>> ALL RIGHT THEN, [00:00:03] WE ARE CALLED TO ORDER. [1. CALL TO ORDER] [NOISE] MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> NANCY SIKES-KLINE. >> HERE. >> ROXANNE HORVATH. >> HERE. >> BARBARA BLONDER. >> HERE. >> CYNTHIA GARRIS. >> HERE. >> JIM SPRINGFIELD. >> HERE. >> FOR THE INVOCATION TODAY, WE HAVE PASTOR ANTHONY BRITT FROM THE MOUNT MORIAH CHRISTIAN MINISTRY. WILL YOU PLEASE STAND? AFTER WE HEAR THE INVOCATION, VICE MAYOR HORVATH WILL LEAD THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE, YOUR KINDNESS, YOUR GOODNESS, AND YOUR MERCY. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS. WE PRAY YOUR BLESSINGS UPON OUR MAYOR, EACH COMMISSIONER, OUR CITY MANAGER, AND EVERYONE THAT'S REPRESENTED IN LEADING THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE. WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THIS AGENDA TONIGHT. EVERY ITEM THAT WOULD IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS WILL BE LIFTED UP BEFORE YOU. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS BLACK HISTORY MONTH. WE THANK YOU FOR MR. CHASE AND HOW YOUR BLESSING HIM. WE ASK GOD, THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO USE EACH ONE OF US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IN THESE THINGS WE PRAY IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. >> PLEASE JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE. >> >> PLEASE BE SEATED. [NOISE] BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING TONIGHT, [NOISE] I JUST WANTED TO SAY WE HAVE MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW THIS AND MANY OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT A DEAR FRIEND TO THE CITY AND PAST MAYOR DID PASS YESTERDAY MORNING. IT WAS UNTIMELY DEATH AND BROUGHT A LOT OF SADNESS TO OUR COMMUNITY. I'M GOING TO ASK US TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REFLECT, A MOMENT OF SILENCE. JUST TO PONDER, OUR SHORT TIME ON THIS EARTH IN THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT WE HAVE IN COMMUNITY LEADERS. OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT INDULGENCE. [NOISE] THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS MODIFICATION AND APPROVAL OF OUR REGULAR AGENDA. [2. ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS] MR. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE AGENDA? >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, STAFF HAS NO MODIFICATIONS. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY MODIFICATIONS? >> I DO HAVE ONE. I'D LIKE TO ADD UNDER SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS ITEM 3B WILL BE A [NOISE] CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION TO THE MARIA JEFFERSON, DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION CHAPTER, NATIONAL SOCIETY OF DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. I WANT TO BE SURE AND GET THAT RIGHT. IF I COULD HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MOVED. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. [OVERLAPPING] >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE. >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING]. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> THANK YOU. WE WILL BEGIN. WITH THAT ITEM [NOISE] OUT OF THE WAY, WE DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION AND COMMISSIONER GARRIS WILL PRESENT THE PROCLAMATION [3.A. Proclamation 2023-07: Declaring February 2023 to be designated as Black History Month.] AND THIS IS YOUR PROCLAMATION TO PRESENT AND WHAT I WILL ASK YOU TO DO IS, SINCE IT'S A PROCLAMATION, WE CAN ALL STAND ALONGSIDE WITH YOU AND THEN YOU CAN INVITE YOUR HONORED GUESTS TO CELEBRATE AND PRESENT. >> OKAY. [NOISE] >> TESTING. [NOISE] WHEREAS THE 1926 BLACK HISTORIAN CARTER G. WOODSON BEGAN A WEEK LONG CELEBRATION THAT HAS SINCE GROWN INTO A MONTH DEDICATED TO REMEMBERING THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS, CONTRIBUTIONS, RESILIENCE, AND LEGACIES OF BLACK AMERICANS AT A TIME WHEN IT WAS NOT COMMONLY TAUGHT. WHEREAS AFTER THE CIVIL WAR ENDED IN APRIL 1865 UNITED STATES COLORED TROOPS, [00:05:06] SOLDIERS FROM ST. AUGUSTINE RETURNED TO CIVILIAN LIFE IN ST. AUGUSTINE. SEVERAL BLACK VETERANS WERE APPOINTED AND ELECTED TO PUBLIC OFFICE AFTER THE PASSAGE OF THE 15TH AMENDMENT. WHEREAS THERE WAS PUSH AGAINST BLACK OFFICIALS HOLDING OFFICE, WHICH LED TO AN ARGUMENT DURING A CIVIL CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN 1902. BLACK COUNCILMEN, JOHN PAPINO DISAGREE WITH WHITE CITY MARSHAL CHARLES BENET, OVER THE PURCHASE OF POLICE UNIFORMS. BENET SHOT PAPINO IN THE FACE, PAPINO SURVIVED AND BENET NEVER WENT TO TRIAL. AFTER PAPINO, NO MORE BLACK OFFICIALS WERE ELECTED TO THE COUNCIL FOR OVER 70 YEARS UNTIL 1973. WHEREAS IN 1973, AT THE SUGGESTION OF ST. PAUL'S, AME PASTOR, REVEREND THOMAS B. DESUE, ARNETT CHASE RAN FOR A SEAT ON THE ST. AUGUSTINE'S CITY COUNCIL, AND WON BY A LANDSLIDE, BEATING OUT FORMER MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER JAMES LINDSAY. HE BELIEVED THIS WAS DUE TO THE FACT THE CHASE FAMILY, ESPECIALLY HIS FATHER, LEO CHASE SENIOR, WAS A RESPECTED LONG TIME BUSINESSMAN IN ST. AUGUSTINE. MR. ARNETT CHASE WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN ELECTED AS A CITY COMMISSIONER SINCE THE RECONSTRUCTION. HE WAS WELL RECEIVED BY HIS FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND PROUDLY SERVE TWO YEARS. WHEREAS THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE IS PROUD TO HONOR THE HISTORY AND CONTRIBUTION OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT OUR STATE AND NATION. NOW, THEREFORE, THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA DECLARES NOVEMBER 2023 BE DESIGNATED AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND HONOR CHASE FOR HIS YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND CALLS UPON ALL THE CITIZENS TO CELEBRATE OUR DIVERSE HERITAGE AND CULTURE AND CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS TO CREATE A WORLD THAT IS MORE JUST, PEACEFUL, AND PROSPEROUS FOR ALL, AND WITNESS THERE WHETHER I HERE WANT TO SET MY HAND AND DO CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE TO BE A FIXED THAT THIS 13TH DAY OF FEBRUARY AND THE YEAR OF OUR LORD, 2023, AND THE FOUR UNDER IT AND 57TH YEAR OF THE FOUNDING OF ST. AUGUSTINE'S NATION'S OLDEST CITY. NANCY SIKES-KLINE, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY PERSONALLY, I'VE KNOWN MR. CHASE AND HIS FAMILY FOR A LONG TIME. THEY HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL. THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR MY FAMILY AND OTHER FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH A GREAT SERVICE THAT THEY DO AT HIS FUNERAL HOME AND IT'S SUCH A PRIVILEGE FOR YOU TO BE HERE TODAY. SO YOU WANT TO COME ON UP, YOU AND YOUR FAMILY? COME ON. THEY ALL CAME OUT FOR THIS. LET'S DO THIS. [APPLAUSE] BRING ALL YOUR GUESTS. >> THIS IS MY DAUGHTER, DAVIS. [BACKGROUND] >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME PICTURES. [BACKGROUND] >> THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, LET ME THANK THIS COMMISSION FOR THIS HONOR. IT'S SPECIAL TO ME BECAUSE THIS YEAR, 2023, MARKS 50 YEARS SINCE I WAS ELECTED AND IS A SPECIAL DAY IN MY LIFE. I'M STILL ALIVE TO SEE IT. [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO SERVED ALONG WITH ME, HALF OF THEM ARE GONE, BUT I'M STILL HERE, AND I'M GRATEFUL. I THANK YOU TOO COMMISSIONER GARRET BECAUSE YOU REALLY SURPRISED ME. I DIDN'T EXPECT ALL THIS. >> GOD BLESS YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. IF YOU WOULD STAY STANDING, PLEASE. [00:10:01] THANK YOU. [Additional Item*] [BACKGROUND] THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION. WHEREAS ON APRIL 2ND 1896, THE GREAT GRANDDAUGHTER OF THOMAS JEFFERSON, MARIAH JEFFERSON EPSHINE, INVITED SOME FRIENDS TO HER HOME IN ST. AUGUSTINE FOR THE PURPOSE OF FORMING A CHAPTER OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. WHEREAS MRS. SHINES FAILING HEALTH TOOK HER AWAY FROM ST. AUGUSTINE, AND SHE DIED ON SEPTEMBER 2, 1896, WITH THE DREAM OF HER CHAPTER UNREALIZED. WHEREAS AFTER A TEMPORARY PAUSE IN THE PROCESS, MS. ANNA S. WOODRUFF WHO HAD BEEN A LONGTIME MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL SOCIETY, WAS CONFIRMED AS ORGANIZING REGION ON FEBRUARY 3, 1898, AND THE CHARTER WAS GRANTED ON MARCH 26TH, 1898 WITH THE MARIAH JEFFERSON CHAPTER NSDAR BECOMING THE SECOND CHAPTER IN FLORIDA. WHEREAS THE MEMBERS OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION ARE DESCENDANTS OF PATRIOTS WHO HELPED CREATE OUR NATION DURING THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, WITH THE GOALS OF BEING HISTORIC PRESERVATION, EDUCATION, AND PATRIOTISM. WHEREAS IN ADDITION TO NUMEROUS PATRIOTIC EVENTS HELD ANNUALLY THIS YEAR, THE MARIAH JEFFERSON CHAPTER CONTRIBUTED ALMOST 4,500 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE AND WORKS WITH LOCAL SCHOOLS TO FOSTER HISTORICAL AWARENESS, PRESENTING MEDALS AND SCHOLARSHIPS TO LOCAL STUDENTS. WHEREAS THE MARIAH JEFFERSON CHAPTER WILL CONTINUE THEIR TRADITIONS OF SERVING THE COMMUNITY WHILE THEY HONOR THEIR FOUNDERS AND CONTINUE TO CHART THEIR FUTURE, ALWAYS KEEPING THE GOALS OF THE NATIONAL SOCIETY DAUGHTERS OF AMERICAN REVOLUTION AND SERVING THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE. NOW THEREFORE, THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE DOES HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND JOINS IN CELEBRATING 125TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE MARIAH JEFFERSON CHAPTER OF THE NATIONAL SOCIETY OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. WONDERFUL. I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WHO ARE HERE TO ACCEPT THIS CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION UP FORWARD SO THAT THEY MAY SAY A FEW WORDS AND GET A BIG PICTURE. THANK YOU. [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] COME ON UP. IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO SEE YOUR SMILING CROWD. YES, MA'AM. GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. CAME OFF WITHOUT A HITCH. MS. LYNN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS? >> WELL, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION. IT PAINTS A GREAT DEAL, AND WE CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY, WE ALWAYS WILL. OUR BIG EVENT, OF COURSE, IS CONSTITUTION WEEK, WHEN WE KICK OFF CONSTITUTION WEEK ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, AND WE EXPECT YOU ALL THERE. THE MAYOR WILL BE THERE. I KNOW SHE WILL, BECAUSE THE MAYOR ALWAYS COMES. WE THANK YOU AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE. THANK YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY. WONDERFUL. [APPLAUSE] SCOOCH IN FOR A PHOTO I THINK IT MAY BE TWO ROWS. >> [BACKGROUND] I CAN SEE EVERYBODY, READY? >> LET'S GET TO MORMON HERE. [BACKGROUND] [4. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS OR FOR AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING] THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. THIS IS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS OR FOR [00:15:03] AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE NOT REQUIRING A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF CARDS. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK AND HAVE NOT FILLED OUT A CARD, PLEASE DO SO AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE HEARD. FIRST, WE HAVE VICKI PEPPER. VICKI, IF YOU'LL COME AND SPEAK AFTER. WE HAVE ONE MORE. THANK YOU. FOLLOWED BY LAUREN GIBER. WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING. >> MY NAME IS VICKI PEPPER. >> MS. PEPPER, COULD YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE UP A LITTLE BIT, CLOSER THERE. WE WANT TO BE SURE AND BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS VICKI PEPPER. I LIVE ON HARBOUR VISTA CIRCLE IN ST. AUGUSTINE, AND I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING CARE; COMMUNITY ADVOCATES FOR RACIAL EQUITY. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE HERE AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF NEW COMMISSIONERS, SO I WANT TO REMIND THE CITY COMMISSION WHO CARE IT IS. WE'RE AN INFORMAL, INDEPENDENT, CIVIC ACTION GROUP THAT GREW OUT OF ST. AUGUSTINE'S ONGOING COMMUNITY CONVERSATION EFFORT. CARE'S PURPOSE IS TO SERVE BLACK AND OTHER UNDESERVED COMMUNITIES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY BY IDENTIFYING RESOURCES INCLUDING FUNDING SOURCES AND LINKING THEM WITH COMMUNITY NEEDS AS IDENTIFIED BY COMMUNITY LEADERS. I REALIZE I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR HERE, BUT WE NEED A PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO PROVIDE NEW TOOLS AND ACCESS TO ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDING THAT WILL HELP US ADDRESS OUR EVER-GROWING AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS. THE CITY COMMISSION RECOGNIZED THIS WHEN ON SEPTEMBER 12TH, LAST YEAR, YOU UNANIMOUSLY PASSED RESOLUTION 2022-31, SUPPORTING THE CREATION OF A COUNTY-WIDE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY, WHICH THEN MAYOR UPCHURCH THEN TRANSMITTED TO THE COUNTY. UNFORTUNATELY, AS I THINK, MOST IF NOT ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE, AT IT'S JANUARY 17TH MEETING, OUR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS VOTED 3-2 NOT TO PURSUE A PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY. CARE, AMONG OTHERS, HAD APPEARED AT THAT MEETING TO ADVOCATE FOR THE BOCC TO ESTABLISH AN INDEPENDENT PHA FOR OUR COUNTY, AND WE'RE NOT GIVING UP DESPITE THIS RECENT SETBACK. HAVING ENGAGED WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF ON THIS ISSUE, WE BELIEVE THERE REMAINS CONSIDERABLE MISUNDERSTANDING AND MISINFORMATION ABOUT HOW PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITIES WORK TODAY AND WHY ESTABLISHING ONE HERE IS A GOOD IDEA. AND CARE HAS LEARNED IN CONTINUING OUR OWN EDUCATION THAT APPARENTLY ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS ONE OF ONLY THREE COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT DOES NOT HAVE AT LEAST ONE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION. THIS MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE GIVEN THE MAGNITUDE OF THE CRISIS WE FACE HERE AND THE ADDITIONAL MEANS OF PROMOTING AND PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT AN INDEPENDENT PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY WOULD OFFER. CARE IS CONTINUING ITS DIALOGUE WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF, BUT CARE ALSO BELIEVES ALL OUR JURISDICTIONS AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY COULD COLLABORATE ON A COUNTY-WIDE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY USING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT, AND THAT THIS APPROACH MERITS FURTHER EXPLORATION BECAUSE IT COULD OFFER ADVANTAGES TO ALL THREE JURISDICTIONS. FINALLY, IN HER ROLE AS PRESIDENT OF COMPASSIONATE ST. AUGUSTINE, MY CARE COLLEAGUE, IRVIN BULLOCK HAS ORGANIZED A COMMUNITY IN STUDENT FORUM ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS FOR THIS THURSDAY AT 06:30 PM IN THE FLAGLER ROOM AT FLAGLER COLLEGE. IN FACT, I UNDERSTAND THAT BOCC CHAIR CHRISTIAN WHITEHURST PLANS TO KICK OFF THE EVENT. I'LL LEAVE SOME FLYERS AND I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO ATTEND AND OR HELP SPREAD THE WORD TO OTHERS IN CITY GOVERNMENT AND THE COMMUNITY. THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS IS ONGOING FOR MOST OF US AND THIS IMPORTANT EVENT WILL SERVE TO FURTHER THAT. I UNDERSTAND WE'LL BE HEARING MORE FROM THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER BIRCHAM LATER IN THE MEETING, BUT PLEASE, CONTINUE YOUR INTEREST AND ENGAGEMENT ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF ST. AUGUSTINE. STAY TUNED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. MS. LAUREN GIBER, FOLLOWED BY B.J. CLADY. >> GOOD EVENING, LAUREN GIBER. THIS MONTH WE OFFICIALLY CELEBRATE BLACK HISTORY. WE RECOGNIZE THE HARDSHIPS THAT WERE IMPOSED ON ENSLAVED BLACK PEOPLE. WE CELEBRATE THEIR ABILITY TO OVERCOME AND THE RICH CULTURE THAT THEY BROUGHT WITH THEM AND HAVE SHARED PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE AS AN INSPIRATION TO US ALL. IN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE THE LINCOLNVILLE MUSEUM AND CULTURAL CENTER THAT CELEBRATES AND RECOGNIZES THE BLACK COMMUNITY THAT CONTRIBUTED, AND CONTINUES TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY. I ASK YOU, WHY IS IT THAT THE TROLLEYS DO NOT INCLUDE THE LINCOLNVILLE MUSEUM AND CULTURAL CENTER AS ONE OF THEIR STOPS. [00:20:01] WHY IS IT THAT PRIVATE GROUPS HIRE A TROLLEY TO TAKE THEM ALL THROUGH THE CITY'S NARROW STREETS WITH THE CHAOTIC TRAFFIC IN DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS, THE SAME VEHICLES OF TRANSPORTATION ARE HINDERED FROM TAKING GROUPS TO THE LINCOLNVILLE MUSEUM AND CULTURAL CENTER. THIS NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED. FOR THIS MONTH, NOT ONLY DO WE SALUTE BLACK HISTORY, BUT WE ALSO SALUTE PRESIDENTS WASHINGTON AND LINCOLN WHO OVERSAW THE FREEDOM OF THIS COUNTRY; FREEDOM OF TYRANNY IMPOSED BY THE BRITISH, AND FREEDOM OF TYRANNY IMPOSED BY SLAVERY. FOR THIS, WE GIVE THANKS. FOR UNLESS WE ARE ALL FREE, NO ONE IS FREE. SEEKERS OF HISTORY AND KNOWLEDGE SHOULD BE FREE TO TAKE A TROLLEY AND VISIT THE LINCOLNVILLE MUSEUM AND CULTURAL CENTER. