHERE IT WAS.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE KEEP GOING? WELL, WE SHOULD DIVE INTO THE GENERAL FUND ON PAGE EIGHT.
YOU CAN SEE THE PIE CHART OF OUR REVENUES BY FUNCTION AND YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY OF OUR REVENUES ARE IN THE FORM OF TAXES, AD VALOREM TAXES, PROPERTY TAXES.
WE DO RECEIVE SOME INTERGOVERNMENTAL INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
THE MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES ARE THINGS LIKE OUR RENTS AND OUR INTEREST INCOME.
THE TRANSFERS IN ARE EFFECTIVELY THE GENERAL FUND BILLING FOR OVERHEAD TO ALL THE BUSINESS TYPE FUNDS AND SOME OTHER OPERATING TRANSFERS WHERE OUR ENGINEERS ARE DOING WORK FOR THE UTILITY FUND, THE STORMWATER FUND.
IT'S QUITE A BIT OF THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE, 16%.
I HAD A REQUEST TO ASK MR. GRANT TO COME AND SPEAK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER TECHNICIAN AND I MOVED RIGHT STRAIGHT PAST THAT.
COMMISSIONER BLONDER, WHAT IS YOUR WISH? DO YOU WANT TO STEP BACK? AND THEN IF WE DON'T, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO STEP BACK AND TALK BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME EXCITING THINGS HAPPENING.
AND I WANT. I KNOW WE HAD MOVED ON, BUT YES, I DO.
I DO WANT TO NOT KEEP HIM HERE LONGER THAN HE NEEDS TO BE IF THIS IS.
WE'RE STILL REFINING THAT JOB DESCRIPTION, BUT OVERALL, THAT POSITION IS GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON THAT RACE TO ZERO PROGRAM OR CAMPAIGN.
ALSO EVALUATING CITY STRUCTURES AS FAR AS A GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS CARBON FOOTPRINT, TRYING TO FIND GRANT MONIES TO HELP WITH SOLAR INSTALLATIONS.
ALSO WORKING WITHIN THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS, REVITALIZING OUR OWN SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM THAT HAS KIND OF PUT ON THE SHELF BETWEEN SKIP AND MYSELF.
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AND I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD, THAT'S WONDERFUL THIS ALIGNS RIGHT UP WITH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE VISION PLAN.PULLING SUSTAINABILITY OUT OF THAT ONE ELEMENT AND HAVING IT BE A SEPARATE ELEMENT.
SO THIS IS CONNECTING VERY NICELY WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING IN OUR VISION PLAN.
IT'S EXCELLENT. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE RACE TO ZERO TOO.
SO ON PAGE NINE, YOU CAN SEE THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES BY FUNCTION.
AND AS IT SHOULD AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, PRIMARY DRIVER HERE IS PUBLIC SAFETY AT 33%.
OUR GENERAL GOVERNMENT SERVICES INCLUDE YOURSELVES, CITY MANAGER, MYSELF, FINANCE, ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE OVERHEAD THAT IT REQUIRES TO RUN A CITY OR ANY BUSINESS REALLY.
TRANSPORTATION AT 18% AND PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT AT 9%.
SO I'M GOING TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE GENERAL FUND A LOT MORE THAN THE BUSINESS TYPE FUNDS AND THE ACTUAL DETAILS ON THE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES ARE ON PAGES TEN AND ELEVEN OF YOUR BOOK.
MADAM MAYOR, AS WE TURN THE PAGE, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE 56% ON THE PIE CHART ON PAGE EIGHT REPRESENTS $26 MILLION.
BUT THE ACTUAL AD VALOREM TAX IS $20 MILLION.
THAT'S CORRECT. THE OTHER DIFFERENCES WOULD BE THINGS LIKE UTILITY SERVICE TAXES AND OTHER TAXES SO THAT $20 MILLION WILL BE DIVIDED BETWEEN BUSINESS AD VALORUM AND THEN RESIDENTIAL AD VALORUM.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ONCE WE'RE FINISHED WITH PAGE TEN, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A PLACEHOLDER FOR ASKING MR. SIMPSON A QUESTION ABOUT THE FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE.
OKAY. SO PAGE TEN IS A BREAKDOWN OF OUR REVENUES.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY BY ACTIVITY WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS REVENUE SOURCES WHEN IT COMES TO AD VALOREM TAXES, SALES AND USE AND GAS TAXES, FRANCHISE FEES, ET CETERA.
AND THEN AS COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD BROUGHT UP, WE HAVE OTHER TAXES THAT WE BRING IN AS WELL.
I'M WONDERING IF I'M JUST NOT LOOKING AT THIS RIGHT, OR BUT I NEED SOME HELP WITH THE MATH.
THE ON PAGE THREE OF THE PACKET, WHEN YOU DID THE OVERVIEW OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ELEMENTS THAT YOU THAT YOU WANTED TO BRING TO OUR ATTENTION, IT SAYS THE FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE ADDS 360 K.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT'S $360,000, RIGHT? CORRECT. I RECEIVED MY NOTIFICATION YESTERDAY IN THE MAIL FOR MY OWN HOUSE.
