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I'M CALLING THIS MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO ORDER.

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MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

WE HAVE FIRST UP, WE HAVE PASTOR MIKE BELCHER FROM GRACE COMMUNITY CHURCH TO LEAD OUR INVOCATION AND WILL BE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY VICE MAYOR ROXANNE HORVATH.

WILL YOU PLEASE STAND? LET US PRAY. DEAR LORD GOD, OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE COME TO YOU IN JESUS'S NAME TONIGHT.

JUST ASKING YOU, FATHER, AS THESE GATHERED TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THE BUSINESS OF THIS BEAUTIFUL TOWN OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FATHER, THAT YOU WOULD JUST BE WITH EACH ONE AND GRANT THEM WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE FATHER, FOR EVERY DECISION THERE'S GOING TO BE MADE.

FATHER, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH THIS MEETING AND LET IT BE DONE IN A PEACEFUL MANNER AND LORD IN A MANNER THAT WOULD BE PLEASING UNTO YOUR SIGHT.

WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THESE THINGS AND ASK YOU FOR THEM.

IN JESUS, PRECIOUS AND HOLY NAME, WE PRAY.

AMEN. AMEN.

PLEASE JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED.

THANK YOU, PASTOR.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

RIGHT. NEXT ITEM ARE ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS, MODIFICATION APPROVAL OF REGULAR AGENDA?

[2. ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS]

DO YOU HAVE ANY? DOES ANYONE HAVE MODIFICATIONS TO THE AGENDA? I DO MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD UNDER CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON THE SCHAFFER LITIGATION.

SO NOTED.

ANY OTHER MODIFICATIONS? HEARING NONE, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. SECOND.

OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED.

OKAY. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION.

[3.A. Proclamation 2023-27: Proclaims August 23, 2023 a Day for the Remembrance of the Slave Trade and its Abolition. (C. Garris, Commissioner) ]

WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION TONIGHT.

IT'S GOING TO BE LED BY COMMISSIONER GARRIS, AND IT WILL BE FOR THE DAY OF REMEMBRANCE OF THE SLAVE TRADE AND ITS ABOLITION. EXCELLENT.

SO SHALL WE JOIN YOU? OKAY. THERE IS A HANDHELD MIC HERE.

WHEREAS AUGUST 23RD IS DECLARED BY THE UNITED NATIONS AS AN INTERNATIONAL DAY FOR THE REMEMBRANCE OF THE SLAVE TRADE AND ITS ABOLITION.

AND. WHEREAS, THE 1565 SETTLEMENT OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BY PEDRO MENÉNDEZ DE AVILÉS AS THE FIRST PERMANENT EUROPEAN OUTPOST COMPOSED OF FREE ENSLAVED AFRICANS, EUROPEANS AND NATIVE PEOPLE ON THE NORTH AMERICAN MAINLAND.

AND. WHEREAS, SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA HAS TWO SITES OF MEMORY DESIGNATED BY THE UNESCO ROUTES OF ENSLAVED PEOPLE THE PORT OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND GARCIA REAL DE SANTA TERESA DE MOSE, FORT MOSE.

AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE GRANTED SANCTUARY AS A SITE OF REFUGE FOR MENORCAN AND GREEK PEOPLE INDENTURED AND OFFICIALLY ENSLAVED WEST AFRICANS AT THEIR TURNBULL PLANTATIONS IN NEW SMYRNA.

AND. WHEREAS, SAINT AUGUSTINE SERVED AS A MIDDLE PASSAGE PORT OF ENTRY UNDER BRITISH RULE AND WITH THE ARRIVAL OF NINE DOCUMENTED VESSELS DELIVERING MORE THAN 1200 CAPTIVE AMERICANS, CAPTIVE AFRICANS BETWEEN 1767 AND 1776 TO THE COLONY.

AND. WHEREAS, SAINT AUGUSTINE AND SURROUNDING REGIONS REFLECTED THE MOST DIVERSE REPRESENTATION OF AFRICAN ETHNIC GROUPS ON THE NORTH AMERICAN MAINLAND BETWEEN 1809 AND 1860 BECAUSE OF ITS COASTAL FRONTIER AND ACCESS TO THE EVERGLADES AS PLACES OF OPPORTUNITY FOR ESCAPE FROM SLAVERY, FROM CAPTIVES AND OTHER TERRITORIES.

AND. WHEREAS, THE ANCESTRAL REMEMBRANCE CEREMONY AND HISTORIC MARKERS IN SAINT AUGUSTINE PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF A HISTORY SHARED WITH 69 DOCUMENTED MIDDLE PASSAGE ARRIVALS LOCATIONS FROM MAINE TO TEXAS.

NOW, THEREFORE, THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE DOES HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND PROCLAIM AUGUST 23RD, 2023,

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AS THE DAY OF REMEMBRANCE OF THE SLAVE TRADE AND ITS ABOLITION, AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS TO NOW AND ALWAYS TO HAVE REVERENT RESPECT FOR THE AFRICANS WHOSE LIVES WERE STOLEN AND FOR THOSE WHO ENDURED SLAVERY AND INDENTURED SERVITUDE AND WITNESSED THAT WHEREAS I HERE TO SET MY HAND AND DO CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, TO AFFIX THIS 14TH DAY OF AUGUST IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 2023, AND THE 457TH YEAR OF THE FOUNDING OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, THE NATION'S OLDEST CITY, SIGNED BY OUR MAYOR, NANCY SIKES-KLINE.

CAN YOU COME FORWARD? WE SO APPRECIATE YOU.

HERE'S YOUR AWARD.

YES, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AND MAYOR AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSION.

WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU ALL.

WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU ALL TO JOIN US ON AUGUST 23RD AT THE PLAZA DE LA CONSTITUCION FOR A COMMEMORATIVE.

IT'S NOT A CELEBRATION, BUT A COMMEMORATION OF THIS DAY IS BEING CELEBRATED OR COMMEMORATED AROUND THE WORLD AT THIS SAME TIME.

AND SO THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, THIS WILL BE OUR SECOND YEAR ACTUALLY PARTICIPATING, THANKS TO PHYLLIS BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION.

AND WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE FROM THE MIDDLE PASSAGE WHO WILL BE JOINING US.

AND COMMISSIONER, I HOPE YOU'LL BE THERE TO JOIN US AS WELL.

AND WE WILL HAVE SOME AFRICAN DRUMMING AND SOME OTHER CEREMONIAL THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN.

IT'S ONLY A 30 MINUTE PROGRAM.

SO IF YOU ARE ABLE TO COME RIGHT AFTER WORK.

IT'S FROM THAT I GET THE TIME WRONG, 5 TO 530.

THANK YOU. SO WE INVITE YOU ALL TO COME AND JOIN US AT THAT TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR.

I DON'T KNOW IF MANY OF YOU REALIZE, BUT THERE ARE PORTS IN WHICH THOSE SLAVE SHIPS ARRIVED.

AND EVERY YEAR WITH RESEARCH, THEY'RE ADDING MORE PORTS TO THE MIDDLE PASSAGE MARKERS.

SO THIS IS A UNESCO WORLD HERITAGE SITE, THE ENTIRE EAST COAST OF THE AMERICAS.

AND THOUGH WE'VE BEEN PARTICIPATING FOR ABOUT 11 YEARS, THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW THAT WE ARE COMING TOGETHER AND OF PEOPLE OF FAITH AND FROM CIVIL ORGANIZATIONS COMING TOGETHER IN ORDER TO REMEMBER ALL OUR ANCESTORS, BUT ESPECIALLY THOSE WHOSE BONES LINE THE FLOOR OF THE ATLANTIC OCEAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GAIL.

AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR SPONSORING THE BILL.

WE APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH.

MR. JACKSON, IF YOU CAN COME UP WITH A PICTURE.

I WAS REALLY WAITING FOR MR. JACKSON. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I MEAN, THIS GOES IT GOES SO FAR IN TERMS OF RACIAL HEALING IN THIS CITY.

AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT, SO GRATEFUL FOR THE COMMISSION TO RECOGNIZE THIS AND TO SET ASIDE THIS DAY FOR THAT.

SO THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH.

WELL, COME ON, TOM.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PROJECT NOW FOR SINCE 2015 WHEN WE HAD THE 450TH.

AND THIS IS A PROJECT THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED.

AND NEXT WEEK, THE 23RD, WE'LL BE HAVING A CEREMONY DOWN AT THE PLAZA AND COME ON DOWN AT 430, 5:00.

