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ALL RIGHT. WE ARE CALLED TO ORDER.

[1. Call to Order]

MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

NANCY SIKES-KLINE HERE.

ROXANNE HORVATH HERE.

BARBARA BLONDER HERE.

CYNTHIA GARRIS HERE.

JIM SPRINGFIELD. HERE.

ALL RIGHT. UM.

IS PASTOR ELLIOT ALICIA HERE? HE IS NOT HERE YET.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, I SEE SOMEONE.

THERE HE IS. THERE HE IS, PASTOR.

YOU ARE IN THE NICK OF TIME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, WILL YOU, PLEASE? YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAND AT THE PODIUM AND WE WILL HAVE OUR INVOCATION.

AND WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOLLOWING LED BY VICE MAYOR ROXANNE HORVATH.

EVERYONE, PLEASE STAND.

LET'S PRAY. OUR FATHER, WHO IS IN HEAVEN SACRED IS YOUR NAME.

YOUR KINGDOM COME, YOUR WILL BE DONE ON EARTH, EVEN AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.

FATHER, WE ASK THAT TODAY YOU WOULD GUIDE THE AFFAIRS OF THIS CITY, THAT YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR GUIDANCE WOULD ALLOW OUR CITY LEADERS TO DEAL WITH COMPETENCE, WITH CONFIDENCE, AND WITH COMPASSION.

THAT THEY WOULD SEEK TO DO ALL THAT IS RIGHT AND HONORABLE BEFORE YOU AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY.

WE ASK THAT OUR YOUNG ONES WOULD CONTINUE TO BE BLESSED BY THE ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AFFORDED BY THIS GREAT CITY, THAT THE SACRED TRADITIONS AND THE HISTORIC LEGACY OF THE CITY WOULD BE CONTINUED TO BE HONORED AND KEPT.

THAT WE WOULD HEED THE WORDS OF SOLOMON, MAY THE LORD OUR GOD BE WITH US AS HE WAS WITH OUR FATHERS.

MAY HE NOT LEAVE US, NOR FORSAKE US, THAT HE MAY INCLINE OUR HEART, THAT WE MAY INCLINE OUR HEARTS TO HIMSELF, TO WALK IN ALL OF HIS WAYS AND TO KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS AND HIS STATUTES AND HIS JUDGMENTS, WHICH HE COMMANDED TO OUR FATHERS.

WE ASK ALL OF THIS IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME.

AMEN. AMEN. AMEN.

AMEN. PLEASE JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

PLEASE BE SEATED.

ALL RIGHT. SO FIRST ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE MODIFICATION AND APPROVAL OF OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

[2. ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS]

MR. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE ANY MODIFICATIONS? MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD EVENING. STAFF HAS ONE MODIFICATION.

WE WOULD LIKE TO TABLE ITEM TEN A THE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE 2022 FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT PLAN AND RESCHEDULE THAT FOR THE MAY 22ND MEETING.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER PROPOSALS FOR MODIFICATION OF THE AGENDA? I DO HAVE ONE MYSELF.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEM THREE A, WHICH IS A PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH TO BE.

THREE F.

AND SO THAT IT WOULD COME AT THE END TO GIVE OUR GUESTS THAT WERE AT THE PRIOR CELEBRATION COMMEMORATION A CHANCE TO COME BACK IN THE ROOM AND PARTICIPATE IF THEY'D LIKE TO.

SO DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED WITH MODIFICATIONS.

OKAY. SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED.

THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES.

[3.B. Proclamation 2023-16: Proclaims May 2023 as Older Americans Month. (N. SikesKline, Mayor)]

ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S MOVE RIGHT ALONG.

UM, SO OUR FIRST PROCLAMATION WILL BE, UM, OLDER AMERICANS MONTH, AND THAT WILL BE PRESENTED BY COMMISSIONER BLONDER.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO ON UP.

TESTING. OKAY, GREAT.

WELCOME. WHEREAS THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE INCLUDES A GROWING NUMBER OF OLDER AMERICANS WHO ENRICH OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH THEIR DIVERSE LIFE EXPERIENCES.

AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND THE COUNCIL ON AGING ARE COMMITTED TO STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITY BY CONNECTING WITH AND SUPPORTING OLDER ADULTS, THEIR FAMILIES AND CAREGIVERS, AND ACKNOWLEDGING THEIR MANY VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS TO SOCIETY.

AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND THE COUNCIL ON AGING RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF BRINGING TOGETHER ALL GENERATIONS AND ENGAGING IN ACTIVITIES THAT PROMOTE

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PHYSICAL, MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL.

AND WHEREAS, OUR COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL ON AGING CAN PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO ENRICH THE LIVES OF INDIVIDUALS OF ALL AGES BY PROMOTING AND ENGAGING IN ACTIVITY, WELLNESS AND SOCIAL INVOLVEMENT, EMPHASIZING HOME AND COMMUNITY BASED SERVICES THAT SUPPORT INDEPENDENT LIVING AND ENSURING COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN BENEFIT FROM THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND EXPERIENCE OF OLDER ADULTS.

NOW, THEREFORE, WE, THE SAINT AUGUSTINE CITY COMMISSION, HEREBY PROCLAIMS MAY 2023 AS OLDER AMERICANS MONTH AND URGES EVERY RESIDENT TO TAKE TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE OLDER AMERICANS I'M SORRY, OLDER ADULTS AND THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE THEM AS POWERFUL AND VITAL INDIVIDUALS WHO GREATLY CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THIS IS SIGNED BY OUR MAYOR, NANCY SIKES-KLINE.

THANK YOU [APPLAUSE]. WELL, WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU AND FOR ACKNOWLEDGING OUR OLDER AMERICANS, THE OLDER MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND FOR PARTICIPATING WITH US IN SUPPORTING THOSE OLDER MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, NOT REALLY.

JUST TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I'LL SAY THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER.

WE HAD OUR CENTENARIAN LUNCHEON WHERE WE HAD AT THAT OCCASION LAST WEEK, I THINK IT WAS 23 PEOPLE BETWEEN THE AGES OF 100 AND 108.

WE HAD BETWEEN THE AGES OF 95 AND 100.

I THINK IT WAS 37 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT.

YEAH. YEAH. SO WE HAVE SOME VERY HEALTHY SENIORS AND THEY NEED ALL THE HELP THEY CAN GET.

AND THAT'S A NO SMALL PART TO THE WORK OF YOUR RAWLS ORGANIZATION.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO AT THE COUNCIL ON AGING.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GET A PICTURE.

OKAY, SO OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION IS NATIONAL JEWISH HERITAGE.

[3.C. Proclamation 2023-21: Proclaims May 2023 as St. Augustine Jewish Heritage Month. (N. Sikes-Kline, Mayor)]

MONTH. HERITAGE AND HISTORY MONTH.

AND IT WILL BE THIS PROCLAMATION WILL BE PRESENTED BY COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD.

THANK YOU. RABBI SHAPIRO, WOULD YOU COME UP, PLEASE? YOUR ENTOURAGE.

OKAY. COME ON UP.

HEY, HEY, HEY. OKAY, A PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS HERITAGE AND HISTORY ARE EVER PRESENT IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, AND THE PAST IS PART OF THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE JEWISH COMMUNITY PROUDLY LABORS IN THE VINEYARD TO KEEP THAT HERITAGE AND HISTORY ALIVE.

AND WHEREAS, ON APRIL 20TH, 2006, PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH SIGNED THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENT DECLARING MONTH OF MAY TO BE JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH. AND WHEREAS, THE SAINT AUGUSTINE JEWISH HISTORICAL SOCIETY HAS ESTABLISHED AS A FACT THAT THE FIRST JEWS IN WHAT WOULD BECOME THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CAME ACROSS IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, AND TOOK PART IN THE FOUNDING OF OUR COUNTRY'S FIRST EUROPEAN CITY AND THE VERY BEGINNINGS OF THE AMERICAN JEWISH HERITAGE.

AND WHEREAS, THE OLDEST SYNAGOGUE IN CONTINUOUS USE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS FOUND IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

AND WHEREAS, THE JEWISH COMMUNITY OF THE CITY PLAYED A VITAL ROLE IN THE QUEST FOR CIVIL RIGHTS, LED BY REVEREND MARTIN LUTHER KING AND SAINT AUGUSTINE DURING THE SUMMER OF 1964, INCLUDING THE LARGEST MASS ARREST OF RABBIS IN US HISTORY.

AND WHEREAS, JEWISH AMERICAN VALUES ARE WOVEN INTO THE FABRIC OF AMERICAN LIFE AND HAVE SHAPED THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE AS A COUNTRY AND IN OUR COMMUNITY.

NOW, THEREFORE, WE, THE SAINT AUGUSTINE CITY COMMISSION, HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 2023 AS SAINT AUGUSTINE JEWISH HERITAGE MONTH, IN RECOGNITION OF THE RECOGNITION OF THE

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FACT THAT THE PAST REMINDS US OF TIMELESS HUMAN TRUTHS AND ALLOWS FOR THE PERPETUATION OF NOURISHING CULTURAL TRADITIONS HERE IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

SIGNED BY NANCY SIKES-KLINE MAYOR [APPLAUSE].

WE ARE ALL GRATEFUL FOR THIS RECOGNITION AND PROCLAMATION, BUT EVEN MORE GRATEFUL FOR THE FACT THAT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND THEIR ENTIRE STAFF ARE SO DEDICATED AND DEVOTED TO PRESERVING OUR HISTORY, NOT JUST OUR JEWISH HISTORY, BUT ALL OF OUR HISTORY AND SO MANY OTHER PLACES.

GOVERNMENTS ARE PAVING PARADISE AND PUTTING UP A PARKING LOT, HERE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE WE KNOW THAT OUR PAST IS IN GOOD HANDS, AND WE'RE GRATEFUL TO ALL OF YOU.

THANK YOU [APPLAUSE]. THANK YOU.

[3.D. Proclamation 2023-24: Proclaims May 2023 as National Drug Court Month in the City of St. Augustine. (N. Sikes-Kline, Mayor)]

OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION IS.

TA RA RA RA.

COUNT DOWN. ONE, TWO, THREE.

HERE WE GO. I AM THE NEXT ONE PRESENTING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE JUDGE ALEX CHRISTINI AND HIS CREW. ANYONE ELSE? MR. RALPH CUMBERBATCH.

THERE HE IS.

ALL RIGHT. PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU JOIN US.

YES. OH, HERE.

I'M GOING TO JUST TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND YOU CAN INTRODUCE EVERYONE.

HOW'S THAT? LET ME READ.

YES. ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL. WE'VE GOT.

OH, GOOD. YAY! MR. CUMBERBATCH WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED TAKING PICTURES, YOU'RE DEFINITELY WELCOME TO COME FORWARD.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

YES, HE DOES.

WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT HIM.

ALL RIGHT. SO HERE IS THE PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS 2023 MARKS THE 34TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE MIAMI DADE DRUG COURT, THE FIRST DRUG COURT IN THE NATION.

THAT COURT SPARKED A NATIONAL REVOLUTION THAT CHANGED THE FACE OF THE AMERICAN JUSTICE SYSTEM.

AND WHEREAS, FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS, DRUG COURTS HAVE SERVED 1.5 MILLION INDIVIDUALS, RESTORED LIVES, REUNITED FAMILIES, AND MADE COMMUNITIES ACROSS THIS NATION SAFER.

AND WHEREAS, DRUG COURTS ARE NOW RECOGNIZED AS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL CRIMINAL JUSTICE INTERVENTION IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY.

WHEREAS TREATMENT COURTS SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVES SUBSTANCE USE, TREATMENT OUTCOMES, SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE SUBSTANCE USE AND CRIME, AND DO SO AT A LESS EXPENSE THAN ANY OTHER CRIMINAL JUSTICE STRATEGY.

WHEREAS 75% OF TREATMENT COURT GRADUATES WILL NEVER SEE ANOTHER PAIR OF HANDCUFFS AND SAVES ON AN AVERAGE OF $6,000 FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL SERVED.

WHEREAS DRUG COURTS DEMONSTRATE THAT WHEN ONE PERSON RISES OUT OF DRUGS AND CRIME, WE ALL RISE.

AND THE TIME HAS COME TO PUT A DRUG COURT WITHIN THE REACH OF EVERY ELIGIBLE PERSON IN NEED.

WHEREAS SAINT JOHNS COUNTY DRUG COURT HAS COMPASSIONATELY SERVED ITS COMMUNITY FOR 20 YEARS AND LOOKS TO CONTINUE PROVIDING OPTIMUM CARE TO EVERY PARTICIPANT ENTERING THIS PROGRAM.

NOW, THEREFORE, WE, THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 2023 AS NATIONAL DRUG COURT MONTH IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, RECOGNIZING THE SUCCESSFUL WORK OF THE PRACTITIONERS AND PARTICIPANTS OF THE DRUG COURT PROGRAM

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AND URGES ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN IN RECOGNIZING THE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS OF DRUG COURTS AND TO CONGRATULATE DRUG COURT GRADUATES THIS YEAR [APPLAUSE].

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

SHE IS SO SUPPORTIVE AND THE CITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE OF DRUG COURT.

AND WE'RE HAVING OUR 20TH ANNIVERSARY OF DRUG COURT THIS YEAR IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE CELEBRATION ON MAY THE 19TH UP AT THE COURTHOUSE COMPLEX IN THE ANNEX, ABOUT 3:00 ON 19TH OF MAY.

PLEASE COME AND JOIN US.

I NEVER DO THIS.

RALPH? MR. CUMBERBATCH, WHERE'D YOU GO? COME ON UP HERE. COME ON UP HERE.

THIS GENTLEMAN HAS BEEN WITH OUR DRUG COURT SINCE THE BEGINNING.

HE'S MY COORDINATOR.

I COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT HIM.

HE KEEPS IT RUNNING LIKE A WELL-OILED MACHINE.

THAT'S MR. RALPH CUMBERBATCH [APPLAUSE].

AND USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS, I COME UP HERE AND I TALK ALL ABOUT DRUG COURT.

I NEVER GET THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I'M GOING TO ASK MY PEOPLE IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.

KIND OF TELL REAL QUICK WHAT PART OF THE PROGRAM YOU'RE IN FIRST, MEAGAN WALL FROM LEGAL AID, MEAGAN WALL FROM LEGAL AID.

YOU SAID REAL QUICK, BUT WE DO ALL KINDS OF CIVIL LEGAL ISSUES AND THOSE ARE OTHERWISE HOLDING PEOPLE DOWN.

SO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND THE CIVIL LEGAL WORLD GET TOGETHER AND IT INCREASES SUCCESS RATES.

THAT'S RIGHT, ROCKY.

MY NAME IS ROCKY.

I'VE BEEN IN DRUG COURT NOW ABOUT 14 MONTHS AND DRUG COURT HAS SAVED MY LIFE.

I JUST I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH FOR JUDGE CHRISTINI, RALPH CUMBERBATCH AND THAT EPIC TEAM PROBATION.

I HAVE A NEW LIFE NOW.

AND I. YOU KNOW, I JUST.

I'M JUST STOKED AND I'M JUST TICKLED TO DEATH.

I SEE. I SEE THINGS NOW THROUGH SOBER EYES, AND I JUST.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

I'M JUST GLAD. GLAD TO BE HERE [APPLAUSE].

HI, I'M DONNA MITCHELL AND I'M A PARTICIPANT OF DRUG COURT AND IT HAS CHANGED ME INSIDE.

AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE TO START A NEW LIFE [APPLAUSE].

HELLO, I'M INDIA WILLIAMS. I'M A DRUG COURT COUNSELOR WITH EPIC [APPLAUSE].

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. MY NAME IS BRIAN O'NEILL.

I'M THE PROBATION OFFICER FOR DRUG COURT [APPLAUSE].

AS JUDGE CHRISTINI SAID, MY NAME IS RALPH, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY [APPLAUSE].

THANK YOU, RALPH. SO RATHER THAN GIVE YOU THE WHOLE DRUG COURT SPIEL, I REALLY WANTED TO REALLY WANTED THEM TO SEE THE PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATING.

WE'VE GOT THESE PROFESSIONALS, MOST IMPORTANTLY, TREATMENT PROFESSIONALS.

SO WHAT WE DO IS WE'RE TAKING THESE FELONS OFF THE FELONY DOCKETS.

THESE ARE HIGH RISK, HIGH NEED FOLKS, MOST OF WHOM ARE HEADED FOR PRISON.

AND WE PUT THEM COMING TO COURT WEEKLY WITH OUR TEAM HERE OF TREATMENT PROFESSIONALS.

AND THERE'S PROSECUTORS AND PUBLIC DEFENDERS, AND THEY GET A LOT OF COUNSELING AND TREATMENT.

AND WHEN THEY GO SIDEWAYS, IF THEY IF THEY MESS UP, THE RESULT IS QUICK.

IT'S USUALLY AN ADJUSTMENT, GIVING THEM MORE TREATMENT, MORE COUNSELING, MORE.

SOMETIMES MIGHT HAVE TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE JAIL TIME TO MAKE THEM REMEMBER WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

BUT NORMALLY SEE NOT BEING ABLE TO STOP THE THE ABUSE OF SUBSTANCES, THEY WOULD THEY WOULD VIOLATE PROBATION OVER AND OVER AND GET SENT TO PRISON.

THEY GET SENT TO PRISON.

THERE'S NO GOOD TREATMENT PROGRAM THERE.

AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY COME OUT OF PRISON.

THEY'VE GOT AN ALMOST AN 80% RECIDIVISM RATE.

WE GET THESE FOLKS GRADUATED.

THEY GOT ABOUT LESS THAN AN 18% RECIDIVISM RATE.

AND WE DO IT ALL FOR LESS THAN HALF THE COST.

AND YOU HEARD SOME OF THOSE STATISTICS.

AND AS ROCKY SAID THIS, THIS ISN'T JUST SAVING TAXPAYER MONEY, WHICH IT DOES, BUT WE'RE SAVING LIVES, NOT JUST THE LIVES OF THE PARTICIPANT. WHAT WE GOT A COUPLE DOZEN BABIES BORN HEALTHY, AND THESE ARE ALL MOTHERS AND FATHERS AND BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

AND I SEE ONE OF OUR PUBLIC DEFENDERS WHO FOR MANY YEARS, KELLY TRAYNOR IS HERE.

STAND UP, KELLY, SO THEY CAN SEE YOU [APPLAUSE].

AND SHE DOES SUCH GREAT WORK.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU ALL.

WHENEVER YOU GET A CHANCE, COME AND SEE A DRUG COURT GRADUATION SOMETIME AND YOU'LL YOU'LL REALLY BE MOVED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT, MADAM MAYOR.

SHE'S SHE'S BEEN AT MORE GRADUATIONS THAN PROBABLY KELLY HAS.

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SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT [APPALUSE].

THANK YOU, MADAM. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOUR PASSION IS SO EVIDENT.

OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION WILL BE NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK AND THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE PRESENTED BY COMMISSIONER CYNTHIA GARRIS.