AND WHAT THAT FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE WILL LOOK LIKE FOR MY OWN HOUSE, WHICH IS JUST UNDER 2,000FT².
AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT'S BALLPARK $153.
SO I DID THE MATH IN TERMS OF DIVIDING 360 K BY $153.
SO I THINK THAT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I THINK 360 K DOESN'T ADD UP TO ME.
AND WELL, IT IS BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE.
AND THERE'S A DIFFERENT RATE FOR COMMERCIAL, TOO.
RIGHT. BUT I'M SAYING IT'S WAY UNDER.
IT WOULD BE IF I COULD CLARIFY.
I THINK IT'S THE $360,000 INCREASE, THE TOTAL FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE.
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I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER, MARK.YEAH. YOU'RE $153 IS THE TOTAL, NOT THE INCREASE.
YOUR INCREASE IS PROBABLY A FEW DOLLARS.
OH OKAY. THAT'S WHAT'S THAT'S OKAY.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE INCREMENTAL INCREASE.
I KNEW I WAS DOING THE MATH WRONG, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHY.
I'M GLAD YOU PICKED UP ON THAT.
GOOD QUESTION. OKAY. THANK YOU.
NICE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP SOMEONE DOING THESE.
AND MS. BREIDENSTEIN DID ALL THAT WORK AND I CAN'T THANK HER ENOUGH FOR IT, BUT.
SO ON TO THE EXPENDITURES OF THE GENERAL FUND.
THIS IS BROKEN DOWN BY DIVISION.
AT THE TOP, I JUST CHOSE TO SHOW THE TOTAL SALARIES AND BENEFITS SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE THAT THERE'S AN OVERALL 7.7% INCREASE IN OUR SALARIES AND BENEFITS IN THE GENERAL FUND, AND THAT INCLUDES THE NEW BODIES.
THE NEW BODIES AS WELL AS THE SALARY INCREASES.
WE FROZE OUR PENSION EXPENSES.
AND THERE WAS A SMALL INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE EXPENSE THIS YEAR.
SO GIVEN THE NUMBER OF NEW POSITIONS AND A FAIR MARKET VALUE WAGE INCREASE, I DO THINK 7.7% IS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF ON OUR PERSONAL SERVICES.
THEN YOU HAVE THE BREAKDOWN BY DIVISION OF THE CITY IN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE RELATED DECREASES AND INCREASES IN THOSE BUDGETS.
THE ONE THAT POPS OUT QUITE A BIT IS THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION BUDGET, AND THAT WAS DUE TO, I BELIEVE IT'S THE $750,000 MATCH THAT WE NEEDED A BUDGET FOR IN CASE WE GET THE FUNDS FOR THE NEW FIRE STATION.
SO THAT IS THE REASON FOR AN 806% INCREASE, IS THAT $750,000.
OUR PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATION THAT INCREASE IS DUE TO A REORGANIZATION WHERE MR. GRANT HAS MOVED INTO PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATION AND BROUGHT SOME STAFF WITH HIM WITH ADDITIONAL NEEDS IN THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR BUDGET.
THOSE ARE THE THE LARGE INCREASES OTHER THAN THE GALLIMORE CENTER INCREASE DOES FIX THE POOL.
IT DOES QUITE A BIT OF WORK IN THE KITCHEN.
THERE ARE MONIES EARMARKED FOR SOME EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS TOO.
IT IS QUITE A BIT OF RENOVATIONS AND REMODELING IN THE GALLIMORE CENTER.
SO WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S A GOOD USE OF SOME OF OUR ADDITIONAL AD VALOREM REVENUE THIS YEAR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MINE WOULD BE LIKE THE ADDRESSING THE LARGER REDUCTIONS, LIKE THE 34% IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND ARCHEOLOGY AND 35% IN THE CITY COMMISSION.
WHAT IS WHAT ARE THOSE NUMBERS? PROPERTY SERVICES.
WELL, I MEAN, I'M NOTING THAT IT ALL BALANCES OUT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S LIKE WHY IS HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND ARCHEOLOGY GOING DOWN 34%.
BE HAPPY TO INVITE AMY SKINNER UP TO HELP EXPLAIN THAT ONE.
YES. MRS. SKINNER, WOULD YOU DID YOU DO YOU WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME BACK WITH AN ANSWER ON THAT? THERE THERE WERE SOME GRANTS THAT WERE COMING IN THROUGH THE YEAR, KIND OF ONE TIME SPENDING THAT WE HAD IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION THAT IS NOT IN THERE FOR NEXT YEAR. NOW IT'S SOME OF IT IS ROLLING OVER.
WE CAN GET YOU THE SPECIFICS ON EXACTLY WHAT THOSE PROJECTS WERE.