WELL, 430, WE'LL START THE DRUMMING.

OH, VERY GOOD. YEAH. AND THEN THE JUDGING AND THEN PROGRAM STARTS AT FIVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

RIGHT.

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ALL RIGHT. WE'RE MOVING ON TO.

EXCUSE ME COMMENTS.

[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS OR FOR AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING]

PUBLIC COMMENTS.

COMMENTS IS OPEN.

OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS CHRIS BULMER, FOLLOWED BY HOLLY DOUCETTE.

GOOD EVENING. CHRIS FULMER, I LIVE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING THE INTERNATIONAL DAY FOR REMEMBRANCE OF THE SLAVE TRADE AND ITS ABOLITION.

FOR SOME REASON, THE ABOLITION OF SLAVERY IS NOT REALLY CELEBRATED IN THE US AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO PREFER TO CELEBRATE THE TIME WHEN SLAVERY WAS LEGAL WHILE PRETENDING THAT IT WAS AN ACCEPTABLE SOMETHING LIKE JOB TRAINING.

I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THIS.

I HAVE TOLD THIS STORY BEFORE.

THE NEW PEOPLE HAVE NOT HEARD IT.

WHEN DOING OUR GENEALOGY, I FOUND THE BRANCH OF OUR FAMILY THAT WAS HERE IN THE 1700S THAT FOUGHT IN THE REVOLUTION THAT SETTLED IN MISSISSIPPI.

I KNEW FROM FAMILY HISTORY THAT THERE WERE RELATIVELY WEALTHY FOR THEIR SMALL TOWN, THAT THEY WERE SLAVEHOLDERS.

SO IT WASN'T MUCH OF A SHOCK TO READ THE CENSUS RECORDS AND FIND THE HOUSEHOLD, THE HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD, THE SPOUSE, THE CHILDREN.

AND IN A SEPARATE COLUMN, THE ENSLAVED PEOPLE, NINE MALE AND NINE FEMALE.

BUT WHAT TORE MY HEART OUT WAS THE 1890 CENSUS, WHERE THEY HAD THE HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD, MY GREAT GRANDFATHER, HIS SPOUSE, AND UNDER THEIR NAMES A 12 YEAR OLD GIRL NAMED MILLIE, BLACK FEMALE.

SHE HAS NO LAST NAME.

SHE IS ENUMERATED WITH HER EMPLOYER'S FAMILY IN THE JIM CROW SOUTH.

IMAGINE YOUR CHILD NOT BEING COUNTED AS YOUR CHILD, BUT WITH THE FAMILY THEY WORKED FOR, IT'S UNFATHOMABLE.

1900, 3 KIDS.

MILLIE IS 22, 1910.

FIVE CHILDREN STILL IN THE HOME, MILLIE'S 32, 1920, GREAT GRANDMOTHERS, A WIDOW WITH ONE CHILD IN THE HOME AND MILLIE IS 42.

DOES THIS WOMAN HAVE A HUSBAND? DOES SHE HAVE A FAMILY? DOES SHE HAVE CHILDREN? IN JIM CROW, MISSISSIPPI, SHE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A POSSESSION OF HER EMPLOYER AND DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE DIGNITY OF A LAST NAME.

IT'S UNBELIEVABLE TO ME THAT THIS WAS ALLOWED AND EVEN MORE UNBELIEVABLE THAT PEOPLE LOOK BACK ON THAT ERA WITH FONDNESS AND A DESIRE TO GO BACK TO THE GOOD OLD DAYS.

THIS IS THE REAL HISTORY THAT NEEDS TO BE TAUGHT.

DR. JANE ELLIOTT, WHO'S KNOWN FOR HER BLUE EYES BROWN EYES EXPERIMENT, FAMOUSLY ASKS THE QUESTION, IF YOU AS A WHITE PERSON WANT TO BE TREATED THE WAY BLACK PEOPLE IN OUR SOCIETY ARE TREATED, PLEASE STAND UP.

AND OF COURSE, NO ONE EVER STANDS.

SHE THEN SAYS THAT SAYS VERY PLAINLY THAT YOU KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING.

YOU KNOW YOU DON'T WANT IT FOR YOU.

I WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU ARE SO WILLING TO ACCEPT IT OR ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN FOR OTHERS.

IF YOU ARE EVER NEAR MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA, TRY TO VISIT THE NATIONAL MUSEUM FOR PEACE AND JUSTICE.

THAT'S THERE. CHARLESTON HAS A NEW INTERNATIONAL AFRICAN-AMERICAN MUSEUM IN WASHINGTON, D.C.

THERE IS A NATIONAL MUSEUM OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY AND CULTURE.

TAKE THE TIME.

LEARN THE REAL HISTORY OF OUR NATION.

SUMMER SEASON IS MOSTLY OVER.

SCHOOL IS BACK IN SESSION.

THERE ARE PARKING SPOTS OUTSIDE SUPPORT TEACHERS, AND PLEASE VOTE FOR POLITICIANS WHO SUPPORT PUBLIC EDUCATION.

DRIVE SAFELY.

TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT THE HISTORIC CITY WHEN IT'S RELATIVELY EMPTY.

SHOP AND EAT LOCAL.

BE POLITE TO YOUR SERVERS.

TIP THE WAITSTAFF.

BE KIND. THANK YOU, HOLLY.

I'LL ASK YOU TO HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU.

HOLLY DOUCETTE, FOLLOWED BY VICKY PEPPER.

NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

HI, I'M HOLLY DOUCETTE.

I LIVE ON 13 MARYLAND AVENUE, AND MY CONCERN IS ABOUT THE FIRE STATION THAT THE CITY WANTS TO BUILD AT THE END OF MY STREET.

I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

HAVE YOU PASSED ANOTHER RESOLUTION TO ACQUIRE OR LEASE THE STATE LAND OR TO DONATE CITY LAND? OR ARE YOU RELYING ON THE RESOLUTION OF 202301 WHICH ONLY AUTHORIZES THE LEASE OF LAND? ALSO, HAVE YOU IDENTIFIED ANY CITY LAND TO SWAP FOR THE STATE PARK LAND OR SUPPORT A LEASE OF THAT LAND? WHAT LAND HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED OR OFFERED? HAVE YOU VALUED THE LAND TO DETERMINE THE VALUE OF THE LAND TO BE SWAPPED OR DONATED? WHAT ARE THOSE VALUES? HAVE YOU REVIEWED YOUR OWN FLOOD ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE EXISTING FIRE STATION HAS EVER FLOODED BECAUSE IT'S ADVERTISED THAT IT WAS IT HASN'T EVER FLOODED? AND ON YOUR OWN FLOOD ANALYSIS ON THE CITY WEBSITE CONFIRMS THAT.

AND SINCE DOT HAS APPROVED A CROSSWALK AT THE AMP, HOW ABOUT USING THE POLICE TO START TARGETING THE SPEEDERS ON A-1-A, WHICH IS THE REAL SAFETY CONCERN, NOT THE RED COX INTERSECTION? IF YOU SLOW DOWN PEOPLE BEFORE THEY GET TO THAT INTERSECTION, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM THERE.

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PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY GOING 55 MILES AN HOUR ACCORDING TO THE STUDIES THAT WERE DONE.

SO WHY HAVEN'T YOU ACTIVELY PUT SOME POLICE OUT THERE TO STOP PEOPLE FROM SPEEDING? THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS I HAVE.

THANK YOU, MISS VICKY PEPPER.

FOLLOWED BY SCOTT ROBINSON.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS VICKI PEPPER.

ADDRESS, PLEASE.

PARDON. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

RIGHT. I'M GETTING TO THAT.

OKAY. I WAS JUST.

ALL RIGHT. SALUTATIONS.

I BEG YOUR PARDON? OKAY.

I LIVE ON HARBOR VISTA CIRCLE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING MYSELF AS A CITIZEN OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND CARE COMMUNITY ADVOCATES FOR RACIAL EQUITY.

WE'RE AN INFORMAL, INDEPENDENT CIVIC ACTION GROUP THAT GREW OUT OF SAINT AUGUSTINE'S ONGOING COMMUNITY CONVERSATION EFFORT.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER GARRIS FOR HER LEADERSHIP AND THE CITY COMMISSION FOR RECOGNIZING AND PROCLAIMING AUGUST 23RD, 2023 IS A DAY FOR REMEMBRANCE OF THE SLAVE TRADE AND ITS ABOLITION.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS TO HAVE REVERENT RESPECT FOR THOSE LIVES THAT WERE STOLEN AND FOR THOSE WHO ENDURED SLAVERY AND INDENTURED SERVITUDE.