[3.E. Proclamation 2023-23: Proclaims May 21-27, 2023 as National Public Works Week in the City of St. Augustine. (N. Sikes-Kline, Mayor)]

WHEREAS PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAT ARE VITAL IMPORTANCE OF SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELL-BEING OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

AND WHEREAS, THESE INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND SERVICES COULD NOT BE PROVIDED WITHOUT THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE ENGINEERS, MANAGERS AND EMPLOYEES AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT AND PRIVATE SECTOR WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REBUILDING, IMPROVING AND PROTECTING OUR NATION'S TRANSPORTATION, WATER SUPPLY, WATER TREATMENT AND SOLID WASTE SYSTEMS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND OTHER STRUCTURES AND FACILITIES ESSENTIAL FOR OUR CITIZENS.

AND WHEREAS, IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST FOR THE CITIZENS, CIVIC LEADERS AND CHILDREN IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE OF AND TO MAINTAIN A PROGRESSIVE INTEREST AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAMS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE COMMUNITIES.

AND WHEREAS, THE YEAR 2023 MARKS THE 63RD ANNUAL NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK SPONSORED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION. NOW, THEREFORE, THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 21ST THROUGH THE 27TH OF 2023 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK AND THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND CALLS UPON ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND ACTIVITIES, EVENTS AND CEREMONIES DESIGNED TO PAY TRIBUTE TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS, ENGINEERS, MANAGERS, AND EMPLOYEES, AND TO RECOGNIZE THE SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS THEY MAKE TO PROTECTING OUR NATION'S HEALTH, SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND WITNESS THEREOF I HEREBY SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE TO BE AFFIXED THIS 8TH DAY OF MAY IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 2023, AND THE 457TH YEAR OF THE FOUNDING OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, THE NATION'S OLDEST CITY, SIGNED BY OUR MAYOR, NANCY SIKES-KLINE [APPLAUSE]. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GARRIS.

WITH ME TODAY, I'VE GOT STEVEN SLAUGHTER, WHO IS THE ENGINEERING MANAGER FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

AND SO I ACCEPT THIS ON BEHALF OF REUBEN FRANKLIN, THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

AND JUST AS COMMISSIONER GARRIS HAD SAID, THESE ARE THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT YOU SEE OUT OUTSIDE EVERY DAY, THE PUBLIC.

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AND SO THEY'RE THERE SETTING UP THE DECORATIONS FOR NIGHTS OF LIGHTS, LITTER, PICKUP, STREET SWEEPING, SOLID WASTE, MAKING SURE YOUR WATER AND SEWER ARE OPERATING.

SO ALL I WOULD ASK IS THAT IS WHEN YOU SEE SOMEBODY OUT THERE IN ONE OF THOSE REFLECTIVE VESTS THAT YOU ROLL DOWN THE WINDOW OR STOP AND SAY, THANK YOU.

SO I APPRECIATE IT [APPLAUSE].

RIGHT. GET A PICTURE.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE ONE LAST PROCLAMATION TO DO.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND WE SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST.

NO, NO, NO. NOT PICKING FAVORITES.

NOT PICKING FAVORITES.

[3.A. Proclamation 2023-09: Proclaiming May 2023 as National Historic Preservation Month. (N. Sikes-Kline, Mayor)]

SO THIS IS NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH AND IT WILL BE PRESENTED BY VICE MAYOR ROXANNE HORVATH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE HAVE THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF TO RECEIVE THIS.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY? YES, PLEASE. PLEASE COME UP.

OH, MY GOODNESS.

SUCH FRIENDLY FACES HERE.

OH, HOW WONDERFUL.

LOOK AT ALL THIS CROWD. HELLO.

HELLO. HELLO. HELLO, HELLO.

OKAY, ONE MORE.

TWO MORE. THREE MORE.

FOUR MORE.

OH, MY GOD. FIVE MORE.

[INAUDIBLE] WELL, I THINK THIS IS THE MAXIMUM WE'VE EVER HAD, SO.

ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY READY? WE'RE GOING TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT OF 1966 IS ACKNOWLEDGING THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING OUR NATION'S HERITAGE, ESTABLISHED A PROGRAM OF IDENTIFICATION, EVALUATION AND PROTECTION OF HISTORIC AND PREHISTORIC PROJECTS, AND CONTAINS THE LEGAL BASIS FOR THE FEDERAL, STATE LOCAL PRESERVATION PARTNERSHIP, COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM.

AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE WAS DESIGNATED AS A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN 1986 AS A COMMITMENT TO PRESERVE, PROTECT AND INCREASE AWARENESS OF OUR UNIQUE CULTURAL HERITAGE.

AND WHEREAS, 40 YEARS AGO, THE CITY COMMISSION REORGANIZED THE HISTORIC ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AND IDENTIFIED THE BOARD'S DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO FURTHER PROTECT THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY OF THE CITY AND OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

AND WHEREAS, PRESERVATION OF OUR HISTORIC RESOURCES IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND VITAL TO THE LEGACY OF CULTURAL, EDUCATIONAL, ESTHETIC, INSPIRATIONAL AND ECONOMIC BENEFITS AND SHOULD BE MAINTAINED AND ENRICHED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

AND WHEREAS, 100 YEARS AGO, THE SAINT AUGUSTINE HISTORICAL SOCIETY OPENED AN INDEPENDENT RESEARCH LIBRARY THAT CONTINUES TO BE A VALUED RESOURCE ON THE HISTORY, CULTURE AND ARCHITECTURE OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND COLONIAL FLORIDA.

50 YEARS AGO, THE SAINT AUGUSTINE CITY HALL MOVED TO THE FORMER HOTEL ALCAZAR, AND THE CITY CONTINUES TO PRESERVE THIS TREMENDOUS ARCHITECTURAL GEM.

AND 20 YEARS AGO, THE BRIDGE OF LIONS WAS SAVED FROM DEMOLITION AFTER LOCAL ADVOCACY EFFORTS.

AND WHEREAS, THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF MAY, THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE WILL CONTINUE TO CELEBRATE THE CITY'S DIVERSE CULTURAL HERITAGE WITH LOCAL HISTORY, ARCHITECTURE AND ARCHEOLOGICAL ARCHEOLOGY FOUND IN OUR IRREPLACEABLE PLACES THAT HOLD THE STORIES OF ALL AMERICANS BY RECOGNIZING AND HONORING IMPORTANT POINTS IN OUR CITY'S VAST HISTORY AND THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY TO HELP PRESERVE THESE PLACES THAT SHAPE OUR CITY.

NOW, THEREFORE, THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 2023 AS NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH AND CALLS UPON ALL RESIDENTS TO JOIN THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS IN RECOGNIZING AND PARTICIPATING IN THIS SPECIAL OBSERVATION.

AND IT'S SIGNED BY NANCY SIKES-KLINE, OUR MAYOR [APPLAUSE].

I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING FOR THESE PROCLAMATIONS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK ALL OF YOU.

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MY NAME IS JULIE COURTNEY.

I AM THE CITY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER.

AND AS WE CELEBRATE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH, WE CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT TO BE THANKFUL FOR AND PEOPLE TO RECOGNIZE, WHICH WE CANNOT DO TONIGHT, UNFORTUNATELY, FULLY BUT QUICKLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COMMISSIONERS, THE CITY MANAGEMENT STAFF, OUR DIRECTORS FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT OF OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM AND OUR CITY'S RECENT TEAMWORK TO ADVOCATE FOR AMENDMENTS OF TWO PROPOSED BILLS THAT COULD HAVE SERIOUSLY IMPACTED OUR HISTORIC FABRIC PROVED TO BE SUCCESSFUL FOR THE SAINT AUGUSTINE CITY.

BECAUSE OF ALL OF OUR EFFORTS AND OUR TEAMWORK, STARTING WITH OUR MAYOR, OUR CITY MANAGER, JOHN REGAN, CITY ATTORNEY, ISABELLE LOPEZ AND STAFF OUR PLANNING AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION DIVISION STAFF, ALONG WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANTS AND HELP FROM OUR HOUSE REPRESENTATIVES CINDY STEVENS, THE FLORIDA TRUST, THE NATIONAL TRUST, AND THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.

AND WE'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS THE LAST FEW MONTHS ABOUT HOW OUR CITY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION EFFORTS WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE HARD WORK WE ARE DOING AS A CITY FOR RESILIENCY.

OUR CITY TRULY RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR RESILIENT HERITAGE AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF OUR LOCAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION EFFORTS CANNOT BE DENIED.

WITH THE ESTIMATED $2.9 BILLION VALUE OF HERITAGE TOURISM AND THE MILLIONS OF HISTORIC TOURISTS OR THE TOURISTS WHO ARE SEEKING HISTORIC OPPORTUNITIES AND EXPERIENCES THAT COME EACH YEAR.

AND OUR CITY HAS RECOGNIZED THE VALUE OF OUR UNIQUE AND LONG HISTORY AS THE NATION'S OLDEST CITY AND OUR SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL, ARCHITECTURAL AND ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES WITHIN ALL OF THE ARCHEOLOGY ZONES.

OUR NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK TOWN PLAN AND BUILDINGS, OUR SEVEN NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICTS, FIVE LOCAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ZONING DISTRICTS, AND OUR LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARKS.

FURTHERMORE, THE CITY HAS BEEN WALKING THE WALK AS A STEWARD OF THIS MAGNIFICENT HOTEL ALCAZAR BUILDING FOR 50 YEARS.

AND WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU TO ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE AND THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU REPRESENT WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING, DOING THE HARD WORK OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR . I'LL JUST LET EVERYONE INTRODUCE THEMSELVES VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE I CAN'T RECOGNIZE YOU ALL BY NAME.

SO IF YOU WANT TO SAY WHO YOU ARE AND WHO YOU REPRESENT.

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OKAY. VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS OR FOR AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING]

SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.

OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PERIODS.

THESE ARE FOR ITEMS THAT ARE AGENDA ITEMS, NOT REQUIRING A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND UP FIRST, I HAVE MR. JOHN MILLER, FOLLOWED BY CHRIS FULMER.

MR. MILLER, IF YOU WOULD, STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IF YOU'RE SO INCLINED.

YES. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS JOHN MILLER, STILL, 1 HAWKSBILL LANE, STILL.

UM, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.

DOES THIS GUY EVER QUIT? NO, I AM PERSISTENT.

KELLY BARRERA, BOARD MEMBER, ONCE SAID, YOU'RE PERSISTENT, AND APPARENTLY YOU'RE A KID ADVOCATE.

AND SO I WEAR THAT PROUDLY.

UM, AGAIN, I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN GET A RESOLUTION PROCLAMATION FROM THE COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH A MUNICIPAL YOUTH COUNCIL ADVISORY COUNCIL.

AND I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AND SOMEDAY IF ANY ONE OF YOU WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH ME AND HAVE COFFEE, I'LL BUY THE COFFEE, MAYBE.

UM, BUT WE'RE GLAD TO, TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.

THERE ARE 70 SOME SUCH ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS STATE.

BUT TODAY I WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND HERE.

I WANT TO SAY THAT TOO OFTEN WE CONFUSE ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT WITH INTELLIGENCE.

AND I'M FOR ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT.

I WISH I HAD DONE SOME.

BUT AT ANY RATE, I MY POINT IS THAT I THINK EXPERIENCE COUNTS, TO USE AN AGE OLD PHRASE.

AND THAT'S HOW KIDS LEARN.

WHAT I WANT TO DO IS READ YOU A LETTER THAT I GOT EIGHT MONTHS AGO AND I TELL YOU THIS IS SHAMELESS, BUT NEVERTHELESS, I DID CALL ERIC, THE GENTLEMAN THAT WROTE IT, AND ASK HIM AND HE SAID, OKAY, GO AHEAD AND READ IT.

SO BEAR WITH ME JUST FOR A SECOND.

DEAR MR. MILLER, OR PERHAPS NOW I CAN CALL YOU JOHN.

AFTER ALL, IT HAS BEEN 25 YEARS SINCE I WAS IN YOUR MODEL UNITED NATIONS AT SOUTHVIEW HIGH SCHOOL.

I'M WRITING YOU BECAUSE I WANTED YOU TO KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THE MODEL UN WAS TO ME ALL THOSE MANY YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT.

I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS ONLY REALLY, WHEN MY DAUGHTER JUST JOINED THE MODEL UNITED NATIONS AT HER HIGH SCHOOL.

YOU MAY KNOW OR YOU MAY NOT KNOW.

I WORK FOR THE US DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND HAVE SINCE I GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE.

I'VE BEEN POSTED AROUND THE WORLD AND NOW MY WIFE AND I AND DAUGHTER LIVE IN D.C..

IT'S A JOB I LOVE AND YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE MODEL UNITED NATIONS AT SOUTHVIEW HIGH SCHOOL, THE TRAVEL TO CONFERENCES AROUND THE COUNTRY DEBATING ISSUES FROM A VARIETY OF NATIONAL PERSPECTIVES, HAVING YOU TAKE US TO HEAR SPEAKERS ON INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS, OUR RESEARCH INTO ISSUES AND THE MECHANISMS WHICH CAN BE EMPLOYED TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES WERE WHAT LED ME TO THE POSITION I NOW HOLD.

TO BE HONEST, HAD I NOT BEEN INVOLVED, HAD I NOT BEEN ACTIVE IN THE MODEL UN, I SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT I WOULD BE ENGAGED IN WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING THESE PAST

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YEARS. AS YOU RECALL, I WAS A GOOD STUDENT, BUT NOT A GREAT STUDENT.

YOU HAD ME IN CLASS, SO YOU KNOW THAT.

BUT IT WAS BEING INVOLVED WITH THE MODEL UN ACTUALLY DOING INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS THAT PROPELLED ME TO MY CAREER.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME MR. MILLER BUT I WANTED YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH A CLUB CAN AFFECT A LIFE.

I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. SURELY.

THANK YOU, MR. MILLER.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CHRIS FULMER, FOLLOWED BY MS. BJ KALAIDI. HI, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS CHRIS FULMER. I LIVE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE.

CHRIS, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU ONE MOMENT? I BEG YOUR PARDON? CAN YOU LIFT THAT MICROPHONE JUST A TINY BIT? NO WORRIES. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WEREN'T THERE A WEEK AGO, THERE WAS A MARCH FROM THE LEITNER GARDENER GARDENS TO THE FORT GROUNDS DOWN SAINT GEORGE STREET. IT WAS THE SPRING INTO ACTION RALLY SPONSORED BY THE YOUNG DEMOCRATS OF SAINT JOHNS COUNTY.

IT WAS WELL ATTENDED BY ALL AGES.

THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE MARCHING FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS, VOTING RIGHTS, LGBT RIGHTS, HEALTH CARE RIGHTS.

THEY HAD VOTER REGISTRATION.

WE GOT THE FORT, THEY HAD SPEAKERS.

IT WAS A VERY NICE EVENT.

AND IT WAS ENCOURAGING, ENCOURAGING TO SEE YOUNG PEOPLE INVOLVED BECAUSE THEY ARE INDEED THE FUTURE AND THEY'RE GOING TO OUTNUMBER US REALLY SOON.

SO I WANTED TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR INVOLVEMENT, FOR THEIR INTEREST IN THE FUTURE OF THEIR COUNTRY, AND I HOPE THEY KEEP IT UP.

THE STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS OVER, AND TO CALL IT DISAPPOINTING WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

THE ONE THING THAT TRULY NEEDED ATTENTION PROPERTY INSURANCE WAS VIRTUALLY IGNORED.

HOMEOWNERS ARE FACING UP TO 100% INCREASES OR MORE.

THEIR WINDSTORM POLICIES ARE INSANE.

THE FLOOD IS GOING UP.

CONDOS AND APARTMENTS ARE EVEN IN WORSE SHAPE.

MY CONDO IS GOING UP 150% JUST ON WINDSTORM.

MANY PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO USE THE INSURER OF LAST RESORT CITIZENS.

AND SO I BEG OUR LEGISLATORS, PLEASE, TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE THINGS THAT ACTUALLY AFFECT US.

I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE DRUG COURT AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THE GRADUATES.

THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE HERE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN AFFECTED BY DRUG ABUSE BY A FAMILY MEMBER OR A FRIEND.

WE NEED MORE COMPASSION IN OUR COURT SYSTEM.

WE NEED MORE COMPASSION IN OUR SOCIETY.

SO THANK YOU TO THEM.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE HISTORY FESTIVAL AND IT'S THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

SO THE SCHOOL FIELD TRIPS ARE WINDING DOWN AND IT'S NOT HIGH SUMMER SEASON YET, SO YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY GET A PARKING SPACE.

SO NOW IS THE TIME TO ENJOY YOUR CITY FOR A FEW WEEKS.

COME DOWN, PATRONIZE LOCAL BUSINESSES, TIP YOUR SERVERS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY, IF YOU COULD PLEASE HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE.

MS. KALAIDI. YOU'RE THE LAST SPEAKER CARD.

YOU ARE INVITED TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND SPEAK.

THIS DONE. THANK YOU.

BJ KALAIDI, WEST CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THESE PHOTOS, WHICH I'LL BE GOING THROUGH ARE OF OYSTER CREEK PARK AT US-1 AND LEWIS BOULEVARD AND ALONG SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY.

SLEEPING DURING THE DAY IS ALLOWED.

LOOK. AND JUDY, WHO KNOWNTO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELL, IT WENT AWAY.

THERE GOES MY TIME.

AND HERE WE GOT SLEEPERS.

GO TO SLEEP. OOP. YEP.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S LOUD.

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF SLEEPING DURING THE DAY IS OCCURRING AT COQUINA PARK? I DON'T THINK SO. THESE PHOTOS SHOW WHAT IS LEFT, INCLUDING DEPENDS IN THE PALM TREES.

PART OF THAT. SOME OF THIS.

SOME OF THAT.

THANK YOU, MISS DAWN.

YOU'RE DOING EXCELLENT.

AND THIS IS THE LAST ONE.

IT'S A SHAME BUT THIS GOES ON IN OUR CITY.

CRAZY STALLION CLASSIC LAGER CANS ARE LEFT IN AREA TWO CLOSE TO US-1 AND LEWIS BOULEVARD. I WAS ALLOWED TO BRING THIS IN.

DON'T WANT ANYONE TO PANIC.

THEY'RE EMPTY.

OKAY. THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.

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THE SOLUTION, NOT JUST TO SHOW YOU THIS, BUT I GOT A SOLUTION ON THIS ONE, WOULD BE THE SERENITY CLUB AT 18 SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY COULD ALLOW THESE INDIVIDUALS TO SLEEP ON THEIR PROPERTY.

PART OF THE RECOVERY COULD BE TO GO AROUND OYSTER CREEK AND PICK UP THE BEER CANS AND TRASH THAT IS LEFT BY INDIVIDUALS WHO DO NOT RESPECT THE PARK.

THIS IS ONGOING EVERYWHERE IN THIS CITY WHERE THE PARKS ARE, BUT I THINK MORE SO IN WEST CITY.

THEN I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON NUMBER TEN C.

WHAT WOULD BE THE COST TO TAXPAYERS FOR SIGNS? AND NUMBER TWO QUESTION WHO WILL DECIDE WHO RECEIVES THE DONATIONS TO ASSIST THE HOMELESS? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER BROUGHT ANYTHING IN TO REALLY SHOW YOU.

AND I THINK THE REASON FOCUS, FOCUS.

THANK YOU, MISS DAWN.

SHE'S GOOD.

KEEP HER. KEEP HER.