OKAY. COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD.
I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE STAFF.
EXCUSE ME, BECAUSE THIS IS A YEAR WHERE WE'RE GETTING AN ADDITIONAL INCREASE IN REVENUE FROM AD VALOREM FROM INTEREST RATES AND OUR DEBT SERVICES ARE DOWN.
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MOSTLY IN FUNDS THAT ARE PAYING FOR THEMSELVES.BECAUSE THE FEAR OF GETTING RICH AND SPENDING ALL YOUR MONEY ON ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE TO REPEAT YEAR AFTER YEAR IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DOWN YEAR INEVITABLY.
SO WE CONTINUE TO NEED TO OPERATE THE CITY ON AS A LEAN PERSONNEL AS POSSIBLE WITH APPROPRIATE PERSONNEL AND NOT JUST HIRE 44 PEOPLE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.
I CAN'T EXPLAIN THE PROPERTY SERVICES DECREASE FOR YOU, AND THAT WAS A SIMPLE MATTER OF THERE BEING CONTRACTS AND PROPERTY SERVICES THAT REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT PARTICULAR BUDGET.
SO WE MOVED THEM INTO THE GENERAL FACILITIES BUDGET, WHICH YOU'LL SEE INCREASED BY 35%.
AS FAR AS SOME OTHER NEGATIVES, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE CITY COMMISSION BUDGET DECREASED BECAUSE WE FOUND ITEMS THAT WERE IN THE COMMISSION'S BUDGET THAT WERE THE WISHES OF THE COMMISSION THAT DIDN'T NECESSARILY BELONG IN THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT FUNCTION. SO WE MOVED THOSE ITEMS OUT TO THE PROPER FUNCTIONAL PLACE, SUCH AS THE PUBLIC ART WAS MOVED TO CULTURE AND RECREATION INSTEAD OF IN THE COMMISSION BUDGET.
THANK YOU. THOSE ARE $15.5 MILLION ALLOCATED TO THE OPERATIONS OF THE GENERAL FUND ON TOP OF $26.3 MILLION FOR PERSONAL SERVICES.
SO IF WE MOVE ON TO THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, YOU'LL SEE THE GENERAL FUND DOES HAVE THE MILLION DOLLARS LOADED FOR LAND ACQUISITION IN FISCAL YEAR 24.
VERY PROUD OF THAT I'D LIKE TO JUST STOP YOU AND SAY THANK YOU.
THAT ONE MAKES ME VERY EXCITED.
AND I ESPECIALLY APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER GARRIS THROWING THAT NUMBER OUT THERE.
$153,000 IN BUILDINGS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS OF $1.1 MILLION AND $2 MILLION OF KIND OF ROUTINE MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENTS.
THE TOTAL CAPITAL BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL FUND IS $4.3 MILLION.
WHICH BRINGS US TO TOTAL EXPENDITURES OF $46,245,980.
AND WHEN YOU COMBINE THAT WITH OUR REVENUE OF $40 MILLION, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A EXCESS THERE, BUT THAT'S COVERED BY OUR TRANSFERS. AND BELOW THAT YOU CAN SEE ON PAGE 12 THE DETAILS OF OUR TRANSFERS IN AND OUT.
INCLUDING OUR CRA TRANSFERS, OUR OPERATING TRANSFERS, AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATIVE TRANSFERS OF $5.6 MILLION IS REALLY WHAT BALANCES THE BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO NOTE ON THIS PAGE, PAGE 12, THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECTED COLUMN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023, WE ARE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY A $4 MILLION SURPLUS.
AT LEAST $1 MILLION OF THAT IS DUE TO HIGHER THAN ANTICIPATED INTEREST EARNINGS.
AND THEN WE HAD THE SALE OF THE DOLPHIN DRIVE PROPERTY THAT CAME IN THAT WILL BE RESTRICTED.
SO NOT NECESSARILY ADD TO OUR SPENDABLE RESERVES OR UNRESTRICTED RESERVES.
THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF SURPLUS DUE TO VACANT POSITIONS AS THERE ALWAYS IS, BUT WE ARE EXPECTING ANOTHER $4 MILLION SURPLUS IN FISCAL YEAR 2023.
BEFORE I MOVE ON, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND THAT I CAN ANSWER AT THIS TIME? SO WE'LL GET INTO OUR BUSINESS TYPE FUNDS, OUR UTILITIES AND THE MARINA AND THE VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER.
THESE ARE FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
SO I MIGHT GO THROUGH THEM QUICKLY.
PLEASE STOP ME IF YOU NEED ANYTHING.
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WE'RE ALSO LOWERING THAT SURCHARGE FOR OUTSIDE CITY FROM 19 TO 18%.WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY A REDUCTION IN REVENUE OF ABOUT $350,000.
SO THE TOTAL INCREASE OF REVENUE ISN'T 4.4% BECAUSE OF THE LOWERING OF THE SURCHARGE.