SECOND, WE STILL NEED A PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY TO PROVIDE THE NEW TOOLS ACCESS TO ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDING AND FOCUS THAT WILL INCREASE OUR CAPACITY TO ADDRESS OUR EVER GROWING AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS.

CITY COMMISSION RECOGNIZED THIS WHEN, ON SEPTEMBER 12TH OF LAST YEAR, YOU UNANIMOUSLY PASSED RESOLUTION 20 2231.

IN MY CAPACITY AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY CONTINUUM OF CARE, I'VE LEARNED THAT PORT IN THE STORM, SAINT JOHNS COUNTY'S ONLY HOMELESS SHELTER FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AGED 18 TO 24, IS BURSTING AT THE SEAMS AND TO THE POINT OF HAVING TO TURN AWAY THE YOUTH IN NEED.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO RESEARCH THIS ISSUE, BUT CARE LEARNED RECENTLY THERE'S FEDERAL FEDERAL HOUSING VOUCHER PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY AVAILABLE TO YOUNG PEOPLE, INCLUDING ESPECIALLY THOSE AGING OUT OF THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM.

HOWEVER, THESE VOUCHERS ARE RECEIVED AND MUST BE ADMINISTERED BY THE LOCAL PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ONE OF IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, CARES NOT GIVEN UP ON THE COUNTY DESPITE THE BOX THREE TO VOTE NOT TO PROCEED WITH THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY ON JANUARY 17TH.

BUT WE ALSO CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THERE COULD BE ADVANTAGES FOR ALL JURISDICTIONS IF THE CITY TOOK THE NOMINAL LEAD ON ESTABLISHING A SAINT JOHNS COUNTY PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH THAT MAYOR SIKES-KLINE WOULD APPOINT THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY'S GOVERNING COMMISSIONERS INSTEAD OF GOVERNOR DESANTIS.

I SAY NOMINALLY BECAUSE ESTABLISHING A CHA COULD AND SHOULD BE A COLLABORATIVE PROJECT BETWEEN ALL THREE JURISDICTIONS AND EMPLOYING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT.

PLEASE CONTINUE TO KEEP OPEN MINDS ON THIS ISSUE SO THAT SAINT JOHNS COUNTY PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY CAN BE ESTABLISHED ON BEHALF OF ALL SAINT OF THE CITIZENS OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

AND STAY TUNED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS SCOTT ROBINSON, FOLLOWED BY MAYA SNYDER.

GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.

SCOTT ROBINSON, 13 MARYLAND AVENUE.

THANK YOU. FIRST, MADAM MAYOR, FOR DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I AND MY NEIGHBORS POSED EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON AT THE SPECIAL MEETING.

AND THANK YOU AS WELL COMMISSIONER BLONDER FOR ASKING MR. BIRCHIM TO CONTINUE TO KEEP US APPRIZED OR BEGIN TO KEEP US APPRIZED AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON.

I WAS STRUCK AT THE EARLIER MEETING BY THE EFFORTS THAT THIS COUNCIL MADE AND SHOULD BE APPLAUDED FOR IN SETTING ASIDE FUNDS TO ACQUIRE CONSERVATION PROPERTY.

THE STRATEGIC PLAN OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE CLEARLY SETS THAT AS A HIGH USE.

SO IT'S SOMEWHAT IRONIC TO ME THAT THE CITY CONTINUES TO PURSUE ACQUIRING PROPERTY WITHIN THE STATE PARK, SHRINKING THE STATE PARK AS A RESULT THEREOF, TAKING LAND THAT'S CURRENTLY CONSERVATION LAND AND DEVELOPING THAT LAND.

THAT'S THE DIRECT OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU ALL WERE APPLAUDING YOURSELVES FOR DOING EARLIER.

WHAT YOU SHOULD DO IS PRESERVE CONSERVATION LAND.

NOW, WE WERE TOLD THE REASON A FIRE STATION WAS NEEDED WAS TWOFOLD.

NUMBER ONE, THAT IT FLOODED.

WELL, AS MS..

DOUCETTE HAS POINTED OUT, IT'S NEVER FLOODED.

IT'S NOT EVEN IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.

SO THAT REASON WAS SPECIOUS.

THE SECOND REASON WAS THAT IT WASN'T LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE AN AMBULANCE.

WELL, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, THE CITY FIRE SERVICES DO NOT PROVIDE AMBULANCES.

SO THE WEBSITE THAT SUPPORTS THE BUILDING OF THIS FIRE STATION SAYS YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD AN AMBULANCE BAY.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT WHEN THE COUNTY HAS THE SOLE CONTRACT TO TRANSPORT AND HANDLE AMBULANCES?

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SO, AGAIN, IT'S A SPECIOUS REASON.

THE THIRD REASON AND WHAT WE WERE TOLD BY MR. BERTRAM WAS BECAUSE THE DOT HAD IDENTIFIED THAT INTERSECTION AS BEING UNSAFE.

WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THEY JUST DID THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTED AND DURING WHICH WE WERE TOLD THAT THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE HAS NEVER CONTACTED THE DOT ABOUT THE DANGERS AT THAT INTERSECTION OR DURING THAT STREET.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE REPORT, THEY'VE DONE ALL OF THE ACCIDENTS AND INJURIES THAT HAVE OCCURRED HAVE OCCURRED IN THE STRETCH DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE AMPHITHEATER.

SLOWING DOWN THE TRAFFIC, POSTING POLICE OFFICERS THERE TO SLOW THAT TRAFFIC DOWN WILL STOP ANY PROBLEMS THAT THE SUPPOSED DANGEROUS INTERSECTION OF RED COX ROAD. THE LAST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS THIS CITY OWNS A LOT OF PROPERTY.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTIES WHERE YOU COULD BUILD A FIRE STATION AND STILL COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE CHARTER OF THIS CITY TO PRESERVE CONSERVATION LAND, BUILD A FIRE STATION THERE, OR LEAVE THE FIRE STATION WHERE IT IS.

DON'T TAKE CONSERVATION LAND TO DO IT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT SPEAKER MAYA SNYDER, FOLLOWED BY BJ KALAIDI.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MIA SNYDER, AND I LIVE ON WINDWARD WAY.

UM, I'M A SENIOR AT SAINT AUGUSTINE HIGH SCHOOL, AND I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF COMPASSIONATE SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ONGOING EFFORTS FOR OUR HOMELESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I'D LIKE TO READ ALOUD THE CHARTER FOR COMPASSION AND THE MISSION STATEMENT FOR COMPASSIONATE SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THE PRINCIPLE OF COMPASSION LIES AT THE HEART OF ALL RELIGIOUS, ETHICAL AND SPIRITUAL TRADITIONS, CALLING US ALWAYS TO TREAT ALL OTHERS AS WE WISH TO BE TREATED OURSELVES. COMPASSION IMPELS US TO WORK TIRELESSLY TO ALLEVIATE THE SUFFERING OF OUR FELLOW CREATURES, TO DETHRONE OURSELVES FROM THE CENTER OF OUR WORLD AND PUT ANOTHER THERE, AND TO HONOR THE INVIOLABLE SANCTITY OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING.

TREATING EVERYBODY, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, WITH ABSOLUTE JUSTICE, EQUITY AND RESPECT.

IT IS ALSO NECESSARY IN BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE LIFE TO REFRAIN CONSISTENTLY AND EMPATHETICALLY FROM INFLICTING PAIN, TO ACT OR SPEAK VIOLENTLY OUT OF SPITE, CHAUVINISM OR SELF INTEREST TO IMPOVERISH, EXPLOIT OR DENY BASIC RIGHTS TO ANYBODY, AND TO INCITE HATRED BY DENIGRATING OTHERS, EVEN OUR ENEMIES IS A DENIAL OF OUR COMMON HUMANITY.

WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE FAILED TO LIVE COMPASSIONATELY AND THAT SOME HAVE EVEN INCREASED THE SUM OF HUMAN SUFFERING IN THE NAME OF RELIGION.

WE THEREFORE CALL UPON ALL MEN AND WOMEN TO RESTORE COMPASSION TO THE CENTER OF MORALITY AND RELIGION, TO RETURN TO THE ANCIENT PRINCIPLE THAT ANY INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE THAT BREEDS VIOLENCE, HATRED OR DISDAIN IS ILLEGITIMATE.