TO LET YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM AND WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE IT.

AND I HOPE WHENEVER YOU PASS OR DO WHATEVER YOU DO WITH TENNESSEE, THAT WILL TAKE EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERATION.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER CARDS? COMMENT CARDS? NO.

IF NOT, THEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

[5. CONSENT AGENDA]

UM, MR. CITY MANAGER, WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

GOOD EVENING. ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA, THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCES ARE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR SECOND READING ON MAY 22ND, 2023.

ORDINANCE 2023-16 UPDATE ZONING CODE REGARDING FOOD TRUCK DEFINITIONS, LOCATIONS AND SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS.

ORDINANCE 2023-17 ADDS STATUTORY LANGUAGE REGARDING DISABILITY IN THE LINE OF DUTY FOR FIREFIGHTERS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER.

WE HAVE A REMINDER OF UPCOMING MEETINGS THE MAY 22ND, 2023 3 P.M.

SPECIAL MEETING.

WE HAVE THE MAY 20TH 22ND 2023 5 P.M.

REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

JUNE 12TH, 2023 5 P.M.

REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING JUNE 26TH, 2023 5 P.M.

REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

WE HAVE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PRIOR COMMISSION MEETINGS.

MARCH 27TH, 2023 REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

WE HAVE A RELEASE OF LIEN FOR UNIT CONNECTION FEE MORTGAGE AT 445 POMONT AVENUE, BONNIE RACKLIFF.

WE HAVE A APPROVAL OF THE DONATION OF A RETIRING 2012 CHEVY TAHOE TO SAINT JOSEPH ACADEMY.

WE HAVE AN INVOICE FOR BAKER AND HOSTETLER LLP IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,760 FOR LEGAL SERVICES REGARDING THE PONCE ASSOCIATES MADEIRA SUBDIVISION.

MADAM MAYOR. YES? YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE THE FIRST BULLET ON ITEM CA THREE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA REGARDING THE SPECIAL MEETING.

WHAT? CA THREE THE MAY 22ND MEETING.

I'D LIKE TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

CA THREE VERSE BULLET.

MAY 22ND SPECIAL MEETING.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH A MODIFICATION TO DELETE THE FIRST BULLET [INAUDIBLE] TO DELETE IT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT BRING IT ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, IF WE COULD, FOR A BRIEF.

OH, YOU WANT TO MODIFY THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY, SO YOUR MOTION IS TO MODIFY THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES. ALL RIGHT.

SO WHAT WE WILL HEAR IS A MOTION.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED, EXCEPT FOR CA THREE A MAYBE.

WE'RE DOING THIS BACKWARDS, BUT HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT? I'LL MAKE THAT. NO, IT'S FINE.

IT'S FINE. SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN [INAUDIBLE]. IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE, AYE.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE WILL MOVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM CA THREE BULLET ONE TO.

YOU COULD DO IT RIGHT NOW IF YOU LIKE TO.

NOW. ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO IT.

OKAY. THE REASON I WANTED IT TO BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA IS THAT I THINK IT'S PREMATURE TO DO A STRATEGIC PLAN REVIEW WITH THE TRANSITION AND THE CITY MANAGER POSITION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE THAT STRATEGIC PLAN REVIEW TO SOMETIME LATER IN THE SUMMER OR AT ANOTHER, I THINK, IMPROVED TIME.

OKAY. WELL, I WOULD AGREE, EXCEPT THAT IT ALSO INCLUDES THE MID-YEAR FINANCIAL ANALYSIS, WHICH IS THOSE ARE FINE.

NO, NO, THOSE ARE FINE. I JUST WANT THE I JUST WANT THE STRATEGIC PLAN REVIEW TO BE REMOVED FROM THAT SPECIAL MEETING.

YES, MAYOR, THIS MAKES COMPLETE SENSE AND COMMISSIONER BLONDER AND I TALKED ABOUT IT FAIRLY EXTENSIVELY.

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THE MEETING IS REALLY ABOUT THE BUDGET.

AND ONE THING THE STRATEGIC PLAN REVIEW IS SHOULD BE A MULTI HOUR EVENT.

TYPICALLY, WE SCHEDULE IT IN THE MORNING.

I WOULD RECOMMEND SCHEDULING IT EARLIER IN EARLY JUNE.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN COVER IN THIS MEETING, I KNOW EACH OF YOUR PRIORITIES THAT ARE HAVE FINANCIAL FISCAL IMPACTS. AND SO MAYBE WE COULD JUST GET THOSE PRIORITIES ON THE TABLE WITHOUT HAVING AN EXTENSIVE REVIEW OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

THAT WAY, OUR FINANCE TEAM CAN START PLUGGING IN NUMBERS FOR THE BUDGET ITERATION, AND THAT WOULD WORK GREAT.

AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT BECAUSE IT WAS VERY AWKWARD FOR ME TO HAVE TO CONDUCT A STRATEGIC PLAN REVIEW KNOWING THAT I'M LEAVING IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE AND ENDORSE THE COMMISSIONER'S POINT.

WELL, AND YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.

HOWEVER, THE WAY WE SUPPOSE IT IS A BIT OF AN UNUSUAL YEAR FOR US, BUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS INTEGRAL TO OUR FINANCES AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO IS THERE ANY COMPONENT AT ALL THAT COULD BE INCLUDED? I CAN I CAN CUT TO THE CHASE ON TOPICS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE FINANCE TEAM THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF YOUR AGENDAS THAT YOU'VE BEEN SHARING WITH ME PRIVATELY.

WE'LL PUT THEM ON THE TABLE FOR THE FIRST TIME.

AND THEN WHEN YOU COME BACK INTO A LARGER STRATEGIC PLAN REVIEW THAT GETS INTO THE TOTAL LANGUAGE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THEN YOU CAN FURTHER FLESH THOSE ITEMS OUT.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE FINE AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG DAY, TOO.

ALL RIGHT. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WITH THE PROPER MODIFICATIONS? SURE. IF YOU WANT TO JUST, YOU KNOW, TO CLARIFY THE RECORD THAT THERE WILL BE A MEETING ON MAY 22ND AT 3 P.M..

ALL RIGHT. THEN WE WILL HAVE THE MEETING ON MAY 22ND AND THAT THE AGENDA WILL BE ADVERTISED.

THANK YOU ACCORDINGLY.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY, THEN.

VERY WELL.

ON WE GO.

SO WE HAVE NO GENERAL PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.

UM. SEVEN A ITEMS OF ITEM SEVEN B ITEMS OF GREAT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE.

ITEM 7 B ONE.

[7.B.1. City Manager appointment discussion. (J. Regan, City Manager)]

THIS IS THE CITY MANAGER APPOINTMENT DISCUSSION AND BEFORE I ASK CITY MANAGER JOHN REGAN TO KICK IT OFF OR I WILL KICK IT OFF.

AND THEN IF YOU NEED IT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, I'LL BE HAPPY TO.

YOU CAN ADD TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO SAY.

I WANT TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CALLED AND EMAILED AND GIVEN US INPUT ON THIS MATTER.

IT HAS BEEN VERY HEARTENING TO HAVE THE ENGAGEMENT OF THE PUBLIC ON THIS.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK EACH CANDIDATE FOR THEIR TIME, THEIR THOUGHTFULNESS, PREPARATION, PUTTING THEMSELVES OUT THERE, SO TO SPEAK.

AND I KNOW IT HAS TO BE A TOUGH PLACE TO BE IN RIGHT NOW.

EACH JUST TO EACH CANDIDATE YOU ARE, BUT YOU ARE ALL THREE VERY HIGHLY VALUED AND VALUABLE TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.

AND I THINK I SPEAK FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON AT THIS TABLE.

THAT HAS MADE THIS DECISION EVEN MORE CHALLENGING, AND I FEEL LIKE I'M SPEAKING FOR EVERYONE AT THIS TABLE.

UM. AS FOR ME, PLEASE KNOW THAT.

AND I HOPE I'M SPEAKING FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE AS WELL, THAT I WHATEVER DECISION IS MADE AVAILABLE TO DISCUSS MY DECISION AND ANY REMAINING OR LINGERING QUESTIONS, I'M FULLY OUT THERE READY TO TALK.

UM. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THE PROCESS, BECAUSE AS I SAID, THIS RESTS THIS DECISION RESTS SQUARELY ON OUR SHOULDERS AND OUR SHOULDERS ALONE.

AND WITH THAT SAID, I DO RECALL THAT EACH ONE OF YOU AGREED TO COME TO THIS MEETING WITH YOUR DECISION IN HAND, READY TO MAKE A VOTE.

SO THE PROCESS THAT I HAVE IN MIND IS THAT I THINK WHAT WOULD BE BEST IS THAT IF I WOULD CALL ON YOU ONE BY ONE.

UM, IF YOU ALL AGREE AND CALL YOU ONE BY ONE TO SPEAK INDIVIDUALLY WITH NO CROSS TALK NECESSARILY OR DISCUSSION ITEM, BUT EACH ONE OF US SHOULD HAVE A FULL AMOUNT OF TIME TO SAY WHAT WE NEED TO SAY, AND THAT WILL GIVE EVERYONE UNINTERRUPTED TIME TO SPEAK AND ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL TO US.

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LISTEN TO OUR PEERS THOROUGHLY.

I WILL ALSO ASK THAT YOU PLEASE KEEP YOUR POINTS CONCISE AND IN A POSITIVE FRAME.

NOW THAT'S MY THING.

HOW ABOUT ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO ADD, MR. CITY MANAGER? I'LL JUST SAY, I KNOW THAT I'VE SPOKE WITH EACH OF YOU.

I KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'VE BEEN, HOW THOUGHTFUL, HOW IT'S BEEN A DIFFICULT CHOICE.

AND FOR ME, I FEEL GOOD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THREE SO HIGHLY QUALIFIED CANDIDATES FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND TO BE A DIFFICULT CHOICE.

AND I'VE ENJOYED EACH OF OUR CONVERSATIONS.

I'VE LEARNED QUITE A BIT ABOUT EACH OF YOU IN THE PROCESS AND WHAT YOU VALUE.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU. WELL SAID.

THANK YOU. I COULD ADD A LOT TO THAT, BUT.

I THINK WE HAVE AN IMPORTANT BUSINESS HERE TO ATTEND TO.

SO I WOULD I WOULD START IF EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THE PROCESS I LAID OUT.

I WILL START WITH VICE MAYOR ROXANNE HORVATH.

OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THIS IS AN EXCITING DAY.

OUR DECISION TONIGHT IS NOT AN EASY ONE, AS WE ALL KNOW.

I'M SURE ALL OF US HAVE HAD MANY PEOPLE REACHING OUT TO US, WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED, IN SUPPORT OF EACH OF THESE CANDIDATES.

WE ALL KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS DECISION.

IT WILL IMPACT OUR CITY FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

HAVING SERVED AS CITY COMMISSIONER FOR NOW MY 11TH YEAR, AS WELL AS PROFESSIONALLY AS AN ARCHITECT AND FOR NUMEROUS YEARS IN PLANNING AND ZONING AND ON MANY OF THE BOARDS FOR THE CITY. I KNOW EACH OF THESE OUTSTANDING APPLICANTS.

I'VE REALLY ENJOYED THE SELECTION PROCESS FROM THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN AT OUR LAST MEETING TO THE ONE ON ONE INTERVIEWS. I'VE LEARNED A LOT.

AND IT MAKES ME REALIZE THAT PERHAPS I SHOULD MEET WITH OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS MORE OFTEN TO HEAR DIRECTLY THEIR INSIGHTS.

I FEEL EACH CANDIDATE BRINGS A UNIQUE SET OF SKILLS THAT ARE BENEFICIAL TO OUR SPECIAL CITY.

AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT ALL THREE WORK FOR OUR CITY.

MY ANALYSIS HAS LED ME TO THE SELECTION OF DAVID BIRCHIM FOR OUR CITY MANAGER.

HE HAS SERVED FOR OVER A YEAR AS THE ASSISTANT MANAGER, WHICH HAS GIVEN HIM A BREADTH OF EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE OF MOST OF OUR CURRENT HOT ISSUES PROJECTS THAT WILL, WHEN COMPLETED, FURTHER OUR VISION FOR THE CITY.

HE KNOWS THE PEOPLE INVOLVED ON THESE PROJECTS AND HAS PROVEN THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND COMMUNICATING THESE ISSUES.

I'M HAPPY WE HAVE TAKEN THE POSITION TO HIRE FOR THIS IMPORTANT POSITION FROM WITHIN OUR CURRENT STAFF.

WE HAVE OUTSTANDING PEOPLE WORKING FOR THE CITY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ISSUE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD.

WELL, I THANK VICE MAYOR FOR SAYING ALL MY NOTES SO ELOQUENTLY.

THE THREE THE THREE CANDIDATES WERE A PLEASURE TO MEET WITH AND TO LEARN ABOUT THROUGH PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS.

I GOT A LOT OF INPUT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND IT WAS JUST REALLY NICE.

I THINK THE PRESENTATIONS HELPED BRING THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN THAT.

ALL THE INTERVIEWS WENT WELL AS EXPECTED.

YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO SURPRISES THERE.

BUT BUT ONE CANDIDATE DID STAND OUT.

AND I THINK PART OF THIS IS THAT WE NEED TO RESPECT THE SUCCESSION PLAN THAT THE CITY HAS IF WE'RE GOING TO HIRE WITHIN A GOOD MANAGER, WOULD PLAN FOR HIS EXIT OR HIS EXCUSE ME, DEATH OR HOSPITALIZATION WITH SOMEONE WITH A PLAN OF HOW THE CITY WOULD CONTINUE TO RUN WITH LEADERSHIP.

AND SO I ALSO AM RECOMMENDING THAT WE HIRE DAVID BIRCHIM FOR THAT REASON.

HE SAT IN THE POSITION OF SUBSTITUTE.

HE ALSO TO ME, WHAT SOLD ME COMPLETELY WAS HIS PRESENTATION.

HE DOES SEE THE BREADTH OF WHAT THE CITY NEEDS.

HE'S FOCUSED ON IMPROVEMENT AND I THINK HE'S READY TO TAKE THE THE REINS.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD.

COMMISSIONER GARRIS.

UM, IT WAS REALLY REFRESHING TO INTERVIEW AND TO MEET WITH ALL THE CANDIDATES.

I HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT WINDOW BECAUSE I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH THEM.

BUT I TOO TALKED TO THEM AND I'VE HAD TO MEET WITH MEREDITH AND DAVID WHEN JOHN WASN'T AVAILABLE.

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AND I SEE A LEVEL OF PRECISENESS THAT DAVID BIRCHIM BRINGS TO THE CITY.

I KNOW THAT PLANNING AND ZONING WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, WAS RUNNING EFFECTIVELY PRIOR TO HIM BEING SELECTED TO BE THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB.

AND I DID SPEAK TO THE CITY MANAGER AS TO WHY HE TOOK HIM OFF FOR PLANNING AND PLANNING AND ZONING, BECAUSE I LIKE TO KNOW EVERY ASPECT BEFORE I MAKE A DECISION, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE HAD THREE GREAT CANDIDATES.

AND HE SAID BECAUSE HE WAS, YOU KNOW, HE HAD TOO MUCH ON HIS PLATE, BASICALLY.

AND BIRCHIM JUMPED IN THERE AND DID THE THING.

WHAT I LIKED BEST ABOUT DAVID BIRCHIM, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A LOT OF CALLS AND A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THE OTHER TWO CANDIDATES ARE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE SOCIAL.

BUT DAVID REMINDS ME OF I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WATCHED DEXTER, AND HE'S SO PRECISE ABOUT FIXING THINGS AND DOING THINGS, BUT WHEN HE'S FINISHED, IT'S EXCELLENT.

AND SO HE HAS THAT CONCEPT AND IT'S NOT SAYING ONE PATTERN OR ANOTHER PATTERN IS BETTER, BUT HE'S A GREAT PRESENTER, SO HE WILL REPRESENT OUR CITY WELL.

THE THING ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER, THEY ARE OUR FACE OF THE CITY AND THEY ARE THE FIRST AREA OF CONTACT THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO REACH OUT TO WHEN THEY WANT TO ENGAGE IN ANY KIND OF CITY GOVERNMENT.

AND I THINK HE WILL DO US PROUD.

I THINK HE IS DETERMINED.

I THINK HE IS FOCUSED.

AND HE EVEN SAID DURING THE COURSE OF HIS PRESENTATION THAT HE'S GOING TO BE GOING AROUND TO DIFFERENT THINGS, TO THE BUSINESSES AND DIFFERENT THINGS AND BE MORE AVAILABLE.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GARRIS.

COMMISSIONER BLONDER.

I'M GOING TO STEP IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND I HAVE.

I'LL BE AS BRIEF AS I CAN, I PROMISE.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY EVERYTHING THAT I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO SAY.

FIRST, I'M GOING TO START WITH THIS IS AN EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT DECISION.

I HAVE AGONIZED OVER IT.

I HAVE LISTENED TO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAS CONTACTED ME.

I DEEPLY RESPECT THEIR INSIGHTS.

AND I CERTAINLY THE MOST DIFFICULT DECISION IN MY RELATIVELY BRIEF TENURE ON THE COMMISSION AND THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE BY FAR, ANY ONE OF THESE CANDIDATES.

WE HAD THREE GREAT INTERNAL CANDIDATES AND ANYONE WOULD MAKE AN EXCELLENT CITY MANAGER.

ALL THREE HAVE A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE.

THEY DON'T JUST HAVE A POSITIVE ATTITUDE TOWARD THE CITY AND THEIR COWORKERS AND A DEEPLY FELT, DEMONSTRABLE PASSION FOR AND COMMITMENT TO THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

EVERY ONE OF THEM CAME ACROSS WITH THOSE VALUES.

DURING THE PROCESS OF INTERVIEWING THE THREE CANDIDATES.

I PROVIDED ALL THREE OF THEM.

I THINK SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, IF NOT ALL OF YOU, PROVIDED THEM WITH PREPARED QUESTIONS OVER TWO ROUNDS OF PRIVATE INTERVIEWS AND DURING THE SECOND ASKED THEM TO COMMENT ON AN ARTICLE THAT ADDRESSES SPRAWL AND ITS RELATIONSHIP TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

AS WE ALL DID.

I CAREFULLY CONSIDERED THEIR PRESENTATIONS AT OUR LAST MEETING, AND THEN I MADE A SPREADSHEET.

YOU MAY RECALL THAT MY CAMPAIGN WAS DEEPLY ROOTED IN WHAT I HAVE LEARNED AND APPLIED DURING THE FULL SCOPE OF MY CAREER AS A SCIENTIST AND AS AN ECOLOGIST IN PARTICULAR.

WHAT I'VE HAD THE RARE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AS A COMMISSIONER IS THAT THE CITY, THE CITY NOT ONLY FACES ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES SUCH AS FLOOD RESILIENCY, BUT ALSO FACES DEEPLY IMPORTANT SOCIAL ISSUES.

WHAT I NOW KNOW IS THAT WE CAN ONLY BE SUCCESSFUL IN MEETING OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES IF WE WORK AT THE SAME TIME TO MEET OUR SOCIAL CHALLENGES AS IS HAPPENING IN MANY, MANY OTHER COUNTRIES.