TOTAL REVENUES FOR THE UTILITY FUND PROJECTED TO BE $24.5 MILLION.
AND ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE EXPENDITURES DO TOTAL $24.5 MILLION BROKEN OUT BETWEEN MAINLY PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT. BUT ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, THE UTILITY FUND DOES HAVE TO TRANSFER OUT QUITE A BIT.
SO THERE'S $8.9 MILLION OF TRANSFERS ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ONE, WE'VE GONE FROM A $2.7 MILLION TO A $1.8 MILLION DEBT SERVICE BUDGET.
SO VERY PROUD OF THAT ON PAGE 15.
PAGE 16 BREAKS IT OUT IN DETAIL WHERE YOU CAN SEE WATER AND SEWER BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE CITY.
AS OUR OPERATING REVENUES, YOU CAN SEE APPROXIMATELY $2.5 MILLION INCREASE DUE TO THE FEE INCREASE AND ALSO TRUING UP THE WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE PROJECTED SIDE.
IF YOU NOTICE, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS $19.5 MILLION.
SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2024 IS ROUGHLY $900,000 MORE THAN WHAT WE PROJECT TO RECEIVE IN 2023. AND YOU SAID THAT'S DUE TO? SOME OF IT IS NEW DEVELOPMENT AND SOME OF IT WAS [INAUDIBLE] LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID THE REVENUE PROJECTION WITH A MUCH LARGER CPI LAST YEAR WE JUST DIDN'T BUDGET AS PRECISE AS WE SHOULD HAVE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE $21 MILLION IS WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING TO BRING IN THIS YEAR.
SO WHEN I GO TO DO THE REVENUE BUDGET, I'M NOT LOOKING AT LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.
I JUST I FIND IT AMAZING AND MAYBE I JUST DIDN'T EVER HAVE THIS BREAK OUT BEFORE.
I MEAN, I WAS AWARE THAT WE DO DERIVE A LOT OF REVENUE FROM THE WATER AND SEWER SALES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, BUT I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS OVER $9 MILLION.
WELL, AS MUCH AS I HATE TO SAY IT, WE DO BENEFIT FROM NEW DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.
SO WE ARE WHY WE'RE NOT THE ONE GROWING OUR CITY IS NOT THE GROWING WELL, A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THE SAME RATE AS THE COUNTY IS.
BUT WE DO DERIVE BENEFIT IN THE WAY OF WATER AND SEWER REVENUE.
SO IT'S DEFINITELY A GOOD THING TO HAVE A LARGER UTILITY.
BUT BELOW THE OPERATING REVENUES ARE NON OPERATING REVENUES.
YOU'LL SEE THE CONNECTION FEES FOR BOTH WATER AND SEWER.
THOSE ARE KIND OF INTERNALLY RESTRICTED.
SO WE JUST BUDGET $500,000 FOR IT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS YEAR WE'RE PROJECTING $1.8 MILLION OF WATER CONNECTION FEES, WHICH YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE BUDGET. IF $1.8 MILLION WAS SPENT TO CONNECT, THAT MEANS WE HAVE MORE CUSTOMERS ON THE SEWER SIDE $1.4 MILLION IS PROJECTED IN 2023.
THOSE FUNDS WE DO RESERVE FOR FUTURE PLANT EXPANSION, SO NOT REALLY SOMETHING WE CAN USE.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CLASSIFIED AS NON OPERATING.
THE REST OF THOSE FEES ARE PRETTY STANDARD.
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NOTHING REALLY NOTEWORTHY ON THESE AS SOME OF THESE FEES ARE RECOGNIZED THAT THAT EXCEED BUDGET, WE HAVE TO TURN AROUND AND APPROPRIATE THEM AND SPEND THEM.THINGS LIKE WATER TAPPING FEES, FORCE MAIN OVERLAY CHARGES, THOSE ALL INCUR EXPENSES.
YOU CAN SEE THE INTEREST EARNINGS WENT FROM $86,000 TO $829,000.
YOU WILL SEE PROJECTING $1.3 MILLION OF INTEREST EARNINGS THIS YEAR.
A LOT OF THAT HAD TO DO WITH OUR $12 MILLION LOAN, WHICH WE ARE AGGRESSIVELY SPENDING DOWN.
AND WE CAN'T REALLY USE THAT INTEREST OTHER THAN FOR BOND PROJECTS.
SO WE'VE SPENT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF THAT LOAN.
SO I'VE BUDGETED FOR $829,000 IN INTEREST EARNINGS FOR 2024.
IF ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY THAT THAT WAS REDUCED VERSUS WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING.
SO ALL IN ALL, THE UTILITY BUDGET ON THE REVENUE SIDE.
$24,560,607. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE EXPENSES? NOW, ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, THIS ONE IS BROKEN OUT SIMILAR TO THE GENERAL FUND, WHERE ON TOP YOU CAN SEE OUR SALARIES AND BENEFITS, ROUGHLY A $1 MILLION INCREASE.