TO ENSURE THAT YOUTH ARE GIVEN ACCURATE AND RESPECTFUL INFORMATION ABOUT OTHER TRADITIONS, RELIGIONS AND CULTURES, TO ENCOURAGE A POSITIVE APPRECIATION OF CULTURAL AND RELIGIOUS DIVERSITY, TO CULTIVATE AND INFORMED EMPATHY WITH THE SUFFERING OF ALL HUMAN BEINGS, EVEN THOSE REGARDED AS ENEMIES.

WE URGENTLY NEED TO MAKE COMPASSION A CLEAR, LUMINOUS AND DYNAMIC FORCE IN OUR POLARIZED WORLD, ROOTED IN A PRINCIPLED DETERMINATION TO TRANSCEND SELFISHNESS.

COMPASSION CAN BREAK DOWN POLITICAL, DOGMATIC, IDEOLOGICAL AND RELIGIOUS BOUNDARIES.

BORN OF OUR DEEP INTERDEPENDENCE.

COMPASSION IS ESSENTIAL TO HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS AND TO A FULFILLED HUMANITY.

IT IS THE PATH TO ENLIGHTENMENT AND INDISPENSABLE TO THE CREATION OF A JUST ECONOMY AND A PEACEFUL GLOBAL COMMUNITY.

ESTABLISHED IN GENEVA, SWITZERLAND, IN FEBRUARY 2009 AND THE MISSION STATEMENT FOR COMPASSIONATE SAINT AUGUSTINE IS INFLUENCING, INSPIRING AND GROWING A CULTURE OF COMPASSION THROUGH ADVOCACY, AWARENESS AND ACTION ESTABLISHED IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2013.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

UM, THE LAST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS BJ KALAIDI.

THE WEST CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. TEN A WHICH USED TO BE 11 A.

WHAT IS THE REASON THE 501 C3 CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL AT 155 STATE ROUTE 207 WANTS TO BECOME PART OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

USUALLY DEVELOPERS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE TO DEVELOP OUTSIDE OF WHAT SAINT JOHNS COUNTY WILL ALLOW.

RAISING UTILITY FEES RATES WILL WHILE PAYING WATER BILLS OF 16 CITY EMPLOYEES OR 11,520 TAX DOLLARS A YEAR IS DISGRACEFUL.

SOME INDIVIDUALS LIVE ON LESS THAN $11,520 EARNED A YEAR 23.40% OF

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PROPERTIES IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE DO NOT PAY PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH IS 764,116,703 TAX DOLLARS NOT COLLECTED TO MAKE UP FOR THIS, THE LOSS, RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE PAY CITY, COUNTY AND FIRE TAXES.

CITY HOME RULE PREVENTS FIREWORKS IN THE CITY LIMITS.

YET MANY WEST CITY RESIDENTS WHERE I LIVE, SUCH AS OTIS MASON, IGNORE THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO VIOLATE ANY ORDINANCES.

AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I WANT TO SAY THIS AFTERNOON IS THANK YOU, MISS PEACHES, ALSO KNOWN AS PATRICIA AND ALL OF THE STAFF IN THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT.

SHE WAS RECOGNIZED IN NEWS AND NOTES, AND I GET THAT FROM OTHER PEOPLE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AND TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO START CALLING MISS PATRICIA, MISS PEACHES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[5. CONSENT AGENDA]

MR. CITY MANAGER.

THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR AUGUST 14TH.

THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCES ARE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR SECOND READING ON AUGUST 28TH.

ORDINANCE 2023-24 CLARIFIES THE CODE AS IT PERTAINS TO PARTIAL DEMOLITIONS.

ORDINANCE 2023-25.

INCREASING THRESHOLDS FOR COMPETITIVE BIDS.

REMINDER OF UPCOMING MEETINGS.

AUGUST 21ST, 2023 AT 9 A.M..

A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE PROPOSED NIGHTLIFE ORDINANCE.

AUGUST 24TH AT 9 A.M..

SPECIAL MEETING OF THE 2024 TENTATIVE BUDGET AND ACTION ITEMS. AUGUST 25TH AT 9 A.M.

IF NEEDED.

SPECIAL MEETING OF THE 2024 TENTATIVE BUDGET AND ACTION ITEMS. IN AUGUST 28TH AT 5 P.M., A REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PRIOR COMMISSION MEETINGS INCLUDE THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF JUNE 12TH, THE SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF JUNE 21ST.

THE SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF JULY 10TH AND THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF JULY 10TH.

WE HAVE A RELEASE OF LIEN FOR UNIT CONNECTION FEE MORTGAGES FOR 941 WEST NINTH STREET.

JEROME HOPE.

AND WE HAVE AN INVOICE FOR PAYMENT TO CAVENDISH PARTNERS PA IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,653 FOR QUIET TITLE LAWSUIT FOR 86,008 ANDERSON STREET.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO. I MOVE TO APPROVE.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE? AYE. THANK YOU.

CONSENT AGENDA IS PASSED.

LET'S MOVE ON TO.

NINE A, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND A

[8.A.1. Ordinance 2023-23: Vacates a portion of Depot Street between 194 West King Street (PID 1111900000), 198 West King Street (PID 1112000000) and 35 North Ponce de Leon Boulevard (PID 1111300000). (A. Skinner, Director Planning and Building)]

GENERAL PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.

NO, MADAM MAYOR, I THINK WE'RE ON 8A1, WHICH IS ORDINANCE 20, 2323.

NOT IN MY PACKAGE.

NOT IN MY PACKAGE.

WHAT ARE YOU ONLINE? YEAH, I'M ON. SO IT'S DIFFERENT IN THE PACKAGE THAN WHAT'S ONLINE.

SO WE WILL GO WITH WHAT'S ONLINE, WHICH IS? YOU'RE TELLING ME IT'S A 8A1, WHICH IS ORDINANCE 2023-23.

CORRECT, AND IT'S A REQUEST TO VACATE A PORTION OF DEPOT STREET.

AND I BELIEVE. YES.

AMY SKINNER WILL BE DOING THE PRESENTATION.

YES. NINE A ON THIS, RIGHT? YES. THE PRINTED PACKAGES ARE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S ONLINE.

SO WE'LL TAKE THE CITY MANAGER'S WORD FOR IT AND GO WITH WHAT'S ONLINE, SINCE THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN PUBLICLY ADVERTISED.

EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS AMY SKINNER.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

THIS ITEM IS ORDINANCE 2023-23, WHICH IS THE ORDINANCE PROPOSING TO VACATE DEPOT STREET NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF US ONE OR PONCE DE LEON BOULEVARD AND WEST KING STREET.

THIS ITEM WAS PRESENTED AS A PETITION TO REQUEST THE STREET VACATION AT THE JULY 26TH CITY COMMISSION MEETING AND PASSED ON FIRST READING AT THE JULY

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AT EXCUSE ME, AT THE JUNE 26TH CITY COMMISSION MEETING AND PASSED ON FIRST READING AT THE JULY 10TH CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

DEPOT STREET IS A REMNANT RIGHT OF WAY SURROUNDED BY PROPERTY ASSOCIATED WITH THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BROWDY PROJECT AT WHAT IS NOW KNOWN AS 194 AND 198 WEST KING STREET AND 35 NORTH PONCE DE LEON BOULEVARD.

THIS IS A SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

ON THE. ITEM WILL GO TO PUBLIC HEARING.

THEN I HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FROM MS..

KALAIDI. BJ KALAIDI, WEST CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THE ORIGINAL ONE THAT WE HAD TO MAYOR WAS A 9A1.

AND THE NEW ONES THAT HAVE BEEN PRINTED UP IN THE BACK IS THIS ITEM IS 8A1.

IT'S THE SAME ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 23 AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT.

I'M GOING TO GO INTO IT BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT PORTION OF DEPOT STREET BETWEEN 194 WEST KING, WHICH IS THE AUTO SHOP THAT'S BEEN SOLD FOR $1 MILLION, AND 198 WEST KING, WHICH ABUTS DEPOT SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN TO A DEVELOPER.

AND THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO TRY AND DO THE CRA FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.

AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO SAY THIS UNTIL THIS COMES TO FRUITION.

IT MIGHT BE A COUPLE OF YEARS. I DON'T KNOW.

UM, TIME WILL TELL IF THE GARAGE IS BUILT FIRST AND THAT SHOULD BE DONE.

THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE OVER THERE.

THE DEVELOPER AND WHOEVER COMES IN THERE AND BUILDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR ANYTHING ELSE, RETAIL OR WHATEVER SHOULD NOT BE FIRST.

