[00:00:05] RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. [1. CALL TO ORDER] THIS MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. ALL RIGHT, SO I'D LIKE TO WELCOME REVEREND CAROLYN WESTLAKE FROM SHORES UNITED METHODIST CHURCH TO GIVE US OUR INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, LED BY VICE MAYOR ROXANNE HORVATH. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. GRACIOUS GOD, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US HERE AT THIS TIME AND IN THIS PLACE. BE WITH THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE UPON OUR HEARTS AND MINDS. OFFER YOUR HEALING AND COMFORT. BE WITH THE MAYOR, THE COMMISSIONERS, AND ALL WHO GATHER HERE IN OUR HEARTS. WE PLAN OUR COURSE, BUT WE PRAY THAT YOU ESTABLISH OUR STEPS. WE PRAY THAT WE SEEK YOU FOR ADVICE. LET US NOT MAKE DECISIONS BASED UPON WHAT WE KNOW, BUT LET US ACT BASED ON YOUR WISDOM. PLEASE GUIDE US, LORD. WE PLACE THIS MEETING IN YOUR HANDS. WE PLACE OUR HEARTS AND OUR MINDS IN YOUR HANDS SO THAT YOU MAY DIRECT US. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS EVENING WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION AND A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION. AND I WILL INVITE COMMISSIONERS TO JOIN ME IN THE FRONT OF THE ROOM TO READ THE PROCLAMATION FOR EDUCATION AND SHARING DAY. AND THEN WE WILL INVITE. YES, SIR. MAYOR. WE DID. WE HANDLE THE MODIFICATION OF THE AGENDA SO WE CAN, LET'S NOT SKIP THAT. THAT'S IMPORTANT. UM, SO DO WE HAVE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE AGENDA? [2. ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS] YES, MAYOR. COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING. STAFF HAS ONE MODIFICATION UNDER CITY MANAGER COMMENTS. I'D LIKE TO MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT WE CAN DO TO INTERACT WITH THE DOT ON PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS FOR ANASTASIA BOULEVARD IN LIGHT OF THE TRAGEDIES OF THE WEEKEND AND I'D LIKE TO PUT THAT AHEAD OF THE DISCUSSION OR NOTICE OF MY RETIREMENT. OKAY, SO YOU WANT THAT TO BE ITEM 13A AND THE RETIREMENT 13B, CORRECT. OH, AND YOU WILL BE GIVING THAT PRESENTATION. OKAY. CULLUM. ANASTASIA. ANY COMMENTS OR OTHER CHANGES? I WILL TAKE A MOTION. ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA AS IS NOT AS MODIFIED. AND A SECOND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES. IT IS AMENDED. ALL RIGHT, BACK TO THE PROCLAMATIONS. I'M SO EXCITED. SO IF YOU WILL, PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE FRONT OF THE ROOM, AND THEN WE WILL READ THE EDUCATION AND SHARING DAY. [3.A. Proclamation 2023-15: Education & Sharing Day, St. Augustine, FL (N Sikes-Kline, Mayor)] MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE VISITORS? WHO COME WHO ARE COMING TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION. RABBI SHAPIRO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN US IN THE FRONT OF THE ROOM WHILE WE READ IT? YES, SIR. OH. ALL RIGHT. HEY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO STAND. IN THE MIDDLE. COME IN WITH US. YES, SIR. WELCOME. WHEREAS EXCELLENT AND EDUCATION IS VITAL TO THE SUCCESS OF OUR CITY. AND IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, WE SEEK TO INSTILL EACH CHILD, TO INSTILL EACH CHILD IN ADOLESCENT WITH A GOOD EDUCATION. AND. WHEREAS, BY PREPARING OUR STUDENTS FOR THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES OF THE FUTURE, EDUCATION DEVELOPS THE INTELLECT THROUGH LESSONS ON LITERACY, MATH AND SCIENCE. WHEREAS. RABBI. RABBI. RABBI MENACHEM SCHNEERSON OF RIGHTEOUS MEMORY DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO THE BETTERMENT OF MANKIND [00:05:04] AND TIRELESSLY ADVOCATED FOR A BETTER EDUCATION FOR ALL AMERICANS. AND. WHEREAS, THE RABBI TAUGHT THAT SORRY TAUGHT THAT EDUCATION SHOULD NOT BE LIMITED TO THE ACQUISITION OF KNOWLEDGE AND PREPARATION FOR A CAREER, BUT ALSO ON CHARACTER BUILDING WITH EMPHASIS ON THE UNIVERSAL MORAL AND ETHICAL VALUES THAT ARE THE BASIS OF ANY PEACEFUL, CIVILIZED SOCIETY. AND. WHEREAS, THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS HAS ESTABLISHED EDUCATION AND SHARING DAY USA, AND AS AN ANNUAL NATIONAL DAY TO COMMEMORATE THE RABBI'S ACHIEVEMENTS AND THE LESSONS AND THE VISION HE SET FORTH ARE ALL RELEVANT TO US TODAY. I. THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 2ND, 2023, AS EDUCATION AND SHARING DAY IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. AND CALLS UPON EDUCATORS, VOLUNTEERS AND CITIZENS TO REACH OUT TO YOUNG PEOPLE AND WORK TO CREATE A BETTER, BRIGHTER AND MORE HOPEFUL FUTURE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. THAT IS YOURS. THEY SAY A FEW WORDS. SO FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND MAYOR NANCY SIKES-KLINE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND FOR RECOGNIZING THIS SPECIAL DAY THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED BACK IN 1978, BEEN RECOGNIZED BY EVERY PRESIDENT SINCE EACH YEAR. AND SINCE WE'RE COMING UP TO THE JEWISH HOLIDAY OF PASSOVER NEXT WEEK, PASSOVER IS VERY MUCH CONNECTED WITH EDUCATION. ONE OF THE MAIN THEMES OF PASSOVER IS TO TRANSMIT THE VALUES THAT WE RECEIVED FROM OUR PARENTS TO THE NEXT GENERATION AS WELL. AND THE RABBI TAUGHT THAT REALLY ALL OF US ARE EDUCATORS IN SOME WAY. WE ALL HAVE SOME KIND OF INFLUENCE ON SOMEBODY. AND WE SHOULDN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT ME, IT'S WHO AM I TO DO SOMETHING? IN TERMS OF EDUCATION, WE ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO IMPROVE EDUCATION IN TERMS OF NOT JUST INFORMATION, BUT IT SHOULD BE GROUNDED ON VALUES, ON PRINCIPLES, ON DIRECTION, NOT JUST THE HOW THINGS WORK, BUT WHY? WHY ARE WE HERE? WHY DO WE NEED THIS INFORMATION? WE'RE ALL HERE TO FULFILL A DIVINE PURPOSE AND TO MAKE THE WORLD A GODLY PLACE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, RABBI VOGEL. AND WE'LL JUST HAVE A QUICK PICTURE. OKAY, WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION AND WE HAVE MR. [3.B. Certificate of Recognition - St. Johns Housing Partnership (R. Horvath, Commissioner)] BILL LAZARD TO JOIN US TODAY. IT IS A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION TO THE SAINT JOHN'S HOUSING PARTNERSHIP FOR 25 YEARS, SERVING THE COMMUNITY BY CREATING SAFE, CLEAN, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN NORTH FLORIDA. AND IT'S MONDAY, MARCH 27TH, 2023. AND I CANNOT BELIEVE IT'S BEEN 25 YEARS. WE WERE CHILDREN 25 YEARS AGO. I MEAN, I WAS SO LUCKY TO HAVE YOU WORK WITH THE SHIP PROGRAM WHEN I WAS THERE. AND IT'S A JOY. ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE AND HERE FOR US, FOR THE CITY WITH OUR FIX UP PROGRAM AND WE CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH. THANK YOU. THIS IS FOR YOU. AND I WANT TO GIVE THIS OVER TO YOU. COMMENTS. WELL, WE JUST REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE REALIZING HOW IMPORTANT CREATING HOUSING FOR OUR WORKFORCE AND FOR OUR RETIREES ARE. SAINT AUGUSTINE'S A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE. EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME HERE, AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE ROLE THAT YOU ALL ARE PLAYING WITH THIS NEW PIECE OF PROPERTY ON HOLMES BOULEVARD. I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SET SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME. I HOPE WE CAN REALLY FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT BENEFIT OUR WORKFORCE. IT'S AN AMAZING PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO I'M JUST I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT COMES OUT OF IT ALL. AND I'M GLAD YOU ALL ARE IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT. THANK YOU. I'M SO HAPPY TO HEAR IT. [00:10:01] OKAY. POP, POP, POP, POP. THERE WE GO. I KNOW HE HEARD YOU. OKAY. OUR NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND I HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKER [4. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS OR FOR AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING] CARDS AND I WILL CALL THEM IN THE ORDER THAT I RECEIVED THEM GENERALLY. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO FIRST CALL MS. SHELLEY MCINTOSH AND WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MISS VICKIE PEPPER. IF YOU WOULD BE SO INCLINED TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. SHELLEY MCINTOSH 120 WASHINGTON STREET. THANK YOU. BASED ON WHAT WAS SUBMITTED TO NATIONALS JUSTIFYING WHY LINCOLNVILLE. IS HISTORICAL. A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO BE TORN DOWN OR CHANGED TOTALLY. SO WHAT IS THE CITY DOING TO PRESERVE LINCOLNVILLE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS VICKY. PEPPER. FOLLOWED BY MADELINE WISE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS VICKY PEPPER. I LIVE ON HARBOR VISTA CIRCLE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE. AND I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING CARE COMMUNITY ADVOCATES FOR RACIAL EQUITY. WE'RE AN INFORMAL, INDEPENDENT CIVIC ACTION GROUP THAT GREW OUT OF SAINT AUGUSTINE'S ONGOING COMMUNITY CONVERSATION EFFORT. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO APPLAUD THE CITY FOR SPEARHEADING WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE MOST PROMISING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT GOING ON IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY RIGHT NOW AT ITS PROPERTY ON 450 NORTH HOLMES BOULEVARD. I ATTENDED THE CHARRETTE LAST WEEK. I HOPE THAT THE OPEN HOUSE AT THE PROPERTY WILL BE RESCHEDULED SO THE PUBLIC CAN BETTER VISUALIZE THE POTENTIAL OF THIS PROPERTY. THUS FAR, THE CITY SEEMS TO BE PROCEEDING WITH THIS AFFORDABLE OR SHOULD I SAY, ATTAINABLE HOUSING PROJECT IN A TRANSPARENT MANNER AND IS SOLICITING PUBLIC INPUT ALONG THE WAY. THAT APPROACH IS TO BE COMMENDED, BUT AS I SUGGESTED TO OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS LAST WEEK, CARE IS PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW YOU FACTOR PUBLIC INPUT INTO YOUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS AND HOW PUBLIC IDEAS, HOPES AND CONCERNS ACTUALLY AFFECT YOUR ULTIMATE DECISIONS. IN THIS REGARD. GIVEN THAT NONE OF YOU ATTENDED THE CHARRETTE, I ALSO WILL NOTE THAT FROM MY OPTIC ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS SEEM TO BE HEAVILY WEIGHTED TOWARD PRIVATE DEVELOPERS. CARE VERY MUCH LOOKS FORWARD TO SEEING THE REPORT ON PROJECT DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT FROM YOUR CONSULTANTS. SECOND IS THE CITY'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT PROCEEDS. WE HOPE YOU'LL KEEP CARE AND THE REST OF THE PUBLIC FULLY INFORMED CARE IS PREPARED TO ADVOCATE WITH THE COUNTY TO SUPPORT THE CITY IN OBTAINING ANY ZONING VARIANCES OR OTHER LAND USE PLANNING MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO REALIZE THE FULL, AFFORDABLE HOUSING POTENTIAL OF THE CITY'S HOLMES BOULEVARD PROPERTY. JUST LET US KNOW HOW, HOW AND WHEN OUR PUBLIC ADVOCACY CAN SERVE THE INTERESTS OF THE CITY'S PROJECT. THIRD, THANK YOU FOR PUBLICLY RECOGNIZING BILL AZAR AND THE GOOD WORK OF SAINT JOHNS HOUSING PARTNERSHIP TODAY. FOURTH, ONCE AGAIN, I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR HERE, BUT WE STILL NEED A PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY TO PROVIDE NEW TOOLS AND ACCESS TO ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDING THAT WILL INCREASE OUR CAPACITY TO ADDRESS OUR EVER GROWING AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS. THE CITY COMMISSION ALREADY RECOGNIZED THIS WHEN, ON SEPTEMBER 12TH LAST YEAR, YOU UNANIMOUSLY PASSED RESOLUTION 20 2231. AS I ADVISED LAST MONTH CARES NOT GIVING UP ON THE COUNTY. AND THAT SAID, CARE BELIEVES THAT THERE WOULD BE ADVANTAGES FOR ALL JURISDICTIONS IF THE CITY TOOK THE NOMINAL LEAD IN ESTABLISHING THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR THE COUNTY, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS THAT MAYOR SIKES-KLINE WOULD APPOINT APPOINT THE GOVERNING COMMISSIONERS INSTEAD OF GOVERNOR DESANTIS. I SAY NOMINAL LEAD BECAUSE CARE ENVISIONS ESTABLISHING A FAR WOULD BE A COLLABORATIVE PROJECT BETWEEN ALL THREE JURISDICTIONS EMPLOYING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT. PLEASE KEEP OPEN MINDS ON THIS ISSUE SO THAT SAINT JOHNS COUNTY PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY CAN BE ESTABLISHED ON BEHALF OF ALL THE CITIZENS OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND SAINT JOHNS [00:15:04] COUNTY. FINALLY, I MUST RECOGNIZE CITY MANAGER JOHN REGAN'S IMPENDING RETIREMENT WILL BE A GREAT LOSS TO OUR CITY. HOWEVER, AS AN ACTIVE RETIREE MYSELF, I CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF MEANINGFUL VOLUNTEER WORK TO BE DONE LOCALLY TO MAKE SAINT AUGUSTINE AND SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY A BETTER COMMUNITY FOR ALL OF US. AND JOHN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'VE GOT PLANNED AFTER YOUR RETIREMENT, BUT UNLESS YOU PLAN TO PURSUE ALTERNATIVE FULL TIME EMPLOYMENT, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER JOINING CARE OR SOME OTHER VOLUNTEER EFFORT THAT SERVES THE PUBLIC. YOUR BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE WOULD BE INVALUABLE TO CARE OR ANY NUMBER OF OUR LOCAL NGOS DOING GREAT WORK ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS PEPPER. MADELINE WISE, FOLLOWED BY JILL WISE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MADELINE WISE, 140 WASHINGTON STREET, CO-CHAIR OF THE LINCOLNVILLE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION AND RESTORATION SOCIETY, PRESENTLY BOARD MEMBER OF THE LCRA. UH, I'M UP HERE, FIRST OF ALL. ONE OF OUR MEMBERS. WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT HER WITH PROMOTING AND PUTTING ON THE JUNETEENTH FESTIVAL. SHE HAD A TAD BIT OF PUSHBACK FROM THE CITY, SO WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT HER, FIRST AND FOREMOST. SECOND THING IS, WE'RE HERE AS THE PRESS, BECAUSE OUR MAIN MISSION IS ABOUT THE HISTORY AND PRESERVATION OF LINCOLNVILLE. IT HAS BEEN A LOT OF STUFF ON THE BOOKS ABOUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IN LINCOLNVILLE. BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN A WHOLE LOT DONE. ONE OTHER THING, I JUST DISCOVERED THIS, BUT I HAVE TO GET THIS CLARIFICATION FROM THE CITY MARKERS THAT ARE IN LINCOLNVILLE. A REALTOR CALLED ME AND ASKED ME THIS WEEK IF SOMEBODY BROUGHT THAT PROPERTY, COULD THEY TAKE THOSE MARKERS DOWN? I CALLED A YOUNG LADY, GWEN DUNCAN, AND SHE SAID THEY COULD. AND MY QUESTION WAS, WELL, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING THEM UP? AND IF THEY CAN'T, I'LL FIND OUT FROM YOU ALL EVENTUALLY IF THEY CAN. THEN MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE CITY DOING? BECAUSE IF WE ARE TAKING THESE MARKERS DOWN, THEN THAT MEANS THAT'S A PART OF THE HISTORY OF LINCOLNVILLE. SO HOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO SEE THE HISTORY OF LINCOLNVILLE? LIKE I SAID, ONCE AGAIN, I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE LAW AND. SOME OF OUR PEOPLE ARE HERE WITH ME SUPPORTING ME BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, WE WANT TO SEE STUFF MOVING FORWARD IN LINCOLNVILLE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF ON PAPER AND WE'RE NOT SEEING ANYTHING. YEAH, WE DID ONE THING ON SOUTH STREET AND BUT LIKE I SAID, WE CAN'T REALLY SEE ANYTHING DONE. SO WE TRIED TO DO OUR PART. SO WE'LL BE BACK WITH YOU ALL, THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AS TIME GOES ON. AND THANK YOU, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANY OF YOU ALL. DID YOU ALL INTRODUCE YOURSELVES? WELL, I MIGHT BE BLIND. OH, I'M SO SORRY. I KNOW SOME OF YOU, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THE REST OF THEM BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELVES, DON'T YOU? OH, THEY CALLED. ROLL CALL THE ROLL. OH, DID YOU ALL DO ROLL CALL OR DID I MISS IT? OKAY. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU, MISS WISE. MR GILL WISE. FOLLOWED BY JUSTIN MUELLER. MUELLER. I HOPE I GET THAT RIGHT. HELLO, EVERYONE. HELLO. HELLO. YOUR WIVES LIVE AT EIGHT LEAVITT STREET. OF COURSE. I'M BATTLING, BROTHER. I CAME TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE REHAB PROGRAM, FOR EXAMPLE. MR WISE. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. CAN YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER TO YOUR MOUTH? THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK WE CAN HEAR YOU BECAUSE THE REHAB PROGRAM I HAVE PAPERWORK THAT WHEN THEY DID WORK ON MY HOUSE RECENTLY AND THEY GOT IT ON THE PAPERWORK, THAT THEY REPLACED THREE CEILING FANS. THEY ONLY REPLACE ONE. AND ALSO, LIKE, CARPET IN MY HALLWAY. THEY SAY THEY TOOK THE CARPET UP AND REPLACED IT, BUT THEY ACTUALLY DIDN'T REPLACE THE CARPET. THEY PROVIDED DOWN. AND SEE, I'VE GOT STUFF ON THE PAPERWORK THAT WAS ACTUALLY THEY SAID THEY'D DONE BUT THEY DIDN'T DO. AND YEAH, I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO SOMEBODY ONE, ABOUT THIS AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GET BACK WITH ME, BUT THEY NEVER DID. AND I JUST GOT THIS PAPERWORK ABOUT A MONTH AGO. I'M JUST HERE TO INFORM YOU ALL OF THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR REGAN, WILL YOU TALK TO MR. WISE? SEE IF WE CAN HELP HIM THERE. OKAY. JUSTIN MUELLER FOLLOWED BY MELINDA MCKENZIE. [00:20:02] GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MAYOR. MY NAME IS JUSTIN MUELLER. 31 ELMORE AVENUE. I'M THE PAST COMMODORE OF THE SAINT AUGUSTINE YACHT CLUB. I'M HERE TO JUST BRIEFLY DISCUSS ITEM TEN D, WHICH WOULD BE THE SUBMERGED LAND LEASE FOR THE DOCK ASSOCIATED WITH THE SAILING CENTER AT 110 CARVER STREET. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO FIRST HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION CAN APPROVE SOME FORM OF THE LEASE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE VARIOUS OPTIONS AVAILABLE, AND I HOPE THAT YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT ANY ANY FEES CHARGED IS OBVIOUSLY WE'RE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. ANY FEES CHARGED BY THE CITY WOULD COME OUT OF THE SAILING PROGRAMS THAT HELP THE CHILDREN OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND SORRY ABOUT THE MISPRONUNCIATION OF YOUR NAME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MS. MULLENDORE. FOLLOWED BY JOHN VALDES. MELINDA RECKONS. 86 MAGNOLIA AVENUE. I DON'T HAVE ANY PREPARED. I'M GOING TO WING IT, BUT I KNOW THIS. JOHN'S OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCING HIS RETIREMENT TONIGHT, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE THANKING HIM FOR HIS 25 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY, WHICH I CONCUR WITH. BUT I'M HERE TO THANK JOHN ON BEHALF OF ALL THE THINGS HE WORKED WITH ON ME TO MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR THE RESIDENTS OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF US IN NORTH CITY. IT ALL STARTED WITH A THREAT OF EMINENT DOMAIN BY FSB TO BOTH DEL MAR AND FLOWOOD. THAT WENT ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS. I THINK I LEFT A PACKET THIS THICK WITH JOHN. HE READ IT ALL. I GOT A CALL WHILE I WAS OUT IN SANTA MONICA SAYING, I'VE READ YOUR PACKET. I'M REALLY IMPRESSED. LET'S GET TO WORK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. AND FROM THERE THERE WAS THE PROBLEM WITH 7-ELEVEN, AND ALTHOUGH I LED THE CHARGE AND HELPED ORGANIZE IT, JOHN WAS WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES, TALKING TO CORPORATE 7-ELEVEN, TRYING TO SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE THERE. FROM THERE, HE HELPED DEL MAR TERRACE WITH THE CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC THAT BECAME EVIDENT DURING THE 7-ELEVEN THING AND THROUGH THAT WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH THE STATE TO GET THE NEW INTERSECTION IN THAT. WHILE NOTHING IS PERFECT FOR THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC COMING FROM THE BEACH, IT DOES MAKE THINGS BETTER. AND FROM THERE HE WORKED WITH ME ON THE MOBILITY ISSUE. WHEN THE CITY WAS ALL UP IN ARMS AND COMMITTEES AND PEOPLE FROM ORLANDO WERE TRYING TO TELL US WHAT TO DO. AND FROM WORKING WITH JOHN A LOT, I WENT TO HIM AND I SAID, LOOK, I SAID, WHY DON'T WE GO BACK TO A GRASS ROOTS LEVEL? LET ME ORGANIZE SOME NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL, WHICH WE DID. JOHN ATTENDED AS A LISTENER AND THROUGH THAT AND HE WORKED WITH STEVE CARTER AND I TO SET UP THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT HERE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE SO THAT THE MOBILITY ISSUE IS READILY ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE. AND THERE'S JUST A PHONE CALL AWAY FROM RUBEN. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK JOHN. HE'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH. HE ALWAYS VERY THOROUGH IN READING THE INFORMATION AND RESEARCH I GIVE HIM. AND I THINK THROUGH THAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT TO MAKE THE CITY A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. SO THANK YOU, JOHN. THANK YOU. JOHN VALDES FOLLOWED BY. SIA. SIA. SIA. I APOLOGIZE. HI. WELCOME BACK. HELLO. SO SOON? OH, GOSH, IT'S NICE BEING OUT HERE. NOT. ANYWAY, JOHN VALDES 1395, US ONE SOUTH. GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS. AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. BECAUSE YOU DO A LOT. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT JOHN REGAN AND HOW BLESSED WE'VE BEEN TO HAVE HIM AS THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. AND ACTUALLY SINCE I'VE BEEN IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, WE'VE BEEN BLESSED WITH A SERIES OF GOOD CITY MANAGERS ALL DIFFERENT AND BUT ALL GOOD. AND JOHN WAS ALWAYS EXCEPTIONAL BECAUSE JOHN OH, JOHN THINKS OUTSIDE THE BOX AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. WHAT I'M REALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT, THOUGH, IS YOU GUYS HAVE A HUGE DECISION TO MAKE, AND IT'S A DECISION THAT'S GOING TO REACH OUT INTO THE FUTURE, MAYBE TEN, 12 YEARS, 15 YEARS DEPENDS HOW LONG THE NEXT CITY MANAGER SURVIVES THAT JOB BECAUSE IT'S A TOUGH JOB AND WE ALL KNOW THAT. AND FOR THAT REASON, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT SAINT AUGUSTINE IS A UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT. WE HAVE SO MANY UNIQUE SITUATIONS THAT MOST CITIES DON'T DEAL WITH, INCLUDING 6 MILLION VISITORS A YEAR, WHICH I WAS CORRECTED TODAY, I THOUGHT WAS FOR NANCY SIKES-KLINE CORRECTED ME. AND WE ALSO DEALING WITH FLOODING. WE'RE DEALING WITH ALL KINDS OF ISSUES. WE GOT HOMELESSNESS. WE GOT ACIDITY DISSECTED BY FEDERAL AND STATE HIGHWAYS. [00:25:04] WE HAVE LOTS OF ISSUES. AND I AM STRONGLY ADVOCATING THAT WE PROMOTE FROM WITHIN. WE'VE GOT SOME EXCELLENT CANDIDATES FOR THIS JOB IN THIS CITY, AND WE HAVE TWO SUPERB CANDIDATES THAT ARE WILLING TO SERVE, AND WE WOULD NOT BE LOST WITH EITHER ONE OF THEM BY ANY MEANS. AND IT'S IMPORTANT WE BRING SOMEONE FROM THE OUTSIDE. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LEARNING CURVE THAT'S GOING TO BE CONSIDERABLE. AND DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, THIS CITY GOVERNMENT WILL LOSE MOMENTUM. AND I, BEING A PRIVATE SECTOR PERSON WHO HAS BUSINESSES IN THIS CITY, WHO DEPENDS ON THE CITY BEING EFFICIENT AND NOT LOSING FOCUS AND VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT HAPPENING. SO WE NEED A SMOOTH TRANSITION. WE NEED CONSISTENCY, WE NEED A FEW RIPPLES, AND WE NEED THE CONTINUATION OF THE POLICIES AND THE DIRECTION WE HAVE IN PLACE TO ADDRESS THINGS LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH IS HUGE. SO TRICKLE DOWN THERE. WE CAN HAVE BETTER EMPLOYEES WORKING IN OUR CITY GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE OR NOT BETTER, BUT MORE EMPLOYEES. WE NEED TO CONTINUE WHAT JOHN REGAN AND THIS COMMISSION HAS PUT IN PLACE. AND THE BOARDS DON'T FORGET THE BOARDS. THEY DO ALL THE HARD WORK. AND TO DO THAT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A CONTINUATION. AND I THINK THAT SHOULD COME FROM WITHIN. AND, YOU KNOW, REUBEN FRANKLIN DAVID BIRCHAM, THEY BOTH BRING DIFFERENT THINGS TO THE TABLE, BUT WHAT THEY BRING TO THE TABLE IS EXCELLENT AND I HAVE MY BIAS. BUT THEN AGAIN, IT'S ONLY A TEMPORARY ONE BECAUSE I SEE THEM BOTH EVENTUALLY BEING CITY MANAGERS. ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME ONE MORE TIME. OH, IT WAS A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU BACK. THANK YOU. AND WE WILL WEIGH YOUR WORDS CAREFULLY. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS KEISHA. DID I GET THAT RIGHT, KEISHA? VERY PRETTY NAME, FOLLOWED BY DR. MARGARET RICHARDSON. HI. GREETINGS. MY NAME IS KASIA 139 STREET, AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE CITY SUPPORT TO HOST A ANNUAL LINCOLNVILLE JUNETEENTH COMMUNITY FESTIVAL. WELL, IT WILL. IT WILL FEATURE WALKING TOURS OF HISTORIC LANDMARKS, LIVE MUSIC, YOUTH PERFORMANCES, A KIDS ZONE, AND CULTURAL EXHIBITS TO BRING THE SPIRIT OF LINCOLNVILLE ALIVE. SO WE'RE JUST SEEKING THE CITY'S ASSISTANCE, BEING ABLE TO CELEBRATE THE PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE OF LINCOLNVILLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MS. DR. MARGARET RICKERSON. AND ASSUMING THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER CARDS. UM, YOU HAVE ANOTHER CARD. OKAY. YOU PLEASE GIVE THAT TO MR. REGAN HERE. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. YOU'RE FINE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DR. MARGARET RICHARDSON. I LIVE AT 840 EAST AIKEN STREET, SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. I AM THE PAST PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF COLORED PEOPLE, BETTER KNOWN AS THE NAACP. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT ONE. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT KASIA IN THE EVENT OF JUNE 10TH. I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF ATTENDING THIS EVENT IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, PLACES LIKE AUSTIN, TEXAS. ORLANDO AND I BELIEVE, TAMPA. THIS EVENT IS AN HISTORIC EVENT AND IS IT HAPPENS ANNUALLY. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THE CITY WOULD HELP US KEEP THIS EVENT GOING SO THAT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY OUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE, CHILDREN, CAN KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THIS DATE REPRESENTS. SECONDLY, CONCERNING THE MARKERS IN LINCOLNVILLE. I DON'T LIVE IN LINCOLNVILLE NOW, BUT I LIVED IN LINCOLNVILLE FOR ABOUT 26 YEARS BEFORE MOVING OUT. UM, A LOT OF THINGS ARE GOING ON IN LINCOLNVILLE NOW. WHEN I LIVED IN LINCOLNVILLE, THERE WAS A LOT NEXT DOOR TO ME THAT MY HUSBAND AND I WERE CONSIDERING PURCHASING. UM, AND WE WERE TOLD THAT WE COULDN'T BUILD ANYTHING ON IT. WELL, WE NOTICED NOW THAT THERE ARE BUILDINGS COMING UP EVERYWHERE, SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THEY'RE EVER GOING TO BE A LIMIT TO THE BUILDING IN THE LINCOLNVILLE AREA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD COMING. ANYBODY ELSE, PLEASE? WE'RE COMING TO THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD AND SUBMIT IT. THANK YOU. GAIL EUBANKS. YES, THAT'S ME. GOOD EVENING. I COME TO SHARE IN THE RABBI'S COMMENTS ABOUT VALUES AND YOUR PROCLAMATION FOR EDUCATION AND [00:30:06] SHARING DAY AND MR VALDES IS COMMENTS ABOUT HAVING SOMEONE THAT'S FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE TO LEAD SAINT AUGUSTINE. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. I SEE VERY LITTLE OF MY HISTORY BEING ADVERTISED AND PUBLICIZED IN SAINT AUGUSTINE'S. PUBLICATIONS IN LINCOLNVILLE. WE ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE OUR HISTORY AND PRESERVE WHAT I'VE WAS BORN AND RAISED FROM THE VALUES THAT WE WERE BORN AND RAISED TO AND WE SEE VERY LITTLE OF IT AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PRESERVE THAT HISTORY HERE. AND I ENJOY THE COMMENTS FROM THE LAST SPEAKER, THE LAST TWO SPEAKERS ABOUT JUNETEENTH. IT IS A CELEBRATION OF OUR HISTORY. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE HISTORIC, LET'S BE HISTORIC FOR WHAT WE WERE HERE FOR OR WHAT THE NAME LINCOLNVILLE WAS WAS NAMED FOR, OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO BE SELECTIVE IN THE HISTORY THAT WE CHOOSE TO DISPLAY AND LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT? BECAUSE HE'S TALKING ABOUT 6 MILLION VISITORS. BUT JUST THINK WE'RE MISSING A HUGE MARKET BECAUSE WE DON'T ADVERTISE ABOUT THE HISTORY THAT WE GREW UP IN AND THAT WE KNOW FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE. AND I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME AND. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE LAST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS. BJ. MS.. BJ. KALAIDI. BJ KALAIDI. WEST CITY. SAINT AUGUSTINE. TEN A. THIS OWNER CANNOT EXPAND THE MARINA BY REMAINING IN THE COUNTY. REALLY? PROPERTIES ANNEXING INTO THE CITY LIMITS CONTINUES TO PUT MORE STRESS ON CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE SERVICES WHICH ADDITIONAL WHICH ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAXES DO NOT COVER. TEN BE THE GOAL TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE BY CONSTRUCTING IN 2006, THE DOWNTOWN PARKING GARAGE HAS FAILED. THE CITY'S PLAN TO REMOVE CARS YET ALLOW SKATEBOARDS, BICYCLES, ELECTRIC SCOOTERS, GOLF CARTS, ETCETERA TO CLUTTER OUR STREETS CREATES MORE SAFETY AND ENFORCEMENT ISSUES. D REQUIRE A CITY SUBMERGED LANDS LEASE AND CHARGE $1,250 FEE PER YEAR. STOP JUSTIFYING BY USING DEALS MADE WITH ANOTHER 501 C35 HUNDRED AND 1C3 DO NOT PAY PROPERTY TAXES OR SALES TAXES. THEY HAVE AN INCOME ALLOWING THE AMPHITHEATER AT THE LAST MEETING TO USE FRANCIS FIELD IN SEPTEMBER WAS WRONG. THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN REFERRED TO SAINT JOHN'S FAIRGROUNDS. RESIDENTS OF THIS SMALL TOWN CONTINUE TO BE IGNORED BY DECISIONS OF CITY STAFF. HOME RULE TO DO AS ONE PLEASES WITHOUT OVERSIGHT CONTINUES TO DESTROY OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. QUESTION AS THE PRESENT CITY MANAGER AND ELECTED POLITICIANS TAKEN ME UP ON MY INVITATION TO VISIT 12 NEWCOMB STREET. 13 A IN DECEMBER 2021, THE SECOND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER POSITION FOR $145,000 WAS CREATED. HE SHOULD PAY HIS OWN WATER BILL. THERE IS NO NEED FOR TWO ASSISTANT MANAGERS IN THIS SMALL TOWN. THERE IS NO FUN AND JOY WHEN DESTROYING THE LIVABILITY OF CITY RESIDENTS. TAXPAYERS CONTINUES TO OCCUR BY DECISIONS OF BUREAUCRATS. AND I'D LIKE TO JUST ASK. MR REGAN AND ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD CARE TO DONATE $5 FOR A NO TRESPASSING SIGN TO THE OWNER OF THE 36 GRANADA STREET PROPERTY THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AS A AS A RESTAURANT TO. NOT HAVE IT CONTINUE AS A SLEEPING AREA FOR THE HOMELESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS CLOSED. WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE ON THE AGENDA CONSENT AGENDA. [5. CONSENT AGENDA] MR. REGAN. ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE A REMINDER OF UPCOMING MEETINGS. APRIL 10TH, 2020 3:05 P.M.. REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 24TH, 2020 3:05 P.M.. REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING MAY 8TH, 2020 3:05 P.M.. REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING WITH APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PRIOR COMMISSION MEETINGS FEBRUARY 27TH, 2023. REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING. WE HAVE A RELEASE OF LIEN FOR UNIT CONNECTION FEE MORTGAGE AT 1024 KENNEDY DRIVE, STEPHANIE AND MARSHALL ASHTON. WE HAVE A PROPOSED PROCLAMATION. PROCLAMATION 2023 DASH 19 PROCLAIMS APRIL 20TH, 23 AS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, AND WE HAVE FINANCIAL UPDATE [00:35:07] FOR PERIOD ENDING FEBRUARY 28TH, 2023. I MOVE THAT WE PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA. I SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO APPEALS. WE HAVE NO GENERAL PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS, NO ITEMS OF GREAT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE ITEM 71, WHICH IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING FOR FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, SMALL [7.C.1. First Public Hearing for Florida Department of Economic Opportunity, Small Cities Community Development Block Grant (C. Sakryd, Deputy Director, General Services)] CITIES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. MR. SACRED, YOU ARE HERE TO PRESENT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. VICE MAYOR. COMMISSIONERS. COREY SACRED, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF GENERAL SERVICES. TONIGHT, I HAVE THE HONOR OF INTRODUCING A RECENT MEMBER TO OUR SAINT AUGUSTINE STAFF. MR. ERIC WALTERS IS A UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS VETERAN SERVING IN AFGHANISTAN. HE CAME TO THE CITY VIA THE AMAZON PROCUREMENT TEAM AND WAS AN WAS A NO BRAINER CHOICE TO JOIN OUR PROCUREMENT STAFF. WHILE HE WAS IN A BRIEF TIME AS OUR PROCUREMENT STAFF, HE SHOWED AN INTEREST IN OUR GRANTS PROGRAM AND WHEN AN OPENING CAME, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, HE WAS THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR THE SELECTION. SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE ERIC. THANK YOU, COREY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. AS COREY SAID, MY NAME IS ERIC WALTERS. I'M THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATION COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF SEEING AUGUSTINE. SO I'M INFORMING YOU TODAY THAT THERE IS THE CITY IS ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR THE SMALL CITIES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM. IT'S GOING TO BE 100% FUNDED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 13 MILLION IN FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR 2022 FUNDS THAT IS AVAILABLE TO ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS. THIS APPLICATION CYCLE OPENED ON MARCH 20TH AND WILL CLOSE ON MAY 5TH. THE CDBG GRANT IS VITAL FOR NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION, HOUSING, REHAB, COMMERCIAL REVITALIZATION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IN ORDER TO BENEFIT FROM THE FUNDING, THE ACTIVITY MUST MEET ONE OF THE FOLLOWING NATIONAL OBJECTIVES. PROVIDE BENEFIT OF LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS. ELIMINATION OF SLUM OR BLIGHT CONDITIONS OR ADDRESS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT NEEDS WHICH POSE A SERIOUS AND IMMEDIATE THREAT TO COMMUNITY HEALTH OR WELFARE. NOW SOME EXAMPLES, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO OUR WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENTS. REHABILITATION OF SUBSTANDARD HOUSING. STREET AND SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES THAT CREATE JOBS FOR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE. PARK FACILITIES AND COMMUNITY CENTERS AND ALSO DRAINAGE AND STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS. SO TO QUALIFY FOR THIS FUNDING OPPORTUNITY, I NEED TO ADDRESS A PUBLIC NOTICE FOR THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDING PROJECT ACTIVITIES AND ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M ASKING THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER OPENING THIS PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD? ALL RIGHT. THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS OPEN. I HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD. HAS ANYONE DOES ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE MATTER? IF NOT, THEN I CALL MS.. BJ. KALAIDI. BJ KALAIDI WAS A CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. I HOPE THESE QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED. WHAT DOLLAR FIGURE DOES CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE USE AS THE AREA'S MEDIAN INCOME? THIS FIGURE SHOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM THE COUNTY, WHICH IS HIGHER BECAUSE THERE. SALARIES. IN THE COUNTY IS A LOT HIGHER THAN OURS. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE I KNOW THIS FLUCTUATES, BUT GIVING US AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT MEDIAN INCOME IS AND WHAT WILL BE USED IN DETERMINING THE GRANT MONEY. SINCE FLOODING IS SERIOUS AND IMMEDIATE THREAT DRAINAGE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD BE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. FLORIDA AVENUE IN WEST CITY, WHICH HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS AS WELL AS OTHER PLACES, BUT THIS IS IN WEST CITY, COULD BENEFIT FROM $13 MILLION CDBG OR AS MUCH AS THE CITY CAN GO FOR. AND IF MR. ERIC AND MR. COREY CAN GIVE US AN IDEA, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL HOW MUCH THE CITY IS GOING FOR AND HAVE THEY ALREADY MADE A DECISION AS TO HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE SPENT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MS.. CLAUDIA ANY. ANY OTHER PERSONS HERE TO SPEAK? [00:40:03] PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS CLOSED AGAIN. DO YOU WISH TO MR SOCCER? DO YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS? DO WE GET TO DEFINE WHAT MEDIAN INCOME IS? DOES THE DURING THE APPLICATION PROCESS WE GET THAT INFORMATION FROM THE US CENSUS BUREAU FROM THE SITE AND UNFORTUNATELY AND I WILL FOLLOW UP ON THIS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT IS FOR THE COUNTY AND NOT FOR THE CITY, BUT I'LL VERIFY THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? I GUESS THE FIRST THING OCCURS TO ME IS DO WE HAVE A SPECIFIC AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THIS? I KNOW WE HAVE LINCOLNVILLE AREA, WE HAVE THE GARAGE. SO ARE WE LOOKING AT WEST AUGUSTINE? WHAT ARE WE WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? GENERALLY SPEAKING, WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY BEEN MADE TODAY? AS FAR AS THE CHANGE IN LINCOLNVILLE, WE FOUND THAT THE LAST CDBG PROJECT WE HAD WAS PROBABLY GOING TO BE OUR LAST ONE IN THAT AREA BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMIC, YOU KNOW, THE LEVEL OF AVERAGE LEVEL OF INCOME. JUST REMEMBER, THESE PROGRAMS ARE SUPPOSED TO BENEFIT LOW TO MODERATE PERSONS. AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR WEST AUGUSTINE. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE COME IN HERE AND SPOKE ABOUT FLORIDA AVENUE AND THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD OVER THERE. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO SHIFT THAT WATER. IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE FLOODING THERE IS. SO THIS FUNDING LAST YEAR, WE CAME TO YOU FOR AN APPLICATION. THIS IS THE SECOND THEY DID FISCAL YEAR 21 AND 22. AND THIS IS THE LEFTOVER MONEY FROM THE INITIAL APPLICATIONS. OUR APPLICATION WAS NOT SELECTED. SO THIS PERIOD IS OPEN AGAIN FOR US TO GIVE ANOTHER SHOT. OKAY. OKAY. COULD YOU PROVIDE US WITH SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT SPECIFICALLY YOU'RE TARGETING? I CAN THINK OF SEPTIC TO SEWER CONVERSION, FOR EXAMPLE. IT COULD BE ANY ONE OF THE ONE OF THE AREAS THAT ERIC SELECTED. SO IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO. BUT IN THE GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS, DOESN'T SOMETHING HAVE TO BE IDENTIFIED AS THE PROJECT FOR WHICH WE ARE ASKED? YES. SO FOR THE FIRST FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS THE NOTIFICATION OF AND ALLOWING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT OF THAT THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE AND THEN SUGGESTIONS FOR THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL HAVE TO BE HELD BEFORE MAY 5TH. AND THAT'S WHEN WE WILL PRESENT A PROJECT FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO REVIEW AND APPROVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO PROJECT FORTHCOMING. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. MAYOR. IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER BLINDER'S QUESTION, I CAN GIVE SOME EXAMPLES OF HISTORICAL GRANTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN UNDER THE CDBG PROGRAM, AND THEY RANGE FROM PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS TO THE CITY. WE OBTAINED A CDBG GRANT THAT ASSISTED IN THE RIBERIA STREET RIBERIA RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, THE DORA STREET DRAINAGE SYSTEMS DOWN NEAR SOUTH STREET. IT WAS A CDBG GRANT PROGRAM. I THINK WE USED A CDBG GRANT AS PART OF THE SEAWALL PROJECT. WE HAVE AN ACTIVE CDBG GRANT WITH SAINT FRANCIS HOUSE THAT'S A HALF MILLION DOLLAR TO HELP THEM REHABILITATE THEIR PROGRAMS. AND I'M SURE THAT I'M MISSING SOME OTHERS. BUT WE WERE A SMALL CITY THAT STILL CAN QUALIFY COMPETITIVELY FOR OUR CDBG GRANTS. IT'S BEEN ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS WHERE WE'VE OBTAINED FEDERAL DOLLARS TO HELP HAVE TO EVEN GO BACK, MAYBE EVEN THERE WAS 500,000 OF THE GARAGE. THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A CDBG GRANT. THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN AN APPROPRIATION FOR CONGRESSMAN MICA. THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MICA. SO WE'VE USED IT NUMEROUS TIMES. I'M SURE I'M MISSING SOMETHING OUT. BUT TO STAFF'S POINT, WE SEE OUR FOCUS MORE ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE CITY FOR PROJECTS FROM SAN SEBASTIAN OVER THE POINT OF TONIGHT IS TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES AND WE THIS IS A SOLICITATION FOR GOOD IDEAS AND THEY CAN COME FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THEY CAN COME NONPROFITS, A CITY PROJECT, OURSELVES AND SO FORTH. SO THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING TO SEEK CDBG MONEY. OKAY, GREAT. IT'S BEEN VERY POWERFUL FOR US. MR SPRINGFIELD. ONE QUESTION, BECAUSE I KNOW I'M GOING TO BE ASKED, CAN THIS CAN THIS GRANT MONEY BE USED JUST TO PURCHASE LAND? I KNOW THAT IS NOT ONE OF THE AREAS. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR REGAN. WOULD YOU REMIND ME OF WHAT WHAT WAS THE LAST GRANT CYCLE THAT WE WERE NOT SELECTED FOR? WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THAT GRANT OR MR? THAT GRANT WAS WITH THE HOMELESS COALITION, WITH MS. DEBBIE REDDING, AND WE HAD AN APPLICATION IN, UM, DID, DID MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PROBABLY APPLY AGAIN AND MOVE FORWARD. [00:45:02] BUT YET AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING WAS JUST TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT THESE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE AND THE APPLICATION CYCLE. OKAY. YES, MISS HORVATH. MY QUESTION IS TO FOLLOW MR STRINGFIELD'S. IF IF IF YOU PURCHASED PROPERTY THAT DID FLOOD MITIGATION, WOULD THAT QUALIFY? I WOULD HAVE TO DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE THAT WOULD BE OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE I BELIEVE WE HAD A GRANT CYCLE THAT WAS OPEN FOLLOWING ONE OF THE HURRICANES. AND IT WAS WE TRIED TO TIE IN FOR AN APPLICANT. WE DID SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR CDBG FUNDS THAT WENT HAND IN HAND WITH THE LAKE MARIA SANCHEZ PROJECT. AND WE WERE NOT SELECTED BECAUSE ONE OF THE COMPONENTS IN THE GRANT WOULD NOT FIT THE PROGRAM WE WERE USING. WE WERE USING CDBG FUNDS TO OFFSET THE FEMA HMGP 7,525% SPLIT. OKAY. WELL, WE WILL HEAR FROM YOU IN THE FUTURE ON THIS AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND YOU HAVE A FINAL COMMENT. WELL, I WAS JUST THINKING. PROPERTY THAT COULD PERHAPS FUNCTION FOR FLOODING AND PARK USE. SO NOT NECESSARILY TYING IT TO A SPECIFIC LIKE MARIA SANCHEZ, LIKE, AGAIN, I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL IDEAS ARE WELCOME FROM COMMISSIONERS. PLEASE CONTACT CITY MANAGER AND DISCUSS THAT. SO LOTS OF GOOD IDEAS OUT THERE AND NEEDS. DEFINITELY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO STAFF REPORTS ITEM TEN, BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS, PUBLIC HEARINGS AND NO PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM TEN A, WHICH IS A PETITION FOR VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AND PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT WITH CATSPAW. [10.A. Petition for Voluntary Annexation and Pre-Annexation Agreement - Cat's Paw Marina (A. Skinner, Planning and Building Director)] MARINA MS. SKINNER, YOU'RE INVITED TO GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. YES, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS AMY SKINNER. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THIS IS A PRESENTATION TO DISCUSS THE PETITION TO ANNEX AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT FOR APPROXIMATELY 0.95 ACRES OF PROPERTY ON NICK'S BOATYARD ROAD. THE EXISTING CATSPAW MARINA IS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. IT IS A PUD, A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH A BOAT, BARN OFFICE AND DOCKING FACILITIES. LET'S SEE. I HAVE A MAP SHOWING. THIS IS A SIMPLE MAP FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE, BUT IT SHOWS THE EXISTING CATSPAW MARINA PROPERTY, WHICH IS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION INCLUDES ONLY THE EASTERN PORTION OF A 1.62 ACRE TOTAL PARCEL. I HAVE THIS OTHER MAP. THIS IS THE ENTIRE PARCEL THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE COUNTY THAT WAS BOUGHT BY THE CAT'S PAW MARINA. AND THE EASTERN PORTION IS WHAT IS PROPOSED TO BE ANNEXED. SO YOU CAN SEE THE THE OUTLINE IN RED IS THE EASTERN PORTION. THERE IS A DRIVEWAY OR A ROADWAY THAT ACCESSES THE REAR PART OF THE PROPERTY, AND IT WOULD CONTINUE TO STAY IN THE COUNTY. AND. THIS AREA OUTLINED IN RED IS APPROXIMATELY THE ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE ANNEXED IN. THE APPROVAL PROCESS WOULD REQUIRE REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO CHANGE THE LAND USE FROM THE COUNTY DESIGNATION OF MIXED USE TO THE CITY DESIGNATION OF MARINE INDUSTRIAL USE. THE COUNTY ZONING DISTRICT IS CURRENTLY MANUFACTURED MOBILE HOME, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD EVENTUALLY TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE EXISTING PUD. THEY WERE MOBILE HOMES ON THE PROPERTY THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED AS PART OF THE PROCESS, THE OWNER OR THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO ADDRESS THE TREE REMOVAL ISSUE ON THE SITE, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER PERTINENT ISSUES AS PART OF THE INCORPORATING THE PROPERTY INTO THE EXISTING PUD. THE PCB DOES REMOVE, DOES REVIEW EXCUSE ME, THREE ISSUES RELATED TO PROTECTED TREES AND AS PART OF A POTENTIAL PUD. I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AND THE OWNER IS ALSO HERE IN YOUR PACKET. WE DID. I DID KIND OF TRY TO DO A LITTLE ANALYSIS. I HAVE TO SAY IT'S PLANAR MATH. I'M SURE EVERY FINANCIAL OFFICER PROBABLY CRINGED IN A FIVE MILE RADIUS. BUT I DO HAVE SOME KIND OF NUMBERS TO PRIORITIZE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. I IT'S KIND OF MY ESTIMATION THAT IF THIS PROPERTY WERE TO BE ANNEXED IN THAT WE WOULD POTENTIALLY RECEIVE ABOUT [00:50:06] $74,000 IN MOBILITY FEES IN OUR MOBILITY ORDINANCE. IT DOES CALL FOR $370 PER BERTH, AND THAT INCLUDES WET OR DRY SLIPS. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE WOULD PROPOSE APPROXIMATELY 200 BOAT STORAGE UNITS THERE. JUST AS KIND OF ESTIMATING OUR BUILDING PERMIT FEE WOULD BE ABOUT $20,000. WE DO HAVE A FEE CALCULATOR THAT WE USE TO DO THAT. AND FOR 35,000 SQUARE FOOT STORAGE BUILDING, IT WOULD ESTIMATE OF BUILDING VALUE OF $2.6 MILLION AND THE $20,000 ROUGHLY IN PERMIT FEES, THERE WOULD BE AN INCREMENTAL AD VALOREM TAX GAINED ASSUMING A FULL BUILD OUT ON THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, RANGING BETWEEN 13 AND $17,000 IN A FIRE ASSESSMENT, BETWEEN 2 AND $5000 FOR A RANGE OF BENEFIT IN TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY, AROUND $20,000 POTENTIALLY. THE VALUE, OF COURSE, WOULD GO UP. THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE CITY OR NOT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL BENEFIT TO DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY IS IS CLEAR. I THINK. SO. AGAIN, THE I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER AND OTHER REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE DON'T TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS. SO THIS IS REALLY A QUESTION AND ANSWER BETWEEN STAFF. IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER, CERTAINLY. YOU'RE WELCOME. WE CAN WELCOME TO INVITE WELCOME TO INVITE THEM UP. AND JUST A REMINDER, THERE WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE CREATING THE PETITION JUST IF FOLKS ARE LISTENING THE PRE THING AND THIS IS A THIS IS YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THIS OR YOU JUST WANT TO PRESENTATION THE PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT. CORRECT AND ACCEPTING THE PETITION. AND THEN ONCE WE DO THAT, IT GOES, AS MISS SKINNER MENTIONED, GOES TO PCB FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT MAYBE MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE NOTICES ARE PUBLISHED AND THEN FOLKS CAN ATTEND AND MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT A FUTURE MEETING WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY ADOPTING THE ORDINANCE TO ANNEX. SO THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS. SO FIRST, FIRST BLUSH, THAT IS CORRECT. YOU WILL SEE AN INTRODUCTION AND A SECOND READING IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD OF ALL THREE ORDINANCES, POTENTIALLY THE ANNEXATION ORDINANCE, AN ORDINANCE INCORPORATING THE PROPERTY INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. IF IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD. ALL RIGHT. UM, COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YES, I VISITED THE SITE AND I REALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. WHAT I WOULD BE MOST AFRAID OF IS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC OR PEOPLE LIVING ON THE SITE. AND THIS IS KIND OF A PERFECT THING WHERE THERE IS NOT MUCH TRAFFIC. YOU'RE STORING YOUR BOAT THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE LOADED INTO THE WATER AND THERE WON'T BE PEOPLE LIVING THERE. SO IT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO BE A BIG TASK ON THE CITY AS FAR AS EMERGENCY SERVICES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO I. YOU OKAY? SO FAR I'M SUPPORTING THIS. OKAY. COMMISSIONER, BLONDER, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YES. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR MISS SKINNER AND MAYBE 1 OR 2 FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, THE BENEFITS TO THE CITY ARE ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE, WHICH YOU'VE OUTLINED IN YOUR PLAN OR MATH. THANK YOU. UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE BENEFITS FOR THE REZONING TO THE APPLICANT? IN OTHER WORDS, I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHAT FACILITIES WOULD BE REQUESTED, WHICH I'LL ASK IN JUST A MOMENT, BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO GIVE ME A ROUGH COMPARISON BETWEEN THE COUNTY'S ZONING FOR THE SITE, THE CURRENT ZONING AND THE CITY'S PROPOSED THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED ZONING FROM THE CITY IN TERMS OF INTENSITY OF USE. UM. THE I'M NOT TOTALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE COUNTY'S PROCESSES, BUT MY ASSUMPTION IS SINCE IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED FOR MANUFACTURED HOMES AND THERE WERE MOBILE HOMES ON THE PROPERTY, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME KIND OF REZONING PROCESS OR A PUD PROCESS IN THE COUNTY. EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY, I WASN'T VERY CLEAR. WHAT IS THE COUNTY'S MIXED USE INCLUDE? WHAT'S WHAT IS THEIR ZONING INCLUDE THAT THEIR LAND USE CATEGORY I THINK IS VERY BROAD. IT'S IT'S BROADER THAN OUR LAND USE CATEGORY. OURS IS SPECIFIC TO MARINE INDUSTRIAL USES AND IS IS NARROWER. SO IN IN MY UNDERSTANDING, A MUCH BROADER LIST OF USES COULD BE ALLOWED. SO IT'S COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL, IT COULD BE COMMERCIAL OR IT COULD BE THE THE THE ALSO THE ZONING WHERE YOU HAVE THE MANUFACTURED HOMES OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH. [00:55:04] FOR EXAMPLE, I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY TO THE REAR THAT IS STILL IN THE COUNTY, THE FREEDOM BOAT CLUB PEOPLE ARE ALL HAVE BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY AND THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD THEIR OWN FACILITIES TO DO FUNCTION AND MOVE FROM COMANCHE COVE TO TO HERE'S FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND THEY HAVE ALSO PROPOSED TO EXPAND THEIR DOCK FACILITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO. OKAY. SO I'M JUST OBSERVING OUT LOUD THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE AN INTENSITY OF FOCUS IN THIS AREA FOR MARINA USE, AND THAT'S ON THE SAN SEBASTIAN RIVER, RIGHT? YES. SO WE ALREADY HAVE EXISTING CONFLICTS WITH BOATING TRAFFIC. I JUST WANT TO REGISTER THIS AND MARINE MAMMALS IN PARTICULAR. AND IF THAT INTENSITY OF USE OF BOATS ESCALATES THAT WE REALLY WANT TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN TERMS OF LIMITING SPEED ZONES IN THAT IN THE SAN SEBASTIAN SAN SEBASTIAN MORE THAN ARE ALREADY IMPOSED. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN I GUESS FOR THE I'M SORRY. AND THEN FOR THE APPLICANT, WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES SPECIFICALLY OF WHAT TYPES OF FACILITIES YOU MIGHT INCLUDE? YEAH. IS THAT OKAY? YOU'RE INVITED TO SPEAK THROUGH THE MAYOR. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. BRAD WESTER, DRIVER, MCAFEE, HAWTHORNE, AND NOW JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. ONE INDEPENDENT DRIVE SUITE 1200. JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. 32202. UM, I'M THE AGENT FOR THE OWNER AND APPLICANT, AND I'VE GOT MY TEAM HERE, THE OWNERS HERE AS WELL. CIVIL ENGINEER AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I WASN'T SURE IF I WAS GOING TO WAIT TILL EVERYBODY GOT DONE UP THERE, BUT THANK YOU, COMMISSION AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOUR QUESTION TO GO BACK ON THE MIXED USE FOR SAINT JOHNS COUNTY. MIXED USE IS A VERY BROAD CATEGORY. IT DOES ALLOW EVERYTHING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO INDUSTRIAL. IT DOES HAVE SOME DIFFERENT CAVEATS FOR INDUSTRIAL. IT DOES ALLOW RV AND BOAT STORAGE ALLOWS SOME HIGH END DRY. BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT CAVEATS IN THE CODE. IT ALLOWS UP TO A 70% FLOOR AREA RATIO. SO IT CAN BE A FAIRLY INTENSE CATEGORY FOR MIXED USE, BUT IT IS VERY BROAD REACHING. IT'S I LIKE YOUR TERM, THIS IS A VERY NARROW, FOCUSED AREA FOR MARINE INDUSTRIAL AND THE MAJORITY OF THE CAMPUS RIGHT NOW, EIGHT PLUS ACRES IS CURRENTLY IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, AND IT'S CURRENTLY OPERATING UNDER BOTH A COMBINATION OF MARINE INDUSTRIAL AND ALSO THE OPEN LAND, WHICH IS KIND OF THE WETLAND AREAS. I DO HAVE EXHIBITS I'D LIKE TO PASS OUT. SO IF YOU DON'T MIND. OKAY. WE'LL GIVE THOSE TO YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO THE GENERAL PURPOSE OF THIS IS YOU SAW THE EXPANSION OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, 1.6 ACRES ROUGHLY, BUT ONLY ABOUT 0.9. 0.95 ACRES TOTAL IS GOING TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. THE REST OF THAT LAND WILL REMAIN FOR FUTURE ACCESS TO THE PARCELS ABUTTING THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, AS AMY DESCRIBED. AND SO THERE'S SOME INTENT BEHIND THAT. THE BUILDING, AS YOU SEE, AND YOU CAN SCROLL THROUGH THOSE, THE GRAPHICS, THE BUILDING ITSELF, AND I HAVE LARGER BOARDS HERE IF WE NEED THEM, BUT THE BUILDING ITSELF WILL ACTUALLY, AS IT'S PLANNED RIGHT NOW, ACTUALLY SPREADS ACROSS ACROSS BOTH JURISDICTIONS, JURISDICTIONS. AND SO FOR REALLY CONTINUITY, FOR PERMITTING INSPECTION, DID YOU WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE OVERHEAD WHILE YOU'RE TALKING? WOULD THAT HELP? I THINK SO, YEAH. I'M GOING TO GET THAT RIGHT THIS SECOND HERE. THANK YOU. SO YOU HAVE THIS GRAPHIC. THIS IS PART OF THE EXHIBIT PACKAGE THAT I GAVE YOU. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORANGE ON THIS EXHIBIT, THAT IS THE AREA THAT IS GOING TO BE PROPOSED TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. THE BLUE REMAINS IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY AND THE BLUE REMAINS IN SAINT JOHNS COUNTY. FOR CONTINUITY OF ESSENTIALLY TOUCHING OTHER COUNTY PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH OF CATSPAW MARINA. THE ORANGE, AS YOU SEE, AND I'LL PUT MY MY PEN THERE YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING THAT IS OUR PROPOSED BUILDING. ESSENTIALLY, IT MARRIES UP AND MERGES WITH THE EXISTING BOAT BARN, AS WE'LL CALL IT, BUT IT CROSSES OVER INTO THE JURISDICTION. SO FOR A CONTINUITY OF UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE FELT IT WAS BEST FROM NOT ONLY A PERMITTING TAXATION, FUTURE INSPECTIONS, OTHER BUILDING PERMITS, AS THEY MAY ARISE IN THE FUTURE, TO BE IN ONE JURISDICTION JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE CAMPUS FOR CATSPAW. AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS. AND THERE IS A NEED. IT IS A VERY LOW TRAFFIC GENERATOR. THIS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY UP TO 150 BOATS THAT ARE NOT STORED OUTSIDE ANYMORE OR IN THE MARINA OR CLOGGING OTHER WATERWAY MARINAS, BUT PUT INTO A HIGH AND [01:00:08] DRY AND A PROTECTED AREA. SO YOU CAN KIND OF THINK OF IT THAT WAY. BUT AGAIN, THE OVERALL PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS EXISTS IS OVER EIGHT ACRES. THIS IS ABOUT 9/10 OF AN ACRE TOTAL THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. AND WE THINK THAT THE MIXED USE, BECAUSE IT ALLOWS INDUSTRIAL IS VERY COMMENSURATE WITH MARINE INDUSTRIAL. BUT WE WOULD BE SEEKING FOR THE MARINE INDUSTRIAL LAND USE IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED TONIGHT, TO MOVE FORWARD INTO THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE ZONING AND ENTITLEMENT PHASE. I HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. YOU WANT MORE QUESTIONS? ONE MORE POINT I JUST WANT TO RAISE IS THAT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME PRETTY DECENT SIZED TREES ON THE PROPERTY, AND SO I HOPE WE WILL BE DILIGENT IN DOING WHAT WE CAN TO PROTECT THEM. OKAY THEN. THANK YOU. TRAFFIC GENERATED IS JUST PEOPLE COMING TO TO LEAVE WITH THEIR BOATS. IS THAT. I KNOW THE BOATS ARE GOING TO STAY SO THE BOATS WILL BE IN THE HIGH AND DRY AND THEY'RE PULLED OUT BY A FORKLIFT AND PUT IN, BUT THEY WILL BE THERE BY THEIR POV, THEIR OWN VEHICLE. SO THEY'LL PARK AND THEN THEY WILL USE THE AND USUALLY IT'S A MULTI LET'S SAY IT'S A A POV PERSONAL OPERATING VEHICLE, BUT IT'S MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN IT. OKAY. YOU IMAGINE RIGHT, GOING OUT FOR THE DAY ON THE BOAT SO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF OF KIND OF RIDESHARE ALREADY BUILT INTO SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT'S A DESTINATION BASED ACTIVITY. SO THOSE FOLKS WILL PARK AND THEN THEY'LL GET THEY'LL MEET AT THE DOCK AND THEN THE THE ACTUALLY THE CREW AND THE TEAM WILL THEN TAKE THE BOAT OUT OF THE DRY STORAGE, PUT IT IN THE WATER, AND IT'LL BE READY FOR THEM. AND SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY HOW THAT WORKS. SO THEY WON'T BE TRAILERING OR A BOAT THERE FOR THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND. BUT IT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE 150 PEOPLE COMING AND GOING WITH THEIR TO PICK UP THEIR BOAT FROM THE STORAGE AT THE WATER'S EDGE. IF THEY ALL COME IN THAT ONE DAY, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD DAY FOR US, BUT I DOUBT THAT'S THE CASE. IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE SPREAD OUT THROUGH THE WEEKEND AND YOU KIND OF HAVE A SENSE OF AN EQUILIBRIUM OR A CRITICAL MASS OVER TIME WITH THE PROPERTIES LIKE THIS. IT'S IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT WE'LL EVER HAVE A COMPLETELY VACANT BOAT BARN BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S THERE AND THEN EVERYBODY'S ON THE WATER. I DON'T EVER FORESEE THAT. OKAY. BUT I DO SHARE. OH, GOODNESS. I DO SHARE. COMMISSIONER BONDER'S CONCERN WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT WE ARE ALLOWING MORE BOAT TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT YOU WOULD BE SENSITIVE TO, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THEM SLOWED DOWN, THAT SORT OF THING. UNDERSTOOD. YES. YEAH, WE AND WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY US. COAST GUARD AND FISH AND WILDLIFE AND MARINE PATROL REGULATIONS ALREADY. AND CERTAINLY THERE WILL BE MANATEE PROTECTION BUILT INTO THIS. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THIS IS JUST TO. A DISCUSSION TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEP, WHICH WILL THEN BE TO VET THE TREES ON THE PROPERTY. AND MY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IS HERE AS WELL. BUT WE'VE GOT YES, THERE ARE SOME TREES THAT WILL BE COMING OUT, BUT WE HAVE A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE REPLANTING PLAN THAT GOES WITH THIS PROPERTY THAT WILL BE VETTED THROUGH THE PWD PROCESS BECAUSE AS THIS WILL PLAY OUT, NOT TO JUMP AHEAD, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO A PWD MODIFICATION. SO THERE'S ALREADY A PWD ON CAT'S PAW. WE WOULD MODIFY THAT EXISTING PWD TO WRAP INTO THIS THIS NEW 9/10 OF AN ACRE, IF YOU WILL, AND THEN MODIFY THAT FOR THE NEEDS FOR PARKING AND LANDSCAPING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND STAFF WILL HAVE A CUT AT IT, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR CITY ADMINISTRATION. AND OF COURSE, THROUGH THE PUBLIC VETTING PROCESS, EVERYBODY WILL HAVE A CUT AT THAT TO REALLY DRILL DOWN INTO THE TREES. WHAT'S OUT THERE? WHERE DO WE HAVE EVERYTHING? SAFETY SITE, TRIANGLE, STOP SIGNS, YOU NAME IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'LL BE THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR THESE GRAPHICS. YEAH, I THOUGHT THEY'D BE HELPFUL. I HAVE BIG BOARDS TOO. I ALWAYS PLAN IF EVERYTHING GOES DOWN THAT AT LEAST I'VE GOT BACKUP. SO I DON'T THINK WE'LL NEED THOSE TONIGHT, BUT I'LL SAVE THEM FOR NEXT TIME. I'M WELL PREPARED. COMMISSIONER GARRIS. I WENT OUT TO THE SITE ALSO, SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT AREA HE'S TALKING ABOUT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO MAKE MORE REVENUE SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS SOME THINGS LIKE THE HOMELESS AND OTHER SITUATIONS WITH THAT REVENUE, IF THAT'S AT ALL POSSIBLE. GOOD RESPONSE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION. WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE, WE APPROVE THE PETITION FOR REZONING AND ANNEXATION AND ANNEXATION AGREEMENT. VERY GOOD. I SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. JIM SPRINGFIELD. YES. ROXANNE HORVATH. YES. EXCUSE ME. CYNTHIA GARRIS. [01:05:02] YES. BARBARA BLONDER. YES. NANCY SIKES-KLINE. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEE YOU AGAIN. GREAT WORK AS CITY MANAGER. MY TIME WORKING WITH YOU IS LIMITED, BUT IT WAS CONSISTENT OVER THE LAST DECADE. BUT WELL DESERVED. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. WESTER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ITEM TEN B, WE HAVE THE PARKING CODE PRESENTATION. [10.B. Parking Code Update (A. Skinner, Planning and Building Director)] YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO YOUR PRESENTATION, MISS SKINNER. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. MY NAME IS AMY SKINNER. I DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A PRESENTATION, BUT WE. YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY I'M OPEN TO DISCUSSION. THIS IS TO BASICALLY GIVE YOU AN UPDATE REGARDING THE POTENTIAL OF UPDATING OUR PARKING CODE. OUR EXISTING PARKING CODE. THE CITY CODE RELATED TO PARKING HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED IN I'M NOT SURE EVER, BUT IT'S HAD A FEW AMENDMENTS MADE TO IT AND IT IS NOT VERY CREATIVE AND IT'S VERY SUBURBAN IN NATURE. TYPICALLY IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED TO SUPPORT THE CITY'S MOBILITY PLAN TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ITE MANUAL UPDATES THAT HAVE ALSO OCCURRED OVER TIME THAT ACTUALLY REDUCE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMERCIAL USES AND IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED FOR OTHER GOALS, SUCH AS MANAGING OUR PARKING DEMAND IN THE DOWNTOWN, INCENTIVIZING SUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION LIKE MULTIMODAL FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION, TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ISSUES, SUPPORTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ADDRESSING ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. THE CITY HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY TO DEVELOP A MOBILITY PLAN, AN ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION AND ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS SUCH AS THE SHUTTLING AND REQUIREMENTS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. MORE RECENTLY, WE HAVE ALSO ADOPTED OUR MOBILITY PLAN, UPDATED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND ADOPTED A MOBILITY FEE ORDINANCE. AND THE MOBILITY FEE ORDINANCE IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR MOBILITY OPTIONS AND TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS BASED ON THE IMPACTS OF DEVELOPMENT AND TO ACHIEVE GOALS IN REDUCING TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE. ONE OF THESE NEXT STEPS IS TO UPDATE THE CITY'S EXISTING PARKING CODE. THE CITY HAS INITIATED THIS BY ENGAGING THE SAME MOBILITY CONSULTANT THAT HELPED THE CITY DEVELOP THE CITY'S MOBILITY PLAN. JONATHAN PAUL. IN THE PARKING CODE IS. BECAUSE THE PARKING CODE IS ENFORCED ON A DAILY BASIS THROUGH DEVELOPMENT REVIEW. IF IT IS CONTRARY TO THE CITY'S MOBILITY PLAN, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE THE BENEFITS. AS OUTLINED IN THE PLAN OVER TIME. THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD HAS HELD ONE SPECIAL MEETING IN FEBRUARY ON THIS TOPIC TO BEGIN THE CONVERSATION, AND UPDATING THIS CODE IS AN IMPORTANT NEXT STEP. THE PLANNING BOARD. REALLY, I THINK THROUGH THE DISCUSSION, REALIZED WHAT AN IMPORTANT ISSUE IT IS, AND FOR TRYING TO KEEP THE DOWNTOWN LIVABLE AND FUNCTIONAL AND BALANCE THE INTERESTS OF RESIDENCES, RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND RESILIENCY INTO THE FUTURE. THESE ARE DIFFICULT AND COMPLEX ISSUES. THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED TO COME TODAY AND KIND OF OPEN THIS DISCUSSION WITH YOU, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THOUGHTFULNESS AND CONSIDERATION OF BALANCE IN THE FUTURE. THE PCB RECOGNIZED THIS IMPORTANCE AND ASKED US TO ENCOURAGE AS MUCH PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AS POSSIBLE. SO WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THIS AND WOULD LIKE TO GET AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS WE CAN. THE CITY HAS DEVELOPED A SURVEY THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE STARTING TODAY FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN TAKING THE SURVEY RELATED TO PARKING ISSUES, AND WE WELCOME YOUR INPUT AND OPINIONS. THE SURVEY WILL BE OPEN THROUGH APRIL 16TH AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS SET TO HOLD A SECOND KIND OF SPECIAL MEETING RELATED TO THIS ISSUE ON APRIL 25TH. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT AS PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IN THE SURVEY AND COME FORWARD WITH COMMENTS THAT WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ON APRIL 25TH. I WANT TO STRESS THAT THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S A SENSITIVE ISSUE TO REALLY ALL ALL CITIZENS AND ALL ALL BUSINESSES INVOLVED. AND WE HAVE NO PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS OF ANYTHING THAT WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET GARNER AS MUCH INPUT AS POSSIBLE. AND WE'D LIKE TO UPDATE THE CODE SO THAT WE CAN PROMOTE KIND OF THE CITY'S OVERALL GOALS FOR MOVING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THINGS, I ALSO INCLUDED SOME KIND OF GENERAL INFORMATION [01:10:01] ABOUT MAYBE THE. OVERALL REASONING WHY THERE'S NO PARKING REQUIREMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW. ONE OF THE ISSUES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IS POSSIBLY CREATING OTHER ADDITIONAL AREAS. THAT IS WHERE IT'S DIFFICULT TO PROVIDE PARKING, TO POSSIBLY ELIMINATE PARKING IN THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE ACCESSIBILITY TO TO OTHER OPTIONS FOR PARKING AND KIND OF GET PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR VEHICLES AND USING OTHER FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION, INCLUDING OUR POTENTIAL CIRCULATOR SYSTEM, SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO REDUCE OUR TRAFFIC VOLUME ISSUES AND HOPEFULLY IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE. SO. MS. SKINNER I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH THE PLANNING AND ZONING PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION, WHICH WAS QUITE LONG AND EXTREMELY IN-DEPTH. YES, THERE ARE SOME VERY SERIOUS MATTERS, THE LEAST OF WHICH ARE PARKING MINIMUMS AND MAXIMUMS REQUIREMENTS INSIDE THE DISTRICTS, OUTSIDE THE DISTRICTS, AND AS WELL AS DEALING WITH IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, FLOODING AND THE IMPACTS OF DEVELOPMENT ON PROPERTY, ON PARKING SPACE AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PARKING SPACE. THERE WAS A REALLY INTELLIGENT, GOOD DISCUSSION. AND BUT MY CONCERN IS AND BY THE WAY, AND ALSO ABOUT SHARED PARKING, I THOUGHT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GOT QUITE A BIT OF AGREEMENT ON IS THE NEED TO UPDATE THE CODE SO THAT IT COULD PROVIDE FOR SHARED PARKING, WHICH IT DOESN'T NOW. RIGHT. SO I MEAN, I THINK THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR IT. UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S A LOT TO DISCUSS IN, IN ONE BITE. AND MY QUESTION IS, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD MAYBE BREAK THIS DOWN INTO TO SOMETHING MORE ACHIEVABLE OR MAYBE IN STEPS OVER TIME BECAUSE AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STRUCTURED SO THAT IF YOU DO ONE THING HERE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION OVER THERE. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS WHY IT'S JUST SO MUCH IT CAN CERTAINLY BE BROKEN DOWN INTO SMALLER BITES. WE I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO LOOK AT IT KIND OF HOLISTICALLY AT FIRST SO THEN WE CAN PRIORITIZE CERTAIN ISSUES FOR SURE. LIKE YOU SAID, THE THE SHARED PARKING ISSUE, IT REFERS TO SHARED PARKING, BUT THEN IT SAYS THAT IN OUR CODE THAT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE ENOUGH PARKING FOR ALL THE USES ON THERE. SO IS IT REALLY SHARED? IT'S NOT YOU'RE STILL PROVIDING ALL THE REQUIRED PARKING. THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WE MAY BE AN EASILY ATTAINABLE PIECE WOULD BE TO LOOK AT THE UPDATED IT MANUAL AND OVERALL AND MAYBE LOOK AT OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN GENERAL AND TRY TO BRING THOSE MORE IN LINE WITH THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS THAT EXIST NOW THAT THAT WHERE YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WHEN I SAY OUR CODE IS SUBURBAN IN NATURE, IT REQUIRES PARKING FOR THE BLACK FRIDAY. YOU KNOW, ULTIMATE YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE MAJOR PARKING REQUIREMENTS. THE MAXIMUMS THAT DON'T FUNCTION EVERY DAY, THAT DON'T AREN'T REQUIRED ON EVERY DAY DAILY USAGE. SO THERE ARE CERTAINLY THINGS AND I SEE WHERE MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER HAS MORE COMMENT. PARKING IS AN EVOLVING SCIENCE AND WHEN THIS WAS DEVELOPED, IT WAS IT WAS IN A DIFFERENT PLACE AND WE KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THE ACTUAL USES AND WHAT THEY GENERATE THE TRIP GENERATION MODELS. BUT MR REGAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS? WELL, I THINK YOUR OBSERVATION IS RIGHT. IT IS A BIG TOPIC AND THE REASON THAT WE SCHEDULED THIS TONIGHT IS TO START INTRODUCING THE WORK THAT'S BEING THAT IS TAKING PLACE WITHIN THE PCB TO STAGE UP FOR TAKING ON THIS CHALLENGE. AND IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE A WORKSHOP ON THE TOPIC, WHICH WAS THE SUGGESTION OF COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD, MAYBE THE LAST MEETING. AND SO SO THE IDEA IS TO GET IT INTO A MANAGEABLE, MANAGEABLE LEVEL. SO THIS IS JUST ALMOST THAT KICKOFF, IF YOU WILL. AND IN THAT WORKSHOP, TO REALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION VERY MUCH ABOUT WHAT DO YOU WANT YOUR PARKING CODE TO ACCOMPLISH? YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES LATELY WHERE WE CAN SEE THAT OUR CODE ISN'T NOT NECESSARILY ACCOMPLISHING SOME OF THE GOALS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SO IT'S A BIG TOPIC. COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONERS. MR YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK YOU NEED TO DO BEFORE YOU SOLVE A PROBLEM IS IDENTIFY WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. AND I DID A SURVEY TODAY AND AND THERE WERE. [01:15:04] THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ON THERE THAT KIND OF GENERATED THOUGHT IS WHAT I VIEWED AS THE PROBLEM. BUT WE HAVE SO MANY CUSTOMERS. WE HAVE BUSINESSES AND VISITORS AND EMPLOYEES, AND I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO DIG DOWN TO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM. IS IT REALLY A PARKING PROBLEM OR IS IT GETTING TO WORK PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU CAN SOLVE GETTING TO WORK DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU CAN. PARKING IS ONLY ONE SOLUTION. SO I HOPE THAT I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SURVEY, BUT I HOPE THAT WE CAN DIG FURTHER FOR INFORMATION ABOUT WHO IS HAVING THE PROBLEM AND WHAT DO THEY NEED BEFORE WE JUST THINK THE PARKING IS THE PROBLEM. IT APPEARS TO BE PARKING, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. AND YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE WERE UPDATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SEPARATING USERS. AND, YOU KNOW, IF IF WE HAVE 6 MILLION TOURISTS, YOU KNOW, COMING THROUGH TOWN AND BASED ON THE DATA WE HAVE FROM OUR OUR SHUTTLES, IF THERE'S THREE PEOPLE PER VEHICLE, THEN YOU YOU HAVE IF YOU BUILD A MILLION PARKING SPACES, YOU KNOW, HOW TALL WOULD THAT PARKING GARAGE BE? YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO SEPARATE USERS AND BALANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING TO SAINT AUGUSTINE AND YOU HAVE THIS TRAFFIC ISSUES, IF WE CAN GET PEOPLE, TOURISTS, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST TO USE IT AS A BROAD TERM PARKED ON THE PERIPHERY, EITHER IN PARKING GARAGES OR PARKING LOT, PERIPHERAL PARKING LOTS AND SHUTTLED IN, THEN YOU HOPE YOU REDUCE. THE THEORY IS AND THESE ARE LEAPS OF FAITH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH WE WANT TO HOW MUCH WE CAN TOLERATE AS A COMMUNITY TO MAKE CHANGES. AND IF YOU GET THOSE PEOPLE OFF THE ROAD, THEN HOPEFULLY THAT FREES UP THE ROADS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. AND WE'VE HAD REFERENCES TO AND I WILL LOOK BACK, LOOK AT THE UPDATED DATA, BUT WE KNOW IN 2018 THAT 18% OF THE TRAFFIC THAT DROVE ACROSS THE BRIDGE OF LIONS WAS JUST CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COUNTY THAT DON'T THAT WEREN'T EVEN THEY'RE NOT EVEN STOPPING IN THE CITY. AND I CERTAINLY AM SYMPATHETIC AND I UNDERSTAND ABOUT BUSINESSES NEEDING. THE, SO TO SPEAK, TRAFFIC. BUT YOU WANT THE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR VEHICLES WALKING AROUND TOWN AND ENJOYING SAINT AUGUSTINE AND, YOU KNOW, SPENDING THEIR MONEY. AND IF PEOPLE ARE JUST CUTTING THROUGH, WHAT ARE YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THAT? AND IF YOU HAVE 30,000 VEHICLES GOING ACROSS THE BRIDGE OF LIONS A DAY, 20% OF THAT, YOU HAVE 6000 CARS ARE NOT STOPPING AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP. THEY'RE JUST CUTTING THROUGH, TRYING TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B, RIGHT. SO WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS. AND SOME THINGS MAY TAKE TIME. WE IT TAKES SOME TIME, SOME TIME TO REALIZE THE BENEFIT OF THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE. AND AND WELL, I WILL CONFESS, I'M GONNA CUT THROUGH HER WHEN I GO OUT TO THE BEACH OR GO VISIT MY BROTHER. THE REASON IS 312 IS SO BAD. AND I'D MUCH RATHER HAVE THE PLEASANT TIME IN THE CAR GOING OVER THE BRIDGE THAN SITTING ON THE US ONE. SO I'M GUILTY OF IT. I'LL TRY TO DO BETTER. HOO HOO HOO. PUT OUT THE SURVEY AND WHERE ARE THE RESULTS GOING? AND I THINK ANALYSIS OF SURVEYS IS IS REALLY AN ART. SO I HOPE WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. WE DEVELOPED IT IN HOUSE. WE USE SURVEY MONKEY TO FOR OUR SURVEYS. AND YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT IT AS KIND OF JUST THE INITIAL THE INITIAL KIND OF AS WE GET THE WORD OUT AND GET SOME RESPONSE BACK. AND I ASSUME THAT WE'LL DO OTHER SURVEYS AS WE FINE TUNE SORT OF THE DISCUSSION AND IF WE GET ANY DIRECTION ON WHICH WAY TO GO. SO I KNOW THAT IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY BROAD IN GENERAL, BUT WE WOULD ONCE THE SURVEY IS CLOSED, THEN WE WOULD RECEIVE ALL THE RESULTS AND WE WOULD WE LOOK AT THE RESULTS AND WE'LL BRING THEM TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING ON APRIL 25TH. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, GOOD. UM, COMMISSIONER. BLONDER. YEAH, I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING AND IT'S VERY TIMELY, WHICHEVER WAY YOU APPROACH IT. I THINK THE MAYOR HAD SOME GREAT, YOU KNOW, GREAT FEEDBACK ON BREAKING IT DOWN INTO MANAGEABLE PIECES BECAUSE IT'S HUGE. BUT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ABILITY TO SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENT THE MOBILITY PLAN THAT WE'VE ALL WORKED SO HARD TO TO [01:20:01] PUT INTO PLACE WITHOUT THIS PIECE BEING ADDRESSED IN A SERIOUS WAY. SO I WANT TO ALSO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. I SEE ONE OF THEM IN FRONT OF US FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND GRAPPLING WITH THIS BEFORE IT GETS TO US. SO THANK YOU ALL. YEAH, WONDERFUL. AND I TOO AM REALLY HAPPY THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE. I THINK IT IS A MISSING POINT OR PART OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS. I WAS WONDERING, ARE WE DOING ANY RESEARCH INTO OTHER CITIES AND HOW THEY HANDLED THIS? I THINK I READ SOMETHING. BARCELONA HAS A FEE THAT YOU PAY TO GET TO THE CITY CENTER IF YOU'RE NOT A RESIDENT OR, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST DON'T CUT THROUGH WHAT WHAT YOU ARE A RESIDENT SO YOU COULD CUT THROUGH. BUT BUT SOMEBODY THAT DOES WANT TO PARK AND RIDE, THEY CUT THROUGH. WE COULD GET SOME SOME MONEY. YEAH. WE'RE VERY LIMITED ON OUR ABILITY TO DO THOSE KINDS OF FEES. WE WANT TO HEAR THAT. I KNOW. I KNOW. I KNOW. I KNOW. BUT WE HAVE OTHER INNOVATIVE WAYS TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. WELL, AND I THINK MS. SKINNER LONDON DID TRY THAT, BUT THEY ROLLED IT BACK. LONDON YEAH, BUT I THINK BARCELONA MIGHT BE STILL DOING IT. WE'LL CHECK. BUT ANYWAY. YES. SO INNOVATIVE. UM. LET'S SEE. WELL, CERTAINLY WE'RE OPEN TO ANYTHING. AND WE WILL LOOK IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN PULL. THAT MAKES SENSE. I THINK FLORIDA IS UNIQUE. SO WE HAVE TO SORT OF LOOK AT. I HATE TO SAY THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIMITED TO A CERTAIN EXTENT BY LAW. INNOVATIVE THINGS, YOU KNOW, UM. OKAY. I DON'T. SURE. OKAY. THERE'S TIME TO TO DEVELOP THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'VE GOT THE BROUDIE PROJECT, WHICH IS VERY INNOVATIVE, RIGHT? THE CONCEPT OF POTENTIALLY LINKING US TO RAIL, THAT'S PRETTY INNOVATIVE. TRIED AND TRUE, I SUPPOSE, WOULD BE THOSE PERIPHERAL PARKING LOTS AND PARKING GARAGES WE'RE TRYING TO CIRCULATOR. THAT'S PRETTY INNOVATIVE. I'M TOLD WE TRIED IT IN THE PAST, BUT WE'RE KIND OF HOPING THIS GO ROUND, IT WORKS BETTER. SO YEAH, THERE'S THERE'S FUN STUFF HAPPENING. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER GARRIS, DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS? YES. WHERE CAN PEOPLE GO AND DO THIS SURVEY? THAT'S SOMETHING IN CASE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING, WHERE DO THEY GO AND DO THE SURVEY FOR PARKING? I BELIEVE IT IS ON OUR WEBSITE AND WE HAVE A CERTAIN REFERENCE TO IT. IT'S SURVEY MONKEY. IT CAME OUT IN NEWS AND NOTES. YEAH, IT WAS NEWS AND NOTES ON FRIDAY, I BELIEVE THAT WAS COMING OUT. AND WE JUST SENT OUT A PRESS RELEASE TODAY. UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, CITY MANAGER YOU HAD AN INPUT ON THAT? I THINK WE PROVIDE ACCESS FUNDAMENTALLY ON ALL PLATFORMS, WHETHER IT'S NEWS OR NOTES, BUT ALSO FACEBOOK IS A VERY POPULAR ONE AS WELL. I THINK THAT'S WHERE I FOUND MINE. THANK YOU. I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST, YOU KNOW HOW WHEN THEY SEND YOUR WATER BILL OUT THAT MAYBE A LITTLE NOTATION ABOUT SOMETHING, I WILL I WILL LOOK INTO THAT BOTTOM OF THAT IT IS ON THAT WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY WILL BE CHECKING THEIR BILLS AND THEY WOULD SEE THAT NOTATION. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD RESOURCE. OKAY. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T GO ON COMPUTERS. A LOT OF THE OLDER PEOPLE DON'T UTILIZE COMPUTERS. BUT IF THEY SEE THAT, THEY COULD ASK THEIR SOMEONE TO ASSIST THEM WITH THAT. OKAY, WE'LL GET THE WORD OUT MORE AND WE'LL GET MORE INPUT. ALL RIGHT. I WILL LOOK INTO THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I HAVE ONE LAST COMMENT MYSELF. WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE TO START THIS, SINCE IT'S ALL FOCUSED AROUND AND I ASSUME THAT THIS IS PROBABLY PART OF THE PROCESS. BUT WHAT I DIDN'T SEE IN THE PRESENTATION WAS AN UPDATED PARKING INVENTORY SO THAT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTAND THE ON STREET, OFF STREET GARAGES AND WHAT'S PROPOSED, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. I THINK THAT MIGHT REALLY HELP. OKAY. LAY GET GET THE DATA DOWN FIRST AND THEN MOVE ON FROM THERE. BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PROCESS. I'M CERTAINLY VERY I THINK IT'S TIME. SO. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. AND THE NEXT PRESENTATION WE HAVE IS CITIZEN AWARD PROCEDURES. [10.C. Citizen Awards Procedures Overview (M. Wissel, Communications Director)] OVERVIEW. YES. WHISTLE YOU ARE. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. COMMISSIONERS MELISSA WISSEL, CITY COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. DURING OUR COMMUNICATIONS PRESENTATION AT THE LAST MEETING, I BELIEVE IT WAS COMMISSIONER BLONDER WHO HAD ASKED ABOUT AN UPDATE OR MAYBE IT WAS THE MEETING SINCE THEN. BUT AT OUR LAST MEETING YOU HAD ASKED FOR AN UPDATE OR A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW OF OUR PROCESS OF NOMINATING AND SELECTING. OUR CITIZEN AWARD RECIPIENTS. AND I DID ADD SOMETHING TO YOUR INFORMATION ON YOUR TABLES BEFORE WE STARTED THE MEETING. AND THAT WAS JUST SORT OF A SYNOPSIS IN A TABLE FORMAT OF THE AWARD SCHEDULE. SO AS IT STANDS, JUST TO PUT US ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, WE HAVE FOUR CITIZEN AWARDS. [01:25:01] ONE IS THE CITIZENSHIP AWARDS, ADELAIDE SANCHEZ AWARD, AS WELL AS THE ORDER OF LA FLORIDA AND THE DAVILA'S AWARD. EACH AWARD HAS CERTAIN CRITERIA AND THEY ARE SCHEDULED TO BE AWARDED AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR, COINCIDING WITH USUALLY MOMENTS IN HISTORY AND WON. THE DIABELLI'S AWARD, FOR EXAMPLE, IS IN FEBRUARY AROUND THE FOUNDERS DAY OF PEDRO MENENDEZ. BIRTHDAY ORDER OF LA, FLORIDA IS IN SEPTEMBER, AROUND THE TIME OF THE FOUNDING OF OUR CITY. AND MAY IS THE ADELAIDE SANCHEZ AWARD IN COINCIDING WITH. HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH. COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD ALSO RAISED THE QUESTION OF GETTING INFORMATION ABOUT CANDIDATES OR NOMINEES FURTHER IN ADVANCE WITH INFORMATION ABOUT THE NOMINEES SO THAT YOU ALL WOULD HAVE TIME TO REVIEW AND UNDERSTAND WHO THOSE FOLKS WERE. MY RECOMMENDATION. TO YOU ALL FOR DISCUSSION, OF COURSE, IS THAT WE KEEP THE SCHEDULE THE WAY THAT IT CURRENTLY STANDS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT SCHEDULE AND THE PRESENTATION TIMING IS. FINE. I DO AGREE THAT HAVING ADVANCED INFORMATION ON THOSE CANDIDATES GIVES YOU ALL THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW WHO THEY ARE. IT ALSO PROVIDES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY, IF YOU SO CHOOSE, TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, TO TALK ABOUT THE PERSON THAT YOU'RE NOMINATING. CURRENTLY, IT SITS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO THERE ISN'T A CONVERSATION UNLESS SOMEONE PULLS THAT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE MOVING FORWARD. ONE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, IF SOMEONE WERE TO MAKE A NOMINATION, LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, WELL IN ADVANCE OF WHEN THE NOMINATION WAS TO BE PUT OUT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WOULD ALSO PROMPT PERHAPS ANOTHER COMMISSIONER TO SAY, OH, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS COMING, OR, OH, I WAS THINKING OF SOMEONE AS WELL. SO YOU COULD REALLY MAKE IT A DISCUSSION OF MAYBE CHOOSING AMONG TWO POTENTIAL NOMINEES, POSSIBLY HAVING A CONVERSATION AMONGST YOURSELVES TO RECOMMEND SOMEONE FOR A DIFFERENT AWARD. PERHAPS SO. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SUMMARY OF THE CITIZEN AWARDS, HOW IT WORKS. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING DOCUMENTED IN THE RESOLUTION ABOUT OUR PROCESS INTERNALLY. SO I THINK SOME OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE TO DO WITH OUR PROCESS INTERNALLY AND OUR CHECKLIST. BUT I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS AND ENCOURAGE THE CONVERSATION AMONG YOU. COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS, QUESTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS ARE SELF-EXPLANATORY. THE ARE YOU? SO WE'RE LOOKING AT. RESOLUTION 2022, DASH 11. BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MAKING SOME CHANGES, RIGHT. AND INCLUDING THE THE THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION. I THINK THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION COULD BE SOMETHING. I THINK IN THE RESOLUTION IT COULD BE THAT WHEN A NOMINATION IS MADE, THERE COULD BE A SENTENCE IN THE RESOLUTION THAT INFORMATION BE PROVIDED. YEAH, IT DOESN'T GET IT DOESN'T GET NOTIFICATION AND. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE ASKING FOR A MODIFICATION OF THIS OF THIS RESOLUTION, RIGHT? AND ALSO THE FACT, WELL, MAYBE I'M GETTING THIS WRONG, BUT ALSO IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IT THAT'S THE PROCEDURE IS WE HAVE IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA NOW. CORRECT. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NOT HAVING IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. CORRECT. SO I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHETHER THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT IS IN NEED OF SOME MODIFICATION, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED. CORRECT. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT. YOU WANTED TO KNOW. YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT. SO I'M PRESENTING. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT, IS LIKE, WHAT ACTION DO WE TAKE HERE? SO THE ACTION COULD BE SO THE ACTION COULD BE TO CHANGE THE RESOLUTION THAT STATES THAT BACKUP MATERIAL, A BIOGRAPHY WOULD BE PROVIDED OR A SYNOPSIS OF THE PERSON'S QUALIFICATIONS. NOT JUST THAT A COMMISSIONER WROTE A NOTE, YOU KNOW, SUBMITTED A MEMO THAT SAID, I WANT TO NOMINATE THIS PERSON, AND THEY QUALIFY BECAUSE I'VE KNOWN THEM FOR 30 YEARS. WELL, BUT I THINK IT ALREADY SAYS THAT, THOUGH, IF YOU LOOK AT A1, IT SAID IT SAYS MADE BY A MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION, FILED WITH THE CITY MANAGER IN WRITING AND INCLUDE NOMINEE'S NAME, ADDRESS, AGE AND BIOGRAPHICAL BACKGROUND SHOWING QUALIFICATIONS. IT DOES, BUT THEN IT DOES ALSO INCLUDE THAT IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO CORRECT. I'M JUST PERHAPS IF YOU JUST GAVE MS. WHISTLE SOME BROAD GUIDANCE ON WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH AMENDMENTS AS NEEDED. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING IS IF WE'RE. WELL, I THINK IT WAS ALSO TO HAVE AN OPEN CONVERSATION SO THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS COULD SPEAK AND ADDRESS THE RESOLUTION AS IT STANDS. AND IT COULD JUST BE A MATTER OF TIGHTENING UP. [01:30:02] I THINK THERE WAS. I THINK HISTORICALLY SOMEONE WOULD NOMINATE SOMEONE AND WE DIDN'T GET THAT. AND SO MAYBE PART OF THIS IS NEW FOR ME BEING IN THE POSITION. NOT NEW IN THE POSITION, BUT NEW TO DOING THE AWARDS THAT I PROBABLY THE FIRST FEW AWARDS I GOT WAS SIMPLY. A COMMISSIONER NOMINATED SOMEONE AND WE DIDN'T FOLLOW OUR OWN RULES, FOR LACK OF I MEAN, JUST TO CALL IT WHAT IT IS, WE WEREN'T REALLY FOLLOWING OUR OWN RULES. ALSO, THOUGH, I THINK THE TIMELINE AS IT STANDS, BUT I THINK TO COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD'S REQUEST AND AS ISABELLE SAID, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO FOLLOW OUR RULES A LITTLE MORE OPENLY. I WANTED YOU ALL TO HAVE A CONVERSATION IF YOU FELT LIKE YOU WANTED TO. OTHERWISE, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT IF THIS IS THE PLACE TO TALK ABOUT IT. MR REGAN YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY OR ADD? WELL, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK WE NEED TO MODIFY THE RESOLUTION. THE CONSENT AGENDA IS AN OBVIOUS CHANGE. BUT IF YOU JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS ABOUT THE AWARD PROCESS THAT YOU LIKE OR DON'T LIKE, THAT'LL GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE ON HOW TO MODIFY THE RESOLUTION, WHICH I THINK WAS THE POINT OF MRS MS. LOPEZ AND JUST FOR REMINDER, I DON'T BELIEVE IT ACTUALLY SAYS THAT IT GOES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT JUST SAYS THAT IT GOES ON AN AGENDA. THE CITIZENSHIP AWARDS ARE THOSE FOR THE KIDDOS, THE YOUNG PEOPLE FROM VARIOUS HIGH SCHOOLS, AND THAT DOES GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. BUT AGAIN, DON'T FEEL RESTRICTED BY WHAT'S ON THE RESOLUTION. WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK, I THINK, OF HOW DO YOU VISUALIZE THIS PROCESS OCCURRING? AND THEN IF WE CAN GET THAT CONSENSUS FROM YOU, IF WE NEED TO CHANGE SOMETHING, WE WILL AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU. AND IF WE DON'T, WE JUST TAKE THE GUIDANCE AND FOLLOW IT MORE CLOSELY. THANK YOU. WE'VE HAD THREE STAFF MEMBERS RECOMMEND US TO US TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING BACK AND FORTH TO ONE ANOTHER. SO I THINK THAT IS ANYONE READY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE RECOMMENDATION AND NOT A BROAD RECOMMENDATION, BUT I HAVE TROUBLE KEEPING TRACK OF MY OWN CALENDAR ON A DAILY BASIS. AND SO IF WE COULD HAVE SOME REGULAR NOTIFICATION IN ADVANCE OF NOMINATIONS FOR EACH OF THESE AWARDS, GIVEN THE SCHEDULE THAT YOU'VE PROPOSED HERE. OH, BY THE WAY, FOR EXAMPLE, MS. WITZEL COULD SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND SAY IT'S JANUARY AND IN FEBRUARY, THE CITIZENSHIP AWARDS, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T DO THAT ONE, SORRY, THAT'S A BAD ONE. THAT'S THE FIRST ONE ON THE LIST HERE. IT'S IT'S IT'S JANUARY AND THE ADELAIDE SANCHEZ AWARD NOMINATION IS DUE IN FEBRUARY. IF WE COULD HAVE THAT AS A REGULAR REMINDER, THEN WE MIGHT GET MORE THAN ONE NOMINATION AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE BACKGROUND MATERIALS AND WE COULD REVIEW THOSE ON THE FLOOR. YES, I CAN CERTAINLY SEND THE CALENDAR. I THINK YOU ALL KNOW I'VE BECOME A VERY BIG FAN OF THE CALENDAR REMINDERS, AND MAYBE THAT GOES SEND AN EMAIL. SURE. BUT I MEAN, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD FORMALIZE AS A MODIFICATION IF WE CHOOSE TO MODIFY THIS BECAUSE WE WANT WE ALL WANT TO MAKE NOMINATIONS, BUT IT'S KIND OF FALLEN SO THAT WELL, AND IT WOULD BE FUN TO HAVE IN THE PAST. IT WOULD BE FUN TO BEING THE ONE WHO ALWAYS MAKES THE NOMINATIONS. AND FOR YEARS I BACKED OFF AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY. SO I THINK WE DO NEED TO CHANGE SOMETHING SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE REMINDED OR REMEMBER TO YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER BLONDER, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO ALSO PUT IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND IN THE MEETING AND THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD FORMAT? I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR IT. I DON'T. WHAT DID YOU WANT TO PUT ON? THAT'S WHAT THE CONSENT AGENDA IS FOR. OKAY. SO I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD RECOMMENDATION. ARE THERE ANY MORE RECOMMENDATIONS? NO, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT HAPPENS NOW IN THE PROCESS IF TWO PEOPLE ARE NOMINATED? FOR THE SAME AWARD? IT DEPENDS ON THE AWARD. IN THE PAST, THE TWO APPLICANTS WERE DISCUSSED AND IT CREATES A VERY AWKWARD SITUATION, CORRECT? YEAH. YEAH, AND IT HAS IN THE PAST. SO. SO, SO I THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD. JUST REMINDERS FOR US ON WHEN THE PERIOD IS OPEN. I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING ON YOUR CITIZENSHIP AWARDS NOW, SO, UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? NO, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. UM, WE ARE GOING TO KEEP MOVING. [10.D. Review of final approval of submerged land lease at 110 Carver Street East (St. Augustine Yacht Club Sailing Center). (D. Birchim, Assistant City Manager)] ITEM TEN D IS THE REVIEW AND FINAL APPROVAL OF THE SUBMERGED LAND LEASE AT 110 CARVER STREET EAST MR. BIRCHIM. YOU ARE WELCOME TO PRESENT. UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. TONIGHT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE SUBMERGED LAND LEASE FOR THE YACHT CLUB SAILING CENTER. AS YOU RECALL, IN JULY OF LAST YEAR, YOU APPROVED THE GROUND LEASE FOR THE SAILING CENTER. [01:35:05] A CONDITION OF THAT WAS THAT THE SUBMERGED LAND LEASE WOULD COME BACK FOR FINAL APPROVAL BEFORE THE COMMISSION. ALL DOCS HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY OUR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. IF ON THE OVERHEAD YOU'LL SEE THE EXHIBIT TO THE GROUND LEASE THAT YOU APPROVED, THE COMMISSION APPROVED BACK IN JULY. THAT'S THE DESIGN THAT IS IDENTIFIED IN THE GROUND LEASE. OKAY. ON MARCH 7TH. THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD APPROVED A DOCK. OF THE IDENTICAL DESIGN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. PREVIOUSLY. THE DOCK ITSELF IS LOCATED IN THE SAME LOCATION AS THE PREVIOUS DOCK. THE PLANNING BOARD ALSO RECEIVED A CULTURAL RESOURCE ASSESSMENT BY AN UNDERWATER ARCHEOLOGIST FIRM CALLED LAMP. TO DETERMINE IF THERE WERE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS. TO A SITE TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS THE SITE WHERE THE HISTORIC WATCHTOWER OR FIRST LIGHTHOUSE WAS LOCATED. THOSE. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S COMING UP TOO WELL, BUT THOSE THOSE BLACK CIRCLES ARE WHERE THEY THEY FOUND POTENTIAL BRICK OR COQUINA UNDERNEATH THE LAYER OF THE SILT. AND THIS IS THE. AREA TO THE SOUTH WHERE THE OLD WATCHTOWER WAS LOCATED. AND THE. ARCHEOLOGISTS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED EXPANSION OF THE DOCK BY ADDING PILINGS AND A FLOATING PLATFORM WOULD NOT IMPACT THE SITE, AS VIRTUALLY NO BURIED STRUCTURAL REMAINS WERE FOUND IN OR NEAR THE FOOTPRINT. SO COMPLETING THE ARCHEOLOGICAL SURVEY WAS IMPORTANT FOR PCB AND THAT WAS COMPLETED. I'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT WHEN THE GROUND LEASE WAS APPROVED, THE CITY COMMISSION DID PLACE LIMITATIONS ON THE USE OF THE DOCK. YOU. THE DOCK WAS TO BE LOCATED IN THE SAME LOCATION AS THE PREVIOUS DOCK. THAT WAS DONE CORRECTLY. IT WILL INCLUDE A FLOATING PLATFORM. AND. THERE IS THE FLOATING PLATFORM. NO SAILING CLUB MEMBER OR GUEST OR THIRD PARTY MAY MOOR HIS OR HER BOAT OVERNIGHT AT THE DOCK. THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS YOU PLACED EARLIER. YOU REITERATED THAT AGAIN IN THE LEASE TO GO ON TO SAY THAT YOU PROHIBIT OVERNIGHT MOORINGS OF VESSELS NOT OWNED BY THE SAILING CENTER. SO THAT WAS DONE. YOU REITERATED THAT SAME CONDITION TWICE. YOU LIMITED THE SAILING CENTER TO A MAXIMUM OF 50 VESSELS ON THE LEASED PREMISES AND THE DOCK. SO THAT'S THE UPLANDS AND THE DOCK AND TOTALITY. AND YOU PROHIBITED SUBLEASING OF SLIPS ON THE DOCKS FOR VESSELS NOT INVOLVED IN THE OPERATION OF THE SAILING CENTER. SO TONIGHT YOU ARE WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THE FINAL SUBMERGED LAND LEASE. SUBMERGED LAND LEASES ARE EXECUTED BY THE CITY FOR DOCKS THAT ARE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH A RESIDENTIAL USE. TYPICALLY, THOSE ARE COMMERCIAL MARINAS. AND WITH THE COMMERCIAL MARINA. WHAT WE DO IS WE DRAW WE DETERMINE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE MARINA ITSELF. WE MULTIPLY THAT BY 17.5, 17.5 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT. AND WE ADD A $525 ANNUAL SURCHARGE ON TOP OF THAT, AND THAT IS AN ANNUAL FEE FOR THE SUBMERGED LANDS. WITH THIS STOCK. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT RIGHT HERE. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF PROPERTY THAT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT OF THE DOCK THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THEIR PROPERTY RIGHT THERE. SO I COULDN'T PRECISELY DETERMINE WHAT THAT FEE WOULD BE. BUT IT'S AROUND $1,250 PER YEAR IF WE WERE TO USE THE FORMULA THAT WE USE FOR COMMERCIAL MARINAS. THIS STOCK IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT A COMMERCIAL USE. AS YOU KNOW, THE YACHT CLUB IS A NOT FOR PROFIT. AND I COULD ONLY THINK OF ONE OTHER PAST INSTANCE WHERE A NOT FOR PROFIT BUILT A DOCK. AND IT WAS THE RIVER HOUSE, THE COUNCIL ON AGING FACILITY AT THE END OF MARINE STREET. THEY HAVE A LITTLE PLATFORM BEHIND THE RIVER HOUSE THAT THEY USE FOR EVENTS. WE DO NOT CHARGE A LEASE FOR THEM FOR THEIR SUBMERGED LAND LEASE. SO TONIGHT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHARGE THEM FOR A LEASE OR NOT. [01:40:01] WE COULD ALWAYS ASK FOR INDEMNIFICATION OF LIABILITY. WE COULD ASK FOR OWNERS AND RENTERS INSURANCE OR LANDLORD AND TENANT INSURANCE. WHICH SIMPLY PROVIDES FOR. LIABILITY INSURANCE TO COVER THE CITY IF THERE'S SOMEONE GETS HURT ON THE DOCK. WE DO THAT TYPICALLY WITH SUBMERGED LAND LEASES. IT'S AN INSURANCE POLICY. I'M. REPRESENTATIVES OF THE YACHT CLUB ARE IN THE AUDIENCE IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK THEM ANY QUESTIONS, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. DOES THIS DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE A LANDLORD TENANT INSURANCE OR A LIABILITY INSURANCE. THE LEASE THAT WE USE, THE TEMPLATE THAT I GAVE YOU IN YOUR PACKET INCLUDES THAT. SO IF YOU WANTED THEM TO FILL THAT OUT, YOU COULD MAKE THEM HAVE A LEASE WITH A DOLLAR A YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO PROVIDE INSURANCE. THAT'S ONE OF YOUR OPTIONS. I SEE. I WOULD HAVE TO BE TIED TO THE LEASE OR I'M SURE YOUR ATTORNEY COULD WE COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY FOR THEM TO JUST GIVE US AN INSURANCE POLICY FOR THAT ALSO WITHOUT THE LEASE. OKAY. AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION CONCERNING LIABILITY INSURANCE, I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU OBTAIN SOME SORT OF LIABILITY COVERAGE. YES. THANK YOU FOR THAT GUIDANCE. SO. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US. FIND A WAY. DO YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS OUTSIDE OF A DOLLAR A YEAR LEASE OR A DOLLAR? AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT THAT YOU CHOOSE TO CHARGE THEM, THAT'S REALLY AT YOUR DISCRETION. BUT I WOULD I WOULD IS THE EASIEST WAY. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THE EASIEST WAY JUST TO TIE IT TO A LEASE OR. YES, THE FEE CHARGE IS ALL PART OF THE LEASE. SO THE TEMPLATE INCLUDES STANDARDIZED PROOF OF INSURANCE. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU KEEP THAT. AND THE ONLY REALLY TO ME INFLECTION POINT OF WHERE YOU HAVE TO MAKE A JUDGMENT CALL, I SUPPOSE, IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO CHARGE THEM FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE DOCK UNLESS MR. BIRCHIM HAS A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW. BUT MY MY SUGGESTION IS YOU STICK TO THE SAME INSURANCE COVERAGE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE BECAUSE FRANKLY, LITTLE KIDDOS LEARNING TO SAIL MIGHT BE A LIABILITY. BUT BUT WHAT YOU COULD BECAUSE IT IS A NON PROFIT WHAT YOU COULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS PERHAPS A REDUCED OR NO FEE FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. IS THAT ESSENTIALLY WHERE YOU WERE GOING? MR. BIRCHIM YES, THAT THAT WOULD BE THE SIMPLEST THING TO DO. AND IF YOU IF YOU SEE THE THE TEMPLATE FOR THE SUBMERGED LAND LEASE, THAT INCLUDES WHAT THEIR LIABILITY INSURANCE IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE, IT'S A AT LEAST $100,000 FOR INDIVIDUAL COVERAGE AND AT LEAST $300,000 IN COVERAGE WHERE I GOT OFF A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE TRACK, A LITTLE BIT TRACK THERE. SO SO IT'S WE WILL IT WILL BE REQUIRED NO MATTER WHAT. UNLESS YOU TELL US OTHERWISE. MY RECOMMENDATION IS YOU KEEP THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENT AND THEN MAKE A MAKE A CALL ON WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE THEM FOR THE LEASE, FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. OKAY. VICE MAYOR HORVATH, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. DO WE HAVE ASSURANCE THAT THIS WOULD NEVER CHANGE FROM A NON PROFIT TO A PROFIT MAKING YACHT CLUB? I MEAN, THAT IS THAT IS IDENTIFIED IN THEIR GROUND LEASE. THEY ARE IDENTIFIED AS A NOT FOR PROFIT IN THEIR GROUND LEASE. AND IF THAT EVER CHANGED, THEY'D HAVE TO KNOW, NOTIFY US. I MEAN IF THEY SOLD IT TO SOMEBODY OR THEY. YES. ANY CHANGE TO THE LEASE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. AND. THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE A CHANGE THAT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. DOC IS TIED INTO THE GROUND LEASE, SO AND YOU'RE VERY SPECIFIC IN THE GROUND LEASE THAT THEY CANNOT USE THIS COMMERCIALLY FOR ANY OTHER USE OTHER THAN THE THE SAILING CENTER PROGRAM. PERFECT. BUT THEN MY POSITION ON IT IS, YES, LIABILITY. AND I DON'T SEE ANY, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY COMING TO THE CITY. SO I'D SAY SINCE THEIR NON PROFIT, $1 LEASE OR ZERO, THAT WOULD BE ON IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SUGGESTIONS? YES. YEAH, I'M YEAH, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THEM HAVING THIS DOCK. YOU CAN'T RUN THIS CAMP WITHOUT WITHOUT THE DOC. I'M ACTUALLY NOT IN FAVOR OF REDUCING THE FEE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE OF THE PRECEDENT IT SETS FOR SOMEBODY TO CREATE A NON PROFIT IN ORDER TO RUN A PROGRAM OFF OF A DOC. SO I'M JUST MORE INCLINED TO EITHER REDUCE IT SOME OR SET A PRECEDENT. THEN ON THE FEE WOULD BE FOR A NON PROFIT. BUT THEY'RE A FEE BASED BUSINESS. THE NON PROFIT IS THEY CHARGE A FEE FOR THESE STUDENTS AND ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND THEY DO HAVE SOME SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAMS FOR THAT, BUT I THINK THEY COULD THEY [01:45:06] COULD THEY COULD FUND THIS $1,200 A YEAR PERSONALLY. SO. ALL RIGHT, MR. BLONDER. IT'S KIND OF. YES, I'M TOYING. I'M. I'M ACTUALLY PROPOSALS. YEAH. I'M ACTUALLY TOYING WITH INTRODUCING EMOTIONS. SO I THINK I'M I AM IN FAVOR OF THE YACHT CLUBS PROGRAM, THE SAILING PROGRAM NOW THEY'VE REACHED OUT AND ARE INCLUDING FLAGLER COLLEGE IN A IN A SAILING CLUB WHICH I THINK IS A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP BRINGING ACTUALLY SOME OF THE SAILORS IN THE SAILING CLUB ARE NATIONALLY COMPETITIVE AND EVEN INTERNATIONALLY COMPETITIVE. AT LEAST THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST. SO THEY BRING ANOTHER RICHNESS TO THE SAILING COMMUNITY. SO I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE A MOTION. IF IT GETS A SECOND, THAT'S FINE. WHATEVER WE CAN WE CAN DISAGREE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE A MOTION TO REQUIRE A CITY SUBMERGED LANDS LEASE WITH A MINIMAL FEE OF $1 ANNUALLY AND INCLUDE THE TEMPLATE THAT IS IN OUR PACKAGE THAT INCLUDES INDEMNIFICATION OF LIABILITY TO THE CITY. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION. DEBATE? YES. IS THAT THE SAME THING IN THIS? IS THAT THE SAME THING THAT'S IN THIS MEMORANDUM? I THINK THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT IS THE DOLLAR. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S A BLANK SPOT. SO IT'S IT'S REALLY COMING DOWN TO A DOLLAR OR THE ESTIMATED WHICH WE THINK THINK IT WOULD BE AROUND 1250. YES, MA'AM. A YEAR. SO, YES, WE'RE WATCHING A LOT OF BASKETBALL THESE DAYS. AND I PLAYED BASKETBALL IN COLLEGE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO REMIND THE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS IS NO MATTER WHEN WE DISAGREE, WHEN THIS COMMISSION MAKES AN AGREEMENT. THAT PERSONALLY, I WILL SUPPORT IT 100%. THAT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SAY OUT LOUD, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOME TOUGH ISSUES COMING UP AND WE'RE GOING TO DISAGREE. YEAH. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT'S WONDERFUL. I APPRECIATE THAT, TOO. UM, I CONSIDER THIS THIS REDUCING THIS FEE AS OUR SUPPORT OF SCHOLARSHIP FOR SOME NEEDED CHILDREN TO LEARN. YEAH. AND AGAIN I, I FALL ON THE SIDE OF THE DOLLAR ANNUALLY JUST BECAUSE THIS IS A NON PROFIT AND IT'S AN AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S DOING WONDERFUL THINGS FOR OUR CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I DON'T FEEL THE HEARTBURN ABOUT SETTING PRECEDENT JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT IS OUR JOB. WE DO ANALYZE THINGS AND TAKE THINGS UP ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. SO I DON'T HAVE THAT HEARTBURN. BUT SO I WILL SUPPORT COMMISSIONER BLINDER'S MOTION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I, I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT THAT I JUST REALIZED WHEN COMMISSIONER VICE MAYOR HORVATH MADE THAT POINT, WE WENT AROUND AND AROUND ABOUT THE SCHOLARSHIPS AND ABOUT INCREASING THE THE RECRUITMENT OF MORE DIVERSE CAMPERS. AND SO I WOULD VERY MUCH ENCOURAGE THE YACHT CLUB SAILING SCHOOL TO TO TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT A DIVERSITY SCHOLARSHIP LIKE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, THAT 150 THAT THEY WOULD OTHERWISE BE PAYING TO THE CITY, MAKE THAT A DIVERSITY SCHOLARSHIP FOR A CAMPERS WHO ARE IN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES OR MINORITY. I LIKE THAT IDEA. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. BARBARA BLONDER. YES. ROXANNE HORVATH. YES. CYNTHIA GARRIS. YES. JIM SPRINGFIELD. YES. NANCY SIKES-KLINE. YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THEN. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. MR. BIRCHIM. ITEM 11 ITEMS BY CITY ATTORNEY, MADAM. [11.A. Legislative Update. (For Informational Purposes - No Presentation) (I. Lopez, City Attorney)] VERY QUICK UPDATE. WE WERE ON A STRATEGIC CALL WITH OUR WONDERFUL LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANT, LINA JUAREZ, ON FRIDAY, AND WE HAVE A STRATEGY AND NOW DRAFT AMENDMENTS TO BOTH HOUSE BILL 1317, WHICH WAS THE DEMOLITION BILL THAT WE WERE ALL VERY CONCERNED ABOUT. AND SO THAT'S BEEN DRAFTED. OUR DIRECTION HAD BEEN THAT STRATEGICALLY JUST OPPOSING PROPOSED BILLS WOULD NOT BE PARTICULARLY FRUITFUL AND INSTEAD WE SHOULD PROVIDE A FORMAL AMENDMENT TO A PROPOSED BILL. SO WE'RE TRYING TO NEUTRALIZE THE BAD ASPECTS, YET STILL SHOW SUPPORT FOR THE CONCEPT THAT THE LEGISLATURE LEGISLATOR BROUGHT FORWARD. [01:50:08] SO WE'VE GOT ONE FOR HOUSE BILL 1317. I JUST FINISHED THIS AFTERNOON AN AMENDMENT FOR SENATE BILL 1018 AND THAT'S THE ONE WITH THE FREE BOARD RULE. THAT GENERALLY IS A WONDERFUL CONCEPT. HOWEVER, IT WOULD ALLOW STRUCTURES TO BE RAISED 4 TO 9FT, WHICH COULD SUBSTANTIALLY AFFECT OUR HISTORIC STREETSCAPE, AS YOU CAN WELL IMAGINE. UM, SO AND THAT'S A FREE BOARD, RIGHT? IT'S NOT JUST RAISE IT TO BE OUTSIDE THE FLOODPLAIN. IT'S AN ADDITIONAL FOUR FEET OF FREE BOARD AND UP TO NINE FEET IN COASTAL HIGH HAZARD. SO I'VE GOT A DRAFT AMENDMENT TO THAT BILL AS WELL AND I'VE SENT THAT AND WE'VE GOT WONDERFUL PARTNERS. AS YOU'LL RECALL, OUR FORMER HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLANNER, JENNY WOLF, IS NOW WITH THE STATE AND SHE'S GOT A COPY OF MY AMENDMENTS AND SHE IS ACTUALLY MEETING UP WITH LINA TO CHAT WITH THE BILL SPONSOR FOR HOUSE BILL 1317 TOMORROW. UM, IT IS GOING TO COMMITTEE ON WEDNESDAY. AND SO WE HOPE THAT WE'VE JUST HIT THIS JUST SO THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THE AMENDMENT PLACED. THE ONLY OTHER ITEM WE HAD, I BELIEVE IT WAS MAYBE IT WAS THURSDAY OR FRIDAY. I'M LOSING TRACK OF MY DAYS NOW. THERE WAS A UTILITY BILL THAT WE ARE STILL INVESTIGATING THE POTENTIAL IMPACT. IT HAD SORT OF A COMPLICATED MATHEMATICAL FORMULA ON HOW MUCH WE COULD CHARGE FOLKS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS FOR WATER, SEWER. AND SO WE'RE SORT OF ABSORBING, I BELIEVE, THE FOLKS BEHIND ME THAT HAVE CPA DEGREES ARE ARE FIGURING OUT WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF OF THAT WILL BE AND WE'LL TAKE ACTION STEPS IF NEEDED. SO THOSE WERE THE BIGGIES FROM BASICALLY UP UNTIL LAST WEEK. I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. MAYOR. MS. MAYOR, UM, THE BILL THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WHERE THEY COULD SUE US. YOU KNOW THE BUSINESS, BILL? YES. WHERE ARE. WHERE IS THAT? UH, ALL RIGHT. THIS ONE IS POLITICALLY TRICKY. IT IS MOVING FORWARD. IT UNFORTUNATELY HAS THE SUPPORT, I BELIEVE, FORMERLY OF THE LEAGUE, OR AT LEAST THE NEUTRALITY. MAYBE THAT'S THE BETTER TERM TO SAY IS THE NEUTRALITY OF THE LEAGUE. AND I CAN SEE YOUR YOUR CONCERN. THE REASON FOR THAT IS YOU'LL RECALL THE BILL THAT WAS FILED THIS YEAR IS IDENTICAL TO LAST YEAR'S BILL THAT WAS VETOED. RIGHT. AND AT THAT TIME, WE WERE ALL IN AGREEMENT AMONGST LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT THIS WAS A DIFFICULT BILL. IT WOULD CREATE A NEW CAUSE OF ACTION TO SUE CITIES. IF IF YOU FELT THAT A REGULATION OF THE CITY IMPACTED YOUR BUSINESS. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE TO DO THAT FINANCIAL ANALYSIS WITH EVERY PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT WE PASS. AND THEN THAT OPENS THE DOOR FOR FOLKS TO SUE US. SO THAT WAS, IN ESSENCE, WHAT THE BILL WAS LAST YEAR. IT BEGAN THAT WAY THIS YEAR. AND THEN THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE BILL TO ADDRESS A COURT CASE THAT HAD UNFORTUNATE RIPPLES IN FLORIDA. SO THIS IS WHAT THE COURT CASE DID, THE COURT CASE DETERMINED AND THIS WAS ABOUT, I'M GOING TO SAY A MONTH AGO OR SO, THE COURT CASE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE ORDINANCES THAT ARE ON SECOND READING HERE AT THE CITY, WE ALWAYS ADVERTISE THEM IN THE NEWSPAPER. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE TO PLACE AN AD IN THE NEWSPAPER BEFORE OUR SECOND READING. WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY CAUTIOUS THAT IF YOU ALL DON'T VOTE ON IT ON SECOND READING AND YOU SAY, WE WANT TO CONSIDER THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER, IF WE BRING IT BACK TO A THIRD READING OR A FOURTH READING, WE RE-ADVERTISE THOSE ORDINANCES. WELL, APPARENTLY WE ARE A BIT OF AN ANOMALY. MANY OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WERE NOT RE-ADVERTISING PAST THE FIRST OR THE SECOND, THE OFFICIAL SECOND READING. SO IF THEY BROUGHT IT BACK OR CONTINUED AN ORDINANCE, THEY WOULDN'T RE-ADVERTISE IT. WELL, THE COURT CASE DETERMINED THAT THAT VOIDED THOSE ORDINANCES. SO JUST CAST YOUR MIND'S EYE BACK TO HOW MANY IN THE RECENT PAST, HOW MANY OF THOSE TYPES OF ORDINANCES MAY BE IN TO OUR FRIENDS IN SOUTH FLORIDA THAT MIGHT HAVE AFFECTED. AND SO IT CAUSED THIS GIANT RIPPLE PANIC EFFECT AMONGST SOME LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. BUT A LOT OF DEVELOPERS WHO HAD VERY, VERY BIG PROJECTS APPROVED THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF NOT RE-ADVERTISING FOR A THIRD OR FOURTH READING. SO AN ODD COMBINATION COALITION WAS CREATED OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT LAWYERS, SOME LOCAL GOVERNMENT LAWYERS, [01:55:10] SOME FOLKS AT THE LEAGUE AND SOME DEVELOPERS TO PUT FORTH AN AMENDMENT TO THAT STATUTE TO SAY IT'S ALL RIGHT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO RE ADVERTISE IN THE NEWSPAPER IF YOU'VE ADVERTISED THE FIRST TIME. SO WE'D ALL AGREE, FINE. THAT'S A LOVELY PIECE OF LEGISLATION. THE PROBLEM IS IT WAS ADDED TO THE BILL, THE LOCAL ORDINANCE BILL THAT CREATES A CAUSE OF ACTION AGAINST US AND REQUIRES THE BUSINESS IMPACT STATEMENT AND ALL OF THAT. SO IT WAS KIND OF LIKE PARACHUTED INTO THAT BILL. AND SO NOW WE HAVE A BILL THAT FROM CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE PERSPECTIVE IS BAD AND THE BENEFIT OF FIXING THAT LITTLE NOTICING ISSUE WITH THE NEWSPAPER REALLY DOESN'T IMPACT US BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING IT THAT WAY ANYWAY. WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE EXISTING STATUTES, SO WE DON'T REALLY NEED THE AMENDMENT. AND SO HERE WE ARE. ODD BEDFELLOWS. I SUPPOSE SO, YES. IT IS MOVING FORWARD AND. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. JUST A TINY BIT OF INSIGHT INTO HOW THINGS WORK IN TALLAHASSEE. OKAY. THANK YOU. TINY INSIDE. THERE'S SO MUCH. SO, SO MUCH MORE. ALL RIGHT. SO BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. IT WAS VERY THOROUGH. AND I HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE, YOU KNOW, SITTING IN ON THE CALL WITH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER DAVID BIRCHAM MYSELF. WE'RE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT JENNY WOLF IS WITH THE STATE NOW. THAT'S WONDERFUL. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THOSE AMENDMENTS BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO GET ANYTHING DONE IS THERE WILL BE NO CYCLES AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO. ALL RIGHT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 13 A, WHICH WE'LL HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION AND THEN A SMALL BREAK BECAUSE I NEED A [13.A. Notification of retirement date - June 2, 2023. (J. Regan, City Manager)] SMALL BREAK AFTER THAT. SO, UM. MR.. MR. CITY MANAGER YES. AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAD TWO TRAGEDY MAJOR TRAGEDIES THIS WEEKEND. ONE WAS A PEDESTRIAN HIT BY GIRALDO AND AND A-1A ANASTASIA BOULEVARD. AND THEN. AND THE PEDESTRIAN IS IN CRITICAL CONDITION BASED ON THE LAST REPORT I RECEIVED THIS MORNING. AND THEN THE TRAGEDY WITH TWO PEDESTRIANS HIT, LEAVING THE AMPHITHEATER JUST SOUTH OF THE AMPHITHEATER OUTSIDE OUR JURISDICTION, BOTH RESULTING IN TWO DEATHS. AND THERE'S AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION BY FLORIDA HIGHWAY PATROL. SO BETWEEN STAFF'S ELECTED OFFICIALS OF THE BEACH AND OURSELVES, MAYOR SIKES-KLINE, I BELIEVE YOU'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH DYLAN RUMRILL, COMMISSIONER RUMRILL AND WE SPOKEN YET, BUT WE'VE LEFT MESSAGES FOR EACH OTHER. HE'S HAD AN INCREDIBLE OUTPOURING OF CONTACT TO HIM ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. SO WHAT STAFF PROPOSES AND MR. FRANKLIN'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS BEHIND THE SCENES AND I'M LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION TONIGHT IS TO DRAFT A JOINT LETTER SIGNED BY THE THE THE THE MAYORS OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION, AND OUR SHERIFF. THAT IS A LETTER THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED TO THE DOT CALLING FOR A PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BRIDGE LIONS TO 312. WE KNOW FROM OUR STAFF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DOT STAFF THAT THIS WILL BE WELL RECEIVED BY THE DOT AND THE TYPE OF LETTER THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD TO LOOKING AT PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS. AND IT CAN BE A RANGE OF THINGS. I WOULD SAY AT THE TOP OF THE LIST HAS TO DO WITH LIGHTING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO JUST THAT. SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS WITH YOUR CONSENSUS, WE'LL PREPARE A LETTER. I HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE SHERIFF, AND WE'LL WE'LL WORK THAT AND I BELIEVE THAT COMMISSIONER RUMMELL IS BRINGING THE TOPIC UP AT A BEACH MEETING. HE WILL. YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S JUST. IT'S BEEN A HORRENDOUS WEEKEND, TO SAY THE LEAST. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MOVING SO QUICKLY. I'VE SPOKE WITH REUBEN FRANKLIN OVER THE WEEKEND. UM, BEEN TRYING TO TALK TO COMMISSIONER RUMRILL AND HE SORT OF LEADING THE CHARGE ACTUALLY. BUT THE SHERIFF DID BRING IT UP TO ME ON SATURDAY. UM, ALMOST IMMEDIATELY WILLS WENT INTO MOTION. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU. IT MIGHT TAKE A MINUTE TO, SO TO SPEAK, TO GET THE RESOLUTION DONE SO THAT ALL THE DIFFERENT BODIES HAVE APPROVED. [02:00:01] BUT SO FAR, EVERYONE WANTS SOMETHING TO HAPPEN DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. AND, UM, I SUPPOSE YOU'LL WANT A MOTION FROM US IN SUPPORT OF YOUR CREATION OF A RESOLUTION. SO MOVED. TO THAT NATURE. DO I HEAR A SECOND? YES. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MADAM MAYOR, PLEASE. THIS IS FLORIDA HAS A SHAMEFUL RECORD OF STATISTICALLY HAVING THE HIGHEST PER CAPITA RATE OF DEATHS OF PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS. AND I DON'T WANT OUR COUNTY OR OUR CITY TO BECOME AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST. SO I APPLAUD WHAT THESE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE TOGETHER TRYING TO DO IS TO GET IMMEDIATE ATTENTION TO THIS. IT'S GONE ON TOO LONG. AND WE NEED TO WE NEED TO STOP THESE TRAGEDIES FROM CONTINUING TO HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU. YES. YES. WELL, AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT BACK IN JANUARY, I DID SUGGEST WHEN THIS CAME UP BEFORE, BECAUSE IT KEEPS HAPPENING AND IT'S GOING TO KEEP HAPPENING. YOU KNOW, WE USED TO TALK ABOUT THE TRIANGLE DOWNTOWN BEING KIND OF THE BAR AREA. I THINK THAT'S HOW THE POLICE OFFICERS LIKE TO CALL IT. IT'S THEIR NICKNAME BETWEEN THE CASTILLO AND THE CORNER THERE, WHITE LION AND NO NAME BAR. AND REMARKABLY, WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT HAPPEN. THIS HAPPENED THERE. INSTEAD, IT'S THIS NEW DEVELOPING AREA ON SAINT AUGUSTINE, ON ANASTASIA BOULEVARD. SO I ALMOST WONDER IN MY MIND, HAS THIS WHOLE NIGHTLIFE ACTIVITY MOVED? AND SINCE IT'S SUCH A BIG ROAD, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T CONDUCIVE TO THERE'S LOTS OF QUESTIONS. I GUESS THAT'S MY POINT. THERE'S LOTS OF QUESTIONS. BUT I DID BRING UP IN JANUARY, WE DO. I FELT LIKE WHAT WE DID BEFORE WAS A CAMPAIGN FOR BICYCLE SAFETY. AND I THINK THAT WE GOT FUNDING FROM THE NORTH FLORIDA TPO TO DO THAT. AND THEY DID. WHAT YOU BROUGHT UP TO ME IS THEY THEY DID IT BASED ON VULNERABLE USER AREAS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY THE DATA. SO THAT WAS YEARS AGO. SO MY THINKING ON THAT IS IF PERHAPS WE COULD TALK TO TPO AGAIN RATHER THAN TRY TO RUN OUR OWN PROGRAM AND PERHAPS TAP INTO SOME OF THEIR PWP MONEY LIKE WE DID LAST TIME AND INITIATE A PEDESTRIAN SAFETY CAMPAIGN. UM, AND I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING THAT UP AT THE NORTH FLORIDA TPO. I CAN OFFER THAT AT LEAST THAT MUCH BECAUSE THEY ARE A GREAT HELP. SO WITH THAT SAID, CAN CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YES, PLEASE. WHEN YOU SAY THAT IT HASN'T HAPPENED OVER THERE BY THE FOURTH, THEY HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES WITH CROSSWALKS, WITH FLASHERS. AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE VISUAL. WHAT THEY SEE. IF YOU'RE DRIVING AND YOU SEE YELLOW LIGHTS FLASHING, YOU'RE GOING TO SLOW DOWN BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO SLOW DOWN WHEN YOU SEE YELLOW AND RED. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE NOT TO HAVE ANY INCIDENTS OVER THERE BY THE FORT, BECAUSE THERE EVERY SO OFTEN THEY HAVE THOSE SIDEWALKS NOW WITH THE FLASHING. AND SPEAKING OF THAT, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION ABOUT A CROSSWALK OVER ON WEST KING STREET FOR THE CHURCHES ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THE PARKING LOTS ACROSS THE STREET OVER THERE AT SHILOH ON WEST KING STREET. WELL, LAST WEEK I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE A MEETING WITH CHRISTIAN WHITEHORSE BECAUSE THAT WAS TOLD TO ME TO BE A COUNTY ROAD, HIM AND REUBEN FRANKLIN AND MYSELF TO ADDRESS GETTING A SIDEWALK IN WEST AUGUSTINE SO WE DON'T HAVE A TRAGEDY FROM SOMEBODY JUST GOING TO CHURCH. SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE IS NO CROSSWALKS LIKE THAT OVER THERE ON ANASTASIA THAT I HAVE SEEN. AND PEOPLE ARE RACING THROUGH THERE LIKE THEY'RE ON 95. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN QUITE A FEW AREAS OVER THAT WAY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU COME AROUND. I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A ROUNDABOUT AROUND THAT CURVE, BUT THERE'S THERE'S SCHOOLS AND DIFFERENT THINGS. THEY HAVE CROSSWALKS, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE FLASHING LIGHTS. AND THAT'S REALLY SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE PEOPLE IGNORE CROSSWALKS. THEY DON'T CARE IF PEOPLE ARE STAYING THERE OR NOT. BUT THOSE LIGHTS MAKE 100% DIFFERENCE. YOU'RE SO RIGHT. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE. I THINK THAT OUR LIST HERE, OUR TASK LIST THAT SHOULD BE ADDED TO A WEST KING STREET CROSSWALK, WORK ON THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING ON IT AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO US AS WELL. AND THAT MAY BE AN AREA SINCE IT'S NOT A DOT ROAD, IT MAY BE ABLE TO MOVE A LITTLE FASTER THAN THE SITUATION. [02:05:07] MR REGAN I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION. COULD YOU COULD YOU KIND OF UPDATE US ON THE CROSSWALK AT HIRADO AND ANASTASIA? UM, BECAUSE THERE IS ONE PLAN. THE IT'S IT'S SHOULD BE GOING TO CONSTRUCTION VERY SOON. BUT IF MAYBE REUBEN FRANKLIN MIGHT HAVE BETTER DETAIL. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. MEANWHILE, I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU ABOUT WE'VE HAD THE SAME KIND OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT RIBERIA, WHICH IS GETTING A LOT HEAVIER FOOT TRAFFIC NOW. AND SO THAT NEEDS TO BE STUDIED AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T FORGET RIBERIA STREET AS WELL. OKAY, GREAT. UH, GOOD EVENING. UM, PERTAINING TO THE CROSSWALK AT ZORAYDA AND ANASTASIA BOULEVARD. DOT HAD APPROVED THAT CROSSWALK. IT'S GOING TO BE A HAWK CROSSWALK, SO THAT'S A CANTILEVER SIGN. AND WHEN YOU HIT IT, IT'S GOING TO FLASH YELLOW. THEY RELEASED THE CONTRACT IN JANUARY, BUT IN THIS DAY AND AGE, THEY ORDERED THE MATERIALS AND THE MATERIALS WILL NOT BE HERE TILL AUGUST. SO DOT DID HAND IT OVER TO A CONTRACTOR. UM, THEY'VE ORDERED THE MATERIALS, AND WE'RE. WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE MATERIALS TO ARRIVE TO INSTALL THE ONE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AT ZORAYDA. THANK YOU. AND WE ARE HORRIBLY DISAPPOINTED THAT THERE'S SUCH A LONG DELAY ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S. YEAH, THAT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONCERTS BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST. SO IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WHEN YOU TAKE A SHORT BREAK, FIVE MINUTES. I HAVE A QUESTION. IS THIS GOING TO BE FOR INFORMATION ONLY? WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION ON THIS LAST TONIGHT. WELL, WE TONIGHT, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT. WE WILL DISCUSS THAT. WELL, CAN WE JUST TAKE A QUICK BREAK? I JUST REALLY NEED TO TAKE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. FIVE MINUTES. ALL RIGHT. THIS MEETING IS CALLED BACK TO ORDER. THANK YOU FOR THAT BREAK. MR. CITY MANAGER, YOU ARE ON TO ENLIGHTEN US. MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD JUST GIVE ME ONE MINUTE TO READ MY LETTER THAT I ADDRESSED TO YOU. FOR THE PUBLIC, I THINK IT SUMMARIZES VERY MUCH HOW I FEEL ABOUT ALL FIVE OF YOU. I HAVE DECIDED TO RETIRE FROM SERVICE WITH THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE ON JUNE 2ND, 2023. THIS WILL COMPLETE 25 YEARS, INCLUDING THE LAST 13 YEARS AS CITY MANAGER. TOGETHER, MY WIFE FELICIA AND I HAVE REACHED THE PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL MILESTONES WHICH ALLOW US TO MOVE ON TO NEW LIFE EXPERIENCES, THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE FREEDOM TO BE IN COMPLETE CONTROL OF OUR TIME. WHILE I TRAVELED EVERY DAY ACROSS THE BRIDGE OF LIONS IN ANTICIPATION OF AN EXCITING DAY AT WORK, I'M NOW LOOKING FORWARD TO EACH DAY OF A NEW CHAPTER IN MY LIFE WITH THE SAME ENTHUSIASM. I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH. IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AS CITY MANAGER. OUR COMMUNITY HAS HAD SO MANY OUTSTANDING ELECTED OFFICIALS, DEDICATED EMPLOYEES AND AN ENGAGED PUBLIC, AND I AM PROUD OF WHAT WE HAVE ACHIEVED AS A COMMUNITY TEAM. THE CITY IS ALWAYS BUILDING AND REBUILDING TO MEET NEW CHALLENGES. IF I'VE LEARNED ANYTHING, IT IS. WE MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE, BUT IN THE END WE ARE ALL UNITED IN A COMMONALITY OF BELIEF, FAITH AND COMMITMENT TO ALWAYS MAKE SAINT AUGUSTINE A BETTER PLACE IN GETTING TO KNOW EACH OF YOU, YOUR INTELLIGENCE, YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS AND DEDICATION TO NOT ONLY OUR COMMUNITY, BUT TO OUR PERSONNEL. I AM THANKFUL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP FROM WHERE YOU ALL SIT ON THE DAIS, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE HELM. I AM ALSO CONFIDENT THAT YOU WILL NAVIGATE US TO A BRIGHT FUTURE. CITY GOVERNMENT PROVIDES THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL NEEDS OF SOCIETY PUBLIC SAFETY, MEDICAL RESPONSE, EMERGENCY SERVICES, CLEAN DRINKING, WATER, SANITATION AND PLANNING. THE EMPLOYEES ON THE FRONT LINE OF THOSE CRITICAL SERVICES ARE SUPPORTED BY KEY TEAM MEMBERS WHO MANAGE, SUPERVISE AND LEAD TO ENSURE FAIRNESS, TRANSPARENCY, RELIABILITY OF EQUIPMENT AND STEWARDSHIP OF THE PEOPLE'S MONEY. THEIR WORK IS OFTEN UNHERALDED, BUT THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT KEEP OUR CITY GOING. PLEASE ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT AND THANK THEM. IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR TO WORK ALONGSIDE SUCH AN INTELLIGENT, DEDICATED AND TALENTED WORKFORCE THAT MAKES UP THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE TO ALL EMPLOYEES THAT MAY READ THIS LETTER OR HEARING THIS MESSAGE. I THANK YOU. IN THE PAST YEAR, I'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON BUILDING ORGANIZATIONAL RESILIENCY. WE HAVE DONE MANY POLICY AND ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN THE BEST WORKFORCE POSSIBLE IN TODAY'S ECONOMY. AND IT SHOWS WE HAVE A GREAT CITYWIDE TEAM WITH TALENTED MANAGEMENT THAT HAS LED GREAT THINGS AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. IN THIS, I FEEL A SENSE OF ACCOMPLISHMENT. MY TIME AS CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN AT TIMES AN EMOTIONAL ROLLER COASTER OF UP AND DOWN THE TIMELINE OF MY TENURE IN 13 YEARS, INCLUDING INCLUDED [02:10:04] NAVIGATING THE CITY THROUGH THE RECESSION, THE FOUR 50TH COMMEMORATION, NUMEROUS CATASTROPHES, CATASTROPHES, TOO MANY HURRICANES AND TROPICAL STORMS TO COUNT THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC AND THE COMMUNITY'S ANGST OVER THE CITY COMMISSION'S DECISION TO RELOCATE THE CONFEDERATE MEMORIAL TO PRIVATE LAND. DESPITE ALL THE CHALLENGES OF THAT EMOTIONAL ROLLER COASTER, IT HAS BEEN A ROLLER COASTER. ALSO FUN FILLED WITH FUN AND JOY, WHICH I GUESS IS THE POINT OF RIDING A ROLLER COASTER. I THINK ABOUT THESE EXPERIENCES AND THE PEOPLE I SHARED THEM WITH, MY RELATIONSHIPS WITH EACH OF YOU, AND I REALIZE HOW MUCH IT HAS MADE ME THE PERSON THAT I AM TODAY. IT HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE JOURNEY AND I WOULD NOT TRADE IT FOR ANYTHING. BACK TO YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, JOHN. WE. UM. OH, HERE WE GO. DEFINITELY. AND FORTUNATELY, THIS IS NOT GOODBYE YET. BUT I THANK YOU FOR YOUR LETTER AND WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU LETTING US KNOW AND GIVING US TIME TO PLAN, WHICH IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT HERE SHORTLY. BUT I'VE HAD A GREAT DEAL OF PLEASURE AND HONOR WORKING WITH YOU SINCE. I WAS EVER ELECTED IN 2008, AND I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER THE YEAR WE GO BACK TO ON THE PARKING AND TRAFFIC COMMITTEE. BUT JUST IT'S BEEN, WHAT, A ROLLER COASTER RIDE. YES. SO THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONERS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS BEFORE WE BEGIN THE DISCUSSION OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO KIND OF I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, WE STILL HAVE WE HAVE TIME TO SAY OUR GOODBYES. I'M NOT READY TO SAY ANY GOODBYES. SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME A LITTLE WHILE TO GET. USED TO THE IDEA. AND SO I WOULD LIKE US TO TALK ABOUT POSSIBLY OUR OPTIONS. OKAY. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE PATH FORWARD. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? LIKE I SAID, THERE'LL BE TIMES. I JUST NOTICED SOME SAILING REFERENCES IN THE IN THE LETTER. AND AS SOMEBODY WHO'S EXPERIENCED RETIREMENT, I CAN HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. AND I KNOW THAT YOU'LL YOU'LL NEVER STOP CONSIDERING YOURSELF A WORKING PERSON TOWARD THE BETTERMENT OF MANKIND AND THE CITY. SO I HOPE THAT YOU'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT RIGHT HERE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD. SO WE WILL BE I WILL BE ASKING YOU, ADDRESSING FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, BECAUSE IT IS OUR DECISION TO MAKE AND OUR DECISION ALONE. IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY. AND WE WILL WHAT WE DETERMINE FROM HERE, IT WILL 100% FALL ON OUR SHOULDERS, NOT STAFF'S SHOULDERS AND OUR SHOULDERS, OUR SHOULDERS. SO IT'S A VERY SERIOUS TASK. UM, I THINK IN THINKING ABOUT IT AND I KNOW YOU'VE PROBABLY ALL HAD A MOMENT TO THINK ABOUT IT. UM, I THINK WHAT I HAVE FOUND, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND WE DO IS TO LOOK FOR A REPLACEMENT WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION FIRST BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING SUCH AS ADVERTISE A POSITION OR GO OUT AND RECRUIT. AND I THINK I WILL ARTICULATE THOSE REASONS WHY I STAND ON THAT. UM, LIKE JOHN SAID IN HIS LETTER, HE HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB OF SUCCESSION PLANNING. UM, WE HAVE SO MUCH TALENT WITHIN THIS HOUSE. WE ARE FULL OF A REALLY GOOD ORGANIZATION, AS YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER GARRIS. IT'S AN ORGANIZATION OUR SERVICES FROM BY PEOPLE TO PEOPLE. SO OUR PERSONNEL IS IMPORTANT AND IT'S IT'S BEEN NOURISHED, TRAINED, ENCOURAGED BY OUR CITY MANAGER AND I THINK IT'S VERY STRONG. SO I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT TALENT POOL. TIME IS A CONSIDERATION. UM, I THINK OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE ADVERTISING WOULD BE A TIME CONSUMING PROCESS AND IT COULD, IT COULD BE VERY COSTLY. I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW IN THE SENSE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO HANDLE HANDLE THE SEARCH OR THE RECRUITMENT. RIGHT NOW, IT'S A VERY TIGHT LABOR MARKET. IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE. UM. BUSINESSES THEMSELVES THAT TEND TO PAY MORE THAN GOVERNMENT ARE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME RECRUITING AND RETAINING. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD TO GO AHEAD AND CHOOSE FROM WITHIN. [02:15:02] I LOVED WHAT COMMISSIONER VALDES SAID EARLIER ABOUT WE'RE A VERY UNIQUE CITY. WE ARE A VERY UNIQUE CITY, AS WE KNOW. WE HAVE ALL OF THE ISSUES TO DEAL WITH THAT SMALL CITIES HAVE TO DEAL WITH IN A GROWING COMMUNITY. BUT WE HAVE MILLIONS OF TOURISTS ON TOP OF ALL THAT, TOO. SO AND A HISTORIC NATIONAL LANDMARK CITY WITH VERY NARROW STREETS THAT WE DON'T, IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WANT TO CHANGE. SO WE WE REALLY DO HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION. AND I WOULD THINK THAT THE PERSON THAT WE SELECT FOR THIS POSITION WOULD HAVE THAT KIND OF KNOWLEDGE, WOULD HAVE THAT UNIQUE KIND OF BACKGROUND THAT'S NEEDED AND COULD ESSENTIALLY HIT THE GROUND RUNNING. THE LAST REASON I'M GOING TO OFFER IS THAT WE HAVE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN GRANTS TO EXECUTE. AND STAFF HAS TOLD US, EACH ONE OF US WE'VE HEARD THIS OVER THE NEXT 4 TO 5 YEARS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE HEADS DOWN DOING THAT WORK. AND IT'S SO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. IT'S TAKEN US SO LONG TO GET HERE. AND THAT IN ITSELF, I FEEL LIKE IS A REASON ALONE TO LOOK FROM LOOK WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION BECAUSE OUR STAFF DOES KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH IT. THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON HOW TO TEASE OUT HOW TO PROCEED, THE TIMELINES, THE WORK TABLES AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO THAT'S WHAT I OFFER. AND I'M VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT THIS IS A GROUP DECISION AND THAT EVERYBODY LISTEN TO EACH OTHER FAIRLY AND SQUARELY LIKE WE ALWAYS DO, LIKE WE ALWAYS DO. SO I HAVE BEEN STARTING ON THE END OF THIS TABLE, BUT I'D LIKE TO START HERE WITH COMMISSIONER GARRIS AND YOUR THOUGHTS. OKAY. AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK JOHN FOR ALL HIS DEDICATION FOR ALL THESE YEARS THAT HE HAS BEEN THE CITY MANAGER AND THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. HE DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB. THAT'S WHY HE WAS PROMOTED UP TO ASSISTANT MANAGER AND THEN BECAME THE CITY MANAGER. SO THAT OPPORTUNITY CAN RELY ON ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT A PERSON FEELS PROMOTABLE, AND THESE OPPORTUNITIES DON'T COME OFTEN BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE GREAT POSITIONS USUALLY DON'T LEAVE THOSE POSITIONS. SO IT OPENS UP A WINDOW FOR NOT ONLY PROMOTING SOMEONE WITHIN, IT SAVES TIME ON HOW TO BRING SOMEONE IN THAT DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OUR CITY. WE WOULD HAVE TO SPOON FEED THEM TO GET THEM TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, AND IT'S JUST A WASTE OF TIME BECAUSE THEN MOST MORE LIKELY THEY'RE GOING TO PROBABLY LIVE OUT OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. AND THEN WE GOT TO PAY FOR RELOCATION FEES ON TOP OF THAT. SO WE HAVE SOME GOOD STAFF. I'VE BEEN GETTING PHONE CALLS ALREADY ABOUT WHO WE SHOULD PICK, BUT WE'LL DISCUSS THAT AT ANOTHER TIME. I THINK THAT I HAVE A WINDOW THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BROADER SCOPE BECAUSE I HAVE WORKED WITH A LOT OF THE CITY. I HAVE BEEN MIDDLE MANAGEMENT AND WORK WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND SEEING HOW THEY INTERACT WITH THE STAFF AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC. SO I WOULD BE VERY GLAD TO GIVE A LOT OF INPUT WHEN WE'RE GOING TO FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS. I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A WINDOW OF TIME BECAUSE JUNE 2ND IS GOING TO BE ON OUR BACK BEFORE YOU KNOW IT. SO IN THE NEAR FUTURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET AN INTERIM CITY MANAGER OR SOMETHING SO JOHN CAN ASSIST HIM WITH THINGS THAT MAYBE HE'S ONLY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT BECAUSE WHEN HE RETIRES, HE'S GOING SAILING AND WE AIN'T GOING TO CALL HIM. OKAY. SO I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE EFFECTIVELY IN THAT PURSUIT SO THAT WE ARE NOT, AS THAT SAYING GOES, BUT OUR PANTS DOWN THAT WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP ON MOVING. IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU'RE RIDING DOWN A HIGHWAY AND YOUR BRAKES ARE GOING OUT. WHAT IS THE OTHER WAY YOU CAN STOP YOUR VEHICLE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD, TOUGH SHOES TO FILL. BUT I THINK JOHN HAS MENTORED HIS STAFF ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO HAND THEM THE DRIVING WHEEL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. VICE MAYOR HORVATH. UM, WELL, I CERTAINLY BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO WONDERFUL CANDIDATES THAT HAVE STATED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE. THIS POSITION. THEY BOTH HAVE GREAT KNOWLEDGE OF THE CITY OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'M LEANING TOWARDS. PICKING FROM WITHIN OUR HOUSE. I DON'T FEEL THERE'S A BIG RUSH. [02:20:02] THERE IS A POSSIBILITY TO DO AN INTERIM POSITION IF WE NEEDED TO. BUT WHAT I DO THINK IS IMPORTANT IS TO BE TRANSPARENT, TO BE OPEN TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND HEAR FROM THEM ON THEIR FEELINGS TOWARDS THIS. THEY ELECTED US TO MAKE THIS DECISION. I'D LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY FEEL, BUT MY POSITION RIGHT NOW IS. BECAUSE WE'RE SO UNIQUE, BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE AMAZING PRESSURES ON OUR CITY AND THE WORKLOAD THAT WE HAVE THAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. IT WOULD BE HARD FOR SOMEBODY TO COME UP TO SPEED FROM OUTSIDE AND REALLY BE ABLE TO TO LEAD THIS ORGANIZATION AS EITHER ONE OF THESE CANDIDATES WOULD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MR. BLONDER, INDULGE ME. I HAVE SOME WORDS. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE ALL THREE OF YOU SO FAR. AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE SEVERAL THINGS. OVER THE PAST DECADE OR SO, THE CITY HAS REALLY COME INTO THE BULL'S EYE OF THE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT IN TERMS OF TOURISM AND ATTRACTING VISITORS AND ARE ALSO ARE PROACTIVE, CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE WAYS OF ADDRESSING RESILIENCE TO FLOODING AND OTHER ISSUES SUCH AS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE'RE WE'VE GOT A LOT IN MOTION. BUT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN THE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE NEED TO DO AN OUTSIDE SEARCH, IN MY OPINION. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE JUST THE TIME, THE EXPENSE, BUT ALSO HIGHLY QUALIFIED APPLICANTS COMING FROM A NON COASTAL COMMUNITY AND BRINGING HOW WE WOULD GET THEM UP TO SPEED. AND I JUST I THINK THAT WOULD BE A TIME THAT ISN'T WELL INVESTED. I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR AND MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT WE NEED TO HIRE FROM WITHIN. BUT I IF WE DO THAT, I DEFINITELY WANT TO REQUIRE FORMAL APPLICATIONS FROM THE INTERNAL CANDIDATES AS WELL AS A FORMAL INTERVIEW PROCESS. IF WE GO THE INTERNAL ROUTE, OUR EXCELLENT CANDIDATES WILL MAKE THIS A REALLY DIFFICULT CHOICE. SO I WANT TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION AND ORGANIZATION THAT THAT WOULD DO. A NATIONAL SEARCH WOULD DO SO FOR TWO BASIC REASONS. IT EITHER HAS INSUFFICIENT IN-HOUSE TALENT OR IT'S SEEKING A SIGNIFICANT MAKEOVER. AND NEITHER OF THOSE IS THE CASE HERE AT ALL. WE'RE ON A CHALLENGING BUT CREATIVE AND FAR REACHING COURSE OF ACTIONS IN OUR CITY, AND I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND DEVIATING FROM THAT COURSE. AN ORGANIZATION CAN ALSO RANGE FROM DEEP TO SHALLOW. IF AN ORGANIZATION IS SUCCESSFUL, THE LEADERSHIP TRANSMISSION TRANSITION MUST MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY. AND I'M GOING TO RIFF OFF OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS SPRINGFIELD HERE AND USE A BASKETBALL ANALOGY BECAUSE IT'S THAT TIME OF THE MONTH. BRIAN DUTCHER, THE HEAD COACH OF THE SAN DIEGO STATE AZTECS. HE WAS AN ASSISTANT COACH. HE WAS NAMED THE HEAD COACH NOT THAT LONG AGO. UPON THE RETIREMENT OF THE HEAD COACH THAT HE WAS WORKING FOR STEVE FISHER SINCE HE WAS PROMOTED. AND THIS JUST HAPPENED YESTERDAY. HE LED THE TEAM TO ITS FIRST EVER SHOWING IN THE FINAL FOUR. AND I CAN SEE SOMETHING OF THAT MAGNITUDE HAPPENING WITH THE WITH THE TALENT THAT WE HAVE IN HOUSE. THAT'S AN EXAMPLE AT SAN DIEGO STATE OF RECOGNIZING AND PROMOTING SERIOUS IN-HOUSE TALENT. THE TEAM AND CULTIVATION OF LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND PROBLEM SOLVING SKILLS IS JOHN'S REAL LEGACY. IT'S A LASTING ONE. WE HAVE THE IN-HOUSE TALENT. THANKS TO HIM. AND I WOULD HATE TO LOSE THE MOMENTUM. AND WE COULD EVEN LOSE TALENTED STAFF IF WE DELAYED THIS PROCESS AND SORT PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE. OUR STAFF WANTS TO STAY HERE. THEY LOVE THE CITY AND MORE THAN A FEW HAVE TURNED DOWN HEAD HUNTING OFFERS FOR HIGHER SALARIES THAN WE OFFER. WORKING TOGETHER, THE CITY MANAGER, THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE STAFF HAVE BUILT A FULL STEAM AHEAD MOMENTUM THAT A DRAWN OUT PROCESS COULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPEDE AND MIGHT JUST COST US THE SUCCESSES WE'VE WORKED SO HARD TO LAY THE FOUNDATION FOR AND SUCCESS FOR THAT. SO THINK ABOUT THE NETWORKS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT ON PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS AND TRUST. IT TAKES YEARS AND SPECIAL TALENT TO BUILD, MAINTAIN AND GROW THOSE NETWORKS AND CONSTITUENCIES AND A DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF THE CULTURE OF THE PLACE. OUR INTERNAL STAFF HAVE THAT THOSE QUALITIES. SO PERFECT. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD. WELL, OF COURSE I'M ON A DIFFERENT HORSE. NOT TOTALLY, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF I THINK, FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE JOBS, THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO REEVALUATE WHAT THIS COMMISSION SEES AS A CITY MANAGER. SO THAT'S FIRST TASK IN MY MIND IS TO REDO, RE REVIEW AND MODIFY IF WE FEEL NECESSARY. [02:25:06] THE JOB DESCRIPTION. I VIEW THIS POSITION AS A LEADERSHIP POSITION MORE THAN A. EXPERT IN ALL THE FIELDS. A GOOD LEADER HIRES THE BEST, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT JOHN HAS DONE. HE'S HIRED THE BEST PEOPLE HE CAN FIND TO FILL THOSE CRITICAL POSITIONS. SO THEY ARE THE EXPERTS IN THE FIELD. AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO LOCAL PEOPLE GETTING THE JOB. OBVIOUSLY, TIM FERGUSON BEING A FRIEND OF MINE AND NOW THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS, HE WAS HIRED LOCALLY AFTER WE WENT WITH THREE OUT OF DISTRICT SUPERINTENDENTS. BUT THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE FROM THE EVEN JUST THE SEARCH WAS REMARKABLE TO LEARN THE BACKGROUNDS OF PEOPLE OF POTENTIAL. AND I DON'T VIEW THAT AS SOMETHING THAT'S A NEGATIVE. AND SO MY PROPOSAL, WHICH WILL GO DOWN AS A 1 TO 4 VOTE, THE WAY I SEE IT, IS THAT WE DO SEEK AN INTERIM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT THAT INTERIM COULD COULD MOVE IN WITH JOHN AND GET SOME GET SOME HEAD START. THERE'S A REAL PROBLEM IN MY OLD HR WORLD WITH ALREADY NAMING TWO POTENTIAL CANDIDATES AND NOT ADVERTISING IT WITHIN THE IF WE WANT TO GO LOCAL WITHOUT ADVERTISING TO ALL EMPLOYEES. SO THAT WE HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF APPLICANTS IF THEY ARE SO DESIRE TO SEARCH, I THINK THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM FOR US IF WE DON'T ACTUALLY ADVERTISE IT WITHIN THE THE LOCAL. SO MY IDEA WAS TO LOCAL ADVERTISE IT LOCALLY, RECEIVE THOSE APPLICANTS, HIRE AN INTERIM FROM WITHIN AND THEN DISCUSS AFTER REVIEWING THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND WHAT KIND OF POSITION IT IS. IF WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN OUT OF OUT OF LOCAL ADVERTISEMENT. BUT WHEN YOU SAY YOU WANT TO HIRE LOCAL OR YOU WANT TO HIRE OUT, WHEN YOU WANT TO HIRE OUT, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU HIRE OUT. IT MEANS THAT YOU ADVERTISE ON A GLOBAL BASIS SO THAT YOU GET A FULL RANGE OF APPLICANTS, INCLUDING THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING THAT ARE LOCAL. THERE MAY BE LOCAL PEOPLE WHO DON'T WORK FOR THE CITY THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THIS POSITION. I HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY APPROACH ME ON THAT, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHO IS AVAILABLE. AND I THINK THOSE SEARCHES SERVE A PURPOSE AND AND I THINK ARE VALUABLE. AND THAT'S. MY SUGGESTION. OKAY THEN. WELL, I THINK I DO HEAR SOME COMMON THREADS AND ONE I DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BLONDER THAT WE SHOULD BE AND COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD THAT WE DO WE SHOULD ACCEPT APPLICATIONS WHILE WE STAY WITHIN AND THAT WE SHOULD ALL EACH GO THROUGH AN INTERVIEW PROCESS AND THAT WE HAVE IT AND THAT WE TAKE PUBLIC INPUT, THAT THERE'S AMPLE TIME TO DO ALL THOSE AND TO TAKE PUBLIC INPUT BECAUSE WE DO CARE. BUT AGAIN, I SAY IT IS IT RESTS SQUARELY ON OUR SHOULDERS 100%. IF IT WORKS OUT, WE'RE HEROES. IF IT DOESN'T, WE'RE 100% TO BLAME. SO I WOULD SUGGEST IS WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO YOU IS THAT WE WE DO THAT BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL 24TH, AND THAT IS A MONTH APPROXIMATELY. AND I THINK THAT'S PLENTY OF TIME. I DO NOT WANT TO DELAY LIKE WAS SUGGESTED. AND I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS THAT I DON'T THINK DELAY IS GOOD FOR THE ORGANIZATION. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD FOR RURAL. UM, BUT UH, SO THAT'S IT. I MEAN I THINK AND IF, AND IF I CAN GET FOUR THREE HEADS NODDING, I WILL BE THRILLED AND OUR WORK WILL BE DONE HERE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE ONE SUGGESTION, AND THAT IS THAT THE PERIOD OF TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS GIVE INPUT TO THE MAYOR ON THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND THAT THE MAYOR WORK WITH THE MANAGER. OKAY. CAN I RESPOND? I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT SPECIFICALLY. I THINK YOU CAN DO THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER. BUT AGAIN, WHAT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS TO YOU, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE A REALLY GOOD POINT, BUT WE ALSO DO HAVE A CHARTER AND THE CHARTER DESCRIBES THE JOB AND THAT IS THE BONES OF IT. WHAT IS IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION IS IN, CAN I SAY, EMBELLISHMENT SO MUCH SO I MEAN, I THINK THE CITY OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS SOME WORDS FOR US ON THAT. WELL, I JUST WOULD CAUTION YOU ABOUT SPEAKING TO EACH OTHER OUTSIDE OF SUNSHINE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. SO YOU COULDN'T DISCUSS WITH THE MAYOR WHATEVER YOU WISH TO INCLUDE IN SUGGESTIONS TO THE MAYOR, SEND IT THROUGH US, NOT NOT TO THE MAYOR. [02:30:03] YOU DON'T WANT TO BE TALKING WEATHER. TALKING IS THROUGH EMAIL OR MESSAGES. BUT BUT AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, THE DUTIES ARE ENSHRINED IN OUR CHARTER. AND SO WE COULDN'T WE COULDN'T REMOVE ANY OF THOSE DUTIES. IN THEORY, YOU COULD SUPPLEMENT AND ADD MORE AS LONG AS IT WASN'T CONTRARY TO WHAT'S IN THE CHARTER. AND THE CHARTER DUTIES ARE PRETTY EXTENSIVE. IT'S IT'S QUITE A LIST. SO THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION IS MAYBE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S IN THE CHARTER. I BELIEVE MAYBE OUR HR DEPARTMENT MAY HAVE A DRAFT OF OF A OF A JOB DESCRIPTION THAT ESSENTIALLY MAYBE IS AN EASIER TO ACCESS VERBIAGE THAN OUR CHARTER LANGUAGE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO SEND ME OR OBVIOUSLY THE CITY MANAGER ANY INPUT ON ON FINESSING THAT JOB DESCRIPTION IF YOU LIKE. BUT YES, PLEASE AVOID CONVERSING WITH EACH OTHER. MY INTENT WAS NOT TO CONVERSE. IT WAS FOR EXPEDIENCY TO HAVE THE MAYOR WORK WITH THE MANAGER SPECIFICALLY TO BRING A PRODUCT INSTEAD OF US HAVING TO SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT IT PUBLICLY AND THAT WAY IT EXPEDIENCE IT FOR THAT PURPOSE. AND THEN THEN WE CAN, THEN WE THEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE APPLYING KNOW IF THERE'S ANY BIG CHANGES TO THE JOB BEFORE THEY SAY, YES, I WANT TO SERVE IN THAT POSITION. JUST A COUPLE. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE APPLICANTS, ARE WE GOING TO DO IT AS A GROUP, AS THE COMMISSION, LIKE THEY COME IN, HOW THEY HAVE PANELS AND TALK TO THEM AT ONE TIME? I THINK THAT WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS COME BACK DURING A PUBLIC MEETING AND MAKE A DECISION AT THE 24TH MEETING, NOT HAVE A WORKSHOP. JUST DO IT THEN AND DO OUR EACH INDIVIDUAL, DO OUR OWN HOMEWORK AND RESEARCH WE SHOULD BE RECEIVING. I DO THINK WE HAVE A SUGGESTION FROM THE CITY MANAGER ON THIS HOW THIS WORKS. WELL, I'M GOING TO BACK UP ON THE JOB DESCRIPTION TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD'S WORKING TO UPDATE THE JOB DESCRIPTION. I THINK THE APPROPRIATE METHODOLOGY IS TO SEND ME ANY CHANGES THAT YOU HAVE, AND THEN I'LL PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA WITH STRIKETHROUGH DELETION AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT WITH THE COMMISSION. AND IF THE STRIKETHROUGH DELETIONS LOOK GOOD, WE CAN FINALIZE THE DESCRIPTION. IF IT'S NOT ENOUGH, WE'LL DO THAT ITERATION AGAIN. BUT THE RELATIONSHIP WOULD BE TO SEND TO SEND ME YOUR YOUR COMMENTS AND WE'LL SEE IT PLAINLY IN THE STRIKETHROUGH DELETION AND THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE WILL CONSIDER THE JOB DESCRIPTION. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. WE CAN TAKE THAT MATTER UP FIRST. YEAH, WE CAN START THAT. WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS LOOK AT THE JOB DESCRIPTION, LOOK AT THE CHARTER, THE ALSO AND IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BY MONDAY, IF YOU HAVE SOME STRIKETHROUGH AND DELETIONS, THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT. I CAN HOLD HOLD THE AGENDA AND HAVE THAT ON THE 10TH FOR REVIEW OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION. IF IT'S SATISFACTORY, IT CAN BE VOTED ON AS A JOB DESCRIPTION AT THE 10TH. IF IT NEEDS ANOTHER ITERATION, WE CAN BRING IT BACK ON THE 24TH. BUT IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER THE APPLICANTS, MAYOR, WHAT I NEED TO DO IS BACK UP AND SET A TIME, CERTAIN DEADLINE FOR APPLICATION THAT MEETS THE AGENDA SCHEDULE OF THE 24TH. SO I'LL, I'LL WORK THAT OUT. SO IT'LL BE LIKE THE TUESDAY BEFORE THE THURSDAY BEFORE WE PUBLISH THE AGENDA. AND WE'LL JUST SET THAT AS A SCHEDULE FOR APPLICANTS TIME CERTAIN APRIL SO TIME CERTAIN APRIL 13TH. I THINK THE BEST WAY TO APPROACH IT IS IN INDIVIDUALLY THAT WE TAKE THOSE INDIVIDUALLY, RIGHT? I AGREE AND COME TO THE TABLE PREPARED TO MAKE A DECISION THROUGH OUR OWN PROCESS. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE CITY MANAGER WANTS TO ESTABLISH A DEADLINE FOR THE APPLICATION SO THAT HE CAN GET THEM ROLLED OUT TO YOU AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO WAIT. BUT UNTIL THEN, BUT TO GO AHEAD AND LET US KNOW WHO'S WHO IS IN THE POOL OF APPLICANTS. SO HOW'S THAT SOUND? SOUNDS GOOD. YES. OKAY. YES. AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FORMALLY I'M FORMALLY NODDING MY HEAD IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. WELL, NO, I WANT TO I WANT YOU TO MAKE A MOTION OF WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, AND THEN I WOULD SECOND IT AND THEN. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE WILL HAVE WE WILL WE WILL LOOK FOR APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED FROM OUR OWN EMPLOYEE POOL. WE WILL SOLICIT THOSE APPLICATIONS. JOHN WILL ESTABLISH A DEADLINE FOR THAT. AT THE SAME TIME. WE WILL THIS IS MY MOTION. WE WILL CITY MANAGER WILL TAKE INPUT ON ANY CHANGES TO THE JOB DESCRIPTION, ANY CHANGES OR UPDATES. [02:35:07] EACH COMMISSIONER WILL INDIVIDUALLY DO THEIR OWN HIRING INTERVIEWS, THEIR OWN INTERVIEWS, CONDUCT THEIR OWN INTERVIEWS. AT THE SAME TIME, EACH COMMISSIONER WILL TAKE PUBLIC INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY. WHETHER YOU WANT TO OR PREFERRABLE, YOU CAN LET THE CITY MANAGER KNOW WHETHER YOU LIKE IT BY BY EMAIL. PERSONALLY, I WOULD RATHER HAVE IT BY EMAIL. I'D HAVE I'D WANT TO SEE IT WRITTEN AND AND THAT WE WILL WE WILL COME BACK ON THE 10TH WITH THE ANY MODIFICATIONS FOR APPROVAL OF THE. JOB DESCRIPTION. THANK YOU. AND THEN FINALLY, WE WILL MAKE OUR DECISION ON APRIL 24TH. WE WILL COME PREPARED TO MAKE OUR DECISION ON APRIL 24TH. AND THAT IS THE MOTION. BUT I CAN SECOND IT UNLESS YOU WANT TO SECOND IT. OKAY, I WILL SECOND THAT. OKAY, GREAT. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN. I HAVE A QUESTION, AND THAT IS TO MAKE ON THE 24TH, MAKE A DECISION FOR A PERMANENT REPLACEMENT OF. CORRECT. OKAY. CORRECT. WE'LL BE PREPARED TO MAKE THAT DECISION THEN. SO I THINK THAT'S QUICK, QUICK AND TIMELY. I THINK THAT'S NOT QUICK, TIMELY. I THINK IT'S TIMELY. SO IN ENOUGH TIME FOR THE COMMUNITY TO DIGEST WHAT THEY'VE HEARD AND AND SAY WHAT THEY WHAT THEY THINK. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A VOTE? ONE MORE QUESTION. WHAT, WHAT WHAT ARE THE COMMUNITY GIVING INPUT TO IF WE'RE GOING TO PICK THEM ON THE 24TH? WHATEVER THEY THINK, WHAT THEY THINK, THE KIND OF CANDIDATE THAT THEY'RE. YES. WHAT KIND OF CANDIDATE THEY WANT TO SEE. WHO WHO DO THEY LIKE? THEY CAN CERTAINLY I'VE ALREADY HAD PHONE CALLS. I'VE HAD FOR DISCUSSIONS, UNSOLICITED AT LEAST. AND AND AND I HADN'T EVEN BEEN FORMALLY NOTIFIED THAT WE HAD TWO CANDIDATES, SO. RIGHT. SO, YEAH. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND YOU CAN EXPECT THAT BEING MORE THAN TWO. I MEAN, YOU DON'T KNOW AND YOU SHOULD EXPECT THAT. YOU SHOULD EXPECT THAT YOU WILL HEAR PEOPLE WILL GET TOGETHER AND COME TO YOU. AND JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, THAT WILL HAPPEN. SO. OKAY, SO LET'S. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE ALL COMFORTABLE. ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. NANCY SIKES-KLINE? YES. ROXANNE HORVATH? YES. CYNTHIA GARRIS. YES. BARBARA BLONDER. YES. JIM SPRINGFIELD. NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT THEN. UM, ANY OTHER ITEMS? MR. CITY MANAGER? UH, NO. OH, THANK GOODNESS. YEAH, I THINK I COULD TAKE ANYMORE. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE MOVED ON TO ITEMS BY MAYORS AND MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, AND I'LL HOLD MINE UNTIL A LOT OF TIMES Y'ALL BRING IT UP WHAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP. [14. ITEMS BY MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS] SO WE'LL START WITH. WOULD YOU HAVE YOU NEED TO LEAVE? OKAY. YES. YOU'RE EXCUSED. THANK YOU. TOTALLY. HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENING. ALL RIGHT. AND COMMISSIONER GARRIS, DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS? NO, I BASICALLY I THINK YOU'RE A MICROPHONE. I BASICALLY ALREADY MENTIONED ABOUT THE THE WEST KING STREET SIDEWALK TALKING WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. AND I BASICALLY DID ALSO SPEAK TO CHRISTIAN WHITEHURST ABOUT THAT. WE NEED TO STOP SAYING THAT THIS IS THAT'S A COUNTY THING AND THAT'S A CITY THING THAT WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE STRONGER TOGETHER WHEN WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AS WELL, AND THAT WE SHOULD JUST BE ABLE TO MAKE PHONE CALLS TO ONE ANOTHER TO ADDRESS ISSUES AND CONCERNS INSTEAD OF IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE BLAME GAME, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT MINE, IT'S YOURS AND SO FORTH. AND HE WAS IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH THAT. AND WE DID TALK TO HIM ABOUT SOME UPCOMING PROJECTS, THE SOUTH WHITNEY PROJECT THAT'S COMING UP TO BUILD UP SOUTH WHITNEY AND WEST KING STREET TO MAKE THAT BETTER AND TO GET SOME SIDEWALKS OVER THERE AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT WAS A GREAT MEETING AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MORE MEETINGS ON WORKING WITH PEOPLE TO CHANGE OUR CITY, TO MAKE IT BETTER AND MAKE IT STRONGER BECAUSE WE LIVE HERE, WE'RE NOT VISITING. WE LIVE HERE. SO JUST TO PUSH TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN IN ALL AREAS OF THE CITY. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD. YEAH. I WANT TO EXPRESS SOME DISAPPOINTMENT IN THE FPL AND THE WAY THEY CUT OUR TREES. RECENTLY, THEY'VE MASSACRED SOME BEAUTIFUL OAK TREES. AND I'VE HEARD I'VE GOTTEN SOME COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE AND I AND I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, TOO. IF MOST OF THE FPL EASEMENTS ON CITY PROPERTY. CORRECT. AND YOU ARE CORRECT. THERE IS A THERE IS A BILL GOING THROUGH THAT THE DOT WOULD HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER THIS KIND OF A THING. [02:40:04] AND I'M THEY SAID THAT WE THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO STUDY ANY PRESS, ANY ORDINANCE STRICTER THAN WHAT DOT REQUIRED. AND SO DO WE HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON FPL FOR CUTTING TREES OR NOT REALLY. I MEAN, WE TRY AND BE COOPERATIVE AND I THINK IN THE PAST THERE HAS BEEN, I'LL CALL IT GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENTS OR UNDERSTANDINGS ON HOW TO GENTLY TRIM OUR TREES, BUT THEIR STANDARD TEMPLATE IS PRETTY EXHAUSTIVE. IT GIVES THEM THAT AUTHORITY TO TRIM ANYTHING THAT THEY DEEM IS A DANGER TO THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE. SO IT IS TRICKY. THE BILL YOU'RE SPEAKING OF HAS TO DO WITH ANYTIME THERE IS A STATE OF EMERGENCY DECLARED. RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE IDEA IS LET THEM GO IN THERE AND JUST CUT EVERYTHING DOWN. RIGHT. AND I UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF HAVING IT CUT WAY BACK FOR US, KEEPING OUR ELECTRICITY ON DURING THE STORMS. BUT IT'S JUST A CONVENIENCE FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE TO DO IT EVERY TEN YEARS. AND I JUST JUST DISAPPOINTED IN FPL. I THINK OUR CITY MANAGER HAD A COMMENT. COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD, IF YOU IF WE COULD WORK TOGETHER AND GET THE SPECIFIC TREES AND ADDRESSES, THEY HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT TREE CONTRACTORS, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT DOESN'T REALLY DO THE WORK ACCORDING TO WHAT SHOULD BE THEIR STANDARD. I THINK IT'S WORTH REVIEWING AND ALERTING DOT THAT OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND LET THEM REVIEW IT. THEY DO DIRECTIONAL TRIMMING FOR POWER POLES. IT'S NOT WHAT WE'D WANT TO DO, BUT THEY DO. THEY'RE NOT A THEY'RE NOT INSENSITIVE TO THIS TOPIC. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WENT WRONG WITH THE CONTRACTOR. I'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT. I DID GET A NOTICE ON MY DOOR AND THEY DID EXPLAIN HOW THEY WERE GOING TO CUT. AND WHEN I SPOKE TO THEM PERSONALLY, I SAID, THAT'S NOT A GOOD WAY TO CUT A TREE. I SAID, WELL, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE DIRECTED TO DO. AND THEY CUT EVERY LIMB BACK TO THE TREE. BUT THAT'S IRREGARDLESS. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION IS, IS I HOPE WE CAN SUPPORT THE JUNETEENTH FESTIVAL IDEA. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE HAVE TWO VERY HISTORIC PEOPLE, THE TWO GENERALS THAT SIGN THE THE FINAL AGREEMENT TO END THE CIVIL WAR AND TO END THAT HORRIBLE THING. WE'RE FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE, ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE. SO WE'RE WE'RE I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE I WAS APPROACHED ABOUT THAT. THEY WANT IN FRONT OF THE LINCOLNVILLE MUSEUM, I GUESS FROM KINGS FERRY TO DE HAVEN CLOSED. AND WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. SO THAT AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS OR BARRICADES, WHATEVER THEY HAVE TO, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE LIKE CHILDREN DOING SOME DANCING AND THEY WOULD HATE TO SEE A CHILD RUN OUT AND GET RAN DOWN. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE IT, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WERE TOLD THEY COULDN'T DO IT THAT WAY. SO WE NEED TO SEE IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THEM. IT'S ONCE A YEAR. IT'S IMPORTANT. IT WAS MADE A GOVERNMENT HOLIDAY LAST YEAR. IT'S I KNOW IT'S A PAIN BEING ON THE SPECIAL EVENTS COMMITTEE. I SYMPATHIZE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO COME IN ON A HOLIDAY WHEN THEY HAVE THAT DAY OFF. HOWEVER, IT'S A ONE TIME OCCURRENCE. I WAS TRYING TO NAVIGATE THEM TO MAYBE PICK ANOTHER LOCATION, BUT THEY EXPLAINED THAT THEY HAVE THE COOPERATION OF THE MUSEUM AND THEY WERE DOWN AT TWO YEARS AGO. THEY WERE DOWN OVER THERE AT THE WILLIE GALIMORE CENTER. AND BECAUSE IT WASN'T SEEN, THEY DIDN'T GET THE ATTENTION THAT THEY WANTED. SO THEY WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO THE CORE, WHICH WAS CENTER CENTRAL STREET KNOWN AS MARTIN LUTHER KING TODAY. SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE PICKING THAT LOCATION. AND PLUS, IT GIVES SOME PRECEDENCE TO THE LINCOLNVILLE MUSEUM AS WELL. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK WE HAVE A, UM, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE MAYBE SOME CONTEXT. RIGHT. MEREDITH BREITENSTEIN, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. THE GROUP HAS COME TO THE EVENTS REVIEW COMMITTEE AND IT WAS REVIEWED. THE ALTERNATIVE TO CLOSING THE ROAD IS TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY THE USAGE OF EDDIE VICKERS PARK. WE KNOW THAT SMALLER FESTIVALS OR SMALLER EVENTS HAVE CLOSED THE ROAD, BUT BECAUSE THIS ONE SEEMED TO BE LARGER AND BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE SOME PLANNED DOT DETOURS THAT WOULD BE HAPPENING AT THAT SAME TIME. THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMITTEE WAS FOR SAFETY REASONS, TO NOT CLOSE THAT ROAD, BUT TO INSTEAD RELOCATE TO EDDIE VICKERS PARK POTENTIALLY. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE FINAL AGREEMENT WAS DURING THAT EVENTS REVIEW COMMITTEE OR IF THEY PLAN TO COME BACK. BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE EVENT ITSELF IS BEING APPROVED WITH OUT THE ROAD CLOSURE, BUT THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMITTEE WAS THERE FOR THE EVENT ITSELF. OKAY. I CAN BRING BACK MORE DETAIL FROM THE EVENTS REVIEW COMMITTEE AT THE NEXT MEETING IF THAT'S HELPFUL, SINCE I'M JUST KIND OF GOING OFF MY MEMORY FROM AN UPDATE. [02:45:01] OKAY, MR. CITY MANAGER, LET US LOOK INTO THE MATTER TOMORROW AND GET BACK. TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AND SEE AND GET A FULL UPDATE AS MS. BREIDENSTEIN DESCRIBED. AND AND I THINK THIS POINT OF PROMINENT LOCATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT. SO SO, YES, AND IT HAS BUT IT HAS BEEN A QUITE A WHILE SINCE THERE HAS BEEN A CLOSED STREET IN LINCOLNVILLE. I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE EVENT, BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. THEY CLOSED IT IN 2021 WHEN I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE. I MEAN, IT HAS BEEN CLOSED. IT'S NOT CLOSING THE STREET. IT'S CLOSING THAT AREA OF THE STREET. SO IT'S NOT CLOSING. SO YOU CAN JUST TURN DOWN THE STREET AND COME DOWN. YEAH, IT'S JUST REROUTING TRAFFIC. YEAH, REROUTING TRAFFIC. YOU'RE NOT CLOSING. OF COURSE YOU CAN'T CLOSE MARTIN LUTHER KING, BUT YOU CAN REROUTE SOME CARS. OKAY. WELL, OFFICER TRENT TOLEDO IS ACTUALLY HAS MORE INFORMATION THAN I DO. IF YOU WANT A QUICK UPDATE FROM THE COMMITTEE. SURE. YES. SERGEANT ANYONE ASKING POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'M ON THE SPECIAL EVENTS COMMITTEE, BASICALLY. THE JUNETEENTH EVENT WAS CAME TO US AND THEY WERE PROPOSING TO HAVE IT AT THE THE CHURCH PROPERTY ACROSS FROM SAINT PAUL'S, ALSO AT THE MUSEUM, AND I BELIEVE MAYBE SOME AT SAINT PAUL'S. THEY WANT MLK CLOSED BETWEEN FRANCIS AND KINGSBURY. NOW, IN THE PAST WE'VE GIVEN IT TO THE LINCOLNVILLE FEST, WHICH IS HELD IN NOVEMBER, AND WE CLOSE THAT SECTION OF ROAD DOWN. I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE WHEN THAT GOT APPROVED. UM, I WE'VE APPROVED IT TO THEM AND WE ALLOWED THEM TO HAVE IT EVERY YEAR. I DO NOT MAKE THE SUGGESTION OF GIVING IT TO ANYBODY ELSE JUST BECAUSE THERE'S BASICALLY TWO MAIN THOROUGHFARES GOING THROUGH LINCOLNVILLE, RIBERIA AND MLK. WHEN WE TAKE ONE OF THEM AWAY, IT JUST PUTS, I BELIEVE, TOO MUCH STRESS ON RIBERIA, WHICH WE'VE HEARD IN THE PAST OF ALL THE ISSUES ON RIBERIA. ALSO WITH DOT POSSIBLY BEING DETOURS AT THIS TIME THROUGH LINCOLNVILLE. IT'LL JUST BE THAT MUCH MORE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND INUNDATING RIBERIA. SO THAT'S BASICALLY I HAVE NO PROBLEM CLOSING A SIDE STREET TO GO FROM THE FIELD TO THE MUSEUM AND PEOPLE COULD WALK THAT WAY. BUT BASICALLY, UM, THE EVENT WAS GOING TO BE HELD ON THESE PRIVATE PROPERTIES AND THE STREET WAS GOING TO BE CLOSED FOR SAFE PASSAGE OF THE PEDESTRIANS FROM EVENT TO EVENT. UM, THERE CAN'T BE ANY STRUCTURES IN THE ROADWAY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ALWAYS VERY STRICT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES NEED TO GET THROUGH. SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED. AND YOU KNOW, WE KICKED AROUND A COUPLE IDEAS AND ONE SUGGESTION WAS FOR EDDIE VICKERS FIELD. THIS WEDNESDAY, THE GROUP IS COMING BACK. AND ALSO WE'RE MEETING WITH COUNTY OFFICIALS AS IT'S A COUNTY RUN FIELD ON CITY PROPERTY. THANK YOU. AND I'LL LET HIM SPEAK. YEAH, THERE'S MANY WAYS TO HELP DEFINE PROMINENT. AND I THINK. I THINK WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND AND LOOK AT THE ENTIRE EVENT, WHAT OUR SPONSORSHIP IS, WHAT WE CAN DO. IT IS A CITY HOLIDAY, BY THE WAY. IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT DATE. SO, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN IN THE REVIEW OF THE EVENT. IT'S GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS. KNOWING THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION. LET ME TAKE A REFRESHED LOOK WITH OUR TEAM ON HOW WE MIGHT HELP THEM HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL FESTIVAL WHILE MAYBE NOT SACRIFICING TRANSPORTATION SAFETY. OKAY. MADAM MAYOR, IF I COULD MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT WE REQUEST A REPORT OR A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF AT OUR NEXT MEETING ON THIS TOPIC, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE SOME CHOICES. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. WE'D LIKE TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU ON THAT. SO THANKS. AND I GET YOUR FRUSTRATION NOW, EVERYBODY BROUGHT UP IDEAS THAT I WAS PLANNING TO BRING UP. THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES. SO LIKE I SAID, THE JUNETEENTH EVENT WAS ON MY LIST AS AS WAS THE THE THE THE BARBARIC TREATMENT OF THE TREES BY THE CONTRACTORS THAT HAVE NO IDENTIFYING INFORMATION ON THE SIDES OF THEIR TRUCKS OTHER THAN THAT THEY ARE FPL CONTRACTOR. SO I COULDN'T EVEN CALL TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM SO IT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT'S ALSO HAPPENED IN DEL MAR. I GUESS IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWHERE THEY GO IN THE CITY TO CLEAR THE LINES WITH FPL. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. YEAH. SO BEEN YEAH. SO ANYWHERE THAT MIGHT BE STILL SURVIVING WOULD BE GREAT TO, TO ADDRESS THIS WITH FPL. I ALSO. WHERE I JUST LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT ENTIRELY. I JUST COME BACK TO YOU, YOU KNOW? THAT'S OKAY. I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE IT QUICK. [02:50:01] IT'S A LONG DAY. THE THE TASK THE TASK TRACKING LIST THAT YOU ALL HAVE PUT TOGETHER, I MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS REMARKS THAT THE I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME ATTENTION MADE TO THE ZORA NEALE HURSTON PARK. AND SO IF WE COULD ADD THAT ONTO THE LIST, THAT WOULD BE A BIG HELP FOR KEEPING US UPDATED ON THAT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT. YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE LIST. WE HAD IT AS A WORK IN PROGRESS AND BUT IT WILL BE ON THE NEXT LIST. THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. THANK YOU. PERFECT. OH, AND I WANTED TO THANK REUBEN FRANKLIN AND HIS TEAM FOR GETTING OVER THERE TO FLOWOOD AND DOING THE YELLOW CURBING. THEY DID GO OVER AND DO IT WHEN WE HAD ALL THE PEOPLE HERE THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING. OKAY, GREAT. SO I'LL GO LAST. THE ONLY THING THAT I HAD, BECAUSE IT'S ALL BEEN DONE IS THERE WAS A REQUEST AT PUBLIC HEARING FOR TO RESCHEDULE THE OPEN HOUSE ON THE 82 ACRES AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT GO ON THE LIST AS WELL. I'M SURE THERE'S PLANS IN THE WORKS, BUT BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER, IT WAS UNDERSTANDABLY CANCELED. BUT I THINK THAT IT'S DEFINITELY WORTH SHOWING IT OFF TO THE COMMUNITY EVERY CHANCE WE GET. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY, SO AND THAT UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, JUST ONE ONE FINAL THING. SOMEBODY COMMENTED EARLIER ON US NOT BEING AT THE CHARRETTE, SAYING THAT THEY COULDN'T BELIEVE THE COMMISSIONERS WEREN'T THERE. WE WERE GOING TO BE THERE. AND THEN WE WERE TOLD NOT TO BE THERE BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO BE VOTING ON THAT. SO IT WASN'T A DECISION THAT WE DECIDED NOT TO COME. IT WAS A DECISION THAT WAS MADE FOR US BY THE EVIL LAWYER. SO BLAME ME. YES. YES. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY THAT IT WASN'T AN OVERSIGHT ON OUR BEHALF BECAUSE WE WERE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND THEN WE'RE TOLD NOT TO ATTEND. SO I'M SORRY. YES. SO WE ARE VERY CONCERNED. THANK YOU. UM, ANYONE ELSE? WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MEETING ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.