THAT'S DUE TO THE NEW PERSONNEL, A NEW UTILITY CREW AND THE INCREASES IN SALARIES.
AND THEN BELOW THAT, YOU'LL SEE THE BREAKDOWN IN OPERATING EXPENSES BY DIVISION.
LARGE INCREASE IN UTILITY ADMINISTRATION.
I BELIEVE A LOT OF THAT IS CONSULTANTS TO COME IN AND HELP US WITH STUDIES.
WATER TREATMENT PLANT, VERY SIMILAR METER MAINTENANCE DOWN SLIGHTLY.
WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT VERY SIMILAR.
TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION OF WASTEWATER COLLECTIONS.
VERY SIMILAR ON THE OPERATING EXPENSE SIDE.
ON THE CAPITAL WE'VE GOT SOME NEW VEHICLES AND MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE BUYING.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL CAPITAL IS $1,244,616.
IT WENT FROM $2.7 MILLION TO $1.8 MILLION.
FOLLOWED BY OUR TRANSFERS AND THE DETAIL ON THAT.
THE UTILITY FUND TRANSFERS $3.2 MILLION TO THE GENERAL FUND.
TOTAL TRANSFERS OUT ON THE UTILITY FUND ARE $9,525,168.
PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH LAST YEAR.
AND YOU CAN SEE BASED ON THIS, WE ARE EXPECTING A FISCAL YEAR 2023 PROJECTED EXCESS OF $653,641.
ANY QUESTIONS ON PAGE 17? THE STORMWATER FUND IS RELATIVELY SMALL COMPARED TO THE UTILITY FUND AND WE ARE JUST RECOMMENDING AGAIN, A 4.4% INCREASE IN THE STORMWATER FUND. TO KEEP UP WITH THE CPI CONSUMER PRICE INDEX TOTAL BUDGET OF $1,545,273. AND THEN ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, YOU CAN SEE IT BROKEN OUT BETWEEN THE ACTUAL BUDGET ITSELF, THE TRANSFERS AND THE DEBT SERVICE.
AND THEN WE GET INTO THE DETAILS OF IN THE STORMWATER, WE'RE ABLE TO COMBINE REVENUES AND EXPENSES.
SMALL INCREASE FROM $1.3 MILLION TO $1.5 MILLION.
A LITTLE BIT OF INTEREST EARNINGS IN THE STORMWATER FUND WITH THEIR EXCESS CASH.
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YOU'LL NOTICE THE CAPITAL OUTLAYS HAVE A VERY LARGE FINAL BUDGET IN 2023.BUT THE OPERATING BUDGET ONLY CALLS FOR A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE OF $230,641.
AND BELOW THAT YOU CAN SEE OUR TRANSFERS IN AND OUT AND THAT WE DO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 WITH A MODEST SURPLUS OF $114,442 PROJECTED FOR 2023.
SO IN THE SENSE WHERE I HAVE A SENSE OF EXPEDIENCE HERE AND TIME, CAN YOU TELL US HOW MUCH LONGER YOU CAN YOU CAN YOU DO YOUR PRESENTATION IN THE NEXT HALF AN HOUR? OH, LESS THAN THAT.
IT'S THE GENERAL FUND AND THE UTILITY FUND ARE REALLY THE MOST COMPLICATED FUNDS TO DISCUSS SOLID WASTE THE MARINA AND AND WE'LL PROBABLY SPEND MAYBE FIVE TEN MINUTES ON VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER, BUT SOLID WASTE AND MARINA ARE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
OKAY. OKAY. JUST A 4.4% INCREASE IN BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, WHY DON'T WE SKIP OVER TO PAGE 24? AND WE CAN JUST LOOK AT THE SOLID WASTE NUMBERS AND YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR PROJECTION IS VERY CLOSE TO BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, AND WE ARE PROJECTING A SMALL SURPLUS OF $376,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 THAT WILL BE CONSUMED BY DEPRECIATION EXPENSE. SO WHEN I PRESENT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, IT PROBABLY WILL NOT BE AN EXCESS, BUT IT DEPENDS ON CAPITAL EXPENDITURES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SMALL INCREASE OF REVENUE TO $5.7 MILLION.
AND THEN OUR OPERATING EXPENSES OF $5.1 MILLION.
WE ARE STILL EXPERIENCING HIGH RATES AT THE TIPPING FEE LINE.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE TRANSFERS OUT THERE AND THE SOLID WASTE FUND.
VERY HAPPY THAT THIS FUND IS DOING SO MUCH BETTER THIS YEAR.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SOLID WASTE FUND? NO I'M GLAD YOU POINTED OUT THAT IT IS DOING A LOT BETTER THIS YEAR, AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT US SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE ACTED ON THEM. SO TWO YEARS OF TWO YEARS OF HIGH INCREASES IN A ROW AND I BELIEVE WE'RE WHERE WE NEED TO BE NOW.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT WITH THAT.