THE FIRST THING IS BECAUSE WE NEED THE GARAGE AND THAT'S HOW IT WAS ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED FOR YEARS.

SO LET'S GET THE GARAGE DONE BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE IS PUT IN OVER THERE.

AND I HOPE WHATEVER HAPPENS ON DEPOT STREET, WE, THE CITIZENS, DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR ANYTHING THAT HAS TO BE CORRECTED.

THAT'S IN THE GROUND NOW.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. PUBLIC COMMENT IS OPEN AND THE OTHER SPEAKERS.

HEARING NONE PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR DISCUSSION? COMMENTS. MS..

MS. SKINNER THERE HAVE BEEN NO CHANGES SINCE FIRST READING, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.

HEARING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION.

I MOVE, WE PASS ORDINANCE 2023-23 ON SECOND READING, READ BY TITLE ONLY AND PASSED.

SECOND ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-23, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, VACATING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING THAT CERTAIN PORTION OF DEPOT STREET LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MADAM CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU, MISS SKINNER.

[9.A.1. Ordinance 2023-25: Amends Section 2-77 of the City Code regarding competitive bids increasing purchasing thresholds. (I. Lopez, City Attorney)]

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM 9A1, ORDINANCE, WE HAVE A FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2023-25.

MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, YOU'RE ON DECK TO EXPLAIN.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE IS REALLY MY FIRST ATTEMPT AT ENCAPSULATING WHAT YOUR PURCHASING STAFF WAS REQUESTING, WHICH WAS AN AMENDMENT TO OUR EXISTING CAP FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF SOLICITATIONS, WHICH IS SORT OF ODDLY LOW.

RIGHT NOW IT STANDS AT $5,000, WHICH YOU CAN IMAGINE WITH INFLATION OVER THE YEARS, DOES NOT COVER MANY PURCHASES.

SO THEIR QUERY TO ME WAS IF THE COMMISSION WOULD BE WILLING TO REMOVE THE NUMERICAL NUMBER FOUR SOLICITATIONS AND SIMPLY LEAVE IT TO THE PURCHASING MANUAL, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION.

AND AS PART OF THAT ADOPTION A FEW YEARS AGO, YOU DELEGATED TO YOUR CITY MANAGER THE ABILITY TO SHIFT THOSE NUMERICAL THRESHOLDS THAT WOULD SET THE VARIOUS TYPES OF COMPETITIVE BIDDING.

SO THE LOWEST THRESHOLD IS ALWAYS THE THE THREE VERBAL BIDS, VERBAL QUOTES, TELEPHONIC QUOTES, AND THEN IT GOES

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UP IN TERMS OF COMPLEXITY AND FORMAL SOLICITATIONS AS THE THRESHOLDS INCREASE, RIGHT? SO THAT'S YOUR CURRENT MODEL IN YOUR PURCHASING MANUAL.

SO BEFORE YOU IS ESSENTIALLY THE AMENDMENT TO YOUR CODE, WHICH WOULD SIMPLY LEAVE IT AS A FLOATING ABILITY. AND IN ESSENCE I CAN READ THE LANGUAGE, BUT RIGHT NOW WHAT IT SAYS IS COMPETITIVE, COMPETITIVE, FORMAL BIDS SHOULD BE SOLICITED FOR ANY SINGLE ITEM WHICH EXCEEDS THE PURCHASE COST OF $5,000.

WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE COST OF GOODS AND SERVICES HAVE GONE THROUGH REALLY POST COVID.

THE PROPOSED NEW LANGUAGE IN YOUR BOOK AND ONLINE SHOULD SAY INSTEAD OF THAT, THAT BID SOLICITATION PROCEDURES AND PROCUREMENT THRESHOLDS SHALL BE SET IN THE PROCUREMENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES HANDBOOK AS MAY BE AMENDED FROM TIME TO TIME.

NOW, I KNOW I'VE CHATTED INDIVIDUALLY WITH SOME OF YOU AND THERE SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT NOT HAVING ANY NUMERICAL THRESHOLDS.

SO I WENT BACK TO YOUR PURCHASING DIRECTOR AND HE GAVE ME SOME NUMBERS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT AS A POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE TONIGHT.

I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

WE'RE AT FIRST READING, SO WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT WHAT YOUR WILL IS.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOME NUMBERS.

SO THIS WAS HIS SUGGESTION INSTEAD OF WHAT'S IN YOUR BOOK.

HIS SUGGESTION WAS TO SAY, A COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION PROCESS SHALL BE IMPLEMENTED IN ACQUIRING GOODS OR SERVICES FOR PUBLIC USE, WHICH EXCEEDS OR EXCEEDS $50,000.

BID SOLICITATION PROCEDURES AND PROCUREMENT THRESHOLDS SHALL BE SET IN THE PROCUREMENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES HANDBOOK MANUAL.

SO THAT WAS HIS SUGGESTION TO YOU, IS THAT THE THRESHOLD BE $50,000 AND THAT THE SPECIFICS THEN BE IN THE HANDBOOK IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER OR SOME OTHER NUMBER OR OTHER CONCEPT.

I JUST SORT OF NEEDED SOME FEEDBACK BECAUSE I'M DRAFTING COLD WITHOUT GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION ON WHAT YOU'D LIKE.

I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING, EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS $5,000 IS A REALLY, REALLY LOW THRESHOLD.

WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO WITH THAT? I'M HAPPY TO HEAR SUGGESTIONS.

HAVING WORKED IN FACILITIES AND KNOWING $5,000 IS NOTHING.

HAVING WORKED TO GET BIDS, I MEAN, IT BASICALLY TIES OUR HANDS FOR ANY PLUMBING, ANYTHING ELECTRICAL.

SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT REGARD.

$5,000 IS RIDICULOUS AND WE HAD TO DO A LOT OF DANCING TO REPAIR THINGS.

BUT I THINK FROM GOING FROM 5000 TO 50,000 IS KIND OF EXTREME.

I LIKE LIKE 25,000 BECAUSE IT BRINGS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON AND ALWAYS MAYBE DIRECTING IT.

IF IT'S LIKE SOMETHING SEVERE, THEN THE CITY MANAGER CAN MAYBE SIGN OFF ON A WAIVER.

WE USED TO DO THIS HERE REQUISITION TO GET SOMETHING PUSHED THROUGH AND HE COULD TAKE THOSE STEPS.

BUT I THINK GOING FROM 5000 TO $50,000 IS RIDICULOUS IN MY MINDSET.

THANK YOU. I WOULD AGREE THAT THAT'S HIGH.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THINGS ARE PURCHASED FOR 20,000 OR 40,000.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW A VEHICLE COSTS A LOT OF MONEY, SO.

BUT. YOU KNOW, IT'S 25.

SOUNDS REASONABLE TO ME.

ARE WE TALKING? 25? IS THAT 25,000? 25,000 FOR THREE BIDS? WELL, IT IS FIRST READING.

WHAT'S YOUR INCLINATION? I'M GOOD WITH 25,000.

I THINK. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A NUMBER THAT SEEMS REASONABLE.

OKAY. SO IT LOOKS LIKE 25,000.

IT IS ON ON FIRST READING.

WE CAN SEND IT.

WE CAN. IF YOU'LL ADD THAT LANGUAGE.

WHAT? SEND IT TO SECOND READING, IF THAT'S YOUR WILL.

IT'S UP TO YOU.

THE SHORT TITLE IS BROAD ENOUGH THAT CHANGING IT TO 25,000 WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO PUT IT ON SECOND READING, BUT IF YOU WANT TO COGITATE ON IT SOME MORE, JUST LET ME KNOW.

THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF OUR CONVERSATION.

IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU THINK YOU'RE READY WITH 25, I CAN PUT IT ON SECOND READING.

UM, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING IT ON TO PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY.

THAT'S MOTION.

I'LL SECOND IT. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-25.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA AMENDING CHAPTER TWO.

ARTICLE FOUR, DIVISION ONE, SECTION 2-77 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE TO PROVIDE FOR BID SOLICITATION PROCEDURES AND PROCUREMENT

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THRESHOLDS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[9.B.1. Resolution 2023-16: Establishes the estimated rates for fire protection assessments for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2023 and clarifies hearing dates. (M. Breidenstein, Assistant City Manager)]

2023-16 MS. BREIDENSTEIN. GOOD EVENING.

MEREDITH BREIDENSTEIN, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

I'M HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT TO PRESENT RESOLUTION 2023-16.

AGAIN, IT RESTATES THE DATES OF THE PUBLIC.