AND SO IN ANY EVENT, SO MY SPREADSHEET INCLUDED, I'M JUST GOING TO PUT THEM INTO CATEGORIES HERE FOR ATTRIBUTES, STRATEGIC PLANNING AND VISION/ QUALITY OF LIFE WORKFORCE AND PERSONAL ATTRIBUTES FOR THE POSITION IN SOME CASES.

I MEAN, IT WAS LITERALLY I PUT NUMBERS TO EACH ONE OF THEM BECAUSE I LIKE TO QUANTIFY THINGS AND I'M A PROFESSOR AND SO WE USE GRADING RUBRICS.

AND WITHOUT GOING INTO GREAT DETAIL, BUT THE ANALYTICAL SKILLS, FOR EXAMPLE, OF MR. GRANT AND HIS MAINTAINING THE HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT PEOPLE DON'T EVEN RECOGNIZE UNTIL SOMETHING BREAKS DOWN, THOSE ARE AMAZINGLY, HE'S

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OUT THERE DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE RAIN BOMB WHEN THE SEWAGE MAIN IS BROKEN WITH HIS STAFF.

THAT'S A HUGELY IMPORTANT SKILL.

DAVID BIRCHIM HAS LED US FROM EVERYTHING FROM THE SAILING CENTER TO THE TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE PRECIPICE OF THESE REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES.

AND THEN REUBEN FRANKLIN, OF COURSE, HAS SPEARHEADED THE MOBILITY PLAN.

SO HE UNDERSTANDS THE NEED TO REALLY HAVE A TIGHT FOCUS ON A PRIORITY ISSUE AND MAINTAIN THAT.

SO I END WITH REUBEN BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE HE'S THE ONE WHO CAN HELP US BUILD SUPPORT FOR MAKING AND IMPLEMENTING THE DIFFERENT THE DIFFICULT DECISIONS WITH OUR CITIZENS, BUT ALSO ACROSS BOUNDARIES ORGANIZATIONAL, NATIONAL, REGIONAL AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND INTEREST GROUPS BOTH WITHIN AND OUTSIDE THE CITY.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO CREATE AN EVEN BETTER WORLD CLASS CITY TO MAINTAIN OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, TO MAKE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE BETTER FOR OUR CITIZENS AND A BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR OUR TOURISTS.

AND IT'S MY OPINION THAT MR. FRANKLIN IS UNIQUELY POSITIONED TO MEET THAT CHARGE.

I WILL SAY, HOWEVER, THAT IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THIS COMMISSION, IN MY OPINION, HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE.

AND SO I AM, BECAUSE OF THE TIGHTNESS OF THIS DECISION MAKING PROCESS, I AM WILLING TO CHANGE MY VOTE IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT THE COMMISSION IS HEADED.

THANK YOU. AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

SO FOR ME, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN TOUGH.

IT'S IT'S GREAT TO HEAR ALL THESE ALL OF YOUR OPINIONS ON THINGS.

SO AS FOR ME, I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET EACH CANDIDATE IN PERSON TWICE, LISTENED TO THE PRESENTATION AT THE LAST MEETING, AND I TOO HAVE COME TO A DECISION.

IT HAS NOT BEEN EASY.

JUST AS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID, I DO SUPPORT DAVID BIRCHIM AS OUR NEXT CITY MANAGER.

HE WAS PLACED IN THE CITY MANAGER POSITION FOR A GOOD REASON.

IT WAS SUCCESSION PLANNING AND HE WAS CAPABLE OF DOING IT AND IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME IN HIS LIFE AND HIS CAREER.

HE IS EXPERIENCED.

HE IS SEASONED, HE IS TESTED.

HE HAS A QUIET CALMNESS AND HE CONDUCTS HIMSELF AT ALL TIMES IN A HIGHLY PROFESSIONAL MANNER.

HE FOLLOWS UP AND HE FOLLOWS THROUGH.

DAVID IS ALSO A GOOD COMMUNICATOR IN BOTH IN SPEAKING AND IN WRITING.

AND HE IS A GOOD PROBLEM SOLVER.

AND LORD, WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS THAT NEED TO BE SOLVED.

IN ONE PARTICULAR AREA.

HIS SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE HAVE STOOD OUT TO ME, AND THAT IS THE AREA OF LAND USE.

HIS UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING ARE SO IMPORTANT AND IF THERE IS ANY ONE ISSUE THAT STANDS OUT THAT REALLY GETS US IN THE CITY, IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WRAPPED AROUND THE AXLE, IT'S LAND USE CONFLICT.

AND I THINK DAVID IS PARTICULARLY STRONG IN THAT AREA.

OBVIOUSLY THAT'S HIS BACKGROUND.

UM, I WILL SAY THIS ABOUT DAVID IS WHAT I HAVE COME TO KNOW HIM AND WORK WITH HIM OVER THESE LAST 14 YEARS.

HE DOES RESPECT PUBLIC OPINION, HIGHLY RESPECTS PUBLIC OPINION, AND THAT IS SO IMPORTANT.

HE HAS THE RESPECT OF HIS PEERS AND HIS COWORKERS.

AND I DON'T HAVE MUCH ELSE TO ADD WITHOUT GETTING MYSELF IN TROUBLE.

BUT SORRY.

I KNOW THIS IS A HEAVY MOMENT, BUT I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE DAVID BIRCHIM AS OUR NEXT CITY MANAGER.

I WILL SECOND THAT.

OKAY. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

NANCY SIKES-KLINE YES.

ROXANNE HORVATH YES.

JIM SPRINGFIELD.

YES. BARBARA BLONDER.

YES. CYNTHIA GARRIS.

YES. ALL RIGHT.

THAT DECISION IS MADE.

CONGRATULATIONS, MR. BIRCHIM. YOU WILL BE OUR NEXT CITY MANAGER [APPLAUSE].

YES. AND THANK YOU TO OUR OTHER TWO CANDIDATES FOR STEPPING FORWARD, LIKE I SAID, AND PUTTING YOUR NAME FORWARD.

MR. GRANT AND MR. FRANKLIN, WHO IS NOT WITH US, BUT WE KNOW HE IS WATCHING LIVE STREAMING AS AS HE AS HE CAN.

WITH THAT SAID, WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL BUSINESS TO CONDUCT ON THIS DECISION.

MR. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD AT THIS MOMENT BEFORE BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK.

I DO NOT. OKAY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

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WE WILL RECESS FOR THE NEXT.

IS TEN MINUTES ENOUGH? 15, 20 MINUTES.

OKAY. WE WILL RECESS FOR 20 MINUTES.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

I'M CALLING THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

WE ARE ON ITEM SEVEN B TWO REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE CITY MANAGER EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT TEMPLATE.

[7.B.2. Review and approval of the City Manager employment contract tremplate. (I. Lopez, City Attorney)]

UM. MS. CITY ATTORNEY, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS A BIT ANTICLIMACTIC AFTER THE LAST ITEM, BUT THIS IS SORT OF THE HOUSEKEEPING PORTION OF IT BEFORE YOU IS THE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME TEMPLATE YOU SAW AT OUR LAST MEETING WITH THE COUPLE OF CHANGES THAT YOU REQUESTED.

THE FIRST WAS IN SECTION TWO, INCLUDING THE JOB, THE APPROVED JOB DESCRIPTION INTO SECTION TWO AND THEN IN SECTION SIX AS WELL.

REGARDING A CLARIFICATION REGARDING THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT AND ROTATION PROCEDURES, I'VE INCLUDED IT IN STRIKETHROUGH IN CLEAN VERSIONS.

IF YOU WANT TO JUST ROLL YOUR EYES OVER IT AND SEE THAT THE CHANGES YOU REQUESTED ARE IN THE CITY MANAGER TEMPLATE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE TEMPLATE AND THEN ALL THAT WILL BE LEFT IS PLACING IN MR. BIRCHIM'S NAME HIS START DATE AND THE SALARY THAT HE WILL BE TOUCHING BASE WITH EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY ON.

ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS WITH THE CHANGES MADE.

I SECOND AND I WANTED TO THANK THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR PUTTING THAT ALL TOGETHER FOR US.

IT LOOKS GREAT. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? FURTHER DEBATE.

IT'S NOT.

IT IS RELATED.

SECTION 11 IS THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER I KNOW WE HAVEN'T SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS FOR THAT THAT WE WERE GOING TO FOLLOW.

AND THAT'S A NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART THAT KIND OF I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LEAVE THAT OFF SOMEWHERE IN DISCUSSION SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

THERE ARE SOME MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS IN IT IF YOU IF YOU SCROLL THROUGH, THERE'S A PROCESS OF A WRITTEN SUMMARY AND EVALUATION, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE EMPLOYEE TO RESPOND AND FOR YOU TO LOOK AT IT AS WELL.

BUT IT IS IT'S IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THEN THE IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A BREACH OF THE CONTRACT.

AND THE THE NEW CITY MANAGER WOULD ONLY GET THE AVERAGE OF THE RAISE THAT IS GIVEN TO ALL OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES.

YEAH. YEAH. SO I KNOW IT'S VERY MINIMAL WHAT'S IN THERE.

AND I KNOW IN THE PAST, PRIOR TO YOU COMING ON, THERE'S BEEN SOME BACK AND FORTH WITH MR .

REGAN ON WHEN TO HAVE THE ANNUAL EVALUATION AND WHAT TO INCLUDE.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS A SUBJECT OF BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CITY COMMISSION.

OKAY. YES. AND I'M GENERALLY OF THE OPINION THAT IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE BUDGET.

UM, BUT THAT HAS CHANGED, LIKE MS. LOPEZ SAID IT'S KIND OF STARTED IN ONE PLACE, MOVED TO ANOTHER.

BUT, MR. CITY MANAGER, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? UM, FIRST, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN EVALUATED BY EVERY COMMISSIONER ON EVERY EVALUATION, BUT MOST OF MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN MOST COMMISSIONERS LIKE TO HAVE A VERY DEEP, PRIVATE DISCUSSION. WE HAVE DEVELOPED A VERY GOOD WHAT I THINK IS A VERY GOOD EVALUATION FORM.

IT'S A MODIFIED INTERNATIONAL CITY MANAGERS ASSOCIATION EVALUATION FORM AND KIND OF REALLY HITS THE HIGHLIGHTS.

JUST YOU'RE BRINGING BACK A RECOLLECTION.

ONE OF THE REASONS THAT IT DID MOVE AROUND HAD TO DO WITH HURRICANES AND OR COVID, I BELIEVE.

SO THERE WERE SOME REASONS WE NORMALLY DO ALL EMPLOYEE EVALUATIONS IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER.

AND SO IT WAS THAT WAS THE CYCLE.

YEAH. SO AND I DON'T DOES THIS HOW DOES THIS CONTRACT STATE TEMPLATE STATE DOES IT JUST REFER TO IT OR DOES IT SAY WHEN IT IS? IT JUST REFERS TO IT.

THERE'S NO SPECIFIC DATE JUST BECAUSE, AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, THAT COULD CHANGE AROUND AND YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO BE IN A SCENARIO.

THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER, BLONDER, I THINK THE CITY MANAGER ANSWERED, MADE MY POINT THAT I WAS GOING.

OKAY, GREAT, GREAT.

ALL RIGHT. SO DOES ANYONE HAVE A MOTION TO OFFER? I DID. OH, YOU DID? OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? YES, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND WE WERE IN DEBATE.

OKAY, I'M CATCHING UP.

THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

THERE ARE NONE. UNANIMOUS VOTE.

EXCELLENT. SO.

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LOST MY PLACE FOR A MINUTE THERE.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS.

WE HAVE A SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING FOR ORDINANCE 2023-15, MS.

[8.A. Ordinances - Second Reading 8.A.1. Ordinance 2023-15: Second reading ordinance clarifying residency requirements of the City Manager. (I. Lopez, City Attorney)]

CITY ATTORNEY. YES.

SIMILARLY, YOU HAD TASKED ME WITH COMING UP WITH THREE ALTERNATIVES.

SO YOU'LL HAVE TO PICK ONE OF THE THREE.

THE THREE ALTERNATIVES WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING WAS TO HAVE A RADIUS FROM THIS LOCATION.

CITY HALL HAVE A FIVE MILE RADIUS FOR RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT FOR THE CITY MANAGER, A SEVEN MILE RADIUS AND A TEN MILE RADIUS.

SO PICK ONE OF THE THREE IF YOU'RE SO INCLINED.

SO I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GO ON THIS.

SO WE HEARD TONIGHT THAT THE 80 ACRES, JUST FOR JUST FOR REFERENCE SAKE, IS APPROXIMATELY FIVE MILES FROM THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC CORE.

SO IT WAS WITHIN THE FIVE MILES OF THE CORE.

YES. I'M SORRY.

IS APPROXIMATELY FIVE MILES.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT ON YOUR LITTLE MAPS.

SO IF YOU SCROLL OR FLIP, DEPENDING ON IF YOU HAVE A PAPER VERSION, YOU SHOULD SEE A MAP GENERATED BY GIS OF OF EVERY OF THE THREE OPTIONS. SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE KEY THE FIRST ONE HAS A RADIUS OF FIVE MILES.

YOU ONLY HAVE ONE MAP.

OH NO, THERE'S ONE FOR EACH.

SOMEHOW IT JUST GOT EATEN UP.

YOU SHOULD HAVE THREE ORDINANCES AND THREE MAPS.

THE FIRST ONE.

I'M NOT SURE.

PERHAPS MARIN CAN HELP ME PUT IT UP.

ONE. SO YOU SHOULD HAVE.

I DOWNLOADED MINE FROM THE WEB PAGE.

SO BLESSEDLY THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE ALL THREE.

SO GENERALLY THE REFERENCE POINT.

THIS ONE MINE SHOWS FIVE MILES.

NO CAN DO THIS, I THINK WITH A RADIUS, NANCY.

YES, THE RADIUS IS FIVE MILES.

BUT HOLMES BOULEVARDS ABOUT TWO, TWO AND A HALF IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP.

OH, IS THAT IT? YOU GO NORTH AND THEN GO NORTH.

OKAY. THAT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT TO ME.

BUT. OKAY, SO WITH THE CENTER POINT BEING HERE AT CITY HALL, THE FIVE MILE RADIUS EXTENDS NORTH OF THE AIRPORT ALMOST TO I-95 ON THE WEST, RIGHT NORTH OF THE AIRPORT, ON THE NORTH DOWN TO SAINT AUGUSTINE SHORES IN THE SOUTH.

AND OF COURSE, WE KNOW THE OCEAN.

SO HOW HOW DOES EVERYBODY FEEL ABOUT THE FIVE MILES? YEAH. NO, IT WASN'T INITIALLY.

BUT WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY, NO FURTHER THAN A SINGLE POINT OUT, FIVE MILES FROM ANY BOUNDARY OF THE CITY.

BUT THIS DOES THE SAME THING, WHAT I THOUGHT.

YEAH, BUT THIS DOES THE SAME THING IF WE PUT IT AT SEVEN MILES, IT ESSENTIALLY DOES THE SAME EXACT THING FOR ME.

WE DISCUSSED IT AT THE LAST MEETING.

COMMISSIONER BLONDER IS CORRECT.

HER INITIAL SUGGESTION WAS FROM ALL THE BOUNDARIES.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A VERY INTERESTING BOUNDARY.

YEAH. AND I JUST THOUGHT FOR SIMPLICITY'S SAKE, MAKING A DOT AT HERE AT CITY HALL AND LOOKING AT FIVE MILES OUT, SEVEN MILES OUT AND TEN MILES OUT, AND THEY ARE FIXING TO, THAT'S A GOOD SOUTHERNISM, TO SHOW YOU THOSE THREE MAPS.

SO IS THAT THE FIVE MILE OUT, FIVE, FIVE MILE RADIUS? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT, MADAM MAYOR.

YES, HE'S WORKING ON JUST DOING A ROUGH CALCULATION.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT JUST BY KNUCKLES AND THE SCALE HERE.

THE LEGEND, THE THE SEVEN MILES OUT REALLY DOES GET RIGHT ABOUT WHERE THE FURTHEST BOUNDARY WOULD BE ON THE WEST, FOR EXAMPLE.

BUT SO IT'S.

SO LET'S GO WITH SEVEN MILES.

I WOULD SAY GO WITH SEVEN MILES.

PAST [INAUDIBLE] WOULD BE ROUGHLY VERMONT HEIGHTS ON THE WEST PAST THE INTERSTATE.

PAST THE CASTLE NORTH OF CASTLE COLA ON THE NORTH.

AND THEN I REALLY.

IT'S SO SMALL.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT.

OH, IT'S EVERYWHERE. BUT JACKSONVILLE, BASICALLY.

WELL, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE NORTHWEST PART OF THE COUNTY.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. SO, OKAY, SO WE ARE IN A PUBLIC WE ARE ON A SECOND READING.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MS.

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LOPEZ BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.

I HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD AND THAT IS MS. BJ KALAIDI. KALAIDI.

BJ KALAIDI, WEST CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I JUST WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD AS SAYING I DON'T THINK THE CITY MANAGER SHOULD LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.

AND THE REASON IS WE IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE GET TO PAY DOUBLE TAXES.

WE PAY IN THE CITY, WE PAY IN THE COUNTY.

AND IF YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTY AND YOU REPRESENT US IN THE CITY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY OUR DOUBLE TAXES.

AND I THINK THAT'S VERY WRONG.

I THINK YOU SHOULD IT WOULD HELP, I THINK IF IT WAS REQUIRED THAT THEY MOVE INTO THE CITY IF SOMEBODY GETS IT THAT LIVES IN THE COUNTY.

BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS RIGHT TO HAVE SOMEONE REPRESENTING OUR CITY THAT DOES NOT LIVE IN THE CITY AND DOES NOT HAVE TO PAY WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY SO THEY CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE WE AS RESIDENTS AND TAXPAYERS ARE COMING FROM.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO WHAT WOULD YOU WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS ANY RECONSIDERATION OF THIS ORDINANCE? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

THANK YOU. SO THE CONCERN, MADAM MAYOR, WAS THAT TO BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE OUR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND OTHER ISSUES FOR THE CITY, BUT I DON'T I DON'T FEEL STRONGLY THAT THEY NEED TO LIVE IN THE CITY.

I THINK THEY NEED TO BE IN PROXIMITY.

SO IF SEVEN MILES SATISFIES WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO COMMISSIONER BLONDER, THEN THAT MIGHT BE THE VOTE.

MADAM MAYOR? YES, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE SPEAKER'S COMMENT, AND I THINK IT DOES PROVIDE A LIVING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

I MEAN, ALL OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS NEED TO AND I DEFINITELY HAVE A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE THAN I WOULD IF I LIVED IN SAINT AUGUSTINE SHORES.

SO I'M SYMPATHETIC TO HER POINT AND I'M DEBATING WHETHER I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THAT.

I'M INCLINED TO AGREE WITH THE SPEAKER THAT I HAVE HAD FEEDBACK.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU OTHER FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE HAD FEEDBACK, BUT I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN GEORGE GARNER BECAME MAYOR AND THE STRONG, STRONG SENTIMENT THAT RAN ALONG THE COMMUNITY, THAT BEING A RESIDENT IS DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

LIVING IN THE CITY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND SO I'M.

WAS HAVE BEEN REMINDED OF THAT.