UM, LET'S JUST SKIP OVER TO PAGE 28 SO I CAN SPEND SOME TIME ON THE VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER.
MUNICIPAL MARINA IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
WE HAVE A HIGH DEMAND FOR BOTH DOCKAGE MOORING AND FUEL SALES.
A LITTLE BIT OF ELECTRICITY, BUT A $3.8 MILLION REVENUE BUDGET.
AND A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH GAS PRICES.
BOTH THE DIESEL AND THE GASOLINE.
THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE REDUCED BUDGET.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE HIGHER INTEREST TOTAL REVENUES OF RIGHT AT $4 MILLION AND THEN THE EXPENSES BROKEN DOWN BY SALARIES AND BENEFITS OPERATING AND CAPITAL THERE AT THE MARINA.
THE MAJORITY OF THAT WILL BE PAID FOR WITH GRANTS.
SO FOR 23, I'M PROJECTING RIGHT NOW FOR THAT FUND TO EARN $433,769 AND TO PLACE THAT IN RESERVES.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOU A RESERVE POLICY FOR THE MARINA FUND BECAUSE IT'S GOT SOME MASSIVE DEBT SERVICE REQUIREMENTS THAT AREN'T GOING TO COME DUE FOR OVER FIVE YEARS, MORE LIKE EIGHT YEARS.
WHY IS WHY IS THE NUMBER DOWN ON THE OPERATING REVENUE? THE FUEL COSTS.
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SO WE PAY LESS FOR IT AND WE CHARGE LESS.SO YOU SHOULD SEE A SIMILAR REDUCTION IN OPERATING EXPENSES FROM $3.6 MILLION DOWN TO $2.4 MILLION.
A LOT OF THAT IS YOUR COST OF GOODS SOLD RELATED TO FUEL SALES.
I'M GOING TO GO RIGHT TO THE NUMBERS ON PAGE 32.
YOU CAN SEE THE LARGE DRIVER OF THIS REVENUE INCREASE IS THE VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER PARKING FACILITY FEES FROM A $4 MILLION BUDGET, WHICH WE DO EXPECT TO EXCEED THAT BUDGET BY $750,000 UP TO $5.5 MILLION.
AND THAT'S TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THE THE $20 PAY ON ENTRY VERSUS $15 AND THEN A REDUCTION IN SOME REVENUES BECAUSE AFTER 5, WE'RE DROPPING THAT PRICE DRAMATICALLY TO TRY TO DRIVE FOLKS INTO OUR GARAGE VERSUS DRIVING THE STREETS LOOKING FOR A SPOT.
INTEREST EARNINGS WENT FROM $30,000 TO $175,000.
TOTAL REVENUE BUDGET FOR THE VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER, RIGHT AT $7 MILLION, UP FROM $5.2.
SO WE DO FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT ABOUT THIS REVENUE BUDGET.
AND THEN OUR DEBT SERVICE AND THE DEBT SERVICE IS THE ONE THAT DROPPED TO A MILLION AND A HALF, TAKES THE PRESSURE OFF THE HACRA AND ALLOWS THE HACRA TO DO MORE WITH ITS REVENUE.
SO PLEASED WITH PLEASED WITH THE DEBT SERVICE NUMBER.
BUT WE'VE INCREASED THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRANSFER FROM $400,000 TO $450,000, THE MOBILITY TRANSFER FROM $715,000 TO $750,000, AND THE MAINTENANCE SINKING FUND FROM $250,000 TO $300,000 A YEAR.
AND THEN THE $700,000 IS FOR THE REBUILDING OF RESERVES.
SO THAT'S THAT'S OUR PROJECTED PROFIT PER SE.
SO THE VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER IS DOING QUITE WELL.
NOW THE SLIDE ON PAGE 35, WE JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT EVERY YEAR WHAT THOSE HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRANSFERS ARE BEING USED FOR.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT GOES BACK TO 2017.
BUT IN THE 2024 BUDGET, JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE'VE GOT $155,000 BUDGETED IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR [INAUDIBLE] HOUSE RENOVATIONS BE OFFSET BY VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER REVENUES.
THE ARCHEOLOGICAL THE ARCHEOLOGY STAFFING IS OFFSET BY VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER REVENUES, THE REPAIRS TO THE VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER WINDOWS.
WE HAVE ITEMS BUDGETED IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR REPAIRS TO CITY MONUMENTS AND HISTORICAL SIGNS.
WE HELP THE UF PRESERVATION INSTITUTE, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS PISA $15,000.
THAT'S IN THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IT IS OFFSET BY A VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER REVENUES.
SO I'D BE HAPPY TO TO DISCUSS OR MEREDITH MIGHT BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL SOME OF THESE OTHER HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRANSFER ITEMS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? LOOKS GOOD TO ME. LOOKS GOOD TO ME.
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NOTIONS THAT WE USE THE REVENUE FROM THE CRA TO FUND HISTORIC PRESERVATION. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WIDELY KNOWN.THAT'S NOT CRA. WELL, FROM THE VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER REVENUES.