THE DATE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE RESOLUTION.

THE RATES HERE ARE STILL BEING PROPOSED AT 7.7.06 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT FOR RESIDENTIAL AND 13.91 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT FOR NON RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS RESOLUTION IS THE PUBLIC HEARING IS SET FOR SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2023 AT 5 P.M.

DURING THE REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING.

IF PASSED TONIGHT, MAILERS WILL GO OUT TO EVERY PROPERTY OWNER ALSO LETTING THEM KNOW OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING DATE.

ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS CONCERNING THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HEARD THIS.

WE UNDERSTAND IT IS A RESOLUTION.

ANY DISCUSSION? WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I MOVE TO PASS A RESOLUTION 2023-16.

HAVE READ BY TITLE ONLY.

I'LL SECOND. ALL THOSE ACTUALLY NEED TO READ THE RESOLUTIONS, BUT CARRY ON.

WE CAN HAVE THE VOTE. WE DON'T HAVE A TITLE ON THE RESOLUTION, SO WHY SO? OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

MAYOR SECONDED? CORRECT? YES, THAT WAS THE QUESTION.

SORRY. OKAY.

OKAY. I DIDN'T HEAR HER.

ALL RIGHT. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE? AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED? NONE.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO 9B2, RESOLUTION 2023-23.

[9.B.2. Resolution 2023-23: Requests a reduction of permit application fees from the St. Johns River Water Management District and the Florida Department of Environmental Protection. (S. Slaughter, Director Utilities)]

WE HAD AN ORDINANCE AND A RESOLUTION WITH THAT SAME EXACT NUMBER.

MR. SLAUGHTER, YOU'RE HERE TO EXPLAIN THE RESOLUTION, SIR.

WELCOME BACK. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSION.

PLEASURE TO BE BACK. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS RESOLUTION 2023-23.

IT IS A REQUEST TO REDUCE THE PERMIT APPLICATION FEES FROM SAINT JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.

THE CITY SATISFIES THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS REDUCTION.

WE HAVE A POPULATION OF 25,000 OR LESS AND THE PERCENTAGE OF THE ASSET OF THE ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUE THAT IS EXEMPT FROM THE AD VALOREM TAXATION IS HIGHER THAN THE STATEWIDE AVERAGE.

OH, GOOD. A GOOD COST SAVING MEASURE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

QUESTIONS OF STAFF RESOLUTION.

MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023-23.

SECOND. OKAY.

ANY COMMENTS? DISCUSSION? FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

ON TO STAFF REPORTS AND PRESENTATION ITEM 10A.

[10.A. Petition for Voluntary Annexation and Pre-Annexation Agreement for Parcels of Land including the St. Joseph Academy Catholic High School at 155 State Road 207. (A. Skinner, Director Planning and Building)]

MISS SKINNER, YOU ARE HERE TO EXPLAIN YOUR PETITION.

YES. HELLO AGAIN.

THIS IS A PRESENTATION TO DISCUSS A PETITION TO ANNEX AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT FOR APPROXIMATELY 39.8 ACRES OF PROPERTY, INCLUDING THE CAMPUS OF THE SAINT JOSEPH ACADEMY CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL.

THE CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTY IS A PRIVATE HIGH SCHOOL, INCLUDING ATHLETIC FIELDS AND SCHOOL FACILITIES.

THE PROPERTY IS CONTIGUOUS TO THE CITY LIMITS ON ITS EAST AND SOUTHEAST SIDES.

THE SCHOOL WAS HISTORICALLY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS UNTIL IT MOVED TO THIS PROPERTY.

THE CURRENT SAINT JOHNS COUNTY FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR ALL OF THE PROPERTY IS RESIDENTIAL D AND THE COUNTY ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY THREE R'S TWO EXCUSE ME RS THREE AND OPEN RURAL.

THE APPROVAL PROCESS WOULD REQUIRE REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD REGARDING CHANGING THE COUNTY LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THE CITY TO THE CITY DESIGNATION AND THE COUNTY ZONING DISTRICTS TO CITY ZONING DISTRICTS.

I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AND I BELIEVE THE PRINCIPAL OF THE SCHOOL IS HERE AS WELL, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS. QUESTIONS.

COMMENTS. IS THE PETITION FOR ANNEXATION.

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I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH ASKING THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT WAS POSED BY MISS KALAIDI EARLIER ABOUT WHAT THE WHY THEY'RE APPLYING FOR THE ANNEXATION.

ALL RIGHT. UM.

THAT THE PETITIONER IS IN THE ROOM, THE ATTORNEY FOR THE PETITIONER.

DOES HE WOULD HE BE SO KIND AS TO INDULGE US? ON THE QUESTION, I BELIEVE IN SPEAKING TO HIM EARLIER.

HE INDICATED THAT THE SCHOOL DOES HAVE A HISTORY OF BEING WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARIES AND ALSO THAT THIS WOULD HELP FORMALIZE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL FOR OUR POLICE SERVICES.

WONDERFUL. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, YES, SIR. WOULD YOU LIKE TO STEP TO THE PODIUM? WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.

WELCOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE.

SO I THINK ULTIMATELY OUR GOAL IS TWOFOLD.

NUMBER ONE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING ALL THE STUDENTS AND STAFF ON OUR CAMPUS.

A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND SECONDARILY WITH THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE POLICE.

WHAT ENABLED US TO HAVE A RESOURCE OFFICER ON OUR CAMPUS EVERY SINGLE DAY? WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SAINT JOHNS COUNTY TO TRY TO GET A RESOURCE OFFICER, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE UNABLE TO PROVIDE US ONE.

WE HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR A CITY OFFICER THROUGH SAINT AUGUSTINE, BUT WE'D LIKE TO FORMALIZE THAT WITH A CONTRACT AND WOULD LIKE TO BE ANNEXED IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

THE PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT WOULD HOPEFULLY ENABLE US TO HAVE THAT OFFICER ON OUR CAMPUS WHILE THIS PROCESS IS MOVING FORWARD.

SIR. THANKS. GIVE US YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

YES, OF COURSE. TODD DICLEMENTE.

I'M THE PRINCIPAL AT SAINT JOSEPH ACADEMY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME.

WE'RE SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU HERE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.

AND WHAT IS IS THERE AN ACTION REQUIRED TONIGHT? YES, MADAM MAYOR, THE ACCEPTING THE PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT AND PETITION FOR VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION WOULD ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO AMEND THE LAND USE AND ZONING.

ALL THAT WOULD COME BACK TO YOU AN ORDINANCE TO ANNEX THE PROPERTY, AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE LAND USE, AND AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY.

EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT.

BUT THAT WOULD ALSO ALLOW THEM TO GET THE OFFICER THERE.

YES. WE WILL ALSO WORK ON A CONTRACT TO PROVIDE A SECURITY OFFICER THERE.

GREAT POLICE OFFICER WHILE WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THIS.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO MOVED.

I WOULD MOVE TO ACCEPT THE PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT.

TO ACCEPT THE PRESENT.

YES, IT'S A LONG TITLE.

ALL RIGHT. DO I HEAR A MOTION? A SECOND. I'M SORRY.

A SECOND. YES.

NOT THAT LONG OF A DAY, IS IT? OKAY. THANK YOU.

MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.. AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING.

WE DO APPRECIATE YOU STEPPING UP LIKE THAT ON THE FLY.

UM. OKAY.

SORRY. I LOST MY AGENDA AGAIN.

IT'S IN HERE. CITY ATTORNEY IT'S JUST ME.

[11. ITEMS BY CITY ATTORNEY]

ATTORNEY IT'S YOU. AND YOU HAVE NINE.

AND FOR US. SO LAST WEEK, ON WEDNESDAY, MID AFTERNOON, LATE AFTERNOON, WE RECEIVED THE ORDER FROM THE CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE ON THE SCHAEFER VERSUS CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE MATTER.

YOU'LL RECALL THAT THE CASE STARTED WITH A SITUATION WHERE THE SCHAFFERS, WHO OWNED TWO LOTS ON HILDRETH, BUILT A WALL WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

AND AS PART OF THEIR DESIRE TO CONFORM, THEY CAME BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FOR AN APPLICATION AND AFTER THE FACT PERMIT FOR CONSERVATION OVERLAY ZONE DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE HAD THE HEARING AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FOR THAT PERMIT THE APPLICANTS PRESENTED ENGINEERING EVIDENCE.

EVIDENCE FROM AN ARCHITECT AND FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST IN SUPPORT OF THEIR APPLICATION.