AND SO I'M INCLINED TO SAY THIS ORDINANCE ISN'T NEEDED.

WELL, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD CLARIFY YOUR EXISTING LANGUAGE BECAUSE IF YOU SCROLL DOWN TO YOUR EXISTING LANGUAGE, IT IS EXTREMELY AMBIGUOUS WHETHER RESIDENCY IN THE CITY IS EVEN NECESSARY.

IT'S ODD LANGUAGE.

IT DATES BACK FROM, I THINK, THE 20S.

IT CURRENTLY READS THE CITY MANAGER SHALL BE CHOSEN SOLELY ON THE BASIS OF EXECUTIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE QUALIFICATIONS, COMMA, WITHOUT REGARD TO POLITICAL BELIEFS, COMMA, AND NEED NOT BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OR STATE AT THE TIME OF APPOINTMENT.

AND IT ENDS IT THERE.

SO IT IMPLIES THAT AT SOME POINT THERE IS A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.

CERTAINLY YOU'D HAVE TO MOVE IN STATE AND PRESUMABLY CLOSE BY ENOUGH TO ASSUME OFFICE, BUT IT LEAVES IT SORT OF HANGING, WHICH WAS THE BEGINNING OF OUR CONVERSATION OF YOU PROBABLY WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT BECAUSE LEAVING IT WITH NEED NOT BE RESIDENT OF THE CITY OR STATE AT THE TIME OF APPOINTMENT.

THANK YOU. AND SO THE LOGIC WOULD BE IF YOU WANTED TO CORRECT THAT AND YOU WANTED TO BE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE THAT YOUR CITY MANAGER SHOULD LIVE IN THE CITY, YOU COULD ADD A PHRASE THAT OR A PART OF A SENTENCE THAT SAYS MUST RESIDE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS WITHIN ONE MONTH AND HAVE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, 12 MONTHS OR 16 MONTHS OR 15 MONTHS TO RETAIN RESIDENCY IN THE CITY.

MY SUGGESTION IS IF THE AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE I UNDERSTAND. BUT I TAKE YOUR POINT THAT IT DOES LEAVE HANGING.

BUT IT WAS MY SUGGESTION IS IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO NOT HAVE THE THREE MILE OR THE FIVE MILE, SEVEN MILE OR TEN MILE AND TO GO

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BACK TO REQUIRING RESIDENCY IN THE CITY.

MY SUGGESTION TO YOU THEN IS YOU MAKE AN AMENDMENT FROM THE FLOOR THAT ADDS THE CURRENT SENTENCE ENDS, AT THE TIME OF APPOINTMENT, BUT MUST RESIDE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS WITHIN ONE MONTH OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF ASSUMING OFFICE PERIOD.

SO THE PHRASEOLOGY THAT WAS SUGGESTED REMAINS FROM ASSUMING OFFICE.

SO YOU COULD NEGOTIATE THAT SOME THE START DATE BE SAY YOU SELECT SOMEONE JANUARY 1ST AND THROUGH YOUR PROCESS.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT RELEVANT TODAY BECAUSE WE'VE JUST PICKED MR. BIRCHIM BUT SAY YOU WOULD GO THROUGH A SELECTION PROCESS.

YOU SELECT SOMEONE IN JANUARY, YOU SAY YOU'RE BEGINNING DATE IS MARCH 1ST, ONE MONTH FROM MARCH 1ST, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY BE HERE.

THE POINT BEING, WHEN YOU ASSUME OFFICE, YOU CANNOT BE AN OFF SITE EMPLOYEE TO BE CITY MANAGER.

YOU REALLY DO HAVE WHEN YOUR START DATE BEGINS, WHATEVER THAT START DATE IS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO MOVE HERE WITHIN A MONTH OF THAT START DATE.

SO IT GIVES YOU LOTS OF FLEXIBILITY TO NEGOTIATE WITH AN EMPLOYEE OR AN OUTSIDE PERSON.

MANY MONTHS TO ACTUALLY TAKE OFFICE.

BUT THEN ONCE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO START BEING THE ACTING CITY MANAGER, THEY REALLY HAVE TO BE HERE WITHIN A MONTH, I WOULD ASSUME, WHEN WE CHATTED ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. CITY MANAGER, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.

THANK YOU. I RESPECTFULLY HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION THAT I WANT TO VOICE.

OKAY. ALMOST ALL CITY MANAGER JOBS THAT I'VE SEEN THAT REQUIRE RESIDENCY IN THE CITY, GIVE THE CANDIDATE A LONGER TIME FRAME TO MOVE BECAUSE OFTEN YOU'RE MOVING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, YOU'RE JUST RENTING SOMETHING TEMPORARY.

AND SO MOST JOB DESCRIPTIONS THAT I'VE SEEN AND I'VE SEEN A NUMBER BECAUSE WE GET BROCHURES ALL THE TIME, TALK SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR. BUT I THINK THE FIRST QUESTION IS, ARE THERE THREE VOTES ON THE COMMISSION TO MAKE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT? AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN PICK A STANDARD A MONTH, 6 MONTHS OR 12.

BUT IF THERE ISN'T THREE VOTES FOR THAT, THEN PICK A RADIUS.

OKAY. COULD I SPEAK? I FEEL IT'S LIMITING.

OUR OPTIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE TWO PEOPLE THAT WERE APPLICANTS FOR THIS POSITION THIS TIME DIDN'T WORK IN THE CITY, LIVE IN THE CITY, IT'S A HARDSHIP.

WE KNOW WHAT THE PRICES OF HOUSES ARE HERE IN OUR CITY.

I MEAN, THERE ARE EXCEEDINGLY HIGH.

UM, AND I JUST I DON'T THINK IT MAKES THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE.

I MEAN, THEY'RE COMING IN AND OUT FOR THEIR WORK MANY, MANY TIMES A DAY AND EXPERIENCING THE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW? SO I FEEL STRONGLY THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT SOME REALLY GOOD PEOPLE THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO HIRE FROM WITHIN AGAIN.

HOPEFULLY WE WON'T BE DOING THAT ANYTIME SOON, RIGHT? WELL, NO, BUT I MEAN, EVEN IF IT'S 5 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OR 10 YEARS OR 7 YEARS FROM NOW, WHO KNOWS? I MEAN, I KNOW.

I KNOW THAT AT LEAST I BELIEVE THAT OUR CURRENT AND NEW CITY MANAGER IS IN, SAY, 5 YEARS, HE WOULD BE INVESTED WITH THIS 30 YEAR, WOULDN'T HE? CITY MANAGER.

IN WHICH CASE, OFTEN PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO CHANGE JOBS OR RETIRE OR WHATEVER.

OKAY. I COUNT TWO ONE WITH TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVEN'T WEIGHED IN.

YEAH, I FEEL THE SAME WAY, BUT I'M RELUCTANT TO FORCE ANYONE TO STEP INTO THIS UNTIL THEY'RE READY.

I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS.

WELL, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM CURRENTLY, BUT I THINK THAT OUR ATTORNEY HAS PREPARED THE DOCUMENT, AND I THINK WE SHOULD JUST PUT SEVEN MILE RADIUS, WHICH BASICALLY GIVES A LARGER SCOPE, BECAUSE IF IN THE FUTURE, LOOKING IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST LOOK AT NOW THAT IF WE COME ACROSS THIS AGAIN OR THE NEXT COMMISSION, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN 5 YEARS OR WHATEVER, THAT THEY HAVE A WINDOW AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOT MOVE IF, SAY, THESE SAME APPLICANTS APPLIED 5 YEARS FROM NOW AND THEY ALREADY ARE SETTLED IN THEIR HOMES, THEY MIGHT MEET THAT SEVEN MILE RADIUS AND DON'T HAVE TO RELOCATE TO SEEK POSITIONS OR ANYONE THAT WORKS HERE IN THE CITY.

IF THE CITY POLICY STAYS THE SAME FROM HIRING WITHIN, THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR LIMITATIONS ARE.

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I THINK JUST ABOUT THE CORE OF THE CITY IS A SEVEN MILE RADIUS GETTING ALL THE WAY OUT WEST, GOING ALL THE WAY NORTH OF TOWN, GOING ALL THE WAY WEST OF TOWN. THAT WILL GIVE US A WINDOW OF THEM BEING ABLE TO STAY CURRENTLY IN THEIR HOMES AND STILL BE EFFECTIVE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD.

I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE, AND THAT IS THAT WE WE REQUIRE THE CITY MANAGER TO LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS, EXCEPT BY EXCEPTION WITHIN THE SEVEN AND A HALF MILE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE NEXT TIME WE HIRE SOMEBODY, WHETHER IT'S 5 YEARS OR 20 YEARS, IT'LL BE A COMMISSION WHO CAN DECIDE DIFFERENTLY ANYWAY.

BUT I THINK I AGREE WITH THE SPEAKER THAT IT SENDS A MESSAGE THAT WE WANT SOMEONE LIVING WITH US IN THE CITY TO MANAGE THE CITY.

I THINK IT IS. I AGREE IT'S IMPORTANT.

SO WHAT IS YOUR ALTERNATIVE AGAIN? STATE YOUR ALTERNATIVE TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE, TO SAY TO LIVE INSIDE THE CITY, BUT MUST RESIDE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, EXCEPT BY EXCEPTION, WITHIN SEVEN AND A HALF MILES.

MAY I SUGGEST THE WORD APPROVAL OF THE CITY COMMISSION INSTEAD OF EXCEPTION? IF THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD IDEA AND THEN ALSO, I FEEL LIKE AND I HAVE LEARNED A LOT FROM THIS DISCUSSION THAT THE LANGUAGE WITHIN ONE MONTH OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF ASSUMING OFFICE IS NOT GENEROUS.

WELL, AND AGAIN, RESPECTFULLY TO THE CITY MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER, THE PURPOSE OF THE EXERCISE WAS NOT WITHIN ONE MONTH OF BEING SELECTED, BUT WITHIN ONE MONTH OF ACTUALLY STARTING TO BE ACTING CITY MANAGER.

NOW, IT'S CERTAINLY YOUR CALL IF YOU WANT SOMEONE FROM MICHIGAN TO BE THE CITY MANAGER FOR A YEAR AND WORK REMOTELY.

I JUST I JUST I THANK YOU.

BUT I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS CONSIDERS ALL SCENARIOS AND I WOULD RATHER JUST REMOVE WITHIN ONE MONTH OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF ASSUMING OFFICE AND LEAVE IT UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE FUTURE COMMISSION.

SO LEAVE THE LANGUAGE AS IS WITH THE CHANGED LANGUAGE FROM SEVEN MILES.

CORRECT INSTEAD OF FIVE TO SEVEN MILES AND THEN WITH COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD'S AMENDMENT.

YES. SO IT WOULD READ MUST RESIGN WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS EXCEPT BY COMMISSION APPROVAL MAY RESIDE WITHIN SEVEN MILES OF THE CITY LIMITS.

AND THEN THE REMAINING CHANGE AS WAS PRESENTED.

OF THE CITY HALL, NOT THE CITY LIMITS OF CITY HALL.

YES. YES AS IT READS, IT READS CITY HALL.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT IS YOUR MOTION, MR. SPRINGFIELD. SO MOVED.

ALL RIGHT. SO MOVED.

AND A SECOND, I WILL SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE.

OPPOSED. HOLD ON.

I DID HAVE TO READ IT.

I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE.

I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF.

LET'S READ IT. ALL RIGHT.

LET ME READ THE SHORT TITLE.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-15, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA AMENDING ARTICLE 4, DIVISION 4, SECTION 4.10 OF THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, CLARIFYING RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS FOR CITY MANAGER.

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ALL RIGHT. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

JIM SPRINGFIELD. YES.

NANCY SIKES-KLINE.

YES. ROXANNE HORVATH YES.

CYNTHIA GARRIS. YES.

BARBARA BLONDER. YES.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD WORK.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, EACH ONE OF YOU, FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION ON THAT MATTER.

IT WAS IMPORTANT. SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD INTO ORDINANCES RESOLUTION.

[9.A. Ordinances - First Reading 9.A.1. Ordinance 2023-16: Updates to Chapter 28 of the zoning code regarding food truck definitions, locations and supplementary regulations. (A. Skinner, Director Planning and Building)]

WE HAVE ORDINANCE 2023-16 UPDATES TO CHAPTER 28 OF THE ZONING CODE REGARDING FOOD TRUCK DEFINITIONS, LOCATIONS AND SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS.

MS. SKINNER GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS AMY SKINNER.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

THIS ITEM IS THE INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-16, WHICH UPDATES THE ZONING CODE RELATED TO FOOD TRUCKS.

THE STATE OF FLORIDA PASSED LEGISLATION PREEMPTING THE CITY'S ABILITY TO REGULATE MOBILE FOOD DISPENSING VEHICLES, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS FOOD TRUCKS. HOWEVER, THE CITY DOES RETAIN SOME AUTHORITY.

THIS ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES RELEVANT DEFINITIONS ZONING DISTRICT LOCATIONS WHERE FOOD TRUCKS AND FOOD COURTS WOULD BE ALLOWED AS A PERMITTED

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USE OR A PERMITTED USE BY EXCEPTION AND RELATED SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS.

IN PRACTICE, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE PRESENTS THE REGULATORY POLICIES THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY ENFORCES THROUGH THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT PROCESS AND THE PUBLIC WORKS REVIEW PROCESS.

THE PCB REVIEWED THIS ORDINANCE ON APRIL 25TH AND WITH TWO RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU RECOMMENDED ADOPTION BY THE CITY COMMISSION.

SO THIS IS A FIRST READING AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

SO WE HAVE A FIRST READING.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? IT'S IT SOUNDS LIKE HOUSEKEEPING A LOT.

YES. THIS IS THIS IS HOUSEKEEPING.

NOT REALLY A CHOICE. CLARIFIES CERTAIN THINGS.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BRING EVERYTHING IN LINE WITH WHAT THE STATE'S DOING.

ALL RIGHT. OH, COMMISSIONER BLONDER.

THANK YOU. MS. SKINNER, COULD YOU REMIND ME WHAT WAS THE VOTE ON THE PCB? I BELIEVE IT WAS UNANIMOUS.

THEY MADE TWO CHANGES.

THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE INCLUDED ALLOWING FOOD TRUCKS AS A PERMITTED USE IN THE MARINE USE DISTRICT.

BUT THROUGH THE CONVERSATION, WE REALIZED THAT INCLUDES THE LIGHTHOUSE AREA AS WELL.

SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MOVED THAT TO A USE BY EXCEPTION.

SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DO A FOOD TRUCK IN THE LIGHTHOUSE AREA THAT IS ZONED MUD, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

AND THEY ALSO, IN THE SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS, ADJUSTED THE TIME FRAMES FOR WHEN FOOD TRUCKS CAN OPERATE TO AT THE LATEST 10:00 PM.

YES, FOR BOTH OF THOSE. THANK YOU.

OKAY. SO IT WAS UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A FIRST READING AND WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO SEND IT IF THIS IS READY TO GO TO PUBLIC HEARING AND A SECOND READING.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

OKAY. I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2023-16 AND MOVE TO SECOND READING AND READ BY TITLE ONLY.

SECOND. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-16.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA AMENDING CHAPTER 28, SECTION 28-2 TO PROVIDE DEFINITIONS FOR MOBILE FOOD DISPENSING VEHICLE, MOBILE FOOD VENDOR, MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENT, MOBILE FOOD TRUCK COURT AND COMMISSARY.

AMENDING SECTIONS 28-165, 28-167, 28-206, 28-207, 28-208, 28-209 AND 28-312 TO ALLOW FOR MOBILE FOOD DISPENSING VEHICLES AS A PERMITTED USE.

AMENDING SECTION AMENDING CODE SECTION 28-207, 28-208, 28-209 AND 28-312 TO ALLOW FOR MOBILE FOOD COURTS AS A PERMITTED USE.

AMENDING CODE SECTION 28-163, 28-164, 28-226, 28-246 AND 28-311 TO ALLOW FOR MOBILE FOOD DISPENSING VEHICLE AS A PERMITTED USE BY EXCEPTION.

AMENDING CODE SECTION 28-226 AND 28-246 TO ALLOW FOR MOBILE FOOD TRUCK COURTS AS A PERMITTED USE BY EXCEPTION. AMENDING CODE SECTION 28-347 TO PROVIDE FOR SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS OF MOBILE FOOD DISPENSING VEHICLES AND MOBILE FOOD TRUCK COURTS. PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ALL RIGHT, MADAM. I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WAS A SHORT TITLE.

WELL, THOSE WERE OBVIOUSLY EXTENSIVE CHANGES [INAUDIBLE] NEEDED.

ALL THOSE. I'M SORRY, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

ROXANNE HORVATH? YES.

BARBARA BLONDER? YES.

CYNTHIA GARRIS? YES. JIM SPRINGFIELD.

YES. NANCY SIKES-KLINE? YES. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO ORDINANCE 20.

THANK YOU, MISS SKINNER.

2023-17, MISS LOPEZ.

[9.A.2. Ordinance 2023-17: Adding statutory language concerning requirements regarding disability in the line of duty for firefighters diagnosed with cancer. (I. Lopez, City Attorney)]

YES. THIS ORDINANCE IS A CLEANUP FROM A STATUTORY CHANGE DATING BACK TO 2019 THAT ESSENTIALLY STATED THAT FIREFIGHTERS WHO ARE UNFORTUNATELY DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER WILL BE DEEMED TO HAVE THAT ILLNESS IN THE LINE OF DUTY.

SO THAT WAS A STATUTORY CHANGE IN 2019.

IT MADE IT MANDATORY FOR ALL OF US TO DO SO.

OUR CODE DOES NOT EXPLICITLY REFERENCE THAT.

SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A CLEANUP ORDINANCE TO EXPLICITLY REFERENCE THAT STATUTE.

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SO BEFORE YOU ORDINANCE 2023-17 FOR FIRST READING.

ALL RIGHT? YEP. MOVE TO APPROVE FIRST READING OF 2023-17.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

ANY COMMENTS, DEBATE, DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. YOU WANT ME TO READ? YES, WE DO.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-17, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 20, ARTICLE 5, SECTION 20-198 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE TO REFERENCE STATE STATUTE.

SECTION 112.1816 CONCERNING REQUIREMENTS REGARDING DISABILITY IN THE LINE OF DUTY FOR FIREFIGHTERS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

JIM SPRINGFIELD? YES. ROXANNE HORVATH? YES. CYNTHIA GARRIS? YES. BARBARA BLONDER? YES. NANCY SIKES-KLINE? YES. AND MS. LOPEZ. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR KEEPING US UPDATED ON THOSE CHANGES.

AND I KNOW THERE'LL BE MORE COMING FOR NEXT YEAR, SO WE'LL BE STATE.

FLORIDA STATE LEGISLATURE KEEPS YOU BUSY AND US.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO RESOLUTIONS.

[9.B.1. Resolution 2023-10: Authorizes the City to issue tax exempt bonds to refund Capital Improvement Refunding Revenue Bonds. (M. Simpson, Director Finance)]

RESOLUTION 2023-10 MR. SIMPSON AUTHORIZES THE CITY TO ISSUE TAX EXEMPT BONDS TO REFUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT REFUNDING REVENUE BONDS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

MARK SIMPSON, FINANCE DIRECTOR.

BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS RESOLUTION 2023-10, WHICH AUTHORIZES THE CITY TO ISSUE TAX EXEMPT BONDS TO REFUND THE 2013 ISSUE. THE 2013 ISSUE REFUNDED A PORTION OF A 2004 ISSUE WHICH CONTAINS VIC PARKING, GARAGE IMPROVEMENTS, HYPOLITUS STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND THE ROOF AT CITY HALL.

THERE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY $15 MILLION OF PRINCIPAL OUTSTANDING AS OF OCTOBER 1ST 2023 AND WE WILL PAY A SMALL PREMIUM TO LOWER OUR INTEREST RATE AND ISSUE APPROXIMATELY $15.5 MILLION WORTH OF BONDS.

PRELIMINARY NUMBERS INDICATE THAT THE PRICE OF THE BONDS WILL BE $102 TO $103.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE ARE NOT EXTENDING THE LIFE OF THE 2013 DEBT.

A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU REFUND THESE THINGS, YOU'RE JUST EXTENDING DEBT AND THIS IS NOT THE CASE.

THE AVERAGE COUPON OF THE BOND ISSUE IS PROJECTED TO BE 3.84% AND WITH A DURATION OF 7.9 YEARS, THE TOTAL SAVINGS ARE ROUGHLY $2.4 MILLION, WITH A NET PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS OF $1.8 MILLION, WHICH DISCOUNTS THAT $2.4.

BACK TO TODAY'S VALUE.

WE HAVE OUR BOND COUNSEL HERE THIS EVENING, MR. DWAYNE DRAPER, AS WELL AS OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, MR. JAY GLOVER, TO HELP ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING A REFUNDING WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY REFINANCING.

SO I'LL DO MY BEST WITH WITH THE EASY ONES, BUT I'VE GOT THE BIG GUNS HERE WITH ME IF YOU NEED THEM.

OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A WONDERFUL IDEA.

YEAH, IT ABSOLUTELY IS VERY NICE.

WE WOULD SAVE $1.2 MILLION PLUS.

SO THANK YOU.

IT IS A RESOLUTION.

DO I HEAR A MOTION? HEARING NO MOTION. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023-10.

I'LL SECOND. WE DO NOT HAVE PUBLIC HEARING, I'LL SAY NOPE.

MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

ROXANNE HORVATH. YES.

NANCY SIKES-KLINE.

YES. CYNTHIA GARRIS.

YES. JIM SPRINGFIELD.

YES. BARBARA BLONDER.

YES. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

[9.B.2. Resolution 2023-11: Supplements Authorization Resolution 2023-10. (M. Simpson, Director Finance)]

RESOLUTION 2023-11 SUPPLEMENTS.

AUTHORIZATION RESOLUTION 2023-10.

YES, WE NEED TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE RESOLUTIONS WITH THIS REFUNDING.

2023-11 IS A COMPANION TO 2023-10 AND ACTS AS A SUPPLEMENT.

SPECIFICALLY, THIS AUTHORIZES A COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS FOR THESE BONDS.

IT DELEGATES THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE NOTICE OF SALE.

IT APPROVES THE FORM OF THE PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT.

IT APPOINTS A PAYING AGENT AND A REGISTRAR AGREEMENT.

IT APPOINTS THE ESCROW HOLDER, AND IT AUTHORIZES CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE DOCUMENTS AND TO TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATING TO THESE BONDS AS THINGS UNFOLD IN REAL TIME.

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IF THERE ARE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION, I REALIZE IT IS QUITE VOLUMINOUS.

ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR EXPERTS IN THE AUDIENCE TO HELP WITH THOSE QUESTIONS.

SO BASICALLY, THIS RESOLUTION ALLOWS US TO IMPLEMENT.

UM. THE BOND.

OH, WE HAVE OUR HAND UP.

FINGER. FINGER.

DON'T WANT TO BE TOO SORRY.

SURE. MR. SIMPSON, THANK YOU.

AND I APPRECIATE THE OUR THE FOLKS WHO ARE BACKING YOU UP AND THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED US WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION AND THE RATIONALE FOR IT.

WHAT I'M WONDERING IS WHAT THE THE HOW MUCH TIME IT WILL TAKE TO IMPLEMENT THIS.

I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL WITH THE POSSIBLE DEFAULT AND WHETHER THAT MIGHT AFFECT OUR BOND.

I HAD THE SAME CONCERN.

AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS AN ADVANCED REFUNDING WHERE WE WILL CLOSE ON IT'S PROJECTED TO BE JULY 13TH.

SO WE'LL GET IT CLOSED.

WE WILL GET OUR BONDS REFUNDED AND PUT IN ESCROW TO PAY THEM OFF ON OCTOBER 1ST.

SO AT THIS TIME, YES, OUR BOND COUNSEL AND OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR DO KEEP THEIR EYES ON WASHINGTON, AND THIS GIVES US THE ABILITY TO ACT ACCORDINGLY WITHOUT HAVING TO CONVENE THE COMMISSION.

EXCELLENT. MR. SPRINGFIELD. YEAH. I REMEMBER IN MY PAST LIFE YOU ACTUALLY PICKED THE DAY OF THE WEEK SOMETIMES TO WHEN YOU ISSUE THE BONDS.

ONE OF MY CURIOUS QUESTIONS WAS IN THE VERY FIRST RESOLUTION, THEY MENTIONED THE NAME OF THE FINANCIAL ADVISER, AND THIS ONE THEY DON'T, BUT THEY REFERENCE BECAUSE HE'S HANDLING THE ELECTRONIC BIDS.

WHY DON'T WE IDENTIFY THE PERSON? WE HAVE IT JUST LISTED AS DIRECT DIRECTION OF THE FINANCIAL ADVISER.

I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THEM.

THE ORDINANCE OR THE RESOLUTION CAME FROM THEM.

BUT JAY GLOVER IS OUR FINANCIAL ADVISER, AND THIS IS MR. DRAPER AND MR. GLOVER. GOOD EVENING, DWAYNE.

YEAH, GOOD EVENING. DUANE DRAPER AT BRYANT, MILLER AND OLIVE.

AND WE'VE BEEN PRIVILEGED TO BE YOUR BOND COUNSEL SINCE THE LATE 1990S, SO IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

WITH REGARD TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CLOSE THE BOND ISSUE UNTIL WITHIN 90 DAYS OF THE OCTOBER 1ST.

SO WE'RE GETTING EVERYTHING READY.

AND JAY WILL HELP AS THE FINANCIAL ADVISER WILL HELP FIGURE OUT HOW TO BEST IMPLEMENT WITHIN THAT IRS LIMITATION.

THE SECOND SUPPLEMENTAL RESOLUTION, WHICH YOU'RE CONSIDERING NOW, IT KICKS BACK TO THE FIRST RESOLUTION YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED FOR CERTAIN DEFINED TERMS. SO WE JUST DIDN'T REDEFINE THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR, WHICH IS PFM AND JAY GLOVER IN THE SECOND RESOLUTION.

BUT HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE FINANCIAL MARKETS.

ALL RIGHT, MR. SPRINGFIELD, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? NO, NOT REALLY. BUT I'M SURE IT'S JUST A TECHNICAL THING, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THESE ARE TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE DOCUMENTS AND IF THE ELECTRONIC BIDS GO POORLY, I MEAN, I'M THIS MAY BE A MUTE QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW. IT JUST SEEMED ODD THAT THE PERSONS WEREN'T WEREN'T LISTED.

YEAH. AGAIN, JAY GLOVER FROM PFM FINANCIAL ADVISORS, WE ARE THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR.

MAYOR, COMMISSION MEMBERS.

I THINK AS WAS MENTIONED, THE SECOND RESOLUTION IS A SUPPLEMENT TO THAT INITIAL MASTER RESOLUTION.

SO WE DON'T REDEFINE THE TERMS. BUT YOU DO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY AND THE NOTICE OF SALE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE APPENDICES TO THAT SECOND RESOLUTION TO REJECT BIDS IF THEY'RE NOT SUFFICIENT TO MEET THE PARAMETERS THAT YOU ALL ARE APPROVING TODAY.

THE MOST IMPORTANT OF WHICH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IS A MINIMUM NET PRESENT VALUE DEBT SERVICE SAVINGS LEVEL.

SO IN SOME UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCE, IF THE MARKETS WERE TO DETERIORATE, WE DID TAKE BIDS , THEY DIDN'T MEET OUR SAVINGS PARAMETER.

WE WOULD REJECT ALL THOSE BIDS AND WAIT FOR ANOTHER DAY.

I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN.

OBVIOUSLY, AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, WE'RE WELL ABOVE THE SAVINGS PARAMETER THAT IS SET IN THE RESOLUTION.

ALSO OPTIMISTIC THAT MARKETS MIGHT BE RELATIVELY STABLE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, SEVERAL WEEKS.

THE FED DID MEET LAST WEEK AND RAISED RATES 25 BASIS POINTS.

I THINK WE'RE ALL HOPEFUL THAT'S THE LAST RATE INCREASE.

BUT AGAIN, WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE MARKETS AND RECOMMEND THE EXACT DAY TO GO IN AND ACCEPT THOSE COMPETITIVE BIDS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THAT 90 DAY WINDOW THAT WE HAVE.

SO THE HOPE IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE MARKET IN EARLY JUNE AND THEN ACTUALLY CLOSING IN EARLY JULY, WHICH WAS WITHIN THAT 90 DAY WINDOW.

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I FEEL SATISFIED.

YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. FINAL COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION 2023-11.

I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023-11.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. ANY FINAL DEBATE QUESTIONS? MS. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

JIM SPRINGFIELD. YES.

ROXANNE HORVATH YES.

CYNTHIA GARRIS YES.

BARBARA BLONDER YES.

NANCY SIKES-KLINE YES.

AGAIN, THANK YOU.

SO ON TO ITEM TEN B.

[10.B. Review and discussion of the City's Annual Comprehensive Financial Report for fiscal year ended September 20, 2022. (M. Simpson, Director Finance)]

MR. SIMPSON, YOU ARE ON DECK AGAIN FOR REVIEW.

A DISCUSSION OF THE CITY'S ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 2022.

THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN, MARK SIMPSON, FINANCE DIRECTOR.

AND I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT THE CULMINATION OF FISCAL YEAR 2022, WHICH IS OUR ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT.

I TRUST THAT YOU HAVE ALL READ THIS 200 PAGE DOCUMENT COVER TO COVER AND THAT WE HAVE GONE OVER THINGS WHEN WE'VE MET PRIOR TO TONIGHT.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS AND THEN TAKE QUESTIONS.

AND IF I NEED TO, WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS IN MORE DETAIL AT OUR WORKSHOP.

THAT'S COMING UP ON THE 22ND.

THERE ARE TWO HOURS DEDICATED ON THAT DAY TO THE BUDGET AND OUR FINANCIAL CONDITION.

SO I'M GOING TO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS AND THEN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

PAGES 1 THROUGH 16 ARE A FAIRLY COMPREHENSIVE LETTER OF TRANSMITTAL PENNED BY THE CITY MANAGER AND MYSELF THAT JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS THEY RELATE TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

PAGE 31 IS THE ACTUAL AUDIT LETTER OR OPINION LETTER.

THAT IS WHAT WE PAY THE CPA FIRM FOR.

OUR INDEPENDENT AUDITORS RENDERED AN UNMODIFIED OPINION, WHICH MEANS THESE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE DEEMED FREE OF MATERIAL MISSTATEMENT, WHICH IS GOOD.

THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.

THE MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS BEGINS ON PAGE 37 AND PUTS ALL THE NUMBERS INTO VERBAL CONTEXT FOR YOU AND OTHER END USERS OF THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS MEAN.

IT IS A LOT OF NUMBERS TO DIGEST.

JUST FOR THE YEAR, THE CITY INCREASED ITS NET POSITION OR EQUITY BY $27,575,000.

THIS IS THE CITY AS THE WHOLE OF WHICH $11.3 MILLION WAS ATTRIBUTED TO GOVERNMENT ACTIVITIES AND $6.2, $16.2 MILLION WAS ATTRIBUTED TO BUSINESS TYPE ACTIVITIES.

THE ACTUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THEMSELVES ARE CONTAINED NEXT.

AND THOSE CONSIST OF THE GOVERNMENT WIDE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS WELL AS INDIVIDUAL FUND FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR ALL OF OUR VARIOUS FUNDS, INCLUDING OUR PENSIONS.

THESE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY FOOTNOTE DISCLOSURES MANDATED BY GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES, AS WELL AS THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION FOR US TO WIN THE DISTINGUISHED AWARD FOR OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

AFTER THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE REQUIRED SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS RSI.

THIS INCLUDES SOME GRANT INFORMATION AND DETAILED HISTORY OF OF SOME KEY PENSION INFORMATION AS WELL.

AND AFTER THAT IS THE STATISTICAL SECTION WHICH BEGINS ON PAGE 141.

IT'S A TREMENDOUS WEALTH OF USEFUL INFORMATION FOR YOU AND OTHER USERS OF THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DATA IN THERE TO ABSORB. AND FINALLY IS THE COMPLIANCE SECTION.

AND THAT CONTAINS ADDITIONAL LETTERS FROM OUR AUDITORS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THINGS LIKE GRANT COMPLIANCE, INTERNAL CONTROLS, AND ONCE AGAIN, TO ACHIEVE THE CERTIFICATE OF EXCELLENCE FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.

AS I STATED, THIS DOCUMENT IS COMPREHENSIVE BY ITS TITLE.

SO RATHER THAN GET INTO ALL THE DETAILS, I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME OR TAKE REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO BE PRESENTED IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

I CAN GO OVER EACH FUND WITH YOU IN DETAIL THIS EVENING OR IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

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IT'S AT THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION.

I CAN GET AS DETAILED AS YOU LIKE OR WHAT WE NEED TO DO TONIGHT IS SIMPLY ACCEPT THESE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS SO THAT I CAN FORWARD THEM ON TO THE STATE AUDITOR GENERAL'S OFFICE.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S BEGIN.

DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? WE'RE HERE TO ACCEPT TONIGHT.

I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE DID MEET AND RECOMMEND IT RECOMMENDED SENDING TO YOU. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S HERE.

WE DID HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS. I THINK THERE WERE JUST SOME NOTES AND RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING FORWARD.

ONE IS KIND OF A WARNING RECOMMENDATION ABOUT BEING AWARE OF CYBER, THE NEED FOR CYBER SECURITY, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT MOVING FORWARD AS WE DO.

WE JUST SAW THE ATTACK ON THE CITY OF DALLAS THIS LAST WEEK AND WHICH WAS QUITE DEBILITATING FOR THEM.

SO WE DO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVEN'T BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT AND BEING AWARE OF IT AND KEEPING UP WITH IT, SO AND THEN ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION WE HAD WAS TO BEGIN THINKING ABOUT INTERNAL AUDITS IN THE FUTURE, WHICH MAY BE POSE A CHALLENGE TO US.

SINCE IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND THE FIRMS THAT DO THAT SORT OF THING.

BUT, UM, MR. SIMPSON'S DEDICATING HIS LIFE TO FINDING US ONE AS WE MOVE.

THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

YES, IT HAS. AND THE PROFESSION AS A WHOLE HAS BEEN OVERTAXED, NO PUN INTENDED, WORKING ON STIMULUS AND OTHER ITEMS. SO WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE TO PERFORM THE INTERNAL AUDIT FUNCTION.

SO WE HAVE SOMEONE ON MY TEAM THAT IS GOING OUT AND DOING INTERNAL AUDITS AND DOCUMENTING THOSE AUDITS.

HOWEVER, IN A PERFECT WORLD, WE WOULD EMPLOY A SEPARATE FIRM OR INDIVIDUAL THAT WOULD REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND NOT ME, BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THEY WOULD BE AUDITING ME AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE THAT EXTRA LAYER OF SECURITY, JUST LIKE WE HAVE THE AUDIT COMMITTEE BEFORE I BRING IT TO YOU. IT ACTUALLY HELPS ME.

SO I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR AN INTERNAL AUDITOR.

I THINK IT DOES SERVE A VALUABLE PURPOSE.

EXCELLENT. GOOD IDEA.

ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR.

WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER BLONDER.

OKAY. I HAVE I HAVE QUITE A FEW COMMENTS, BUT THEY'RE ALL BRIEF.

BUT I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT I REALLY HAVE TO QUESTION MY SANITY SOMETIMES IN THAT I REALLY ENJOY THIS DOCUMENT. OKAY.

I READ IT COVER TO COVER LITERALLY AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU SPEND SITTING DOWN ORIENTING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, I'M ASSUMING.

AND AND I THINK MAYBE QUESTIONING MY SANITY IS, DO I WOULD I RATHER READ THIS OR STUDENT FINAL EXAM? SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHERE I CAME DOWN ON THIS VERY HAPPILY ON PAGE 3, I NOTE THAT YOU AND YOU CALLED THIS OUT TO ME THAT THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT DEADLINE IS 2026 AND WE'VE GOT $7.7 MILLION IN THERE THAT OR $26 MILLION.

I'M READING IT QUICKLY AGAIN AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT $267.8.

AND WE DO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL $26 MILLION.

BUT THAT'S NOT OURS.

THAT IS THE PASSING IT THROUGH TO US, RIGHT.

OUR RESILIENCY PROJECT.

MY COMMENT IS THAT THIS 2026 DEADLINE PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON STAFF.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THEM MEETING THIS DEADLINE OR DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN.

SECONDLY, ON PAGE 6, WE HAVE THE I THINK IT'S ON PAGE 6, THE EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING AWARD OR NOTIFICATION OR THAT'S ON OBJECTIVE 9, 4.

AND THAT'S YOU, MR. SIMPSON. THAT'S GREG JOHNSON AND THE STAFF IN YOUR OFFICE.

SO THANK YOU FOR GETTING US THERE.

AGAIN, THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

ALSO, THE CIP IS FUNDED BY LOW INTEREST LOANS AND ARPA, WHICH I THINK IS GOOD FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT AND KEEPS IT OUT OF OUR TAX AD VALOREM TAXES.

SO AM I GETTING ALL THAT RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, GREAT.

UM, MOVING ON TO PAGE 58 UNDER MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS.

I'M JUST GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE AND PLEASE STOP ME IF THIS IS THE WRONG TIME TO DO IT.

BUT WE HAD TALKED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT PUTTING $200,000 IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS COMING YEAR FOR CONSERVATION

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LANDS LAND ACQUISITION.

I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY BUMP THAT UP TO $250 FOR OUR DISCUSSION.

SO JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE, THAT GIVES ME DIRECTION FOR THIS NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY. MAY I CONTINUE OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK SOME OTHER PEOPLE? WELL, NO. I THINK WHEN WE GET TO OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP AT OUR MEETING ON THE 22ND, THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE TIME, OKAY? BECAUSE WE WANT ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE IN THE BUDGET AS WELL.

SURE. AND THEN I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS MORE GENERAL.

BUT I WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK BEFORE, BEFORE I FINISH.

OH, GO RIGHT AHEAD. OKAY.

ON PAGES 146 AND 147.

UM, THERE WE GO.

UM. AND THIS IS IN THIS IS MY FAVORITE SECTION, THE STATISTICAL SECTION.