BUT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE CRA PAYS THE DEBT ON THE GARAGE.
SO THAT TAKES A LOT OF EXPENDITURE PRESSURE OFF THE GARAGE BECAUSE THE CRA IS PAYING THE DEBT.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT AND IT IS NICE TO NOT BURDEN THE AD VALOREM TAXPAYER WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE LIKE TO DO THAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES, BUT THAT ARE BEING PAID FOR BY THE VISITORS OF THE GARAGE.
SO IT DOES NEED TO BE HIGHLIGHTED.
ALL RIGHT. JUST TO ADD TO THAT.
THE VIC IS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND PARKING AND MOBILITY.
SO THERE'S A VERY SPECIFIC STRATEGIC TRANSFERS FROM THE VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER THAT WERE STARTED THAT HAVE BEEN CONTINUED AND INCREASED OVER THE YEARS SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE ITEMS. THAT'S RIGHT, YES.
SO, YES, IT WAS A VERY GOOD THING THAT IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE FOUND THIS, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE'RE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO PERMANENTLY FUND LONG TERM THE LAND ACQUISITION PROGRAM.
WE WERE ABLE TO FIND A LONG TERM FUNDING MECHANISM THAT DIRECTLY RELATED TO TOURISM AND HELPED US OFF SOMEWHAT. WE'RE SEARCHING FOR FUNDS FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION SPENDING, BUT ON THE ON THE NEEDS.
BUT ALSO WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO PAY FOR THE, NOW LOST MY THOUGHT.
SORRY. WELL, IT COVERS MOBILITY TOO HISTORIC PRESERVATION, ARCHEOLOGY, MOBILITY.
WELL, I GUESS MAYBE I JUST KIND OF GOT OFF TRACK A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE USING THE FUNDS FOR WHAT WE.
SO SPACEY. IT'S A LONG MEETING.
IT'S BEEN A LONG WEEK, SO I APOLOGIZE.
BUT WE HAVE REALLY BEEN WE KIND OF GOT TO A POINT WHERE WE WE WANTED JUST LIKE WE HAVE ALL THESE WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE IF WE WERE A RESIDENTIAL CITY, A NORMAL CITY, THE SIZE THAT WE ARE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE IMPACTS OF TOURISM, WHAT WERE THE COST OF THOSE IMPACTS AND HOW DID WE OFFSET THAT? HOW DID WE USE THAT TOURISM STREAM OF INCOME SOMEHOW TO OFFSET THOSE EXTRA COSTS ASSOCIATED? I MEAN, WE HAVE $84 MILLION BUDGET FOR A CITY THIS SIZE IS INCREDIBLE.
SO THIS IS REALLY WAS A BRILLIANT PLAN AND I PUT A LOT ON IT AND STAFF BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, MARK LITZINGER AND THE YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL SERVICES AND JOHN REGAN AND THE COMMISSION AT THE TIME.
SO IT IS A WONDERFUL WAY TO FUND THINGS.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE CRA DOES PAY THE DEBT DOWN, WHICH IS THE HOW MUCH WOULD THE GARAGE HAVE A HOUSE, THE MONEY. YEAH. IT PAYS FOR OUR HOUSE PAYMENT TO WHERE ALL OF OUR INCOME WE CAN USE.
SO BUT I DO LIKE, I LIKE THAT WE'RE PUTTING THE ARCHEOLOGY STAFFING IN HERE TOO, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A GOOD A PLACEHOLDER OR A GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS WE START LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE PROCEEDS FROM THE MIDDLE, THE MIDDLETON PROPERTY ON DOLPHIN DRIVE AND HOW WE PROCEED THERE WITH THAT SO THAT IT'S GOT A NICE SO NOW IT'S IN THERE IN MY MIND. SO I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT.
SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT IN THERE.
IT'S ALL GOOD. COULDN'T AGREE MORE.
I JUST WANT TO MENTION AS A PLACEHOLDER AND A REMINDER, I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD GO AHEAD WITH A ADDITIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSON.
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I GET A LOT OF EMAILS ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT, I'VE GOT TO BE HONEST, AND THAT THAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING RESPONSES IN A TIMELY MANNER.I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF THAT IS.
I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING AT THE LEVEL THAT WE WORK AS COMMISSIONERS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO RESPOND TO THE THAT REQUEST.
BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT FALLS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE TRAINED OFFICERS AND THEY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT, WOULD YOU LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT WORKS BEST? BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO LOOK COMING.
AND I ALSO TALKED TO THE ASSISTANT AND HE SAID THAT THEY PAID $10,000 FOR SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND GET THEM PREPARED FOR THIS BEFORE, HOWEVER, CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS THE EQUIPMENT AND THEY CAN DO IT.