THERE WERE A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORS THAT ALSO SPOKE IN OPPOSITION TO THE APPLICATION.

ULTIMATELY, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD DENIED THE APPLICATION THE AFTER THE FACT CONSERVATION OVERLAY ZONE PERMIT.

THE MATTER WAS THEN APPEALED TO THE CITY COMMISSION PER OUR CODE AND THE CITY COMMISSION SUPPORTED THE DENIAL OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING

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BOARD. THE PROCESS AFTER THAT IS THAT THE MATTER GOES TO CIRCUIT COURT.

IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO FURTHER APPEAL, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID.

SO WE WERE IN CIRCUIT COURT.

THEY FILED THEIR APPELLATE BRIEFS.

THEY'RE CALLED PETITIONS FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI IN THOSE PROCEEDINGS, AND WE RESPONDED.

IN THOSE PROCEEDINGS.

THE JUDGE LOOKS AT A THREE PART TEST, ESSENTIALLY, AND IT'S ONE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE FIRST PART OF THE TEST IS WHETHER WE AFFORDED THE APPLICANT DUE PROCESS.

THE SECOND PART OF THE TEST IS WHETHER WE APPLIED THE CORRECT LAW.

AND THE THIRD PART OF THE TEST IS WHETHER OUR DECISION IS SUPPORTED BY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

SO IT'S A TEST YOU'RE VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH.

WHEN THE JUDGE APPLIED THAT FUNDAMENTALLY HE DIDN'T FIND THERE WERE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE DUE PROCESS.

WE HAD AN EXTENSIVE SET OF HEARINGS.

THERE WERE NO REAL SUBSTANTIVE PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF THE LAW WE APPLIED.

IT WAS THE 17 CRITERIA.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS REALLY A DISPUTE THERE.

THE ISSUE WAS THAT THE CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE FELT WE DID NOT MEET COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD TO DENY THE THE APPLICATION.

SO THAT WAS PART OF THE WEIGHING OF THAT EVIDENCE.

ON THE ONE HAND, THEY WERE EXPERT WITNESSES FOR THE SCHAFFERS.

ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE WAS CITIZEN TESTIMONY ON THE GENERALIZED FLOODING IN THE AREA.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE WERE AS OF WEDNESDAY, LATE AFTERNOON.

I SHARED THAT CASE INDIVIDUALLY WITH YOU.

AND SO MY CHALLENGE NOW IS I HAVE A 30 DAY CLOCK TO FURTHER APPEAL.

IF THE CITY COMMISSION WANTS ME TO TAKE A FURTHER APPEAL TO THE APPELLATE LEVEL.

SO THIS WAS AN ORDER FROM A CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE.

THE NEXT LEVEL UP IS THE DISTRICT COURT OF APPEAL.

AND IF YOU WISH FOR ME TO DO THAT, MY CLOCK STARTED TICKING LAST WEDNESDAY.

IF YOU WISH I COULD.

WE COULD HANDLE THIS ONE OF TWO WAYS.

ONE, I COULD SCHEDULE A SPECIAL SHADE MEETING AND WE COULD GO INTO ALL THE STRATEGY AND THE COSTS OF LITIGATION AS WE DO FOR ANY OTHER SHADE MEETING.

I COULD DO THAT AND TRY AND GET THAT SCHEDULED PROMPTLY BECAUSE AGAIN, MY CLOCK KEEPS TICKING IN ORDER TO FILE A COMPLETE APPELLATE PACKET OR IF THE COMMISSION IS IS COMFORTABLE MAKING A DECISION TONIGHT, YOU CERTAINLY CAN TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO.

I WOULD LET YOU KNOW AND LET MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT WHEN YOU GO FROM CIRCUIT COURT TO THE APPELLATE COURT, THE FUNNEL NARROWS. SO THE APPELLATE JUDGES WOULD NOT BE REVIEWING JUDGE MALTZ'S DECISION ON WHETHER WE HAD COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. THAT'S OVER.

THAT ISSUE IS DONE.

THEY WILL NOT RELOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AND MAKE A DIFFERENT DETERMINATION.

ALL THE APPELLATE COURT WOULD DO IS REVIEW WHETHER THE JUDGE'S ORDER.

ARE COMPLIED WITH, DUE PROCESS AND APPLIED THE CORRECT LAW.

THAT'S IT.

SO IN LIGHT OF THAT, IF YOU'LL TELL ME IF YOU'D RATHER I SCHEDULE A SHADE MEETING PROMPTLY TO GET DIRECTION FROM YOU, OR IF YOU'RE READY TO GIVE ME DIRECTION TONIGHT, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

WE DO HAVE ONE MORE MEETING, UM, AUGUST 28TH, BUT THAT'S CUTTING IT AWFULLY SHORT.

THAT WOULD GIVE ME ABOUT A WEEK TO DRAFT AN ENTIRE APPEAL.

SO I'LL DO WHAT YOU TELL ME, BUT I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE MORE TIME RATHER THAN LESS TIME.

SO WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO, TO SCHEDULE A SHADE MEETING TO GO OVER ALL OF THIS, OR ARE YOU READY TO GIVE ME DIRECTION? LET ME MAKE A SUGGESTION.

LET'S NO MATTER WHAT WE DECIDE TONIGHT ON THE FURTHERING AN APPEAL UP TO THE APPELLATE COURT.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND SET A SHADE MEETING JUST AS AN AGREEMENT, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ITEMS TO DISCUSS ABOUT STRATEGIES ON THIS MOVING FORWARD.

AM I CORRECT IN THAT? WELL, FOR THIS, IT'S REALLY THIS PIECE OF LITIGATION.

BUT YES, WE THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT EVERYONE'S CALENDAR LOOKS LIKE.

AND I THINK WHAT THE MAYOR IS HINTING AT IS THE ORDER DOES NOT GIVE THE SCHAFFERS THE PERMIT.

RIGHT? CORRECT. SO ALL THE JUDGE IN THIS KIND OF APPEAL CAN DO IS SAY ESSENTIALLY CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, YOU DID IT WRONG.

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I WILL REMAND THIS MATTER BACK TO YOU FOR YOU TO DECIDE WHAT DECIDE FROM HERE.

CORRECT. THAT'S ONE ISSUE.

CORRECT. THAT'S NOT THE TIME SENSITIVE ISSUE.

MY TIME SENSITIVE ISSUE IS I NEED TO DECIDE, AM I DRAFTING A BRIEF OR NOT? I'M SUGGESTING THAT THAT PORTION OF THE DISCUSSION BE AT A SHADE MEETING.

OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH.

I THINK I COULD STILL DO THAT WITHOUT FURTHERING AN APPEAL.

NOW, THE OTHER PART OF THE DISCUSSION, WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TIME SENSITIVE MATTER, IS SHOULD WE JUST SHOULD DO WE DESIRE TO MOVE THIS TO AN APPELLATE COURT? I SEE VERY LITTLE TO NO CHANCE OF PREVAILING INTO THE APPELLATE COURT BASED ON WHAT YOU JUST EXPLAINED TO US, WHICH IS THE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE LEFT AFTER YOU TEASE OUT THE SUBSTANTIAL AND COMPETENT EVIDENCE, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THE APPELLATE COURT WILL NOT REVISIT OUR THE QUALITY OF OUR EVIDENCE.

SO THAT'S DONE.

YEAH. SO MY SUGGESTION.

WOULD WE MOVE TO MAKE THE DECISION.

WE WILL NOT APPEAL, BUT YET GET INTO A SHADE MEANING TO TALK ABOUT STRATEGIES.

MEANING WHAT WE WILL DO ON REMAND? YES, ON REMAND.

OKAY. I'M.

HOW'S THAT SOUND? YEAH, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

OKAY. AND I MEAN, IT DOES SPEAK TO THIS WHOLE POSITION WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE.

AND BUT THE POSITION WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW IS, I THINK THE MAIN REASON THAT YOU AND I INDIVIDUALLY, MADAM MAYOR, WERE ADVOCATING FOR BUDGET ASSISTANCE WITH BEING ABLE TO HIRE CONSULTANTS, AN ITEM WHERE WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN THE FUTURE FUNDS TO RETAIN PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING SERVICES WHEN NEEDED.

EXACTLY. SO, OKAY.

OKAY. SO YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION ON THAT.

DO I HAVE CONSENSUS AND CAN THE RECORD REFLECT? I KNOW COMMISSIONER GARRIS, YOU DID NOT LET ME KNOW ONE WAY OR ANOTHER DURING THIS MEETING.

ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH US NOT GOING FORWARD WITH THE APPEAL? I THINK THE APPEAL WOULD BE A WASTE OF TIME AND RESOURCES GOING FORWARD WITH THE APPEAL.

I THINK THAT I GUESS IT'S KIND OF UNFINISHED.

SO PERHAPS THE SHADE MEETING IS GOOD.

BASICALLY, THE GUYS IS NOT GOING TO TAKE DOWN THE WALL REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DECIDE TO DO.

IT'S UP AND WE DON'T LEGALLY HAVE A THING TO PUSH HIM TO DO SO.

SO WE CAN HAVE THE SHADE MEETING TO DISCUSS THINGS LIKE THIS THAT DON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

WELL, THE SHADE MEETING WOULD BE VERY SPECIFIC TO THIS REMAND BACK.

SO WE CAN'T IN SHADE REALLY TALK ABOUT BIG ISSUES, BUT WE COULD ADDRESS THE NEXT STEP OF THIS LITIGATION AND WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO.

SO, YES. OKAY.

SO DO I HAVE CONSENSUS FROM THE FOUR BOARD MEMBERS? IF THE CLERK CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

AND I GUESS THE CLERK WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH YOU ON TIMES AND DATES AVAILABLE FOR A SHADE MEETING.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY? NO. OKAY.

CITY CLERK. NO, YOU HAVE NOTHING.

ITEMS BY CITY MANAGER.

[13. ITEMS BY CITY MANAGER]

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT LATE ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON, THE CITY CLOSED ON OUR LAND EXCHANGE BETWEEN OUR PREVIOUS PROPERTY ON PLANTATION ISLAND DRIVE AND 90 AND 92 SOUTH DIXIE.

SO THE CITY NOW OWNS 90 AND 92 SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY WITH THE INTENT OF DEVELOPING A HOMELESS DROP IN DAY CENTER.

THANK YOU. THAT IS WONDERFUL NEWS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE NEXT STEPS.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

THE LAST ITEM IS MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, AND WE CAN GO AROUND THE TABLE.

[14.A. Approval of letter of support for placing a conceptual paved, multi-use trail on the Florida Greenways and Trails Priority Map. (N. Sikes-Kline, Mayor)]

WE DO HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM, AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT, BUT THEN I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAN THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE YOUR CONSENT TO WRITE A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO AGREE TO AN AMENDMENT TO THE STATE PRIORITY TRAIL MAPS.

I CERTAINLY AM IN SUPPORT.

YES, THAT'S FINE.

IT'S JUST A NOD. YES, ABSOLUTELY.

ALL RIGHT. MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE PREPARE THE LETTER AND WE WILL GET THAT IN ON TIME.

I KNOW THEY HAD A REAL SHORT TIMELINE ON THIS, SO IT'LL BE TO THEM TOMORROW.

OKAY, PERFECT. THANKS.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL START WITH VICE MAYOR.

NOTHING OTHER THAN THE LITTLE CARD I BROUGHT FROM A CONFERENCE THAT I WENT TO THAT I THOUGHT WAS KIND OF GENERAL, BUT ACTUALLY KIND OF GOOD.

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SO THANK YOU.

JUST JUST FOR REFERENCE.

VERY NICE. VERY THOUGHTFUL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COMMISSIONER GARRIS. I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF.

ONE IS I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED, THE COUNTY AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR CITY STAFF, BECAUSE WE HAVE A CROSSWALK ON WEST KING STREET.

OH YEAH, WE SAW THAT.

AND I'M GOING TO I WENT AND PINNED THE PASTOR ELLA DELI AND THANKED HER STAFF FOR COMING DOWN AND BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BE PROACTIVE IN WHAT WE DO IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I WOULD HAVE REALLY HATE TO HAVE SEEN SOMEBODY GET RUN DOWN FROM GOING TO CHURCH OR LEAVING CHURCH.

AND I'M TELLING YOU, THOSE THOSE CARS WERE FLYING THROUGH THERE.

SO THEY DID A GREAT JOB.

UM, RUBEN MADE NUMEROUS CALLS AND EMAILS AND THEY DID NOT GO ANYWHERE.

JOHN WHEN HE WAS HERE, HE MADE CALLS AND THEY DID NOT GO ANYWHERE.

BUT YOUR GIRL HERE WAS VERY NOISY WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND WE MADE THINGS HAPPEN.

SO I WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY THANK COMMISSIONER SARAH ARNOLD FOR HEARING ME, THANK HOWARD DEAN FOR HEARING ME.

AND I DID TAKE A MEETING WITH CHRISTIAN FIRST.

BUT IT JUST KIND OF IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE.

SO THE SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE.

AND I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

I'M THANKFUL FOR DAVIS EFFORTS AND ACQUIRING THAT LAND OVER THERE, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO PUT A CHANGE THAT WE CAN START LOOKING TO ADDRESS THE HOMELESS POPULATION.

IT'S ONE THING TO IDENTIFY THE HOMELESS, IT'S ANOTHER THING TO ASSIST THEM AND HELP THEM.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO US MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.

I'M ALSO GRATEFUL TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND THE MAYOR AND VICE FOR STANDING BEHIND ME FOR IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF THE WEST SIDE SO THAT THE WEST SIDE HAS REVENUE TO FIX UP THEIR HOUSES AND BE ABLE TO LIVE MORE COMFORTABLY KNOWING THAT DEVELOPMENT IS COMING, KNOWING THAT THEY WILL HAVE A RESOURCE TO HELP THEM IN THEIR HOMES.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY LOOK FORWARD TO TAKING CARE OF EACH AND EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I APPRECIATE PEOPLE LIKE MISS HATTIE HARMS THAT HAS SENDS US EMAILS AND KEEPS US ON A TIGHT SHIP.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE OTHER PEOPLES THAT READ OUT REACH OUT TO US, WHETHER IT'S EMAIL OR TEXT MESSAGES.

I HAVE REALLY ENJOYED THIS ALMOST APPROACHING YEAR OF BEING ON THE COMMISSION BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE'S CONCERNS AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, IS CARING ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING AND HEARING AND IDENTIFYING, AS YOU GUYS WELL KNOW.

SO THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I'M GOING TO START WITH YOUR REMINDER ABOUT GETTING EVERYTHING ONTO THE BUDGET THAT WE WANT.

AND I WAS REVIEWING THE MINUTES FROM ONE OF OUR JULY MEETINGS, AND I HAD ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR COMPOSTING AND FOR ADDITIONAL TREE PLANTING.

SO ADDITIONAL COMPOSTING BINS AND TREE PLANTING.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AT OUR AUGUST 24TH MEETING.

OKAY. AND THEN I YOU KNOW, IN THE SPIRIT OF BEING GRATEFUL, I HAVE HAD A VERY FULL SUMMER AND I WANTED TO JUST EXPRESS HOW TRANSFORMATIVE PARTICIPATING IN THE BUILDING BELOVED COMMUNITY'S TRAINING, THE VISIONS AND PACE TRAINING, TRAINING THAT COMMISSIONER HORVATH AND I BOTH PARTICIPATED IN.

IT'S IT'S HELPING ME BE A BETTER LEADER AND A AND A BETTER UNDERSTAND ALL THE MEMBERS OF MY COMMUNITY AND HOW I CAN DO BETTER.

AND THEN ON THE HEELS OF THAT, I WAS ABSENT AT OUR LAST REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IN JULY BECAUSE I WAS IN RWANDA GOING TO THE AFRICAN CONTINENT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE TO GO TO THE INTERNATIONAL CONGRESS FOR CONSERVATION BIOLOGY.

AND IT WAS THE PERSPECTIVE THAT I GAINED FROM BEING IN A COUNTRY THAT WAS SO VERY DIFFERENT.

THE PEOPLE ARE SO DIVERSE.

I MET PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD AND MADE FRIENDS FROM WITH PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, LITERALLY.

BUT WHAT THAT AND WHAT THAT HELPS ME BETTER UNDERSTAND TOO, IS HOW SPECIAL WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS.

AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR THAT AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CHALLENGES, BUT WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE ARE UP TO THOSE CHALLENGES AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU ALL TO MEET THOSE CHALLENGES AND CAPITALIZE ON OUR OPPORTUNITIES LIKE LAND ACQUISITION FOR CONSERVATION AND ALL THE OTHER WONDERFUL THINGS WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS EVENING.

IT'S A GREAT TIME. WONDERFUL.

WELL, WITH THAT, ON THAT POSITIVE NOTE, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.