SORRY. YOU MIGHT HAVE A PDF DOCUMENT THAT DOESN'T MATCH UP WITH MY PAGE NUMBER, SO IF YOU'LL GIVE ME THIS HEADING, THIS WOULD BE THE CHANGES IN NET POSITION FOR THE LAST TEN FISCAL YEARS.

THAT'S RIGHT. 146 THAT IS 146 AND 147 OKAY.

OKAY. SO WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

PUN INTENDED. CHANGES IN OUR NET POSITION OVER TEN YEARS ARE REALLY LOOKING FAVORABLE.

WITHOUT A DOUBT. YEAH.

SO I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

I'M NOT CRITICIZING HERE.

REALLY. THESE ARE ALL POSITIVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

THESE ARE OUTSTANDING FINANCIALS.

YEAH, IT'S ALL GOOD NEWS.

AGREED. SO GOOD JOB AGAIN.

ON PAGE 150, OUR CHANGES IN FUND BALANCES.

GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS.

I'M LOOKING AT OVERALL TRENDS OVER TEN YEARS.

WE HAVE INCREASED OUR FUND BALANCES WITHOUT AN INCREASE IN DEBT SERVICE.

AM I RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.

ALSO, COMMENDABLE LOW INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REFINANCE AND LOWER OUR DEBT BURDEN.

FABULOUS. ON PAGES 152 AND 153.

THERE, WHICH IS VALUATIONS AND EXEMPTIONS.

EXEMPTIONS? I'M SORRY.

THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGE IN DIRECT RATE OVER TEN YEARS, EVEN WITH AS MANY UNCERTAINTIES AS WE'VE HAD IN THAT TEN YEAR PERIOD, NOTWITHSTANDING THE PANDEMIC. RIGHT.

GREAT JOB AGAIN, AS I DID LAST YEAR AND I REALLY LIKE LOOKING AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS PAGES BECAUSE IT HELPS ME PROJECT INTO THE FUTURE.

AND WE ARE PROJECTED ON PAGE 165 TO GROW BY 5,000 MORE PEOPLE BY 2027, WHICH IS A 25% INCREASE IN FOUR YEARS.

THAT'S SOBERING.

UM, I'VE JUST GOT TWO MORE.

THREE MORE THINGS. PAGE ONE, 72 AND 176, WITH OUR BUILDING PERMITS AND FULL TIME EMPLOYEES, WE HAVE ISSUED A WHOLE LOT OF BUILDING PERMITS AND HAVEN'T REALLY INCREASED IN ANY SIGNIFICANT WAY.

FULL TIME EMPLOYEES TO MANAGE THAT PROCESS.

IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME OF THE NEW CODE ENFORCEMENT FOLKS FOR THINGS.

OH, TRUE. OKAY. OKAY.

WE DO HAVE A BIG.

THE FOLKS IN PLANNING AND BUILDING HAVE A LOT ON THEIR SHOULDERS.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND WE ARE REQUIRED TO USE THESE BUILDING PERMIT REVENUES FOR ENFORCING THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE.

SO IF WE DO NEED TO INCREASE BY 1 OR 2 FOLKS IN THAT AREA, WE HAVE FUNDS TO DO SO WITHOUT HAVING TO BURDEN THE AD VALOREM TAXPAYER.

SO THAT IS ALSO THAT'S AN OPTION FOR AN UPCOMING BUDGET, CORRECT? GREAT. AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO ACTUALLY INTERVIEWING OUR CANDIDATES FOR CITY MANAGER AS IT PERTAINS TO OUR WORKFORCE.

AND ONE OF THE CANDIDATES IN PARTICULAR BROUGHT FORWARD THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT PENSION REFORM OPTIONS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT TOPIC TO EITHER A BUDGET WORKSHOP OR SOME KIND OF SPECIAL WORKSHOP.

I'M ASKING YOU TO DO THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THIS COMMISSION TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

AND THEN FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY OUTGOING CITY MANAGER AND DIRECTOR OF THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU. THIS IS WONDERFUL.

GREAT WORK. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ON PAGE 31.

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IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT TO YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO DO I HEAR A MOTION? OH, I SEE HERE. THAT IS REALLY JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM.

THAT'S CORRECT. MOTION TO ACCEPT.

A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

SO MOVED.

I'LL SECOND MS. WAS JUST A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE, AYE.

OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. SIMPSON. WE WILL SEE YOU IN SHORT ORDER.

UM. OH.

ITEM TEN C MR.

[10.C. Discussion regarding the use of a QR code to make donations for assisting the homeless. (C. Sakryd, Deputy Director General Services)]

SAKRYD. VERY INTERESTING PROPOSAL DISCUSSION REGARDING REGARDING THE USE OF A QR CODE TO MAKE DONATIONS FOR ASSISTING THE HOMELESS.

AS I RECALL, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AND IS ON OUR TASK LIST.

IS THAT CORRECT? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COMMISSIONER. VICE MAYOR.

COMMISSIONERS. COREY SAKRYD, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE OF GENERAL SERVICES.

TONIGHT, I HAVE TO PRESENT TO YOU A PROPOSAL FOR A SIGN TO HELP WITH OUR HOMELESSNESS.

I'VE SPOKEN WITH STAFF AND WORKING WITH EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS.

WE'VE DEVELOPED THIS SIGN THAT YOU SEE HERE ON HOW WE CAN BETTER HELP OUR HOMELESS AND AND ACTUALLY GET DONATIONS INTO THE AGENCIES THAT CAN PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO HOMELESSNESS.

SO THE TAKING SOME SOME LORD PARDON ME SOME TAKING SOME ADVICE FROM COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF.

WE WERE WORKING TOGETHER AND TO DEVELOP A QR CODE WHERE YOU CAN GO TO A LANDING PAGE THAT WOULD SEND YOU TO SEVERAL AGENCIES OR SEVERAL PROSPECTIVE CHARITIES THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DONATE DIRECTLY AND INSTEAD OF DIRECTLY TO THE INDIVIDUAL ON THE STREETS.

THIS WOULD BETTER APPLY AND ASSIST GETTING THOSE FUNDS TO THE PEOPLE IN NEED.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSIONERS WAS IN THIS QR CODE COULD THERE BE A WAY TO DEVELOP SOME EDUCATIONAL OUTLET OR OTHER OPTION IN WHICH WE CAN PROVIDE MORE ASSISTANCE TO THOSE? SOME STAFF HAD SOME GREAT IDEAS AND ACTUALLY THAT LED TO A GREAT DISCUSSION WITH A PROFESSOR AT FLAGLER COLLEGE ON POSSIBLY EVEN UTILIZING SOME STUDENTS TO DEVELOP THAT CONTENT TO PROVIDE THAT EDUCATION OUTLOOK.

SO THIS SIGN THAT YOU SEE HERE PRESENTED THIS EVENING, HOPEFULLY FOR YOUR APPROVAL WILL IS KIND OF SCALABLE.

SO IT'LL PROVIDE A LANDING PAGE WHERE YOU CAN WORK WITH THE UNITED WAY, WHO WE HAD A MEETING WITH LAST WEEK.

THEY WERE REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE ENERGY AND THE PASSION THAT ACTUALLY SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE STAFF HAD TOWARDS THIS NEW PROJECT.

OF COURSE, THIS IS JUST ONE INITIATIVE AND SEVERAL THAT ARE GOING TO FOLLOW UP AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR YOUR INPUT AND DISCUSSION.

100% AGREE WITH THE QR CODE NEEDS TO HAVE AN FAQ OR WHAT IS IT WE'RE DOING? WHY ARE WE DOING THIS ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

I JUST HAD A QUESTION.

HAVE WE FOUND ANY PLACE THAT ACTUALLY HAS DONE THIS? WE'VE BEEN RESEARCHING.

IT'S FAIRLY COMMON IN THE INDUSTRY, ACTUALLY AT OTHER CITIES.

SO WHAT KINDS OF MONEY DO THEY MAKE? THEY DON'T MAKE VERY MUCH MONEY, GENERALLY SPEAKING.

AND WE'VE HAD A FEW YEARS WE HAD A CAMPAIGN SIMILAR TO THIS THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY GENERATE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.

IT'S REALLY PART IT'S REALLY TO SEND A MESSAGE ON A STRATEGY TO TRY TO KEEP DOWN THE AMOUNT OF HOW LUCRATIVE PANHANDLING ON SAINT GEORGE STREET CAN BE.

BUT IT BY THE WAY, WHEN I SAY NOT MUCH MONEY, YOU GOT TO REMEMBER MY SENSE OF SCALE IS DIFFERENT.

SO FOR ME, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A MATERIAL NUMBER TO THE BUDGET IS WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.

OKAY. BUT IT DOES GIVE BUT EVEN IF YOU ADDED UP ALL THE PANHANDLING CHANGE, IT WOULDN'T BE A MATERIAL BUDGET TO SOLVING HOMELESSNESS.

SO MAYBE I'M NOT A GOOD JUDGE OF THAT.

BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT ARGUMENTS.

ONE ARGUMENT THIS IS THE IDEA IS TO TRY TO GET HOMELESS TO GO TO WHERE THEY ARE SERVICES.

ANOTHER ARGUMENT IS SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST NEED TO GET A CUP OF COFFEE.

BUT THE PREMISE OF OUR PLAN ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS IS TO TRY TO SLOW THE RATE OF PANHANDLING, THE LUCRATIVE NATURE OF IT ON SAINT GEORGE STREET FAIRLY SPECIFICALLY.

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THANK YOU. I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS.

I AGREE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL GENERATE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT WILL SEND A MESSAGE TO VISITORS AND TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE TRYING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY TO TO HELP THE HOMELESS IN SOME WAY.

AND I ALSO THINK IT'S PERSONALLY, I THINK IT'D BE A WHOLE LOT EASIER FOR ME TO GIVE THIS WAY THAN TO PASS A DOZEN PEOPLE ON THE STREET AND ONLY GIVE TO 1 OR 2, YOU KNOW, OR TO NONE.

AND I WOULD TRUST AN ORGANIZATION THAT A CITY WOULD SPONSOR.

SO I. I THINK I'D BE MORE INCLINED TO HELP OUT THIS WAY WHERE I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE HANDING MONEY.

SO I THINK IT'S JUST A POSITIVE THING.

AND I AGREE. I THINK IT FEELS IT FEELS VERY POSITIVE.

IT'S FRAMED POSITIVELY BE THE CHANGE THAT IMPLIES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE WE ALL GENERALLY THINK, I GUESS THE REASON THAT PEOPLE GIVE MONEY IS THEY WANT TO FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE SITUATION.

A LOT OF TIMES IT'S PERHAPS THE PERSON THAT'S MAKING THE DONATION IS IN SOME WAY FEELING PROUD OR GRATEFUL TO BE ABLE TO HELP IN SOME WAY.

SO SOMETIMES IT DOES REFLECT BACK ON THE PERSON GIVING.

SO AND THEY MOTIVATED BY WANTING TO MAKE A CHANGE.

SO I LIKE THE IDEA.

IT KIND OF ZIPS RIGHT TO THE CORE.

BUT MY QUESTIONS ARE THIS.

WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR IMPLEMENTATION IF WE HAVE ONE AND TWO, WHERE WILL THE SIGNS BE IMPLEMENTED? WHAT ARE THE LOCATIONS OF THE SIGNS WE EXPECT TO SEE? IN DISCUSSING IN DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF? WE ORIGINALLY WHAT WE CAN DO WITH APPROVAL WITH THIS IS WE CAN PUT IT IN THE VISITOR'S VISITOR'S INFORMATION CENTER AND ALSO IN THE PARKING GARAGE.

WE WOULD REACH OUT TO PLANNING AND BUILDING TO FIND OUT THE ABILITY TO PLACE THESE SIGNS AT ADDITIONAL MOBILITY HUBS AND THEN GREAT ENTRANCE AND ACCESS TO THE CITY.

SO THAT'S OUR GOAL.

OKAY. AND IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE.

ANY IDEAS THERE? I HOPE TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING IN TWO WEEKS TO HAVE THEM INSIDE THE VISITOR'S INFORMATION CENTER.

OKAY. AND SO AND AND THAT WILL BE SIGNAGE, BUT NOTHING REALLY.

NO LEAVE BEHIND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

MOSTLY A SIGN? THE CONTENT TO BE DEVELOPED DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE PARTNERS WHO, YOU KNOW, AT FLAGLER COLLEGE IF POSSIBLE, BUT WE CAN ALSO DEVELOP SOME ON THE INITIAL LANDING PAGE.

SO ON THE QR CODE IN THE CENTER, YOU'LL GO TO THAT LANDING PAGE.

WE'LL WE'LL DEVELOP A QUICK FAQ AND SOME MORE INFORMATION, BUT THAT'S SCALABLE AND WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO THAT AS WE DEVELOP IT.

ADDITIONALLY, WE'LL HAVE A LINK FOR THE UNITED WAY, AND THE UNITED WAY WILL ACCEPT ALL THE FUNDS AND DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS.

AND OUR ONLY REQUEST, OUR REQUEST TO THEM WAS THAT THESE FUNDS GO TO A HOMELESS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WORKS WITH THE HOMELESS.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S REALLY.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S.

A LITTLE BIT. OH, I'M SORRY.

IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO WHAT WE REALLY WANTED THE FIRST TIME WE TRIED THIS.

SO, YES.

MAYBE I DON'T NEED TO SAY IT, BUT I'LL SAY IT ANYWAYS.

ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO [INAUDIBLE] REVIEW AND APPROVAL WILL FOLLOW OUR RULES SO WE CAN DEPLOY IN THE VIC IMMEDIATELY.

BUT ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE UNDER HARBOR JURISDICTION WILL FOLLOW THAT.

RIGHT. EXCELLENT.

BUT WE HAVE THAT GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE FIRST TOUCH THERE AT THE VIC AND THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO, COMMISSIONERS, ANYONE ELSE? SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO DO YOU NEED A MOTION FROM US OR YOU? JUST A BLESSING.

JUST YOUR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD.

ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, I MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD.

ALL RIGHT. THERE YOU GO.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE, AYE.

OPPOSED. EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO GO FORTH AND DO GOOD.

APPRECIATE IT. APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH SO.

ALL RIGHT. SO MS. CITY ATTORNEY.

[11.A. Legislative update. No Presentation Information Only (K. Traynor, Assistant City Attorney)]

OH, GOD BLESS YOU.

ONLY TO GIVE THE SOMEWHAT GOOD NEWS THAT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL BILL DID NOT PASS, NOR DID THE UNSAFE STRUCTURES BILL, WHICH WAS THAT HISTORIC DEMOLITION BILL. BOTH BILLS DID NOT PASS THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

IT IS A REPRIEVE ONLY BECAUSE THEY WILL BE BACK NEXT YEAR.

AND SO WE WILL DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

THE SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY IMMUNITY BILL ALSO DID NOT PASS, SO THAT WAS HELPFUL TO US AS A SMALL CITY.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE SO CALLED LOCAL ORDINANCE BILL, WHICH CREATES A NEW WAY TO SUE THE CITY AND REQUIRES THAT

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WE DEVELOP A BUSINESS IMPACT STATEMENT EVERY TIME WE PASS AN ORDINANCE THAT DID PASS.

SO IT HASN'T BEEN SIGNED UNLESS IT HAPPENED THIS AFTERNOON AND I'VE BEEN IN HERE, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THE GOVERNOR WILL SIGN IT.

BUT WE WILL SEE.

ALL RIGHT. AND PUBLIC DISCLOSURE FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

YES. AND THAT DID ALSO PASS, UNFORTUNATELY.

SO YOU'LL NOT THIS YEAR.

SO IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

YOU WILL HAVE THE MUCH LONGER FORM AS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO FILL OUT.

SO, YES, I HAD A QUESTION.

BUT DOES THAT MEAN IT GOES INTO EFFECT NEXT YEAR SO WE DON'T FILL OUT THE FORM UNTIL THE FOLLOWING YEAR BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS PAST YEAR? NO, THIS THIS JULY IS YOUR DEADLINE AND YOU DO IT LIKE YOU ALWAYS DID.

SAME OLD FORM, AND THEN THIS BILL BECOMES EFFECTIVE, I BELIEVE, JANUARY 1ST, 2024, WHICH MEANS FOR THAT WHOLE CALENDAR YEAR, JANUARY 1ST, 2024 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2024, IS UNDER THE NEW FORM.

SO THIS JULY, SAME OLD FORM NEXT YEAR, JULY.

WE WON'T FILL THAT FORM OUT UNTIL 25? CORRECT. AND HERE WE GO.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

AND WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T? UM. YEAH.

WHY DO YOU ASK ME THESE QUESTIONS? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, I'LL MAKE THAT RHETORICAL.

IT IS RHETORICAL. YES, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE REQUIRED TO DO SO.

AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND I BELIEVE THE MAYOR MAYBE UNDERSTANDS THIS BETTER, IT IS QUITE AN ELABORATE PROCESS.

ABSOLUTELY. IT'S DETAILS.

IT'S DETAILS. NOTHING WILL BE HIDDEN WHATSOEVER.

NOT THAT THAT'S THE INTENT, AND I DON'T MEAN TO IMPLY THAT, BUT EVERY LITTLE MINUTE DETAIL OF YOUR FINANCES WILL BE OUT THERE. SO AND I DON'T KNOW THE LOGIC BEHIND THAT.

BUT ANYWAY, SO, UM.

MY QUESTION WAS ON SENATE BILL 170, WHICH WAS THE LOCAL ORDINANCES BILL, THE BUSINESS IMPACT STATEMENT.

BILL MS. CITY ATTORNEY. DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT TAKES EFFECT? I'M SORRY, REPEAT THE QUESTION.

SO 170 THE LOCAL ORDINANCE, OCTOBER 1ST, OK TAKES PLACE TAKES EFFECT OCTOBER 1ST OF 2023. CORRECT? OKAY. YOU HAVE A FEW MONTHS LEFT.

ALL RIGHT. GET YOUR THINKING CAPS ON, FOLKS, AND WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME.

SO IF THERE'S THINGS THAT NEED TO BE GOING THROUGH WITH IT, YOU KNOW.

BECAUSE THERE IT IS.

SO. ALL RIGHT. SO.

ITEMS BY CITY CLERK MS. GALAMBOS. I HAVE NOTHING THIS EVENING.

WE ARE SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.

A LITTLE LATE TONIGHT.

ITEMS BY CITY MANAGER.

[13. ITEMS BY CITY MANAGER]

JUST ONE. I WANTED TO LET THE COMMISSIONER KNOW THAT A LITTLE LATER THIS MONTH, JIM PIGGOTT WILL BE RETIRING AFTER 17 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE CITY.

HE WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING TONIGHT, BUT HE IS WATCHING ON TELEVISION.

SO WE WANT TO WISH HIM THE BEST IN HIS RETIREMENT AND THANK HIM FOR ALL THE SERVICES THAT HE'S DONE OVER THE YEARS.

YOU KNOW, ONE THING I CAN SAY THAT IN IN 13 YEARS, WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY TYPE OF PURCHASING IMPROPRIETY, AND THAT GOES TO THE ENTIRE TEAM. AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK JIM FOR ALL OF HIS SERVICE TO THE CITY AND WISH HIM THE BEST.

HE'S GOT A GREAT RETIREMENT PLAN.

RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.

HE'S GOING TO CRUISE LIKE ME, BUT ON BIG SHIPS.

IS HE REALLY? WE WISH HIM ALL THE BEST.