BUT I AM ALSO RELUCTANT TO TELL STAFF A SPECIFIC DIRECTION TO GO IN JUST BECAUSE THERE IS EQUIPMENT INVOLVED AND THERE IS TRAINING INVOLVED AND IT'S BEING HOUSED OVER IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE'RE ASKING IT TO SWITCH TO A WHOLE NEW DEPARTMENT.
SO I WOULD IF YOU DON'T MIND IF WE WOULD LEAVE THAT REQUEST.
WHILE IT MAKES SENSE TO US IN CODE ENFORCEMENT, BUT LEAVE IT UP TO STAFF TO COME BACK AND GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE AND THEN ACCOMPLISHES OUR GOALS BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL KEEP MOVING THEN.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO COME AT A HUGE COST TO ANY OTHER BUDGET.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF. GO AHEAD.
OKAY. ONE, WHILE WE'RE LOOKING FOR MONEY FOR A HISTORIC PRESERVATION, IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT WHILE I WAS STUDYING THE AD VALOREM TAXES AND FEES, WE WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD INCOME FROM FRANCHISE FEES.
AND THE FRANCHISE FEES ARE ARE PRETTY MUCH THE TOUR TRAINS.
THE TOUR TRAINS ARE HERE SPECIFICALLY TO TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY.
IT SEEMS LIKE IN THIS RICH YEAR WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CARVE OUT SOME OF THE FRANCHISE FEES AND MOVE THAT TO HELP FUND SOME ADDITIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION LIKE WE ARE DOING WITH THE VIC.
THE SECOND THING IS THE CPI IS 4.4%.
BUT IF YOU TURN ON ANY CABLE NEWS CHANNEL, THEY'RE SAYING INFLATION IS 15 TO 20% THIS YEAR.
SO MAYBE AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE YOUR TIME.
YOU MIGHT EXPLAIN WHAT THE CPI IS SO THAT IT HOW IT PROPERLY REFLECTS THE INFLATION AND COST.
AND IT'S NOT THE INFLATION THAT WE HEAR ABOUT IN THE PUBLIC.
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. WELL, IF I CAN SKIP OVER THE CRA PORTION OF THE BUDGET BOOK, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT STARTING ON PAGE 41, THIS IS WHERE WE TIE OUR BUDGET TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND OUR VISION PLAN.
AND I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL READ IT RATHER THAN GO THROUGH IT LINE BY LINE WITH YOU, I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON PAGES 41, 42, 43.
IF I MAY, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK THIS IS ESSENTIAL AND I'M REALLY GLAD YOU DO THIS.
AND SO THANK YOU FOR LAYING IT OUT THAT PLAINLY.
THAT'S WHAT A FINANCIAL PLAN SHOULD DO ACHIEVE YOUR YOUR GOALS.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE. SO ANY TIME YOU NEED ANYTHING, PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL.
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WE'RE GOOD. OKAY.WHEN? THE QUESTION WHEN IS OUR NEXT BUDGET MEETING? BECAUSE THIS IS A YEAR LONG PROCESS, DECEMBER 14TH AND THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 28TH.
WE MEET AT 5:05 ON THE 14TH, I BELIEVE WILL CONVENE THE CRA AT 4:30 AND PASS THE CRA BUDGET FIRST.
WHAT TIME DO WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR THE 14TH? I WON'T BE HERE ON THE 14TH.
FOR THE CITY'S GENERAL BUDGET? YES 4:30 FOR THE CRA BUDGET.
WAIT. START OVER. CAN YOU JUST START WITH THE 14TH AND TELL ME EXACTLY WHEN? WHAT TIME? 4:30 CRA, 5:05 CITY BUDGET.
I WILL NOT I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE HERE AT 4:30.
YEP. BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS SUBMIT COMMENTS TO US AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THEY'RE ADDRESSED.
IT'S NOT A WORKSHOP SETTING LIKE THIS.
SO ANYTHING THAT COMES UP BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT A REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING.
IT'S TYPICALLY A 10 TO 15 MINUTE MEETING, A COUPLE OF ORDINANCES, A COUPLE GAVEL BANGS.
AND IT'S NOT A LENGTHY MEETING TYPICALLY.
SO I KNOW I HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T GOING TO BE THERE.
SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE OTHER THREE BE PRESENT BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL STATUTORILY TIME SENSITIVE TYPE HEARINGS . I WILL BE HERE FOR THE 5:05 MEETING, JUST NOT THE 4:30 CRA MEETING ON THE 14TH.
SO WE'LL NEED TO DO SOME OUTREACH TO THE VICE MAYOR AND MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE.
AND THE OTHER TWO, BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR QUORUM.
AND THEN SO YOU HAD THE 14TH AND THEN THE ONE, WHAT IS THE NEXT ONE? THE 28TH AT 5:05.
AND THAT'S JUST THE CITY FINAL BUDGET, FINAL MILLAGE RATE, FINAL BUDGET OKAY. YEP.
ANY OTHER? EVERYTHING GOOD? ALL RIGHT, THEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU SPEND WITH US.
AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.