WE REALLY DO. I'LL MISS HIM, WORKED WITH HIM FOR SO MANY YEARS NOW, ALWAYS A SMILING FACE.

SO. THANK YOU, JIM, IF YOU'RE LISTENING.

ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE, MR. CITY MANAGER? I SUPPOSE NOT.

THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA ARE MAYOR ITEMS BY MAYORS AND COMMISSIONER.

[14. ITEMS BY MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS]

AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND STEP FORWARD WITH THE I'LL TRY AND MAKE THIS AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE IT WAS A BIT OF A LONG TRIP TO SPAIN, SO I'VE PREPARED A COUPLE OF THINGS TO SAY.

SO IN APRIL, AS YOU KNOW, MELISSA WISSEL, OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER, WHO, BY THE WAY, IS PRETTY AWESOME AND I TRAVELED TO SPAIN DURING HOLY WEEK AT THE INVITATION OF THE SPANISH MINISTER OF CULTURE AND THE INVITATION OF THE MAYOR OF AVILES.

THE OBJECTIVE OF MY VISIT, OUR VISIT WAS FOUR FOLD.

ONE TO MEET WITH THE SPANISH MINISTER OF CULTURE TO DISCUSS AND TWO WAYS TO FURTHER THE LONG TERM COLLABORATION AND STRENGTHEN OUR CULTURAL CONNECTIONS, PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA OF MARITIME ARCHEOLOGY.

TWO TO MEET THE MAYOR OF AVILES TO DISCUSS THE UPCOMING 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF OUR SISTER CITIES RELATIONSHIP AND IN FOR NEXT

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YEAR, WHICH IS IN NEXT YEAR, 2024, 2024.

I MEANT WHAT IS HOW MANY YEARS? 100. CELEBRATING 100 YEARS AND AND DISCUSS PARTICULARLY THE STUDENT EXCHANGE PROGRAM THAT BOTH OF US SUPPORT STRONGLY.

THREE TO MEET WITH THE POTENTIAL PARTNERS THAT COULD HELP US BUILD FUTURE PROGRAMING FOR THE VISITORS INFORMATION EXHIBIT SPACE AND THEN FOUR TO MEET WITH THE NAO VICTORIA FOUNDATION TO DISCUSS SHIPS VISIT IN THE SUMMER OF 2024.

DURING MY MEETING WITH THE SPANISH MINISTER OF CULTURE AND HIS TEAM, WE WERE IN AGREEMENT THAT A FIRST AT FIRST WE NEED A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY IF WE ARE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY FUTURE MUTUAL PLANS.

WHILE IN SPAIN, I DID AGREE ON OUR BEHALF TO, THERE IS A LETTER IN YOUR PACKAGE, BUT I'LL READ IT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PUBLIC WHO'S INTERESTED TO COLLABORATE BETWEEN THE KINGDOM OF SPAIN AND THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE TO, ONE, CREATE A TEMPORARY EXHIBIT IN SAINT AUGUSTINE CONCERNING SPANISH UNDERWATER CULTURAL HERITAGE IN FLORIDA.

TWO ORGANIZE WORKSHOPS AND TRAINING SESSIONS ABOUT UNDERWATER CULTURAL HERITAGE, BOTH TECHNICALLY AND THEORETICALLY AT THE FLAGLER COLLEGE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE OR OTHER RELATED INSTITUTIONS.

THREE PARTICIPATE WITH EXPERTS IN UNDERWATER CULTURAL HERITAGE FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE IN THE CONGRESS OF UNDERWATER ARCHEOLOGY IN AMERICA, WHICH WILL BE HELD IN 2024 IN SPAIN.

FOUR ADVISE AND COLLABORATE WITH SPANISH TECHNICIANS FROM THE MINISTRY OF CULTURE, AS WELL AS EXPERTS SELECTED BY THIS INSTITUTE FOR APPROPRIATE STUDY, RESEARCH, CONSERVATION AND EXHIBITION OF UNDERWATER CULTURAL HERITAGE.

AND SO THAT IS A VERY SPECIFIC AREA OF INTEREST.

SO. LINK IN THE REPORT.

I'VE GOT SOME OTHER THINGS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HEARING ABOUT EXACTLY WHERE WE WENT, WHICH I PROBABLY SHOULD LIST BECAUSE IT WAS EXTENSIVE. SOME PEOPLE ASK ME, DID YOU HAVE FUN IN SPAIN? AND I'M LIKE, WELL, NO.

I MEAN, I DID ENJOY IT, BUT IT WAS IT WAS WORK.

WE WENT THERE FOR BUSINESS.

AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT.

UM, OKAY. SO WE STARTED IN MALAGA AND VISITED WITH THE PICASSO FOUNDATION MANAGING MANAGER AND HEAD OF CULTURAL PROMOTION.

WE VISITED THE CARMEN THYSSEN MUSEUM AND MET WITH THE MUSEUM MANAGER THERE.

WE VISITED A NEARBY VILLAGE OF RIBERIA.

OKAY, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY IT, BUT I'M NOT LAUGHING.

BUT IT IS IT'S IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE CITY.

AND IT IS A SISTER CITY OF PENSACOLA.

AND IT IS THE TOWN WHERE BERNARDO DE GALVEZ, THE EXPLORER, DID HE WAS FROM. AND APPARENTLY MANY COMMISSIONERS IN THE PAST HAVE VISITED THE SMALL CITY.

AND WE WERE WARMLY GREETED BY THE MAYOR AND SEVERAL OF HIS COMMISSIONERS AND WHO TOOK US TO THEIR MUSEUM THERE.

WE SO THEN WE VISITED.

WE ALSO VISITED THE POMPIDOU IN MALAGA, WHICH IS A MUSEUM, UM, A FABULOUS MUSEUM, VISITED SEVILLE SO THAT WE COULD SPEAK WITH THEM NOW VICTORIA FOUNDATION AND THE SPANISH GALLEON SHIPS AND VISITED THERE VERY RECENTLY, OPENED MUSEUM. IN FACT, IT'D BEEN THE WEEK BEFORE AND WE HELD DISCUSSIONS FOR THEIR VISIT HERE IN 2024, WHICH WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE SHIPS COME AND VISIT TO HELP US CELEBRATE THE 100TH.

THEY'RE VERY POPULAR ON TO CORDOBA AND VISITED THE MOSQUE CATHEDRAL, WHICH THAT'S A DIFFERENT COMPONENT, BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CAMINO AND THE BEGINNING OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, THE CAMINO HERE AND AND ON TO THEIR, UM, AVILES AND TRAVELED TO AVILES.

THERE WAS A LOT OF TRAVEL IN BETWEEN THE KIND OF CRISSCROSSED AROUND.

SO I WAS ABLE TO DO MEET WITH THE MAYOR.

MARIBEL IS A LOVELY LADY.

SHE HAS BEEN HERE.

I MET WITH HER EXECUTIVE STAFF AND HER COMMISSIONERS.

WE WERE WARMLY SO VERY WARMLY WELCOMED BY ALL OF THEM AND A LOT OF MEDIA ATTENTION, I THINK

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SAINT AUGUSTINE IS THE CONNECTION IS MUCH STRONGER FROM THE SPANISH THAN IT IS TO FROM THEM TO US THAN IT IS FOR US TO THEM.

IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO THOSE CULTURAL TIES.

AND I'M ALMOST A LITTLE BIT EMBARRASSED TO SAY THIS, BUT IN MY 14 YEARS AS A AS A COMMISSIONER SERVING, I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO SPAIN.

THIS WAS MY FIRST VISIT.

SO IT WAS A VERY BIG EYE OPENER FOR ME TO SEE HOW DEEPLY THEY CARE ABOUT OUR CONNECTION.

I HAD HEARD IT, BUT UNTIL YOU GO, YOU REALLY CAN'T EXPERIENCE IT.

SO ANYWAY, IN AVILES, WE TALKED SISTER CITIES, WHICH IS VERY CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO THEM.

AND LIKE I SAID, THE STUDENT EXCHANGE IN PARTICULAR.

UM, WE VISITED THE HISTORY MUSEUM THERE BY THE LOCAL HISTORIAN, AND WE'RE ABLE TO SEE THE MATCHING STATUES OF PEDRO MENENDEZ, WHICH IS IN FRONT OF CITY HALL, THE FOUNTAIN, THE MATCHING FOUNTAIN THAT'S AT THE VISITOR'S INFORMATION CENTER AND OF COURSE, THE CONSTITUTION MONUMENT THAT'S IN THE PLAZA, WHICH IS JUST BEAUTIFUL.

AND THEN RETURN TO LIKE I SAID, WE RETURNED TO MADRID, MET WITH THE DIRECTOR GENERAL OF THE CULTURAL HERITAGE.

AND LIKE I SAID, WELL, MAYBE I DIDN'T SAY THIS FOR THE PUBLIC.

THIS WAS A RECIPROCAL VISIT TO A DELEGATION THAT THEY SENT HERE IN FEBRUARY TO US.

SO WHICH KIND OF REALLY KICKED OFF THE US DISCOVERING OUR MUTUAL INTEREST.

SO WE DID DISCUSS MUSEUM EXHIBITS, A CULTURAL RESOURCE EXCHANGE, AND OF COURSE, THE UNDERWATER ARCHEOLOGY PROGRAMING AND EDUCATION.

WE TOOK TOURS OF THE NATIONAL ARCHEOLOGICAL MUSEUM AND SPANISH CULTURAL HERITAGE INSTITUTE THERE IT'S KIND OF A MIND BLOWING EXPERIENCE TO SEE HOW DEDICATED THEY ARE TO PRESERVATION, PRESERVATION AND THEIR CULTURAL HERITAGE AND TO UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF TECHNOLOGY AND INVESTMENT THAT THEY HAVE IN IN THAT AREA.

UM. WITH THAT SAID, I'LL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A COPY OF THE SPEECH BY THE MAYOR OF AVILES.

BUT IT BASICALLY SAYS, WE WANT TO DO THIS STUDENT EXCHANGE PROGRAM.

WE WANT TO DO THE STUDENT EXCHANGE PROGRAM.

WE WANT TO DO THE STUDENT EXCHANGE PROGRAM.

THEY'RE VERY BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S THE YOUTH THAT REALLY CARRY THE MESSAGE FORWARD OF THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR RELATIONSHIPS.

SO WITH WITH THAT SAID, WITH YOUR AGREEMENT, THE NEXT STEP, YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE LITTLE PINKY PROMISE LETTER, SO TO SPEAK, IN YOUR PACKAGE WITH YOUR CONSENT I WOULD LIKE TO GO TAKE THE NEXT STEP AND THAT WOULD BE BEGIN WORKING ON A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN US AND THE KINGDOM OF SPAIN.

AND BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE'S SEVERAL STEPS IN BETWEEN AND IT REQUIRES CONTACTING OUR OWN SECRETARY OF STATE AND THE STATE AND UP TO WASHINGTON, D.C.

AND UP THE CHAIN. SO I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS.

AND IF YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT, THEN I WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT LETTER AND KEEP YOU UPDATED AS WE GO.

AND I WANT TO SAY, I WANT TO MANY, MANY THANKS TO THE CITY MANAGER WHO REALLY HELPED ME THINK THROUGH WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND MADE ARRANGEMENTS AND WHO ORIGINALLY HAD PLANNED TO GO WITH US AND BUT DECLINED SEEING IN ALL GOOD PRUDENCE THAT HE WOULD BE RETIRING AND.

YOU KNOW, SEEMED SEEMED LIKE A GOOD DECISION NOT TO GO, BUT HAS PROMISED THAT HE WILL CONTINUE LIKE HE DID DURING COVID AND A PRETTY LONG PERIOD OF QUIET TIME BETWEEN US AND SPAIN CARRIED THAT ON ON HIS OWN.

ON HIS OWN.

JUST CARRY BASICALLY CARRIED OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH SPAIN IN SO MANY WAYS ON HIS OWN SHOULDERS, IN ADDITION TO, OF COURSE, HIS SISTER CITIES WHICH HAS BEEN TRYING TO AS WELL.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU, JOHN.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAME OUT OKAY, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'RE I THINK THAT WE ARE DEEPLY I AM VERY DEEPLY GRATEFUL FOR YOU KEEPING THOSE DOORS OPEN AND KEEPING THOSE CONNECTIONS FRESH.

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AND I THINK THAT WHEN WE MOVE THROUGH THE 100TH CELEBRATION NEXT YEAR, WE'LL SEE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD STUFF COME THROUGH.

THANK YOU. AND THAT'S IT FOR ME.

THAT'S ENOUGH. SORRY. BUT I DID HAVE I DID FEEL LIKE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF REPORTING OUT.

I'M SORRY. DID I INTERRUPT? I KNOW YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT.

WELL, IT'S ABSOLUTELY THE CASE.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, WE'LL START WITH ROXANNE.

VICE MAYOR. VICE MAYOR.

ENOUGH SAID FOR TONIGHT FOR ONE NIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER GARRIS.

UNFORTUNATELY, I DO HAVE SOME THINGS I NEED TO SAY.

OKAY. I'VE GOTTEN SOME CORRESPONDENCE ABOUT THE BUS STOP NO LONGER BEING AT THE VIC.

APPARENTLY, THE BUS WAS UTILIZED A LOT BY THE DV STUDENTS COMING AND THEIR PARENTS AND SO FORTH.

THAT WAS THE WAY THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO COME HERE TO GET THEIR KIDS WHEN SUMMER WAS OVER.

AND SO THEY'RE MAKING SOME NOISE ABOUT IT.

ALSO, THERE IS SOME SENIORS THAT SAID THAT WHEN THEIR GRANDSON WANTS TO COME FOR THE SUMMER, THEY UTILIZE THAT BUS.

SO I GUESS WE NEED TO FIND OUT SINCE WE TOOK IT FROM THE VIC WHERE IT RELOCATED AND FIND OUT IF IT'S A CONVENIENCE OR WHERE IT'S GOTTEN REROUTED.

SO WE NEED THAT INFORMATION.

I NEED THAT INFORMATION SO I CAN LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE'S STILL A METHOD FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO CATCH THAT BUS TO AND FROM JACKSONVILLE.

A MAN WROTE A LONG LETTER SAYING HE HAD TO CATCH A UBER BECAUSE HE WAS DELAYED SOMEWHERE AND IT COST HIM A FORTUNE CATCHING AN UBER FROM JACKSONVILLE BACK TO SAINT AUGUSTINE BECAUSE WE NO LONGER PROVIDE THAT BUS SERVICE.

SO THEY'RE REALLY WHINING ABOUT THAT.

AND I THINK WE AS THE COMMISSION NEED TO HELP THEM.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS.

AND SO I EVEN HEARD FROM GINA BURRELL SAYING THAT'S HOW SHE WOULD GET TO JACKSONVILLE TO SEE HER GRANDSON.

THERE'S JUST DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONTACTED ME ABOUT THE BUS.

SO WE NEED TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN I SPOKE LAST LAST MEETING ABOUT FLORIDA AVENUE, THE RESIDENTS ON THE WEST SIDE HEARD ME AND THEY THANKED ME FOR MENTIONING THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO PREVENT LOOKING TO SOME METHOD ABOUT THEM BEING CONCERNED ABOUT THAT FLOODING OVER THERE.

AND SO I HOPE THE CITY MANAGER IS STILL LOOKING INTO THAT, ALONG WITH A NEWLY APPOINTED.

SO HE PUT THAT IN HIS CAPABLE HANDS.

IF HE DOESN'T ABLE TO COMPLETE THAT TASK BEFORE HE IS RETIREMENT DATE.

I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW I FEEL LIKE I'M THE PEOPLE'S.

I THINK WE ALL FEEL LIKE WE'RE THE PEOPLE'S COMMISSIONER.

BUT I THINK MY PEOPLE, WHERE I LIVE IN THE WEST SIDE, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN IGNORED FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SO WHEN THEY CONTACT ME AND THEY REACH OUT TO ME, IT IS MY TASK TO HEAR THEM SO THAT THE WEST SIDE HAS A VOICE, FINALLY. SO THAT'S WHY I PROBABLY WILL ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY AT THE END OF THESE MEETINGS, BECAUSE I CAN'T CALL YOU GUYS BECAUSE THE SUNSHINE LAW AND SAY ANYTHING.

SO IT'S MY OBLIGATION TO BRING MY CONCERNS BEFORE THE COMMISSION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LONG NIGHT, I CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE GO HOME KNOWING THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I SHOULD HAVE PUT ON THE TABLE.

THANK YOU. WELL, WE ALL VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER BLONDER.

I'LL BE BRIEF. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FROM, I THANK EVERYBODY IN THE CITY AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMUNITY, BOTH YOU AND MR. REGAN AND OUR OUR LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT WHO WORKED SO HARD TO HELP PROTECT US.

AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE BETTER PREPARED TO MOUNT AN EVEN BIGGER FORCE AGAINST SUCH ATTACKS NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK JOHN REGAN, CITY MANAGER AND ALL THREE OF THE EXCELLENT CANDIDATES FOR MAKING THIS A DIFFICULT PROCESS.

BUT FOR THIS IS A THIS IS ANOTHER CHAPTER IN THE CITY'S HISTORY, AND I WANT TO RECOGNIZE IT AS THAT.

AND I'M PROUD OF HOW WE'VE WE'VE TACKLED IT, ALL OF US.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I, TOO, WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO CITY MANAGER DESIGNEE MR. BIRCHIM. JOB WELL DONE.

OUR CURRENT CITY MANAGER HAS ONE MORE MEETING, SO HE WILL WEAR A PARTY HAT, I'M SURE, AT THE NEXT MEETING.

I WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT THE WATERWORKS BUILDING.

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WHAT A REAL GEM OF A PLACE.

NOT. NOT. NOT JIM.

GEM.

TONIGHT WAS A FREE CONCERT WITH ROMANZA WITH DUELING PIANOS.

AND I WISH I COULD HAVE GONE BECAUSE IT SOUNDED SO FABULOUS.

BUT THE WATERWORKS IS REALLY A PLUS.

I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR SISTER CITY AND I HAD TO I HAD A PROGRESS REPORT HERE.

THAT SISTER CITY IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT'S NOT CONNECTED TO THE CITY.

THEY RAISE THEIR OWN FUNDS AND THEY ARE BACK IN THE STUDENT EXCHANGE BUSINESS.

WE WILL HAVE STUDENTS THIS SUMMER AND WE'RE ANXIOUSLY TRYING TO RECRUIT.

I THINK THE DEADLINE IS OVER NOW, BUT WE REALLY TRY TO RECRUIT.

AND THE PLANS HAVE ALREADY STARTED FOR THE 2024 FOR THE 100TH YEAR THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED GETTING GOING AND MR. MEEKS IS AHEAD OF THAT COMMITTEE.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO PLAN SOMETHING REALLY NICE.

I WOULD LIKE TO AGAIN ASK THAT THE ZORA NEALE HURSTON PARK BE GIVEN SOME ATTENTION AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THAT DONE.

IT'S IT'S KIND OF A BLIGHT OF OUR ENTRANCE INTO THE CITY.

SO SOMEONE COULD.

COULD DO THAT AND WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR ALLOWING US TO READ PROCLAMATIONS.

I APPRECIATE THAT. OH, YEAH, DEFINITELY.

DEFINITELY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

UM, WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.