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. >> THANK YOU, MS. GIBER. MS. CLADY, I'LL LET YOU GO LAST. WE HAVE TWO CARDS THAT CAME IN BEFORE YOU. I'D LIKE TO INVITE PASTOR SANDS TO SPEAK NEXT. THEN AFTER PASTOR SANDS, PASTOR BRITTON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON TO THE MAYOR, THE COMMISSIONERS, CITY MANAGER, AND TO EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE. MY NAME IS PASTOR DELPHINE SANDS. I AM THE PASTOR OF THE REMNANT OUTREACH MINISTRY AND RIGHT NOW, WE ARE RENTING THE OLD SHILOH BUILDING. WE HAVE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 25-50 CHILDREN. THE REASON I'M HERE TONIGHT IS TO ASK FOR A CROSSWALK. WE NEED A CROSSWALK. THOSE CARS ARE FLYING. THERE'S NO SAFE WAY OUTSIDE OF HAVING SOME KIND PERSON TO STOP AND THEN ALLOW THE PEOPLE TO GO BY. BUT MY GREATEST FEAR IS THAT ONE OF THE CHILDREN ARE JUST GOING TO BOOK OUT THERE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS BECAUSE WE ARE TOTAL OUTREACH MINISTRY. IF YOU CARE TO SEE ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, YOU CAN LOOK ON ELDER DELHI SANDS FACEBOOK PAGE TO SEE WHAT WE DO IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE ARE VERY COMMUNITY ORIENTED, WHICH COMES WITH A LOT OF CHILDREN, AND WE WANT TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR THEM. THAT'S MY FIRST POINT. MY SECOND POINT IS, IT IS A HISTORICAL BUILDING. WHILE IT MAY NOT BE FULLY OPERATING UNDER THE NAME OF SHILOH, BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING AS THE REMNANT OUTREACH MINISTRY, IT IS STILL A HISTORICAL BUILDING AND IT NEEDS A LOT OF UPKEEP. I DO KNOW THAT THERE WERE FUNDING TO HELP HISTORICAL CHURCHES. EVEN IF WE CAN GET AN UPLIFT ON THE OUTSIDE, BECAUSE THERE'S A GREAT SIGN OUT THERE THAT TELLS THE HISTORY OF THAT CHURCH. IF YOU PASS BY, YOU CAN SEE A BOARD MISSING ON ONE SIDE. I THINK FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITY AT WHOLE, WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT OUR CITY AND OUR CHURCHES, THAT THEY SEE A CHURCH FROM THE OUTSIDE THAT REPRESENTS THAT SIGN BY THE ROAD. AMEN. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. >> THANK YOU. PASTOR ANTHONY BRITTON. >> MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, MR. REAGAN, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ALLOWING US, BEING MYSELF AND PASTOR SANDS, I WANT TO ADD VOICE TO THE NEED FOR THE CROSSWALK, NOT ONLY FOR THE CHILDREN, BUT A LOT OF OUR ELDERS. AS PROGRESS COMES TO WEST ST. AUGUSTINE AND CERTAINLY WESTERN AUGUSTINE IS GROWING, THAT'S THE AREA THAT THAT CROSSWALK WOULD BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO. WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THAT SIGN YOU ALL THAT WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY. WHEN YOU COME THERE BY SHILOH, THAT WAS THE GATEWAY BETWEEN OUT WEST AND WHAT WE CALL OVER TOWN. IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE I WAS A KID. THERE IS A NEED, 45 MILES AN HOUR FORCE COMING DOWN THAT HILL, SO WE NEED THAT SAFETY PIECE. WE WANT TO THANK YOU IN ADVANCE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO GROWING WEST SAINT AUGUSTINE AND OUR GREAT COUNTY. I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AS MS. VICKI PEPPER STOOD UP AND TALKED ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE ALL KNOW THE DEAL. I WANT TO ADD VOICE TO THAT AS WELL. NOT ONLY AM I THE PASTOR OF NEW MOUNT MORIAH CHRISTIAN MINISTRY, BUT ALSO THE FOUNDER OF THE NEHEMIAH PROJECT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. MEANING THERE'S A COALITION OF PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT AGES COMING TOGETHER AND SAYING, LISTEN, WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF WE STAND UNITED, AND GET IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING, MADAM MAYOR, [00:25:03] TO WHAT MR. REAGAN IS DOING IN THE REST OF THE COUNTY AND LEADERSHIP. BECAUSE TOGETHER Y'ALL, WE KNOW ST. AUGUSTINE AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY, WE LEAD IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICA, LET'S LEAD IN THE PROGRESS GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SHARE. >> THANK YOU. MS. B.J. COLLETTI. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. BJ COLLETTI WEST CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, 13A NIGHTLIFE OFFICE SHOULD NOT BE NEXT STEP FOR ST. AUGUSTINE. PAGE 6, NIGHTLIFE TEAM DID NOT INCLUDE RESIDENTS AFFECTED BY DRINKING UNTIL 02:00 AM. PAGE 4, INSUFFICIENT POLICE RESOURCES. SHOOTING DEATH SCARLETT O'HARA'S 123122, WHITE LINES SECURITY HIT, NINE POLICE OFFICERS. FEBRUARY 2ND, 2023, SHOOTING DEATHS, 213 ANASTASIA BOULEVARD 20 POLICE. PAGE 46, DISINCENTIVE TO ARREST PEOPLE. MORE POLICE WORKING OFF DUTY THAN ON DUTY. PAGE 9, OPERATORS NOT TRUTHFUL ABOUT BUSINESS PLANS, LACK CLARITY BETWEEN POLICE AND CODE COMPLIANCE. PAGE 19, OFFICE OF NIGHTLIFE SHOULD NOT BE AN OPTION. THEN THE BARS NEED TO CLOSE AT 12 MIDNIGHT. PAGE 23, BENEFIT OPERATORS NOT RESIDENTS WITH THE ORDINANCE. PAGE 44, ORDINANCE. 2021-18, OPERATORS BARS, NOT RESIDENTS MODIFYING THE ORDINANCE. PAGE 57 THROUGH 60, ADD-ON MEETING WITH CITY MANAGER FOR OPERATORS, NOT RESIDENTS, I DID ATTEND. PAGE 68, 70, LIST OF PARTICIPANTS. THIS SUMMER REPORT IS DATED JUNE 2022. AS A PARTICIPANT, IT'S DISAPPOINTING THE BOTTOM LINE OF OPERATORS INSTEAD OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND DOWNTOWN, AND ALL NEIGHBORHOODS SEEMS TO BE THE RESULT OF THE PAID CONSULTANT STUDY. ESTABLISHING AN OFFICE OF NIGHTLIFE WILL CONTINUE TO DESTROY THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE. REMEMBER, 25% OF PROPERTIES IN THE CITY DO NOT PAY TAXES. THE CITY AND OPERATORS DO NOT HAVE THE DOLLARS TO CONTROL NIGHTLIFE DRINKING AFTER 12 MIDNIGHT. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF MINUTES. 10A, 450 NORTH HOMES BOULEVARD HOUSING SHOULD BE LIMITED TO VERY LOW-INCOME AND LOW-INCOME INDIVIDUALS. PROPERTY AT 241 RIBERIA STREET, PARCEL NUMBER 210-260-0000 IS LISTED ON THE COUNTY'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING INVENTORY LIST. THE CITY SHOULD WORK WITH THE COUNTY SO THIS PARCEL WILL BE DEVELOPED FOR LOW-INCOME PERSONS. ALSO THE TWO PASTORS, THEY GOT UP WE WERE LISTENING, BUT CAN THEY TELL US THE ADDRESS OF WHERE THEY WANT THAT CROSSWALK IF YOU ALL CAN GIVE THAT TO US, WE'D APPRECIATE IT. ALSO MAYOR, YOU MENTIONED THE PASSING OF SOMEONE. I DON'T REMEMBER YOU SAYING WHO IT WAS. THANK YOU. >> MY DEEPEST APOLOGIES. FORMER MAYOR GREG BAKER. >> THAT ADDRESS IS 272 WEST KING STREET THAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR THE, 271 WEST KING. [OVERLAPPING] >> 271 WEST KING STREET IS THE LOCATION OF THE REQUEST FOR THE CROSSWALK. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS IN THE COUNTY. >> NO, IT'S IN THE CITY. >> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, IT IS IN THE CITY LIMITS, HOWEVER, THE COUNTY MANAGES THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD AND WHAT WE HAVE HAD TO DO IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE ASKED WE HAVE DONE A CROSSWALK WORKING WITH THE COUNTY IN WEST AUGUSTINE, THERE'S A CROSSWALK RIGHT ACROSS FROM, I BELIEVE IT'S AMAR BEAUTY SALON. IS IT THE CORNER OF LEONARDI? ALMOST. IT'S A MID-BLOCK CROSSING, BUT WE DID WORK WITH THE COUNTY, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE. IT'S GOING TO TAKE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT IS IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT SECTION OF THE ROADWAY. NO, MA'AM. IF I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE SPEAK WITH CITY MANAGER IF POSSIBLE AND HE CAN TALK WITH YOU FURTHER UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD. >> MAYOR I WOULD ASK MR. FRANKLIN TO GET WITH THE SPEAKER AND TRADE SOME PHONE NUMBERS SO WE CAN COORDINATE. >> PERFECT. MR. REUBEN FRANKLIN IS IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM AND IF YOU WOULD TRADE PHONE NUMBERS WITH HIM, I THINK HE CAN PROBABLY EXPLAIN THE PROCESS TO YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. [5. CONSENT AGENDA] MR. CITY MANAGER. >> ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA, THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCES ARE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR A SECOND READING ON FEBRUARY 27TH, 2023 ORDINATES 2023-08. WE HAVE A REMINDER OF UPCOMING MEETINGS. FEBRUARY 27TH, 2023, 4:30 PM PRESENTATION OF THE DIABOLI'S AWARD. [00:30:06] FEBRUARY 27TH, 2023, 5:00 PM REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING. MARCH 13, 2023, 5:00 PM REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING. MARCH 20TH, 2023, 1:00 PM SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING. MARCH 27TH, 2023, 5:00 PM REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING. WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION TO ST. JOHN'S HOUSING PARTNERSHIP, RECOGNIZING THEIR 25 YEARS OF SERVICE. WE HAVE THE CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION 2023-02 CR 125TH UNIVERSITY OF MARIA JEFFERSON CHAPTER OF THE NATIONAL SOCIETY OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION AWARDED EARLIER. WE HAVE PROCLAMATION 2023-04 IRISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION 2023-01 CR 110TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FOUNDING OF DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY. NOTIFICATION OF PRESENTATION OF THE DIABOLI'S AWARD. NOMINATION OF LESLIE KEYS FOR THE ADELAIDE SANCHEZ AWARD. APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN OF THE ENTRY SIGN ON ANASTASIA ISLAND, APPROVAL OF TITLE 6 DOCUMENT FOR THE CITY STAR CIRCULATOR. AN INVOICE IN THE BAKER HAUSER PONDS ASSOCIATES MADEIRA SUBDIVISION MATTER OF $1765.50. >> THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENTED, OR ANY COMMENTS? ANY COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. >> I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT, ONE QUESTION. THE NOMINATIONS THAT ARE IN THERE AND THIS IS PROBABLY A PROCEDURAL QUESTION. THERE'S NOT ANY BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THESE PEOPLE OR RESUME, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S TYPICALLY EXCLUDED? I KNOW THEY GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO BE APPROVED TO QUALIFY. >> YES. >> I KNOW THAT FOR DR. KEYES, THERE IS A RESUME THAT MELISSA WHISTLE HAS, BUT I DON T KNOW THAT PROCEDURALLY WE SEE THOSE. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> YEAH, I KNOW DR. KEYES, BUT I DON'T REALLY KNOW HER FULL HISTORY. >> MS. WISSEL WILL YOU TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS? >> MELISSA WISSEL, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR. GOOD EVENING. THE PROCESS FOR ANY OF THE NOMINATIONS IS THAT A COMMISSIONERS PUTS FORTH THE NOMINATION WITH A LETTER OF REQUEST. IN THIS CASE, IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR MORE OF THAT DOCUMENTATION, I CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE IT HISTORICALLY. THERE'S NOT EVER BEEN ACCOMPANYING DOCUMENTATION. USUALLY, THE LETTER IS SUFFICIENT, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO GET THAT TO YOU. I HAVE THE RESUME AND CV FOR DR. KEYES AS WELL AS MR. WEAVER. >> THANK YOU. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'D THINK THAT IN THE FUTURE WE MIGHT WISH TO MODIFY WHEN IT'S INITIALLY PUT ON THE AGENDA? >> YEAH, I WAS THINKING WOULD BE A NICE THING TO REVIEW. >> SOME BACKGROUND MATERIAL SINCE DIDN'T WE MAY NOT ALL BE FAMILIAR WITH THE CANDIDATES. >> I AGREE. I MEAN, HER RESUME IS SO IMPRESSIVE. THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND BUT [INAUDIBLE] HAVE SEEN IT. NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. >> CORRECT. I'M NOT QUESTIONING THAT AT ALL [OVERLAPPING]. >> NO. I THINK IT'D BE GREAT TO SEE THE BACKGROUND BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME IMPRESSIVE INDIVIDUALS. [OVERLAPPING] >> ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE IT BECAUSE THEY READ THESE AS WELL. >> SURE. >> THANK YOU. >> LET ME LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT I SEEK CONSENSUS AMONG THE COMMISSION TO MODIFY OUR PROCEDURE APPROPRIATELY. >> YES. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. UNDER OUR CONSENT AGENDA CA 0.2, WE SAY ORDINANCE 2023-08, BUT WE DON'T SAY WHAT IT IS. >> IT'S MINE. THAT'S THE BOATING ORDINANCE. WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT TODAY. >> OKAY. I WAS JUST HOPING THAT MAYBE WE COULD PUT THAT IN OUR CONSENT AGENDA SO IF ANYBODY ELSE IS READING IT. THANK YOU. >> THERE ARE NO GENERAL PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS OR ITEMS OF GREAT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE OR OTHER ITEMS REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 8, [8.A.1. Ordinance 2023-06: Amends the Future Land Use Designation of a portion of 865 Fish Island Road south of State Road 312 from Public to Commercial Medium Intensity.] WHICH IS A SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES, BEGINNING WITH ORDINANCE 2023-06. MS. SKINNER. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS AMY SKINNER. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THESE TWO ORDINANCES ARE RELATED. THE FIRST ITEM IS THE SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING FOR ORDINANCE 2023-06, [00:35:01] FOR AN APPROXIMATE 2.3 ACRE PIECE OF CITY PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF STATE ROAD 312. THIS ORDINANCE IS A LAND USE PLAN MAP AMENDMENT, CHANGING THE LAND USE FROM PUBLIC TO COMMERCIAL MEDIUM INTENSITY, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMERCIAL DESIGNATIONS AND STATE ROAD 312. THE SECOND ITEM IS A SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING FOR ORDINANCE 2023-07, WHICH IS A COMPATIBLE REZONING FOR THE SAME PROPERTY FROM GOVERNMENT USE TO CM-2, THE COMMERCIAL MEDIUM 2 ZONING DISTRICT WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. THE PCB RECOMMENDED THESE CHANGES ON JANUARY 3RD, AND THE CITY COMMISSION HELD A FIRST READING ON JANUARY 23RD. WITH THE ADOPTION OF THESE ORDINANCES, THE PROPERTY WOULD BE COMMERCIALLY DESIGNATED. EVEN THOUGH BOTH OF THESE ITEMS DEAL WITH THE SAME PROPERTY, THEY SHOULD BE SEPARATED AS AS FAR AS HOW YOU MOVE FORWARD. I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? CAN WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING FOR BOTH ITEMS SINCE THEY RELATE? >> NOT REALLY. I THINK WE'VE HAD ONE PRESENTATION. THE FIRST ORDINANCE 2023-06, IS A COMPLAIN CHANGE, AND THAT'S A LEGISLATIVE MATTER. BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO DISCLOSE EX PARTE, THE FOLKS WANTING TO CHAT DON'T NEED TO BE PUT UNDER OATH. BUT FOR THE SECOND ORDINANCE, THEY DO HAVE TO BE PUT UNDER OATH AND YOU WILL HAVE TO DISCLOSE EX PARTE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER. WE WILL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM A1 AND I HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD, AND THAT'S MS. BJ COLLETTI. >> BJ COLLETTI WAS CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE. I JUST HAD A QUESTION. WE'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS. MY QUESTION IS THE NORTH PORTION OF 865 FISH ISLAND ROAD, NORTH OF 312 WITH THE TOWERS. IS THIS ONLY FOR THE TRAINING OF THE FIRE AND POLICE STAFF? IF WE CAN KNOW THAT IN THE PRESENTATION, AND IF MS. SKINNER HAS A MAP THAT WOULD SHOW US WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS BECAUSE IT'S ALSO ON THE NORTH PORT OF 312 AND IT'S ALSO ON THE SOUTH PORT OF 312, THAT WE'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY, I BELIEVE SO. THE SOUTH PORT, NOT THE NORTH PORT. IT MIGHT HELP EVERYBODY TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M ASKING FOR ON THAT A1. >> THANK YOU. YES, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MAPS WE CAN LOOK AT. >> OKAY, GREAT. >> THIS IS THE EXISTING LAND USE MAP. THIS IS THE STATE ROAD 312 CORRIDOR. THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 2.3 ACRES, THAT IS BEING SEPARATED FROM THE PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE NORTH. THE CITY'S RETAINING THIS PROPERTY FOR ITS OWN USE. THIS PROPERTY, I BELIEVE THE INTENTION IS TO SELL THIS OFF AS A COMMERCIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY. THAT'S THE EXISTING LAND USE. THIS IS WHAT THE LAND USE MAP WOULD LOOK LIKE AFTER THE ORDINANCE IF IT IS ADOPTED AND WHEN IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE. THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR ALONG 312 WOULD BE COMMERCIAL. I ALSO HAVE A MAP FOR THE ZONING. THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP. IT SHOWS ALMOST THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE. IT'S ALL GOVERNMENT USE RIGHT NOW. THIS SOUTHERN PORTION HERE IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE REZONED TO THE CM-2 ZONING. IF THIS IS ADOPTED THEN THE ZONING MAP WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS IN THE FIELD. THE COMMERCIAL ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMERCIAL LAND USE IN THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. >> QUESTIONS. >> I DO. WHO OWNS 764? >> THIS I BELIEVE IS ALSO CITY PROPERTY, I MAYBE CORRECT? >> YES. [00:40:01] >> THROUGH THE MAYOR, THAT PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE CITY AND THAT LITTLE FEATURE ON IT IS A LIFT STATION THAT SERVES THE DEVELOPMENT ON PLANTATION ISLAND DRIVE SOUTH. >> WELL, WHAT BROUGHT MY MIND TO THIS IS THAT ALL THE PROPERTIES ON 312 ARE NOT ACCESSED FROM 312, THEY'RE ACCESSED FROM PLANTATION DRIVE OR ON THE NORTH SIDE FROM A DRIVE, BUT NOT FROM 312. ALONG WITH THIS, WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE THEM AN EASEMENT THROUGH THIS CITY PROPERTY TO ACCESS? >> I WOULD THINK SO, BUT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM FOR US BECAUSE THE THE AREA THAT WE NEED FOR OPERATIONS, FOR MAINTENANCE OR RECONSTRUCTION OF THE LOOP STATION IS ALREADY INCORPORATED INTO WHAT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A SQUARES POSTED STAMP. >> RIGHT. >> TO PROVIDE ACCESS, A LITTLE EASEMENT JUST TO THE WEST OF THE LOOP STATION WHEN [OVERLAPPING] >> I WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT WAS NOT OWNED BY A THIRD PERSON. THANK YOU. >> I BELIEVE DAVID BIRCHIM MAY HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION. >> MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE IN FACT GOING TO CUT OFF THIS. WE'RE DRAWING A LINE AROUND THAT AND DESCRIBING THE LIFT STATION. WE ARE NOT SELLING THAT PORTION OF THE PUBLIC UTILITY AND THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF AREA AVAILABLE FOR A DRIVEWAY. WE WILL NOT HAVE TO PLACE AN EASEMENT OVER OUR PROPERTY. THAT'S ALL. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, DEBATE? >> NO. >> I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2023-06, AND READ BY TITLE ONLY. >> PASSED. >> PASSED. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-06, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FLAM DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 2.32 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF STATE ROAD 312 BEING A PORTION OF 865 FISH ISLAND ROAD BETWEEN 700 PLANTATION IRELAND DRIVE SOUTH AND 950 PLANTATION IRELAND DRIVE SOUTH AND THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE IS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREINAFTER FROM ITS CURRENT DESIGNATION OF PUBLIC TO A DESIGNATION OF COMMERCIAL MEDIUM INTENSITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THANK YOU. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> ROXANNE HORVATH? >> YES. >> BARBARA BLONDER? >> YES. >> CYNTHIA GARRIS? >> YES. >> JIM SPRINGFIELD? >> YES. >> NANCY SIKES-KLINE? >> YES. >> ON THIS ORDINANCE 2023-07, [8.A.2. Ordinance 2023-07: Amends the zoning of a portion of 865 Fish Island Road south of State Road 312 from Government Use District (GU) to Commercial Medium-Two (CM-2).] WE WILL NEED TO BEGIN WITH EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. [OVERLAPPING] WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER GARRIS. DO YOU HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS ON THIS ITEM? >> NO. >> NO. >> NO. >> I DON'T HAVE NONE. >> NO. >> GREAT. THAT PART'S DONE AND WE WILL OPEN ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ITEM CLARIFICATIONS FOR MS. SKINNER BEFORE WE GO ON TO PUBLIC HEARING? WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE ONE CARD AND WE DO NEED TO BE SWORN IN. MS. COLLETTI. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> I DO. BJ COLLETTI WEST CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE. I LIKE THIS PICTURE. I LIKE MS. SKINNER'S PICTURE. HERE'S MY QUESTION. TO CLARIFY IT. WAS THIS PORTION OF PARCEL ID 16193 AND FIVE ZEROS, CONSIDERED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INSTEAD OF SELLING BECAUSE THIS IS THE NORTH PART. THIS IS, WHAT'S THAT STREET? >> FISH ISLAND. >> THANK YOU. VERY GOOD EYES. FISH ISLAND ROAD. HERE'S 312. THIS DOWN HERE IS THREE. [NOISE] I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT SO YOU CAN SEE IT. THIS BIG ROAD DOWN HERE. THERE. THAT'S 312. I'M USING THE RIGHT [INAUDIBLE]. NOW, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING [INAUDIBLE]. >> MS. COLLETTI, WOULD YOU PLEASE BRING THE MICROPHONE DOWN TO YOUR MOUTH? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY MOUTH UP TO IT. I GOT YOU. >> CAN'T HEAR YOU. >> THIS IS 312. THIS IS THIS AREA OVER HERE, FISH ISLAND ROAD. [00:45:03] BUT IT'S ON THIS SIDE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS PRESENTED. BEFORE WE DECIDE TO SELL THIS THING, DID WE THINK ABOUT MAYBE PUTTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THIS SIDE? I KNOW IT'S NOT AS BIG MAYBE AS YOU WANT TO HAVE IT, BUT DID ANYONE THINK ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE WHEN ALL OF THIS WAS BEING DISCUSSED THAT IT WAS ON THE SOUTH SIDE TOO. I THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS ON THE NORTH SIDE WHENEVER IT WAS FIRST BROUGHT UP. THAT'S MY QUESTION. DID ANYONE THINK ABOUT THAT OR MAYBE YOU'RE THINKING BECAUSE YOU GET MORE MONEY TO SELL IT THAN TO DO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ALL THIS. BUT I WAS THINKING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS WHAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT AND THIS WOULD BE PERFECT BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT AROUND EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY NEED TO GO TO WORK AND EVERYTHING. THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. THERE'S THAT PICTURE. I HAVE TO GIVE THIS PICTURE AWAY. DO I HAVE TO GIVE IT AWAY NOW, MS. DARLENE? THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MS. COLLETTI. >> MADAM MAYO? >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES. >> WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH HAVING MR. BERTRAM COME UP AND GIVE A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF ALL THAT WE DID WHEN WE WERE CONSIDERING ALL THREE CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES, UNLESS HE'S GOING TO DO THAT IN ADVANCE OF HIS PRESENTATION ON 450 NORTH HOLDS. >> MR. REAGAN, IS UP. >> SURE. >> IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >> I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU, BUT I CAN ANSWER MS. COLLETTI'S QUESTION. YOU IN FACT DID CONSIDER THIS PROPERTY. YOU CONSIDERED IT ON HOLD ON. I GOT IT RIGHT HERE. ON JANUARY 24, 2022, A YEAR AGO. WE MADE A PRESENTATION OUTLINING YOUR OPTIONS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT INCLUDED THE PROPERTY THAT YOU JUST SAW ON PLANTATION I OWN DRIVE. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH WHICH YOU DEDICATED AS A PUBLIC PARK, ALSO HAS THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH IS USED FOR POLICE AND FIRE TRAINING. THE THIRD PROPERTY WAS THE HOMES BOULEVARD PROPERTY, WHICH YOU'LL SEE LATER ON THIS EVENING. INDEED, YOU DID HAVE A VERY ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PROPERTY AND I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THEM. MY GUESS IS MS. COLLETTI WAS HERE FOR THAT. I'D HAD TO GO BACK AND LOOK. [LAUGHTER] >> THAT QUESTION ANSWERED. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO MORE DISCUSSION. WE'RE READY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO PASS ORDINANCE 2023-07, READ BY TYLE OMI AND PASSED. >> SECOND. >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-07 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA REZONING APPROXIMATELY 2.32 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF STATE ROAD 312 BEING A PORTION OF 865 FISH ISLAND ROAD BETWEEN 700 PLANTATION ISLAND DRIVE SOUTH AND 950 PLANTATION ISLAND DRIVE SOUTH IN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE IS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN AFTER FROM ITS CURRENT CLASSIFICATION OF GOVERNMENT USE DISTRICT GU TO THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE CLASSIFICATION OF COMMERCIAL MEDIUM TWO, CM2, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> ROXANNE HORVATH? >> YES. >> JIM SPRINGFIELD? >> YES. >> CYNTHIA GARRIS? >> YES. >> BARBARA BLONDER? >> YES. >> NANCY SIKES-KLINE? >> YES. ON WE GO TO ITEM 9A, [9.A.1. Ordinance 2023-08: Amendment to regulation and posting of idle speed no-wake zones.] ORDINANCE 2023-08. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY? >> YES. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS THE CONTINUATION OF OUR DIALOGUE I SUPPOSE WE COULD CALL IT, WITH THE FISH AND WILDLIFE COMMISSION REGARDING VOTING CONDITIONS AROUND HOSPITAL CREEK AND ADJACENT TO BIRD ISLAND OR JULIA'S ISLAND. YOU'LL RECALL THAT BACK IN AUGUST WE ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE CREATING IDLE SPEED, NO WEAK ZONES AROUND THOSE SHARP CURVES IN AND OUT OF HOSPITAL CREEK AND ALONGSIDE JULIA'S ISLAND OR BIRD ISLAND. WE HAD TESTIMONY ABOUT THE SAFETY CONCERNS THERE, [00:50:02] THE ECOLOGICAL CONCERNS AND SO ON. WE HAD PRETTY WIDESPREAD SUPPORT, I THINK, FROM FELLOW AGENCIES LOCALLY AND OTHERS, AND PART OF THE PROCESS IS WE HAVE TO SEND THAT OFF TO THE FISH AND WILDLIFE COMMISSION FOR THEIR REVIEW. WE DID RECEIVE COMMENTS BACK FROM THEIR SENIOR STAFF AND ESSENTIALLY THEY CONCURRED THAT THE SHARP CURVES ON HOSPITAL CREEK WERE A DANGEROUS SITUATION AND THEY WOULD SUPPORT OUR ORDINANCE AS FAR AS THAT WAS CONCERNED, BUT THEY COULD NOT SUPPORT OUR REGULATIONS ADJACENT TO BIRD ISLAND OR JULIA'S ISLAND AT THIS TIME. THEIR SUGGESTION WAS THAT WE ATTEMPT A VESSEL TRAFFIC STUDY TO SUPPORT OUR PROPOSED REGULATIONS NEXT TO JULIA'S ISLAND OR BIRD ISLAND. TODAY WE ARE AMENDING THE ORDINANCE WE PASSED IN AUGUST TO LIMIT IT TO JUST THOSE SHARP CURVES BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE CONSENSUS FROM THE FWC STAFF THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THEY CAN SUPPORT AND TAKE TO THEIR ENTIRE COMMISSION AND I KNOW THAT OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF ARE LOOKING AT METHODOLOGIES TO GET A CONCURRENCE FROM FWC STAFF ON WHAT METHODOLOGY THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO SUPPORT THE SLOW VESSELS STUDY ADJACENT TO JULIA'S ISLAND. IT'S HERE ON YOUR FIRST READING, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING BUT OF COURSE YOU'RE WELCOME TO OPEN IT UP IF YOU SO WISH. >> COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? YES. >> YOU KNOW I WILL. >> YES. >> [LAUGHTER] FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO BE SURE TO THANK STAFF IN PARTICULAR, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, MS. LOPEZ, AND MR. JB MILLER. YOU'VE DONE A BEAUTIFUL JOB OF WRAPPING THIS THING [LAUGHTER] IN A NICE BOW AND I KNOW IT HASN'T BEEN EASY. THIS WAS AN UPHILL BATTLE AND WE GOT HALFWAY THERE, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO ASK IS PROCEDURALLY, I KNOW I'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. JB MILLER ABOUT POSSIBLE WAYS THAT THE FISH AND WILDLIFE COMMISSION COULD ACCEPT OUR METHODOLOGY AND HE'S LOOKING AT THAT VERY HARD. I KNOW MR. FRANKLIN IS WORKING WITH HIM ON THAT AS WELL. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE KEPT ABREAST, I GUESS, OF HOW THAT PROCESS IS GOING AND ANY WAY THAT THE COMMISSION CAN HELP ADVOCATE FOR A PARTICULAR METHODOLOGIES, WHETHER THEY'D BE NEW TECHNOLOGIES OR STUDENTS SITTING ON A BOAT COUNTING BOATS. I JUST LIKE TO BE KEPT ABREAST SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THIS PROCESS MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE PICTURES IN OUR PACKAGE, IT SEEMS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO ME THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF BOATS AND THAT WAS INITIALLY WHERE WE STARTED WITH THIS. IT'S NOT JUST THE BLIND CURVES, BUT THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE SWIMMING IN THAT WATER AS BOATS ARE SPEEDING BY AND THERE IS A TRAGEDY AWAITING, SO I HOPE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS WITH ALL DUE SPEED. THANK YOU. >> WELL SAID. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO AGREE BECAUSE [NOISE] I BOATED THAT AREA A LOT AND IT IS A DANGEROUS SPOT. CHILDREN PLAY IN SWIMMING ON RAFTS AND THAT KIND OF THING. THEN AS YOU GO DOWN FARTHER SOUTH IN DEVIL'S ELBOW, WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL SITE, YOU HAVE TO STOP AND GO SLOW AND THERE ARE VERY FEW BOATS COMING IN AND OUT OF DEVIL'S ELBOW AND SO IT MAY BE NICE TO DO A COMPARISON BETWEEN SOME OF THOSE COMMERCIAL SPOTS THAT GET THIS DESIGNATION VERSUS THE ONES THAT ARE NOT DESIGNATED TO MAKE OUR CASE. BUT I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED WITH THE OUTCOME OF THIS BUT WE'LL GO ONE STEP AT A TIME. >> THANK YOU, AND I AGREE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ORDINANCE 2023-08. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 2022-08. DO I NEED TO SAY READ BY TITLE ONLY? >> YES, OR FIRST READING INSTEAD OF REPORT FIRST READING. [OVERLAPPING] >> YEAH. THANK YOU. >> YEAH. IT'S ALL RIGHT. IT'S GOOD. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> I'VE GOT TO READ IT. >> SORRY. WE ARE RUSHING THINGS, AREN'T WE? >> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-08, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, AMENDING SECTION 7-4 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, REGULATING AND POSTING IDLE SPEED, NO WAKE ZONES, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. [00:55:03] >> NOW, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> BARBARA BLONDER? >> YES. >> JIM SPRINGFIELD? >> YES. >> CYNTHIA GARRIS? >> YES. >> ROXANNE HORVATH? >> YES. >> NANCY SIKES-KLINE? >> YES. WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 9B, [9.B.1. Resolution 2023-03: Amends the convenience fee surcharge for electronic and credit card payments.] RESOLUTION 2023-03, AND THAT IS MR. JOHNSON. WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. RESOLUTION 2020-03 IS GOING TO AMEND RESOLUTION 2021-38, WHICH ALLOWS THE CITY TO CHARGE SURCHARGE ON CARD PAYMENTS, BOTH DEBIT AND CREDIT. WE'RE PROPOSING 2%. FLORIDA STATUTE ALLOWS YOU TO RECOVER COSTS RELATED TO CARD PAYMENTS, SO THIS WOULD DO THAT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M HERE TO ANSWER THOSE AND IF NOT WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? >> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. WHEN MY BANK SENDS OUT A CHECK DIRECTLY EVERY SINGLE MONTH, THIS WOULD NOT INCUR THAT ADDITIONAL FEE, RIGHT? >> CORRECT. THIS IS FOR DEBIT CARD AND CREDIT CARD. CARD IS WHITE PAYMENTS. >> I NOTE THAT TOO WHEN I GO TO RENEW MY LICENSE PLATE AT THE COUNTY THEY CHARGE US VERY SIMILAR FEE, SO I SEND THEM A CHECK AS WELL. >> YEAH, WE'RE LATE TO THE GAME. COUNTY HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR AWHILE. >> DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WITHDRAW AUTOMATICALLY THROUGH CHECKING ACCOUNTS? >> THROUGH ACH COMING OUT OF YOUR ACCOUNT? >> YES, ACH. >> YES, WE CAN DO THAT. THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT HAS A FORM THAT YOU FILL OUT AND YOU GET ON A LIST AND WE PULL THOSE EVERY TIME WE DO GO AROUND. >> THERE IS A WAY TO AVOID THE SURCHARGE IF YOU SET THAT UP? >> YES. THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. >> THAT EARN MY SUPPORT. THANK YOU. DO I HEAR A MOTION? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE DON'T READ THIS ONE BECAUSE IT'S A RESOLUTION. >> I'LL MOVE THAT WE PASS RESOLUTION 2023-03. >> I SECOND THAT. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. LET'S MOVE ON TO STAFF REPORTS. [10.A. 450 North Holmes Boulevard affordable housing project update and discussion.] WE HAVE TODAY A REPORT ON 450 NORTH HOMES, BOULEVARD. NOW, THAT'S A NEW ONE FOR ME BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS HEARD THIS PARCEL DESCRIBED AS THE 80 ACRES, WHICH IT REALLY ISN'T IT'S 82 AND SOMETHING. BUT THANK YOU. MR. BURTON, YOU'RE WELCOME TO BEGIN. >> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND CHAIRMAN. DAVID BURTON, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. TONIGHT'S SHORT PRESENTATION REFRESHING EVERYONE ABOUT OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT AT 450 NORTH HOMES, BOULEVARD. ON THE OVERHEAD I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME SLIDES. THE FIRST IS A SLIDE OF THE SURVEY WE RECENTLY HAD DONE. IT TOOK SOME TIME TO DO THE SURVEY. THE TV SCREEN THAT THESE COMMISSIONERS ARE SEEING IS NOT SHOWING THE PRESENTATION. >> LET'S SAY THERE IS A PROBLEM. >> I'M SORRY. I THINK YOU DO HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU. >> IT'S A LOVELY COLOR OF WORD. >> WE GOT IT. >> HERE IT IS. >> THERE WE GO. >> THAT'S IT. >> THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE IT. THERE WE GO. SORRY ABOUT THAT TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY. THE NEXT SLIDE IS SIMPLY AN OVERHEAD. THIS GIVES YOU A BETTER IDEA OF THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE PROPERTY. IT IS 82.5 ACRES. ABOUT 48 OF THOSE ACRES ARE UPLANDS, THE REMAINING BALANCE IS WETLANDS AND PONDS. IT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A STORAGE AREA FOR OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE MOUNDS OF ROAD-BUILDING, GRAVEL, AND SAND, WE HAVE LARGE CONCRETE PIPES AND THAT UTILITY MATERIALS FOR ROAD-BUILDING AND REPAIR. THE PROPERTY IS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, IT'S NOT IN THE CITY. IT'S IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. IT HAS AN OPEN RURAL ZONING DESIGNATION AND AN UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL SEA. WE MET WITH TERESA BISHOP FROM THE COUNTY EARLIER TODAY, MYSELF AND OUR CONSULTANTS. BEFORE I GET ANY FURTHER, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR TWO CONSULTANTS. GREG BURKE AND JEFF HUBER ARE HERE TONIGHT WITH BROOKS AND SCARPA. THEY ARE CONSULTANTS WHO WILL BE HOSTING OUR CHARRETTE AND I'LL GET TO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER. BUT WE DID MEET WITH THE COUNTY GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR TODAY, TERESA BISHOP, [01:00:03] AND WENT OVER THE DETAILS OF HOW THE PROPERTY ZONING AND ENTITLEMENTS ARE NOW AND WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO DEVELOP THE SITE AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE PROPERTY IS IN A FEDERALLY DESIGNATED OPPORTUNITY ZONE, WHICH ALLOWS PRIVATE INVESTORS TO HAVE A, I'LL CALL IT TAX SHELTER OR OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST IN THIS PROPERTY AND DEFER CAPITAL GAINS TAXES, WHICH IS BENEFICIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SAME. WATER SERVICE IS AVAILABLE BUT SEWER SERVICE IS NOT AVAILABLE. ON THE OVERHEAD NOW YOU'LL SEE A UTILITY MAP. NOW, HERE IS OUR PROPERTY. THE RED ON THIS MAP, IT'S HARD TO SEE. THIS IS OUR UTILITY LINE OR SEWER LINE THAT'S IN PLACE TODAY. IN THAT END THAT I JUST VERY POORLY PUT ON THE MAP IS MARIE MIDDLE-SCHOOL. OUR SEWER FORCE MAIN SERVES MARIE MIDDLE-SCHOOL, BUT IT STOPS AT BEHIND MARIE MIDDLE-SCHOOL AND THEY'VE GOT THEIR OWN LIFT STATION. WE NEED TO MAKE A CONNECTION FROM THAT POINT DOWN COLOR TO OUR PROPERTY TO SERVE IT WITH SEWER. WE ARE ASKING THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR FOR AN APPROPRIATION OF $2.3 MILLION TO PAY FOR THAT SEWER FORCE MAIN EXTENSION AND LIFT STATION AND SUB GRAVITY SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE TO SERVE THIS DEVELOPMENT. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE CHRONOLOGY, I HAVE IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT JUST TO SUMMARIZE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR, 13 MONTHS. YOU DID IDENTIFY THIS AS THE PREFERRED SITE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IN FACT, YOU PASSED A RESOLUTION TO THAT EFFECT LAST APRIL. A SURVEY WAS COMPLETED LAST AUGUST. IT TOOK SOME TIME TO GET THE SURVEY DONE BECAUSE IT'S A VERY COMPLEX SURVEY. WE HAD TO DO A TREE SURVEY, A TOPO SURVEY, WETLANDS DELINEATION, AND IT IS A TWO AND A HALF ACRES, SO IT'S A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE HAD TO TAKE SOME TIME TO PROPERLY RETAIN BROOKS + SCARPA UNDER CONTRACT FOR THE CHARRETTE. TONIGHT'S REAL DISCUSSION IS THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE DEVELOPED AT THIS SITE ALONG WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I'M ASKING YOU AND ALSO EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE HERE. WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT'S ABOUT 400 RENTAL UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH A RANGE OF DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS. BUT APART FROM THAT, WE'RE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE HERE, AND I PUT DOWN SOME SUGGESTIONS ON SITE RECREATION. IT'S GOT A GREAT LAKE FOR FISHING AND CANOEING, BUT ALSO AN EXERCISE ROOM AND A COMMUNITY CENTER, THOSE AMENITIES THAT YOU SEE WITH APARTMENT COMMUNITIES. DAYCARE SERVICES, HEALTH CARE SERVICES, TRANSPORTATION FEATURES LIKE BUS STOPS, EXERCISE TRAILS. THEN WE'D ALSO LIKE YOU TO PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO HOW YOU WANT TO STRUCTURE THIS AND WE CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS LATER DOWN THE ROAD, WE GO TO THE CHARRETTE. BUT THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY WOULD BE IN PERPETUITY. IT WOULD NOT HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE. SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY NOW HAS A WINDOW WITH WHICH THE AFFORDABLE COMPONENT HAS TO EXIST. BUT AFTER 20 YEARS, THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX CAN BE CONVERTED TO MARKET RATE HOUSING. YOU ONLY GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. I THINK FROM HEARING THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION IN THE PAST, YOU WOULD PREFER TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PERMANENTLY ON THIS PROPERTY. WE ARE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE RENTAL HOUSING, OR OWNER OCCUPIED, OR A MIXTURE OF THOSE TWO. AGAIN, MY LAST WAS JUST THE RATIO OF DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS THAT MAKE THIS A VIABLE COMMUNITY. [01:05:04] THE THOUGHT PROCESS HERE IS THAT IF WE HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF MARKET RATE APARTMENTS, THE RENT FROM THOSE MARKET RATE APARTMENTS COULD SUBSIDIZE THE RENT THAT WE DO NOT CAPTURE FOR THE LOW AND VERY LOW-INCOME FOLKS THAT WOULD BE RENTING AT A MUCH LOWER RATE, AND TRYING TO KEEP FIND THAT BALANCE TO MAKE THIS A SELF-SUSTAINING COMMUNITY. AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THE CHARRETTE PROCESS, BUT I WILL WRAP IT UP WITH THE UPCOMING DATES. FOR THE COMMUNITY ON MARCH 18TH, THAT'S SATURDAY MORNING AT NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING FROM NINE TO NOON, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP THE SITE TO THE PUBLIC. ANYONE CAN COME ON OUT AND WALK THE SITE, WE'LL BE OUT THERE WITH SOME SURVEYS AND BOTTLES OF WATER AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME OUT AND TAKE A WALK AROUND YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS. THEN THE FOLLOWING MONDAY, WHICH IS MARCH 20TH, FROM ONE O'CLOCK UNTIL FIVE O'CLOCK, IN THIS ROOM WE'LL HAVE A CHARRETTE. FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT A CHARRETTE IS, A CHARRETTE IS AN INTERACTIVE DESIGN WORKSHOP IN WHICH WE WILL HAVE STATIONS OR TABLES SET AROUND AND PEOPLE WILL BE BROKEN INTO GROUPS AND THEY'LL GO TO STATION NUMBER 1, AND STATION NUMBER 2, NUMBER 3 AND THIS PROCESS WILL LEAD TO EVERYONE HAVING A VOICE IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AT THE END, THE ARCHITECTS WHO WILL LEAD THIS CHARRETTE WILL PRODUCE A FINAL REPORT, AND THAT REPORT WON'T BE DONE ON MONDAY BUT THEY'LL USE THE INFORMATION THAT'S GATHERED BY THE PUBLIC AND THEIR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT OBVIOUSLY, TO PUT TOGETHER SOME CONCEPTUAL SITE PLANS AND A REPORT DETAILING WHAT THEY BELIEVE WOULD BE A DESIGN THAT ENCOMPASSES ALL OF YOUR WISHES. WE WOULD THEN ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL FOR THAT AND THEN WE WOULD SEND THAT OUT AND SOLICIT FOR DEVELOPMENT THROUGH A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS PROCESS. THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION VERY QUICKLY. I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> GREAT. DOES ANYONE WANT TO START? COMMENTS, THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS? ANYONE CARE TO TAKE A STAB AT THE QUESTIONS? >> SURE. I'LL START. I DID HAVE AN INTERESTING QUESTION ASKED OF ME TODAY AND THAT WAS FROM THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COUNCIL ON AGING INDEPENDENT LIVING SERVICE MANAGER. THE REQUEST CAME AS ASKING THAT WE COULD DESIGNATE SOME OF THE APARTMENTS FOR ELDERLY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE REALLY CAN'T. THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT OR NOT, WHETHER IT'S A PREJUDICED OR NOT. >> I KNOW THAT WE CAN'T RESERVE UNITS FOR PARTICULAR CLASSES OF INDIVIDUALS, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT. THAT IS GOOD LEGAL QUESTION. >> YOU CAN HAVE DEED RESTRICTED OVER 55 COMMUNITIES IN FLORIDA. THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK IN TERMS OF A POTENTIAL DEVELOPER FOR THE SITE. I MEAN, YOU MAY KNOW OF SOME THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT ARE AGE RESTRICTED. I'M NOT SO SURE THAT THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE INTENT WAS FOR THIS, BUT OUR LOVELY CHARRETTE FOLKS WILL GUIDE THAT DISCUSSION I'M SURE. >> YEAH, I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP AT THE CHARRETTE AS WELL, BUT ALSO PART OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TYPE OF BUILDING IT IS, ACCESS, THOSE THING, MAKING SURE WE HAVE HANDICAPPED BATHROOMS, RAMPS FOR THOSE PARTICULAR UNITS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S EASY TO DO WITHOUT HAVING TO DESIGNATE FOR THE AGE GROUP. >> SURE. THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE CASE NO MATTER WHAT, BUT IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE A 55 PLUS AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITY. I AM GUESSING, BUT WE'LL WAIT. ON THAT TOPIC, MR. BURTON, WHILE YOU'RE THERE. I KNOW ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA IT IDENTIFIES THAT MARCH 20TH MEETING AS A SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE INTENT IS, CORRECT? >> NO, IT SHOULD BE. THAT IS THE CHARRETTE. YES, MA'AM. BUT A CERTAIN TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE IS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF APARTMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE ADA ACCESSIBLE, WHETHER THIS WAS A MARKET RATE COMMUNITY OR. >> THAT'S GOOD. ANOTHER QUESTION JUST CAME UP WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE FISHING LAKES, WOULD THEY BE CONSIDERED RETENTION PONDS AND THEREFORE I HAVE TO BE FENCED? >> WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT TODAY. I HOPE NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY BEAUTIFUL AMENITIES. [01:10:02] THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE CLARIFICATION FROM OUR ARCHITECTS. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> I HAVE A COMMENT. WAS A SURVEY DONE ON THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE I REMEMBER THAT SPOT WE GOT OUR COQUINA DONE THE WE DO A STUDY ON THAT PROPERTY? >> WELL, WE'VE GOTTEN A SURVEY COMPLETED. WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER LOOK AT THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE WETLANDS. WE HAVE IN THE PAST MINED COQUINA FROM THAT SITE USES AN AGGREGATE FOR SIDEWALKS DOWNTOWN. >> I RECALL THAT. >> WE HAVE EXPLORED THE POSSIBILITY OF RESERVING ACCESS TO THE SITE FOR FUTURE MINING OF THE COQUINA. THAT AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION WE'LL HAVE ON MARCH 20TH. OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF RESERVING SOME OF THE PROPERTY WHERE COLLIER COMES INTO IT AS A LAY DOWN AREA. IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, THEN WE COULD CONTINUE TO STORE COQUINA AND SAND AND GRAVEL AT THAT LOCATION. BUT THERE IS A COMPLICATION WITH THAT. I'LL JUST BE THAT WAS SOMETHING WE TALKED TO THE COUNTY ABOUT TODAY. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL USE, WHICH WOULD BE THE LAY DOWN AREA DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME VERY CLEAR BUFFERS BETWEEN THOSE TWO USES. NORMALLY, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL LAY DOWN AREA DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO AN APARTMENT COMMUNITY. BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT. IF THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, THEN WE WILL HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION TO MOVE ALL THOSE BUILDING MATERIALS THAT WE STORE THERE NOW. >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS EXAMINED IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE DISLIKE IT WAS ONLY PLACING IN THE NORTH PART OF FLORIDA THAT WE COULD GET COQUINA FROM WHEN I WAS WORKING IN MY DEPARTMENT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL HAVE THAT RESOURCE. >> YES, MA'AM. >> HAVE FIXED ONE PROBLEM AND CREATE ANOTHER. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY THEN. >> I'M JUST EXCITED TO GET GOING ON THIS. >> OKAY THEN. >> I HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS. I'M SORRY. MR. BERCHAM, YOU LEFT OFF OF YOUR TIMELINE SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WORKED REALLY HARD ON AND THAT WAS GETTING THE MINERAL RIGHTS. [LAUGHTER] >> YOU CAN THANK YOUR ATTORNEY FOR THAT. >> I DON'T WANT TO LET THAT GO UNNOTICED. SECONDLY, VERY IMPORTANTLY, AND I KNOW THAT YOU AND MR. REAGAN HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD ON THIS, THAT SEWER CONNECTION IS A BIG DEAL. IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, AND MAYBE YOU COULD SPEAK TO THIS FOR US, MOVE SOME NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT ARE ON SEPTIC RIGHT NOW TO SEWER AND REALLY IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE AND IN ST. AUGUSTINE'S. THAT IS A BIG POSITIVE IN THE COSTS AND BENEFITS COLUMNS FOR ME. THEN LASTLY, THIS IS A QUESTION AS WELL IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE NOW, MOVING FORWARD FROM THE CHARRETTE AND SO FORTH TO THE BUILDING DESIGN AND SO FORTH, WE ALSO NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE REZONING THAT WE'LL NEED TO GET THE COUNTY SUPPORT ON. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE WORKING HARD TO ADVOCATE FOR THIS PROJECT WITH THE FOLKS WHO WILL DECIDE ON A REZONING QUESTION, AND YOU'RE ALREADY STARTING THAT. I KNOW YOU ARE. >> YES MA'AM WE DID. >> TIMELINE. >> WELL, ACCORDING TO THE COUNTY, THEIR PROCESS IS SIMILAR TO OURS. IT'S DICTATED BY FLORIDA STATUTES. THE REZONING HAS TO GO TO THEIR PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY, WHAT WE CALL OUR PZB IN THE COUNTY, THEY CALL A PZA, SAME DEAL. IT'S THEIR LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY. AFTER THAT, IT GOES THROUGH THEIR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WITH AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE ZONING TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. WHEREAS WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE OUR PZB FOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT REZONING. THEY ONLY HAVE ONE. WHEREAS WE HAVE TWO READINGS FOR THE ORDINANCE TO REZONE PROPERTY, THEY ONLY HAVE ONE ALSO. BUT ACCORDING TO THE COUNTY, WHEN WE SPOKE TO THEM TODAY, ONCE WE APPLY TO GO BEFORE THEIR PZA, IT WILL TAKE 5-6 MONTHS TO ACTUALLY APPEAR BEFORE THEM. THAT'S HOW BACKLOGGED THEY ARE. AFTER THEY GET THEIR RECOMMENDATION, [01:15:03] IT WILL TAKE SOMETHING LIKE TO 6-9 WEEKS BEFORE WE CAN GET TO THEIR BCC TO HEAR THE ORDINANCE. THOSE DELAYS ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL. IN THE MEANTIME, WE NEED TO HIRE, I SHOULD SAY WE REQUIRE SOME DISCIPLINES. WE REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY TO BE DONE, AND WE REQUIRE THE CATEGORY OF WETLANDS TO BE IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE. SO THERE'S STILL SOME WORK TO BE DONE AND WE'LL HAVE TO DRAFT THE PUD NARRATIVE AND INCLUDE THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE PUD. WE CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL WE GET THROUGH THE CHARRETTE AND YOU-ALL DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE ON A PROPERTY. IT'S MOVING FORWARD, BUT IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME. >> FOLLOW UP QUESTION. >> YES, OF COURSE. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN DURING THE CHARRETTE, RIGHT? >> YES. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED AND WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME REACHING OUT THROUGH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND WITH THE WEST AUGUSTINE CRA. HOPEFULLY, WE'D LIKE EVERYONE WHO IS INTERESTED TO COME OUT AND PARTICIPATE. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY THEN, SOUNDS GOOD. I'M VERY ENCOURAGED TO HEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE COMMUNITY INPUT. IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE LIKE TO DO HERE. I THINK THESE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE ASKED US, WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO FULLY ANSWER TODAY, BUT CERTAINLY THE COMMUNITY CAN WORK ON THEM AND WE'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT. I MYSELF I'M A LITTLE BIT MIXED ON THE HOUSING AND PERPETUITY VERSUS FIXED DURATION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT COULD BE AN INCENTIVE. A FIXED DURATION COULD BE A VERY GOOD INCENTIVE TO ATTRACT SOMEONE WHO WILL PUT MORE INTO A DEVELOPER THAT WOULD PUT MORE INTO THE PROJECT. WHETHER WE WANT TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T LIKE TO TIE OUR HANDS AND SAY THIS IS THE WAY WE'RE SET ON THIS ROAD NOW. >> RIGHT. >> I ALSO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BLONDER. I THINK THAT IT COULD REALLY HELP US TO MAKE OUR CASE WHEN WE GO TO TALLAHASSEE AND ASK FOR OUR APPROPRIATION. HOW MANY HOMES ARE THERE POTENTIALLY WITH THIS PROJECT ON THE CONVERSION FROM SEPTIC TO SEWER? JUST AN IDEA WOULD HELP US MAKE OUR CASE STRONGER BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A BIG PART OF THAT REQUEST. THAT'S A LARGER QUESTION. >> I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER, BUT IT'S NOT A LOT. BUT WE WOULD ALSO BE STRETCHING SEWER BEHIND ANOTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF US. I'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME BETTER DATA FOR YOU WHEN WE GET TO THE CHARRETTE ON THAT. >> SOME BULLET POINTS. >> OR IT CAN BE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. YES. >> LOVELY. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. >> A LITTLE REMINDER BECAUSE I THINK COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD MENTIONED THAT HE MIGHT HAVE SOME INTEREST IN ATTENDING THE CHARRETTE. IT WILL NOT BE A NOTICED CITY COMMISSION MEETING, SO YOU CANNOT SPEAK TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS. YOU'RE WELCOME TO ATTEND AND OBSERVE HOW THE PUBLIC NOODLES ON THESE WEIGHTY ISSUES. BUT JUST REMEMBER THAT YOU'RE NOT THERE AS THE CITY COMMISSION AND YOU CANNOT SPEAK TO EACH OTHER EVEN THROUGH A MODERATOR. BE COGNIZANT OF THAT IF YOU PLAN ON ATTENDING. >> WONDERFUL. I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON YOUR SELECTION OF THE FIRM. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR US AS WE MOVE FORWARD, SO THANK YOU. I THINK WE'LL MOVE ON FROM THAT ITEM. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO ITEM 10B, [10.B. Communications department presentation.] WHICH IS THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT PRESENTATION. MS. WHISTLE. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. MELISSA WHISTLE, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY. WITH ME THIS EVENING, I HAVE CINDY WALKER, COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST, AS WELL AS COREY NILES OUR EVENTS AND VENUE COORDINATOR. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL THAT WE DO. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE A PRESENTATION LIKE THIS, SO HERE WE GO. MISSION OF THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IS TO PROVIDE RELIABLE, RELEVANT, TIMELY INFORMATION ABOUT THE CITY. WHEN WE GO TO OUR FEMA TRAINING, THEY REALLY SAY IT BEST AND MOST SUCCINCTLY OUR JOB IS TO GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE AT THE RIGHT TIME SO THEY CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS. ULTIMATELY, OUR VISION IS THAT THE ST. AUGUSTINE COMMUNITY ULTIMATELY CONSIDERS US TO [01:20:04] REALLY BE THE SINGLE MOST RELIABLE SOURCE OF INFORMATION WHEN IT COMES TO EVENTS, PROGRAMS, INITIATIVES, EMERGENCIES, COMMUNICATIONS RELATING TO THE CITY. OUR COMMUNICATION STARTS WITH A GOOD OLD-FASHIONED PRESS RELEASE. PRESS RELEASE GOES OUT, AND WE POST THE INFORMATION TO OUR WEBSITE. WE ALSO POST OUR INFORMATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA, OFTENTIMES LINKING BACK TO THE INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE. WE ALSO HAVE THE FLAGLER COLLEGE RADIO BROADCAST; THE BREAK ROOM, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE COME ON AND I'VE ENJOYED DOING THAT WITH YOU ALL AND WE ALSO HAVE NEWS AND NOTES ON WEEKLY E-NEWSLETTER. WE KNOW THAT OUR MESSAGING IS WORKING BECAUSE WE GET INQUIRIES FROM TELEVISION MEDIA, RADIO STATIONS, NEWSPAPERS, COMMUNITY OUTREACH OPPORTUNITIES WHEN NEIGHBORHOODS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, ROTARY REACH OUT TO US AND WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL AND OUR STAFF ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE CITY. JUST SOME OTHER EXAMPLES VISUALLY OF SOME OF OUR OUTREACH INITIATIVES AND THAT'S JAMIE PERKINS WITH RCRA OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND LINCOLNVILLE. OUR MOST CRITICAL AND MOST IMPORTANT COMMUNICATION COMES DURING A CRISIS OR AN EMERGENCY. WE BELIEVE THAT BY PROVIDING THE BEST INFORMATION WHEN WE'RE NOT IN A CRISIS WILL LEAD PEOPLE TO COME TO US WHEN WE ARE IN A CRISIS. WE HAVE OUR OWN MESSAGING FOR THE CITY RESIDENTS AS WE PREPARE FOR STORMS AND EMERGENCIES, INFORMATION ABOUT TRASH TO BE PICK-UP, CLOSURES, SUSPENSION, OR DELAYS OF SERVICE, BUT WHEN IT COMES TIME WE DO EMBED OURSELVES WITH THE EEOC AND WORK WITH THE COUNTY HAND-IN-HAND WITH THEIR COMMUNICATIONS AND MESSAGING. YOU'LL SEE OUR BRANDED MESSAGES, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME AFTER HURRICANE MATTHEW. IT GIVES A CLEAR INDICATION TO FOLKS LOOKING AT OUR SOCIAL MEDIA THAT THIS IS NOT JUST AN AVERAGE POSTING ABOUT SOMETHING. I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO CINDY ON THIS ONE, THE #DON'TBETHATGUY. WE LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE WERE VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THE SPEEDING THROUGH THE FLOODWATERS AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TRY TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SENSE OF HUMOR AND SOMETIMES THAT'S WHAT IT GETS PEOPLE'S ATTENTION, BUT WE REALLY DO TRY TO LISTEN AND RESPOND. WE ALSO DO VIDEO PSAS DURING OUR EMERGENCIES. OUR FIRST EVER EFFORT AND EMERGENCY MESSAGE WAS DURING HURRICANE MATTHEW OR AS HURRICANE MATTHEW WAS BEARING DOWN ON US. THIS IS A SCREENSHOT; IT'S NOT THE ACTUAL PSA, BUT CHIEF SHEVELIES HAD BEEN IN OFFICE AS OUR CHIEF FOR MAYBE SIX WEEKS AND HE CAME TO ME. HE SAYS, OKAY, COME ON, WE GOT TO DO A MESSAGE. LET'S GO. I TOOK MY IPHONE 7 AND WE STOOD IN FRONT OF THE FIRE STATION UP IN FRONT OF THE TRUCK AND WE DID OUR MESSAGE. IT WAS A HIT WE HAD OVER 18,000 LIKES, SHARES,. IT WAS QUITE A SUCCESS BUT WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY. WE BECOME A LOT MORE SOPHISTICATED WITH OUR PSA PRODUCTION, WE HAVE A LAVALIER MIC. YOU'LL NOTICE ON THIS SCREENSHOT, MAYOR UPCHURCH HAS A LAB CONNECTED TO HIS SHIRT. WE ACTUALLY ALSO HAVE A TELEPROMPTER IF NEEDED WHICH CAME IN VERY HANDY DURING COVID AND I HAVE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MARIN, OUR AV SPECIALIST. SHE'S IN THE BACKROOM KEEPING CONTROL, SHE MAKES US LOOK GOOD. I MENTIONED OUR ABILITY TO LISTEN AND RESPOND. IF YOU RECALL IN 2020, WE HAD THE BACK-TO-BACK NOR'EASTER AND KING TIDES. PEOPLE WERE VERY UPSET AND CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE STORMS AND THE STORM SURGES AND THEY WERE NOT PREPARED. WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE A NIXLE, THE ST.AUGALERTS. THE FIRE CHIEF HELPED US PUT THAT TOGETHER. HE ACTUALLY HELPED US DO THAT AND WE'RE ABLE TO RESPOND AGAIN TO LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY. ALSO FACEBOOK HAS AN ALERT TOOL THAT WE USE AS WELL, THE CITY WAS PART OF THEIR TESTING DEVELOPMENT OF THAT FEATURE. IN EMERGENCIES AND NOT ALWAYS EMERGENCIES, WE ALSO HAVE AN ALERT TOOL ON OUR WEBSITE. UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES WE EVEN HAVE LITTLE SNAFUS WITH OUR STREAMING SERVICE. THIS ALERT IS SOMETHING THAT'S HANDY BECAUSE IT GOES TO EVERY PAGE OF THE WEBSITE, SO WHEN SOMEONE IS GOING TO THE WEBSITE TO TRY TO FIND OUT SOMETHING THAT ALERT POPS UP AT THE TOP. WE USE THAT EMERGENCY ALERT ON OUR WEBSITE BANNER AS WELL. TALKING ABOUT OUR WEBSITE, DO A QUICK RUNDOWN OF WHAT ARE GREAT FEATURES OF OUR WEBSITE ARE. WE HAVE OUR SEARCH BAR, WHICH WOULD SEEM OBVIOUS, I DON'T KNOW THAT EVERYBODY USES THAT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. TYPE IN SOMETHING LIKE RESILIENCE RECYCLING, BACK BAY, CODE ENFORCEMENT. ANY OF THOSE QUICK SEARCH STRINGS ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU SEARCH RESULTS AND GIVE YOU LINKS TO ALL OF THE PLACES ON OUR WEBSITE WHERE THAT INFORMATION EXISTS. EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE ON THE HOMEPAGE OF THE WEBSITE, BUT NOT EVERYBODY CAN BE. WE ALSO HAVE SHORTCUT LINKS, JOBS. [01:25:01] WE HAVE LINKS TO SUBMITTING WORK REQUEST FORMS, SHORTCUT LINK THERE FOR NOTIFY ME. YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR NEWS AND NOTES AND THE SHORTCUT ICONS THAT YOU SEE THERE, THE EMERGENCY ORDER SHORT-TERM RENTALS WE CAN CREATE THOSE BUTTONS OURSELVES FOR THOSE TOPICS THAT BECOME IMPORTANT. ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER DAVID BERTRAM WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CHARRETTE. WE HAVE THE BACK BASED CHARRETTE, SO THOSE WILL BE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE CAN PUT ON THAT HOMEPAGE OF THE WEBSITE THAT MAKES IT VERY EASY FOR PEOPLE TO FIND THAT INFORMATION. I MENTIONED OUR PRESS RELEASES GO ON THE WEBSITE, THEY GO ON THAT LANDING PAGE AND OUR LATEST NEWS AND UPDATES. WE HAVE A CALENDAR OF UPCOMING EVENTS AND OF COURSE THE FOOTER OF OUR PAGE, ALL OF THE WEB PAGES HAVE THOSE SAME FOOTERS. REAL QUICKLY YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT OUR SOCIAL MEDIA. WE'RE ON FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, TWITTER NEXT DOOR. ALL OF OUR VIDEO PSAS IN ANY OF OUR MESSAGING THAT GOES OUT ON VIDEO, WE KEEP LOGGED AND CATALOGED AND ARCHIVED IN YOUTUBE. WE HAVE A DASHBOARD THAT IS CINDY'S BEST FRIEND. SHE CAN PUBLISH ANY SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS TO ANY OF OUR PLATFORMS FROM ONE PLACE, DON'T EVEN TRY TO DECIPHER THAT. THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE BREAK ROOM. WE'VE GONE TO PODCASTING OUR BREAK ROOM EPISODES AND THE PODCASTING ALLOWS US THROUGH SPEAKER TO REACH AUDIENCES ON APPLE PODCASTS, IHEARTRADIO, SPOTIFY AND MORE. WITHOUT GETTING INTO TOO MUCH BORING STUFF, WE DO HAVE OUR STATISTICAL REPORTS THAT COME THROUGH OUR CONSULTANT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO ALL ANALYTICS TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE REACTING TO, WHAT THEY'RE ENGAGING IN, WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT'S NOT WORKING AND THEN OBVIOUSLY TO RUN THOSE FUN GRAPHS AND CHARTS. THAT'S WHAT I REFER TO AS THE MACHINE OF OUR DEPARTMENT NOW FOR SOME OF THE FUN STUFF. YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT CITIZEN AWARDS. THOSE CITIZEN AWARD START WITH YOU ALL WHEN YOU MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION, THAT NOMINATION. I DON'T KNOW THAT EVERYBODY REALIZES WE DO THE PRESS RELEASE, WE WRITE THE SCRIPT, WE PREPARE THE REMARKS WITH THE RUN OF SHOW, QUERY, OR EVENTS. VENUE COORDINATOR HELPS US COORDINATE THE HONOREE AND THEIR GUESTS AND THEN ALSO PUTTING TOGETHER THE AWARD ITSELF. THE DE AVILES IS THE FRAMED CERTIFICATE. ADELAIDE SANCHEZ IS THE LION STATUE OR CITIZENSHIP BOARDS AND THE ORDER OF LA FLORIDA. SAME THING GOES FOR OUR EVENTS AND PROGRAMS. WE HAVE ARBOR DAY, MENENDEZ DAY, CONCERTS IN THE PLAZA. AGAIN, THAT'S THE LIFT FOR COREY. SHE COORDINATES AND SCHEDULES ALL OF OUR PERFORMERS FOR THE SUMMER, MAINTAINS THE CONTENT ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL AS THE CALENDAR. SHE'S ALSO IN CHARGE OF FIREWORKS OVER THE MATANZAS WITH ALL OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED, POLICE, FIRE, SOLID WASTE, STREETS AND GROUNDS, MARINA, SCHEDULING THE MUSIC IN THE PLAZA, PORT-A-POTTY IS BARRICADES, ETC. THINK OF ALL OF THAT AND THEN SQUEEZE ALL OF THAT INTO THE PLAZA. IT'S THE SAME THING FOR LIGHT-UP NIGHT AND THEN YOU JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE, WHICH IS THE SPECIAL GUEST, SWITCH FLIPPERS, THE CHRISTMAS TREE, AND THE LIGHTS. LOTS OF EXCITING EVENTS THAT WE TAKE CARE OF AND THE OTHER EVENTS INCLUDE THINGS LIKE THE 200TH ANNIVERSARY, CITY GOVERNMENT WEEK, HISTORY VESSEL RIBBON-CUTTING CEREMONIES, ALL KINDS OF FUN STUFF. MORE FUN THIS IS I THINK ONE OF CINDY'S FAVORITE PARTS OF THE JOB IS THE CAMPAIGNS WE DO FACE OF THE CITY WE HAVE CITY HALL SELFIE DAY AND I HAVE TO DO A SHOUT ON CITY HALL SELFIE DAY AS WELL BECAUSE WE DID GET RECOGNITION FOR BEST PET, MOST HISTORIC AND FUNNIEST THROUGH THAT AND CITY HALL SELFIE DAY IS DONE THROUGH FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES IN ANOTHER ORGANIZATION. WE ALSO WERE RECOGNIZED FOR OUR MASQUERADING AS HEROES CAMPAIGN THAT WE DID. WE WERE NAMED AMONG THE TOP FIVE OUTSTANDING SHOWCASES FOR SOCIAL MEDIA FROM OUR FLORIDA MUNICIPAL COMMUNICATORS ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE LEICA CITIES PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE BELONG TO. WE ALSO DO AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS, ARCHAEOLOGY, MINE, FIRE PREVENTION WEEK, SOLID WASTE WORKERS DAY, EARTH DAY ON, AND ON YOU GET THAT. THEN OUR PSAS, AGAIN, WITH MARILYN'S HELP, WE DO THE SCRIPTS, WE GET THE TALENT, WE DO MUSIC, WHO'S GOING TO BE ON SCREEN? WHO'S GOING TO DO THE VOICE-OVER? MARINA DOES ALL OF THAT PRODUCTION IN PUTTING THOSE TOGETHER FOR US. YOU MENTIONED WHEN YOU GO TO THE CAPITAL AND YOU TAKE THOSE INFORMATION FLYERS WITH YOU, WE PUT THOSE TOGETHER FOR YOU AS WELL HOPEFULLY THAT'S WHAT CATCHES THEIR EYE AND GETS US LOTS OF MONEY. WE ALSO DO THE POSTERS FOR THE RIBBON CUTTING AND PUBLIC EVENTS. ARBOR DAY WAS ANOTHER ONE MORE RECENTLY THAT WE DID. THE SIGNAGE THAT YOU SAW DURING COVID WE DESIGNED ALL OF THAT, [01:30:04] CAME UP WITH THAT CREATIVELY ALSO, WE DO THE SIGNS FOR CONSTRUCTION YOU'LL SEE THE BUS STOP SIGNS WHEN WE GET THE LAUNCH OF THE STAR CIRCULATOR GOING. THE PUBLIC RESTROOM LOCATIONS SO ALL FUN THINGS THAT WE DO, ICONOGRAPHY THESE WERE THE ICONS I WAS MENTIONING FROM THE HOMEPAGE OF THE WEBSITE. ALSO, WE USE THOSE IN SOCIAL MEDIA TO HELP KEEP THAT BRANDING CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD. WE WILL CREATE INVITATIONS TO ALL OF OUR FUNDS, SPECIAL EVENTS THAT WE DO VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION, THE 200S SO WE HAVE A LOT OF FUN WITH DOING THOSE, AS WELL AS OUR PRINT MEDIA ADVERTISING NIGHTS OF LIGHTS AND CONCERTS IN THE PLAZA. CONTENT QUALITY CONTROL IS EXTREMELY TIME-CONSUMING. IT'S THINGS LIKE MAINTAINING THE ADA COMPLIANCE ON SOCIAL THAT INCLUDES TAGGING ALL OF OUR PHOTOS, DESCRIPTIONS, CAPTIONING THE VIDEOS, PDF DOCUMENTS, AND EVERY VIDEO THAT WE PUT OUT OR ALL OF THE VIDEOS THAT HAVE ANY TYPE OF A VOICEOVER OR SPEAKING ON IT, HAVE THE CAPTIONING INCLUDED. WE DO WEBSITE MANAGEMENT WE HAD A NEW WEBSITE REDESIGNED IN 2016 THAT WAS THE VERY FIRST THING I EVER DID I WASN'T ALLOWED TO LEAVE MY OFFICE TILL I HAD IT ROLLED OVER AND REDESIGN THAT WAS REALLY FUN. THEN IN 2019, WE GOT A NEW VENDOR, CIVIC PLUS, THEY'VE BEEN A FANTASTIC VENDOR FOR US. WE'VE ALSO ADDED ON THE AGENDA BUILDER TOOL AND WE'VE TRANSITIONED OUR NEWS AND NOTES AWAY FROM CONSTANT CONTACT TO A PRODUCT WITHIN OUR WEB BUILDER. UPCOMING SOME OF OUR NEW INITIATIVES, WE'RE GOING TO RE-INITIATE THE CITIZEN'S SURVEY. LAST TIME WE DID THIS WAS 2019, 2017 PRIOR TO THAT, THEN WE HAD COVID WE DIDN'T DO THE CITIZEN SURVEYS, SO WE HAVE SIGNED, WE'VE GOTTEN THAT READY TO GO WITH POLL CO IS THE COMPANY IT'S THE SAME GROUP THAT DID THE ONES PREVIOUSLY AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME SMALLER SUB SURVEYS, IF YOU WILL AND THE CONTRACT IS OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS SO WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO PUT TOGETHER SOME GREAT SURVEYS. WE'RE LOOKING TO START THE PROCESS IN MARCH AND START THAT FIRST ROUND OF DATA COLLECTION IN MAY. ONE THING THAT I WOULD ASK OF YOU, CONCENTRATION AREAS OF INTEREST IN THIS COMING SURVEY HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED TO US AS CONSERVATION, AS WELL AS COMMUNICATIONS. WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE OF GETTING OUR INFORMATION OUT AND THEN ARE THERE ANY OTHER TOPICS THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS A CONCENTRATED AREA OF INTEREST? NEIGHBORHOOD GRANTS IS A PROGRAM THAT WE STILL HAVE. I'LL SAY OUT THERE, WE'RE REVITALIZING THE PROGRAM, THERE IS A LINE ITEM IN OUR BUDGET FOR THAT AND RIGHT NOW IT'S AT THE STAFF LEVEL DISCUSSION OF HOW TO REFINE THAT PROGRAM AND THESE ARE JUST SOME VISUAL EXAMPLES OF PREVIOUS GRANT PROGRAMS THAT WERE FUNDED, EXCUSE ME. SISTER CITIES IS ANOTHER EXCITING PROGRAM THAT'S COMING BACK TO LIFE. THE STUDENT EXCHANGE PROGRAM WAS SUSPENDED WHEN COVID HAPPENED AND WE'RE BRINGING THAT BACK. COMMISSIONERS SPRINGFIELD AND I BOTH ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS TO HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM THE CITY. WE'RE ALSO SHOWING SOME INCREASED INTEREST FROM FOREIGN CITIES, SUCH AS RUTENBERG, GERMANY AS WELL AS TEXACO, MEXICO. I WOULD SAY LASTLY, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY LASTLY, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF GOVERNMENT-TO-BUSINESS ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO DO AND BE A PART OF BECAUSE IT GETS US OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND KEEPS THE CITY IN FRONT OF THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE STAFF REPRESENTATION AT BOTH THE VCB AND THE TDC. MAYOR, YOU SIT ON THE TDC COMMISSIONER GARROS, YOU'VE JOINED THE VCB BOARD AS OUR ELECTED LIAISON I ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL. WE HAVE LEADERSHIP ST. JOHN'S I HOPE YOU GET OUR FOLKS LINED UP TO GO PARTICIPATE IN LEADERSHIP, [INAUDIBLE] AND I DID THAT IN 2018. WE ARE REPRESENTING A CHAMBER EVENTS. WE PAY AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THAT, SO WE MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ATTENDING THAT AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, THEY ASK US QUITE FREQUENTLY BETWEEN ELECTED AS WELL AS STAFF TO PRESENT TO THEIR COUNSEL ON THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE CITY. WE ALSO REPRESENT AT TOWN AND GOWN AND ALSO AGAIN, THE FLORIDA MUNICIPAL COMMUNICATORS ASSOCIATION. CINDY WAS ABLE TO GO TO A WORKSHOP AND I THINK IT WAS IN THE LAND FOR THAT. THAT'S CINDY THERE IN THAT PHOTO WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER COMMUNICATORS FROM ACROSS THE STATE. THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL WE DO AND IF YOU HAVE [01:35:01] ANY QUESTIONS AND THE OTHER THING I DID WANT TO OFFER, IF YOU'D LIKE, AS WE ARE HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY TYPE OF QUARTERLY OR HALF-YEARLY UPDATES, WE DO FIND THAT WHAT'S IMPORTANT WITH THE ANALYTICS THAT DIDN'T REALLY GET TOO MUCH INTO THE ANALYTICS REALLY TELL US WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT PEOPLE ARE RESPONDING TO, AND WHAT COMMUNITY SENTIMENT IS ABOUT ANY GIVEN TOPIC THAT'S GOING ON OR SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE. IF YOU EVER NEED ANYTHING FROM US ON A REPORT TYPE, WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER THEM. >> QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. >> OH, JUST OUTSTANDING. GETTING TO SEE IT ALL IN ONE PLACE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> YES. >> MAYOR, ONE THING I WANTED TO ADD IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE LEAGUE OF CITIES PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION, WE ARE INSTRUMENTAL UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF PAUL WILLIAMSON AT THAT TIME IN THE CREATION OF THAT PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION AS AN ARM OF THE LEAGUE OF CITIES. >> YES, YOU'RE RIGHT HE WAS A FOUNDING BOARD MEMBER OF THAT. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER SPRINGFIELD? >> YEAH. I KNOW YOU WENT IN FAST. >> [OVERLAPPING] I STARTED AT 25 MINUTES, I'M TELLING YOU. >> [LAUGHTER] I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I WANT TO GO BACK AND THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS NEED MORE DISCUSSION. ONE OF THEM IS THE ADA COMPLIANCE. I'VE WORKED IN TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN WERE SHOCKED THAT WE STARTED HAVING TO DO THIS. ARE THESE MEETINGS PRESENTED THAT WAY SO SOMEBODY TAKES OUR DIALOGUE? >> YES. DURING THE MEETING, IT IS NOT CLOSED CAPTIONED, BUT THE SWAG IT, WHICH IS OUR VENDOR WHO DOES THIS BY TOMORROW WHEN THE MEETINGS ARE POSTED LIVE, THERE IS CAPTIONING UNDERNEATH IT. >> HOW MUCH TIME DO YOUR STAFF SPEND ON THAT FUNCTION, OR IS IT ALL? >> FOR THE WEBSITE OR THE ADA COMPLIANCE? >> YES, ADA COMPLIANCE. >> PROBABLY 40%. >> YOU HAVE ONE STAFF MEMBER THAT SPENDS 40% OF THEIR TIME. >> DO YOU THINK 40%? THIRD OF IT? YEAH. >> OKAY. >> I'M HAPPY TO HAVE CINDY COME UP AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT [OVERLAPPING] >> JUST REALLY CURIOUS BECAUSE I KNOW HOW HARD IT WAS FOR FLAGLER COLLEGE AND FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO TURN THAT MEAN THEY CREATED POSITIONS FOR THAT. BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT DONE CORRECTLY AND TIMELY, IT CAN BE EXPENSIVE. >> OUR LEGAL ATTORNEY COULD PROBABLY VOUCH FOR THAT. WE DID RESPOND, AND WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN, WOULD YOU SAY WE WERE IN PART OF THAT ALSO? >> NO, WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THERE. I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE WEEDS. BUT THERE HAVE BEEN FOLKS HISTORICALLY THAT HAVE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED AND I THINK THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ONE OF THEM ON ADA COMPLIANCE. WE'VE BEEN AWARE OF THAT AND WE'VE PROACTIVELY MADE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WE WERE DOING WAS COMPLIANT. WE DID GET A COMPLAINT FROM THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND SUCCESSFULLY ANSWERED THAT. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN DOING HAS BEEN COMPLYING. IT DOES COVER A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS, SO IT'S NOT JUST COMMUNICATIONS. DARLENE HANDLES A LOT OF THE REQUESTS AS WELL. THERE'S MULTITUDES OF LEVELS OF FOLKS AT THE CITY THAT MAKES SURE THAT EVERYTHING WE DO IS COMPLIANT. >> I THINK ONE OF MY FEARS IS THAT WE WILL STOP DOING SOMETHING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT CORRECTLY. YES, THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE IF WE SAW THAT, LET'S JUST FORGET THE CERTAIN PARTS OF THE WEBSITE OR CERTAIN VIDEOS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THAT. I JUST HATE TO SEE THAT STOP BECAUSE THE MORE WE CAN DO, THE BETTER. >> THE ADA COMPLIANCE, I WOULD SAY, AND I WOULD APPLAUD CINDY FOR THIS. WHEN SHE CAME ON BOARD THAT WAS THE ONE THING THAT EVERY TIME SHE AND I WOULD START SITTING DOWN TO TALK ABOUT THINGS SHE'D SAY. WHAT ABOUT ADA? IF ANYBODY IS GOING TO BE ON IT, IT'S GOING TO BE CINDY. WE DO TRAIN SOME OF THE STAFF THAT ARE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS WHO DO UPLOADS TO THE WEBSITE FOR PDFS AND OTHER CONTENT. WE DO TRAIN OTHER STAFF WITHIN CITY STAFF SO THAT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES DOING IT, BUT I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR IT AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE WON'T LET FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> GREAT JOB. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TO ME OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THE QUESTION ABOUT TELEVISING OUR MEETINGS ON CABLE. MY QUESTION IS, AND I KNOW JOHN'S GOING TO GIVE US A REPORT ON THAT BEEN ANY ANSWER ON THAT SOONER OR LATER. BUT DO YOU GET REQUESTS IN YOUR OFFICE FOR TELEVISED MEETINGS? DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE STREAMING LIVE IS SUFFICIENT IN TODAY'S WORLD? OR, FRANKLY, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN SUBSCRIBE TO CABLE ANYMORE. [01:40:06] >> I'LL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT, BOTH MY OWN EXPERIENCE BUT ALSO IN POSITION AS COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR. I DO THINK THAT STREAMING IS SUFFICIENT. WE DO PROVIDE IT THE NEXT DAY IN THE SENSE THAT IF SOMEBODY MISS IT THAT THEY CAN GO BACK REPLAY, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO WATCH THE WHOLE MEETING EITHER. YOU CAN GO JUST TO THE AGENDA TOPIC THAT YOU WANT TO WATCH. I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING AND I DON'T THINK CINDY DOES EITHER. WHAT PEOPLE DO GET UPSET ABOUT IS WHEN THE STREAMING DOES GO DOWN BECAUSE THEY DO RELY ON IT, WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON. THAT'S USUALLY TECHNICAL ISSUE. AS LONG AS WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT INTEGRITY OF OUR STREAMING SERVICE, I THINK WE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT. >> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT ANSWER. IT CLARIFIES A FEW THINGS FOR ME THAT YOU ARE GETTING FEEDBACK ON HOW WE'RE COMMUNICATING AS FAR AS OUR MEETINGS ARE GOING. >> CORRECT. >> IT'S TELLING US THAT WHEN WE'RE NOT ABLE TO BROADCAST, WE HAVE GLITCHES OR WHATEVER. BECAUSE I DO GET THE TAX. I GET WELL. >> IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATED IF THERE'S NO AUDIO, WHICH JUST SHUT IT OFF BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO WATCH IT IF THEY CAN'T HEAR IT. >> I GOT YOU. THAT MAKES SENSE. JUST A COMMENT. YOU'VE PROBABLY ALL HEARD ME SAY THIS BEFORE. BUT IN TODAY'S WORLD, COMMUNICATION AND MEDIA IS IN A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION. SOME OF IT IS BECAUSE OF SOCIAL MEDIA. BUT MY OPINION IS THAT, AND I'VE SAID THIS TO MELISSA, AND I BELIEVED THAT WE NEED TO REALLY THINK HARD WHEN IT COMES BUDGET TIME, HOW WE'RE HANDLING THIS DEPARTMENT. BUT WE ARE SUFFERING UNDER A VERY STRONG LACK OF LOCAL NEWS. WE DON'T HAVE A NEWSPAPER THAT'S REALLY FUNCTIONING AS A LOCAL NEWSPAPER. SOMEBODY ELSE'S NEWS FROM BUDDIES, SOMEBODY ELSE'S CITY. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BEGIN TO THINK OF OUR OWN COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT IS MORE CRITICAL AND CRUCIAL THAN IT IS. AT LEAST HAS BEEN IN MY PAST THINKING. IT'S JUST THE ROLES ARE SHIFTING SO FAST THAT I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE HAVING TO PICK UP THE SLACK TO GET THE AUTHENTIC NEWS OUT. I JUST WANT TO HOPE THAT YOU ALL KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT BUDGETING AND HOW THE DEPARTMENT OPERATES. BECAUSE FRANKLY, SINCE I'VE BECOME MAYOR AFTER BEING A COMMISSIONER FOR SO LONG, I WAS NOT REALLY AWARE OF THE EXTENT OF THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING. IT IS INCREDIBLY INTENSE. WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT DEPARTMENT AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT THAT THOSE ARE THEIR DAILY SCHEDULED CALENDAR, THINGS THAT THEY DO, BUT THERE'S 100 MILLION ON TOP OF THAT THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT I REALLY DIDN'T MENTION. I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR WORK. THANK YOU. END UP BRANDS. THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] >> WE LOVE OUR JOBS. >> I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT TOO. HAVING WORKED FOR THE CITY, I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HOW INVOLVED THEY WERE UNTIL I BECAME A COMMISSIONER. GREAT JOB, MELISSA, CINDY, AND COREY FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT TEAM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MADAM MAYOR, I MADE THAT SAME COMMENT. I FORGET THE NAME OF THE MEETING IT SLIPS MY MIND. THERE WERE FOLKS THERE FROM THE BEACH, 1055.5, AND THEY ARE REBROADCASTING A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS ROOM, EVEN WITHOUT A REPORTER HERE, THEY'RE GRABBING IT FROM OUR WEBSITE, FROM OUR RECORDED LIVE STREAMS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO COLLABORATE WITH THEM TO TRY TO PROMOTE NOT THEM IN PARTICULAR BUT ANYBODY DOING LOCAL NEWS. HIGHLIGHTING THAT. I LET MY SUBSCRIPTION GO FOR THE REASON YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I COULDN'T GET MY NEWS ABOUT OTHER COMMUNITIES FROM OTHER PLACES. IT'S A REALLY UNFORTUNATE SITUATION THAT'S HAPPENING ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. >> I WILL OFFER YOU JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT. EACH OF FIVE PICKED UP OUR BREAK ROOM, AND I THINK I'VE SPOKEN TO A COUPLE OF YOU, BUT NOT ALL OF YOU. THEY ARE WANTING TO CONTINUE THAT. I THINK MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND MR. SPRINGFIELD HAVE NOT YET SPOKEN WITH THEM OR COMMISSIONER BLONDE OR BUT YES. LIZ RYAN IS ONE OF THEIR REPORTERS. >> YES. >> IT'S CONSTANTLY CALLING AND ASKING FOR FOLLOW-UP INTERVIEWS, AND SHE DOES A GREAT JOB. >> SHE REALLY DOES. >> IT'S A GOOD POINT, AND IT WILL BE CONSIDERED. MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. [12.A. Notification of two term expirations on the Lincolnville Community Redevelopment Area Steering Committee.] [NOISE] WE HAVE ITIS BY-CITY CLERK. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. COMMISSIONERS. MY FIRST ITEM TONIGHT IS JUST A NOTIFICATION THAT WE HAVE [01:45:04] UPCOMING TERM EXPLORATIONS FOR THE LINCOLN BILL COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREAS STEERING COMMITTEE. THIS JUST STARTS THE PROCESS OF ADVERTISING AND I KNOW JAMIE IS ALREADY ACTIVELY WORKING ON GETTING APPLICATIONS FOR THAT. MY NEXT ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF [12.B. Request for appointments to the St. Augustine Audit Review Committee.] TWO MEMBERS WHO ARE ST. AUGUSTINE AUDIT REVIEW COMMITTEE. I'M VERY HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TWO VERY QUALIFIED APPLICANTS, THOMAS GILBOY, AND DONALD RAMOS. JUST AS A REMINDER, THE MAYOR SERVES AS CHAIR ON THIS COMMITTEE. >> WE HAVE TWO APPLICANTS AND WE HAVE TWO [OVERLAPPING] POSITIONS. ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS AND MAKE THEIR DECISIONS. ARE YOU READY TO ACCEPT? >> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT THE TWO APPLICANTS THEY'RE WELL-QUALIFIED. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. I AGREE WITH THE CITY CLERK THAT THEY ARE WELL-QUALIFIED. >> WE'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. LOVE THOSE UNANIMOUS VOTES. I BELIEVE OUR LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE MAYOR'S COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS [13.A. Presentation and discussion of the final report on the Sociable City Assessment.] IS THE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE FINAL REPORT ON THIS SOCIABLE CITY ASSESSMENT. CITY MANAGER REAGAN, YOU'RE ON. >> MAYOR COMMISSIONERS, THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO FUNDAMENTALLY BRING BACK FROM A BACK-BURNER OF WORK EFFORTS MORE TOWARDS THE FRONT BURNER. THE ISSUE OF THE SOCIABLE CITY, THE RESPONSIBLE HOSPITALITY INSTITUTE. IT HAS TO DO WITH HOW WE MANAGE DOWNTOWN NIGHTLIFE. TO SET THE STAGE, I'M GOING TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I SEE IS THE TURNING POINTS THAT I'VE GOT THE DOWNTOWN NIGHTLIFE WHERE IT IS TODAY. I WANT TO SAY ABOUT 2018 THAT MARION SYKES'S CLIMB REALLY PROVIDED THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP AT THE COMMISSION TO START TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING AND HOW WE SHOULD BE MANAGING IT, AND HOW WE SHOULD BE INTERACTING WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. OUR BACKUP JUST A LITTLE BIT TO 2005. 2005 WAS THE YEAR THE CITY MODIFIED THE DRINKING HOURS FROM MIDNIGHT TO 2:00 AM. IT WAS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE SUPER BOWL THAT WAS HELD IN JACKSONVILLE. THE DRINKING HOURS WERE EXTENDED TO ACCOMMODATE THE SUPER BOWL AND IT WAS NEVER RETRACTED BACK TO MIDNIGHT FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT YEARS. THEN, AS WE HAVE EVOLVED AS A SOCIETY, THERE'S A COUPLE MEGATRENDS THAT ARE NOT UNIQUE TO ST. AUGUSTINE. ONE IS THAT AS A NATION, WE'VE OVERBUILT THE AMOUNT OF AVAILABLE RETAIL FOOTPRINT FOR RETAIL OPERATIONS. COUPLED OUT AS COMPARED TO MOST INDUSTRIALIZED SOCIETIES. THEN WE'VE ALSO CHANGED THE WAY THAT WE BUY. WE BUY OVER THE INTERNET. WE DON'T GO TO STORES THE WAY THAT WE USE TO. THEN, I THINK IT WAS 2016 OR SO, OUR CULTURAL PATTERN HAS CHANGED. IN THAT, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME, RIGHT ABOUT THEN, THAT HOW WE PURCHASE FOOD THAT WE EAT AND HOW WE INTERACT CHANGE TO THE DEGREE THAT ON A PER CAPITA BASIS, WE CROSSED A THRESHOLD WHERE WE ARE BUYING MORE FOOD OUT THAN WE ARE BUYING AT THE GROCERY STORE. ALL OF THESE TRENDS HAVE CAUSED A SHIFT IN NOT JUST US, BUT ALMOST MOST URBAN AREAS TO REALLY, IT FAVORS THE EVOLUTION OF YOUR DOWNTOWNS INTO FOOD AND BEVERAGE. WE'VE SEEN THAT HERE IN ST. AUGUSTINE. DURING THE 2010S, THE NUMBER OF FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN PERMITTED AS FOOD AND BEVERAGE THAT SERVE ALCOHOL HAS GONE UP QUITE A BIT. THE RESPONSIBLE HOSPITALITY INSTITUTE IS A ORGANIZATION THAT HELPS CITIES GET A HANDLE ON THIS TOPIC, AND COME TO TERMS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A VIBRANT COMMUNITY, THAT WE HAVE A SAFE COMMUNITY, AND A WELCOMING COMMUNITY. [01:50:02] WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE STARTED THIS INITIATIVE PRIOR TO COVID, INCLUDING A REGULATORY INITIATIVE TO DEVELOP BETTER TOOLS FOR US TO ENFORCE ON THE LATE-NIGHT HOURS. WE WENT THROUGH A PERIOD WHERE WE HAD SOME TRAGIC CIRCUMSTANCES. WE HAD SOME MURDERS, SOME OVER-SERVING THAT RESULTED IN TERRIBLE TRAGEDIES. A LITANY OF THINGS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED FUNDAMENTALLY WITH SAFETY, AND REALLY OUR COMMUNITY TAKING REALLY HEADED IN A DIRECTION THAT ARGUABLY IS NOT THE DIRECTION THAT WE SEE IN OUR VISION. I'LL SAY THIS, WHEN WE BEGAN AND I STARTED LOOKING AT THIS AND UNDERSTANDING OTHER CITIES. MOST CITIES DON'T ENGAGE THE RESPONSIBILITY OR MANY DO NOT ENGAGE IN THE LEVEL OF WORK THAT WAS COMPLETED RECENTLY UNTIL THEY HIT ROCK BOTTOM. WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR A ROCK BOTTOM, BUT WE'D NEVER WANT EVEN WANT TO APPROACH A ROCK BOTTOM. WEST PALM BEACH WAS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF CHANGING THE DYNAMICS OF THEIR DOWNTOWN NIGHTLIFE CULTURE. WHEN I VISITED WITH AT THE TIME OUR POLICE CHIEF BARRY FOX, WE WATCHED VIDEOS OF GANG INTERACTIONS, CARS DRIVING THROUGH CAFE SEATING, JUST HORRENDOUS CIRCUMSTANCES. IN ALL THE DATA WAS SAYING, LOOK, WE BETTER START GETTING A HANDLE ON THIS AND WE HAVE TO COMPLIMENT AND THANK THE MAYOR. BUT WHEN WE GOT STARTED, BUT WHEN COVID HIT, WE REALLY PUT IT TO THE BACK BURNER BECAUSE WE GOT INTO THE SURVIVAL OF THE COMMUNITY, OF THE ECONOMY AS A FUNCTION OF COVID. IT WAS NOT A PERIOD WHERE PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED. NOT THAT THEY ARE VERY OFTEN INTERESTED IN ADDITIONAL REGULATION, BUT JUST THE ABILITY TO DO THE COLLABORATION THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS TYPE OF WORK COULDN'T BE CONDUCTED. WE RAMPED BACK UP IN 2022. THE REPORT, WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH AT A HIGH LEVEL, DEMONSTRATES THE COMMUNITY INTERACTION THAT RESULTED IN THE WORK THAT WE SEE HERE. IN YOUR PACKET, BY THE WAY, THERE ARE TWO DOCUMENTS. THERE'S AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY DOCUMENT AND THEN A LITTLE LONGER VERSION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PILLARS OF WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LAY A GOOD FOUNDATION FOR THE SOCIAL ECONOMY TO EVOLVE, TO PLAN FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VIBRATING AND ALSO THAT IT'S SAFE. THE OTHER THING THAT ALSO IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IS THAT STARTING IN 2012, WE STARTED A SERIES OF ANNUAL COMMEMORATION CELEBRATIONS CULMINATING IN THE 2015. THAT REALLY PUT US ON THE MAP FROM A TOURISM LEVEL. REALLY OUR TOURISM NUMBERS JUMPED, THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY, JUST PUT MORE PEOPLE WANTING TO COME TO ST. AUGUSTINE AND MORE OF A DRIVE FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGE. I WOULD SAY THAT AT THE CORE OF THIS HAS BEEN STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT. WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS BACK IN A HEAVY WAY IN 2022, WE HAD NEARLY 130 INDIVIDUALS THAT REPRESENTED 81 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND WERE COMPANIES TO BE ENGAGED IN A SERIES OF BREAKDOWNS TO LOOK AT HOW TO MOVE THE COMMUNITY FORWARD IN A POSITIVE WAY. SOME THINGS THAT WERE LOOKED AT WERE PUBLIC SAFETY, VENUE SAFETY, QUALITY OF LIFE, MOBILITY, SOCIAL VENUES, PUBLIC SPACE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WERE THE AIMS OF THE PROJECT, WERE TO PRESERVE AN ADVOCATE FOR THE SOCIAL AND CULTURAL, AND ECONOMIC VALUE OF THE DOWNTOWN NIGHTLIFE ECONOMY. IT'S PARTICULARLY DOWNTOWN NIGHTLIFE, BUT IT'S REALLY DINING IN ENTERTAINMENT. REALLY IT'S A 24/7 ELEMENT OF THE ECONOMY. TO EXAMINE RISK FACTORS FOR CRIME. TO SUSTAIN A PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE, WE CONSTANTLY HEAR ABOUT THE TENSION BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN A MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE'VE HAD A REAL FLIGHT REALLY, OF RESIDENTS THAT LIVE DOWNTOWN. A LOT OF WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS CREATING A BETTER ENVIRONMENT THAT PERHAPS COULD ENCOURAGE THE RETURN OF RESIDENT DOWNTOWN, WHICH I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT. BASICALLY TO ENHANCE THAT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. YOU CAN READ THE REPORT, [01:55:01] I'M SURE THAT YOU HAVE, BUT IT GETS INTO SOME VIEWS OF THESE TOPICS WITHIN THE CITY. IT TAKES A LITTLE DEEPER DIVE, PARTICULARLY IN THE WOMEN'S PERSPECTIVE OF THE SOCIAL ECONOMY AND PERCEPTION OF SAFETY. IT HAS A SECTION, WE'VE HAD A LARGE SHIFT IN THE ECONOMY TO THE EXTENT THAT WHAT DRIVES MUCH OF THE DOWNTOWN NIGHTLIFE IS THE WEDDING INDUSTRY. IT CREATES NEW PERTURBATIONS WITH LARGE RELEASES OF VERY DRUNK PEOPLE. WITHIN IT IS AN INVENTORY SNAPSHOT OF THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE SELLING ALCOHOL IN OUR LITTLE DOWNTOWN. IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, KEEP IN MIND THAT'S NOT THE ENTIRE CITY, WE HAVE 108 SO WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER SOCIAL VENUES, WE HAVE 81 VENUES THAT ARE SERVING ALCOHOL. WE HAVE THIS DISPARITY AND LICENSING WORKAROUNDS THAT BUSINESSES FIND WITH THE STATE. WHERE YOU MIGHT LICENSE YOURSELF AS A RESTAURANT, REALLY FUNCTION IN THE LATE NIGHT AS MORE OF A NIGHTCLUB OR AN ENTERTAINMENT ZONE. WHAT WAS DRIVING THIS, I MIGHT ADD IS THAT THERE WERE OTHER TRAGIC EVENTS AROUND THE COUNTRY WHERE WE SAID WE DON'T WANT TO BE THAT. THERE WAS FOR EXAMPLE A MASS SHOOTING IN THE DOWNTOWN ENTERTAINMENT ZONE IN A COMMUNITY IN OHIO. THE AMOUNT OF TIME BETWEEN THE SHOOTER SHOOTING AND THE FIRST INTERACTION AND A POLICE OFFICER SHOT WAS LIKE 21 SECONDS AND IT WAS LIKE SIX PEOPLE KILLED AS I RECALL. THERE'S TRENDS THAT ARE CAUSING US TO WANT TO REALLY BE ON TOP OF THIS. NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IS, WHEN WE REENGAGED TO COMPLETE THIS STUDY IN 2022. I LEAD AN OUTREACH MEETING WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, WITH THE RESTAURANT AND BAR INDUSTRY [NOISE] ABOUT COMING BACK ON THIS TOPIC OF A REGULATORY FRAMEWORK TO HELP CONTROL NIGHTLIFE AND CREATING SOME STANDARDS. WE HAD DRAFTED AN ORDINANCE THAT AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL ADDRESSED THIS ONE TOPIC, THAT SELLING ALCOHOL AFTER MIDNIGHT TO MIDNIGHT IS REGULATED BY THE STATE, BUT ANYTHING AFTER MIDNIGHT IS REALLY REGULATED BY THE CITY, AND SO IT'S REALLY MORE OF A PRIVILEGE THAN IT IS A RIGHT. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAD PROPOSED A REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT CALLS FOR A PERMITTING PROCESS, THAT CALLS FOR A STANDARDS OF TRAINING, STANDARDS OF PROFESSIONALISM, STANDARDS OF NOISE CONTROL, [NOISE] AND THE ABILITY TO DO QUICKER ENFORCEMENT ON BUSINESSES THAT ARE SELLING ALCOHOL LATE INTO THE EVENING. YOU CAN ARGUE THAT EVERYTHING THAT IS OUT THERE, THERE IS A CODE FOR IT OR THE STATE REGULATES IT, BUT IT IS VERY ARDUOUS AND VERY DIFFICULT, AND WHAT THIS DOES IS MOST OF OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY REALLY DOES A GREAT JOB. BUT IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT ISN'T THAT WE HAVE A SIMPLER MECHANISM TO TAKE THROUGH A PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE PROCESS. [NOISE] I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN YOU WORK TO CALLING, A BAD ACTOR, IT LIKE ON A SOUND COMPLAINT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT. WE HAD A BUSINESS, LOCAL HEROES. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE SPENT LEGALLY TO DEAL WITH IT, IT WAS VERY COMPLICATED. THIS WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN ABILITY TO KEEP CONTROL AND REALLY MAINTAIN THAT QUALITY OF LIFE BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK AHEAD. I JUST TONIGHT WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THIS WAS ABOUT. WHERE DID IT COME FROM? WHERE CAN IT LEAD? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE HAD A MOMENT ON THE AGENDA WITH OUR NEWLY CEDED COMMISSION IN PLACE THAT CAN SUSTAIN THE LONG HAUL THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH DOING THIS. ORLANDO HAS BEEN VERY MUCH ON THE FOREFRONT, OF THIS TOPIC WITH THEIR DOWNTOWN NIGHTLIFE ISSUES. [NOISE] I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT COUPLED WITH WHAT I [02:00:05] ULTIMATELY WOULD LIKE TO ENGAGE THE COMMISSION ON IS STRATEGIES OF HOW TO BRING BACK RESIDENTS TO DOWNTOWN. BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE A DOWNTOWN THAT IS ATTRACTIVE, THAT'S GOING TO BE A HARD LIFT. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, AND TO GET IT BACK ON THE BUSINESS COMMUNITIES RADAR AND THEN MOVE IT FORWARD. I REALLY JUST GAVE IT IN HIGH LEVEL BECAUSE THERE'S A DETAILED REPORT THAT YOU CAN READ ON SOME OF THE TOPICS AND WITH THAT, MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF PRESENTATION AND OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. THEN ALSO THAT THE EXTENDED HOURS PERMIT SCENARIO WAS MADE INTO AN ORDINANCE AND IT DID GO TO FIRST READING, SO IT HAD GONE TO FIRST READING AND I BELIEVE THE TIME THAT IT BEGAN WAS WE HAD SETTLED ON MIDNIGHT, I BELIEVE IT WAS, MIDNIGHT IS WHEN THE CITY BEGAN ITS ENFORCEMENT OF THE PROVISIONS THAT WERE IN IT. I THINK THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD BEFORE I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY HAD TO SAY, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS GET BACK ON TRACK. BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT OURSELVES BEFORE WE GET IT OUT THERE. >> [NOISE] HAVE WE HAD MEETINGS WITH THE BUSINESSES ABOUT THE TIME PERIOD OR? >> WE HAVE IN 2022, IN THE SPRING SUMMER, WE WERE VERY ACTIVE. BUT IT'S KNOWING WHERE WE'RE COMING INTO SEEDING A NEW COMMISSION. IT'S REALLY TOUGH ON THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WHEN GOVERNMENTS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT LIGHTS, AND SO WE WANTED TO BE FAIR TO WAIT TO THE RIGHT MOMENT. SO WE'RE NOW AT THE MOMENT TO BECOME REENGAGED, TO WORK ON RULE-MAKING, AS WELL AS THE OTHER TOPICS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE EMBEDDED IN THE REPORT. >> I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THE CHIEF HAS TO SAY ABOUT THE LAW AND THE HOURS OF PAST MIDNIGHT, HOW THAT AFFECTS HER OFFICE, IF SHE DOESN'T MIND COMING FORWARD. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. JENNIFER MICHELLE, CHIEF OF POLICE. WE TALKED ABOUT, THE WEDDING VENUES AND THE WEDDING VENUES DO LET OUT AND THEY JUST THROW THEM IN THE STREETS. THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS DON'T CHANGE AT THAT TIME, SO OUR RESPONSE TIMES AS A CONCERN, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DOWNTOWN WITH THE STAFF AS ON PATROL IS A MAJOR CONCERN BECAUSE OUR RESPONSE TIME, WE HAVE THE BIKE OFFICERS DOWNTOWN OR IF THEY WILL MAKE AN ARREST THEY'RE NOT ANYWHERE NEARBY. YOUR CLOSEST OFFICER WILL BE YOUR ISLAND OFFICER, IF THE BRIDGE IS UP. THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS AT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER MIDNIGHT, TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THERE WITH ALL THE VENUES THAT WE HAVE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO RIDE ALONGS WITH THE OFFICERS SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH [INAUDIBLE]. WE TRY NOT TO ARREST PEOPLE. ONCE YOU ARREST SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN DRINKING, YOU HAVE TAKE THEM TO THE HOSPITAL, GET MEDICALLY CLEARED, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE HIM TO THE JAIL. WE'LL LOSE AN OFFICER FROM ANYWHERE FROM AN HOUR TO THREE HOURS, IT DEPENDS HOW MUCH ALCOHOL THEY HAD AT THAT POINT, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. BUT I REALLY ENCOURAGE RIDE ALONGS WE'VE HAD TWO SITTING COMMISSIONERS RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE DONE RIDE ALONGS. >> THANK YOU. >> MADAM, THANK YOU. CHIEF, WHEN I DID THE RIDE ALONG, I WAS STRUCK BY WHAT GOES ON [LAUGHTER] AFTER I GO TO BED. BUT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME TOO, THAT ONE OF THE BAR OWNERS REACHED OUT TO ME AND ASKED ME TO LISTEN TO HIS PERSPECTIVE ON THE POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED REGULATION AND IT NEVER OCCURRED TO ME. HE WAS TELLING ME THAT HE GETS THE WEDDING PARTIES AFTER THEY'VE BEEN DRINKING A LOT AND THEN THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GO THAT'S OPEN, AND HE'S CONCERNED ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WHO, IT'S OUTLINED IN HERE, HAVE ALREADY BEEN PREPPED, COME TO HIM AND THEN HE'S PENALIZED POTENTIALLY FOR THEIR BEHAVIOR AS THEY TRY TO COME INTO HIS BAR, [02:05:03] AND YOUR OFFICERS ARE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THEM AND THEIR BEHAVIORS. IT JUST STRIKES ME IN PARTICULAR IN THIS REPORT, THERE'S SO MUCH IN HERE. I PROBABLY WANT TO READ IT THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE MORE TIMES, BUT THERE IS A CONVERGENCE BETWEEN THE WEDDING INDUSTRY THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY HANDLE ON, THEY MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. WE NEED TO DO THAT RIGHT AWAY, I THINK. BUT CONVERGENCE BETWEEN THE WEDDING INDUSTRY IN THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL INDUSTRY, AND HOW BOTH HAVE COMBINED AND SEPARATELY PUT A LOT OF STRESS ON OUR CITY AND OUR RESOURCES, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR PERSONNEL. I THINK THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THERE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON AND COME UP WITH STRATEGIES THAT IMPROVE THE LIVABILITY OF OUR CITY, BRING RESIDENTS BACK INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND SO FORTH. >> THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST ANSWER BY SAYING THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND GET SOME HANDLE ON THE WEDDING INDUSTRY, INITIATING THE AFTER OUR PERMITS AT MIDNIGHT WILL NOT AFFECT THAT AT ALL. IF YOU WAIT THAT LATE. BECAUSE THE WEDDING LOADS OUT AT WHAT? 10:30? >> THAT'S THE TIME MOST OF THE WEDDING VENUES IS CLOSED. >> OKAY. 11:00 AND 12:30. >> BUT THE NORMAL INDIVIDUAL DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR ALCOHOL LEVEL MIGHT BE MIDSTREAM. BUT AS YOUR BODY STARTS TO METABOLIZE, YOUR ALCOHOL LEVEL IS GOING UP. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE HAD 100 MORE DUIS LAST YEAR THAN WE DID THE YEAR BEFORE. I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT THE COUNTY'S NUMBERS. BUT FOR THE PD, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. >> WHAT RIGHT PERCENTAGE RISES THAT? IT'S HARD IN CONTEXT WHEN YOU SAY 100 OR WHATEVER 200 THE YEAR BEFORE OR IS THAT 300 NOW INSTEAD OF 200 OR?I HAD IT WRITTEN DOWN, I DID NOT FIND THAT INFORMATION. [OVERLAPPING] >> WELL, I KNOW WE'RE ASKING YOU ON THE FLIGHT. >> I KNOW IT WAS 100 MORE. >> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S SIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. >> HUNDREDS IS A HUNDRED, THAT'S 100 OFFICERS IN THAT SCENARIO THAT YOU'RE TELLING US ABOUT. >> MOST OF THEM ARE AT NIGHT. YES, WE DO GET THEM DURING THE DAY. BUT THAT RISE WAS DURING THE EVENING HOURS. >> WELL SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, AND TO NEW COMMISSIONERS, AND I DO KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT THAT'S THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE TAX THAT MIAMI HAS MANAGED TO PUT ON. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING TO GET MORE RESOURCES, MORE POLICE TO HANDLE THIS, WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON RESEARCHING THAT STILL. >> WE'VE RESEARCHED THAT THE ANSWER REMAINS THE SAME THUS FAR, THE ONLY LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT'S BEEN ABLE TO PASS THAT STATE STATUTE YEARS AGO WAS MIAMI SO IT'S SIMPLY A MATTER OF I DON'T WANT TO SAY POLITICAL CLOUT. NEAR A BETTER WORD THAN POLITICAL CLOUT. >> WELL, THAT LOBBYING OUR LEGISLATOR. >> CORRECT, SO AND I THINK IT'S ON A TO DO LIST, BUT WHETHER THAT'LL BE SUCCESSFUL AND HOW FAST THAT MIGHT BE. I DON'T KNOW. >> THROUGH THE MAYOR, OUR LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANTS [NOISE] BASICALLY OUTLINED THAT IN TALLAHASSEE CLIMATE WOULDN'T BE VERY FAVORABLE FOR THAT TYPE OF NEW TAXATION, NOT NECESSARILY IMPOSSIBLE, BUT WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT THAT AS A MECHANISM ON HOMELESSNESS NOW BUT CERTAINLY PART OF OUR EFFORTS ARE ALWAYS INVOLVED IN FINANCING IF WE HAVE TO STEP UP A SURFACE LEVEL. WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OPTIONS. >> THANK YOU AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU BROUGHT UP MIAMI BECAUSE THEY JUST RECENTLY PASSED A REGULATION NO PACKAGE SALES AFTER 08:00 PM. YES YOU MAY WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT CIRCUMSTANCES INVOLVED. >> MAYOR I HAD SHARED WITH THE MAYOR A TRIP AND MAY IF IT'S OKAY, MAYBE I COULD COVER THOSE DETAILS. >> WOULD YOU PLEASE? >> MIAMI BEACH REALLY IS VERY MUCH LIKE ST. AUGUSTINE IN THE COMPRESSION WITH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. BUT IN THEIR CASE, THEY HAVE CLUBS THAT GO TO FIVE IN THE MORNING AND JUST TONS OF TRAFFIC AND NOISE AND SO FORTH. THEY WENT THROUGH HEAVY PUSH BACK AND A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO I WENT DOWN ON VACATION TO SOUTH BEACH AND I WAS AMAZED AT HOW DIFFERENT SOUTH BEACH WAS MUCH MORE QUIET, CONTROLLED, AND SPENT SOME TIME TALKING TO [02:10:02] THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY ABOUT HOW THAT HAPPENED. IT WAS MIAMI BEACH IN THAT THEY HAD PASSED. WE NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH ON THIS BECAUSE THIS IS COMING THROUGH HOSPITALITY WORKERS STAYING AT A HOTEL. BUT THAT THEY HAD PASSED A REGULATION THAT PREVENTED RETAIL LIQUOR SALES AFTER AFTER 8:00 PM, 8:00 PM WAS A CUTOFF. LIQUOR SALES NO MORE AFTER 8:00 PM. THEY ALSO HAD DONE A ROAD RECONFIGURATION ON OCEAN DRIV E THAT CUT NO TRAFFIC ON THREE BLOCKS OF LIKE A 15 BLOCK AREA, AND THEN RETURNED THE ROAD TO BE SOUTHBOUND AND PUT PARKING LANES IN AS TWO WAY BICYCLE PATHS AND SO FORTH COMPLETELY CHANGED THE DYNAMICS. THEN ALSO GAVE YOU A MESSAGE WHEN YOUR INBOUND ON THE CAUSEWAYS THAT NO HONKING BECAUSE THEY HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS PEOPLE HONKING AND PLAYING LOUD MUSIC THROUGH CARS. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN IN SOUTH BEACH ON A SATURDAY NIGHT, IT'S LIKE A CONSTANT STREAM OF ALL TYPES OF CARS AND MUSIC. BUT NO HONKING, NO NOISE, NOISE ORDINANCE STRICTLY ENFORCED. PART OF WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IS TO DO A LITTLE BIT IN BENCH MARKING AGAINST MIAMI BEACH TO SEE HOW THEY DID THAT AND WHAT DROVE THEM THERE. ALL THESE THINGS FIT TOGETHER. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TONIGHT WAS JUST TO START THE RE-ENGAGEMENT IN THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR NINE MONTHS AND SO AGAIN, I HAD SHARED THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MAYOR AND I JUST. [NOISE] >> THEY TOOK A VERY UNIQUE APPROACH AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. I THINK I'VE SENT THE INFORMATION ON I LOOKED UP THE CODE. YES, GO AHEAD. >> I'M SORRY, I FORGOT ONE IMPORTANT DETAIL. >> OKAY. >> THEY ALSO ROLLED BACK THE DRINKING HOURS, THE LATE NIGHT HOURS. THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS. >> THE PARKING SALES AFTER 8:00 PM, ROLLED THE DRINKING HOURS BACK AND THEY DID IT IN A REALLY IN A WAY THROUGH GEOGRAPHY, AUSTIN, THE INFORMATION THROUGH TO THE CITY ATTORNEYS AS YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AS WELL, BUT THEN ALSO ORLANDO TOOK THE STEP OF UPDATING THEIR EXTENDED HOUR PERMIT TO INCLUDE I BELIEVE IT'S SECURITY ON ENTRANCE OR SEARCH THROUGH ENTRANCE BEFORE ENTERING, AND THEN I SHOULDN'T SPEAK OUT OF TURN BY NET WITHOUT KNOWING ALL OF IT. BUT I THINK THAT IT'S WHEN IS IT PATRON ENTERS. THEY ARE SCREENED FOR WEAPONS. THAT COST WAS PASSED ALONG. THE COST OF MAINTAINING THAT IT'S PASSED ALONG TO THE VENUE. EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A VENUE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING THAT SERVICE. I MAY BE SPEAKING OUT OF TURN, BUT I CERTAINLY PROVIDE YOU WITH THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE I HAVE THAT AS WELL. BUT WHAT THEY DID AT THE SAME TIME WAS ALSO PROVIDED GRANTS TO HELP THE BUSINESSES PAY FOR THE ADDITIONAL UPGRADES TO THEIR SECURITY EQUIPMENT. BUT MY POINT IS THERE'S MOVEMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO COMMENT IS ABOUT WE'VE HAD AT CLOSING TIME AND I WAS I'M GOING TO ASK CHIEF IF SHE MIGHT COMMENT, BUT AT THESE WHAT WE DISCUSSED IT I'VE BEEN TO CONFERENCES. I DON'T KNOW IF THREE CONFERENCES WENT ONLINE AND A COUPLE OF IN-PERSON VISITED THOSE, LISTENED TO THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, LISTEN TO THEIR CONCERNS. CLOSING TIME IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT EVERYBODY SECURE. LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT NATIONWIDE. WHEN WE GO TO THE CONFERENCES, THERE ARE A LOT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. IN FACT IT'S MOSTLY LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT GOES TO THE RESPONSIBLE HOSPITALITY INSTITUTE CONFERENCES AND TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES. BUT MY QUESTION IS WE'VE HAD TWO SHOOTING DEATHS AFTER BAR CLOSING TIME, AND SO WHAT I HAVE LEARNED IS THAT IF YOU COULD JUST GET PEOPLE HOME OUT SAFELY AND HOME QUICKER, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO LESSEN THAT POSSIBILITY. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? >> I THINK THE CITY MANAGER, WHEN HE SAID THAT THERE ARE SOME BAD ACTORS OUT THERE, THAT IS TRUE. I THINK WHEN I HAD DO MY RIDE ALONG, I CALL THE FORT AREA THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE AND WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN YOU HAVE DIFFERENT ENTITIES MERGING TOGETHER, DIFFERENT BARS, DIFFERENT LIFESTYLES, DIFFERENT MUSIC, [02:15:03] AND THEN THEY ALL MERGE TOGETHER AND THEY'VE BEEN DRINKING MORE THAN THEY PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BAD THINGS HAPPEN. NOW, THE SHOOTINGS AFTERWARDS, THEY CLOSE THE DOORS AND THEY LEAVE IT TO US. THAT IS TRUE. THEY DID THEIR JOB. THEIR DOORS ARE CLOSED BY OUR ORDINANCE AND THERE'S NO MORE ALCOHOL SALES, NO MORE ALCOHOL EVEN ALLOWED ON THE BARS, EVEN FOR THEM TO CLEAN UP AND DRINK, THEIR NAME IS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT AND WE CHECK THEM, WHEN WE HAVE TIME. BUT THE INCIDENCES RECENTLY, THEY'RE JUST LOCALS. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM BEEN LOCALS, ALCOHOL AND DRUG AND WEAPONS INVOLVED ONCE A BAR IS CLOSED AND THEY'RE OUTSIDE AND THE MOST RECENT ONES. >> I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW THE NEW THING THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE YOU CAN CARRY HOW'S THAT GOING TO WORK? YOU WON'T NEED ANY DETECTORS BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS ALLOWED TO CARRY. >> WILL NOT STILL BE ABLE TO CARRY IT INTO A BAR THOUGH. >> OH, THANK GOODNESS. >> YES, BUT IT IS TRICKY BECAUSE WE ARE PREEMPTED FROM LOCAL REGULATIONS ON GUN CONTROL. THAT'S THE OTHER LITTLE FLIP SIDE TO THAT. >> COULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? >> WE ARE PREEMPTED FROM DOING GUN CONTROL AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, STATE PREEMPTION. >> BUT IT IS A FACT THAT THEY CANNOT TAKE GUNS INTO BAR, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. BUT THAT IS STATE STATUTE, I BELIEVE IS WHAT THE CHIEF WAS SPEAKING TO. IF YOU WERE THINKING OF DOING A LOCAL ORDINANCE, THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE A TYPE OF GUN CONTROL REGULATION THAT WOULD BE UNLIKELY TO BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DO. >> THE STATUTE ACTUALLY SAYS THAT WE COULD BE FINED PERSONALLY. >> CORRECT. >> TO EXPAND ON WHAT THE MAYOR WAS REQUESTING AS ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE IS A LOCAL PICKUP AND DROP-OFF AND OFFICER D BROWN WAS REALLY LOOKING HARD INTO THAT BECAUSE I HAD AN OFFICER SAID ON EACH OF THE PANELS, EACH OF THE ROUND TABLES TO BRING BACK INFORMATION AND WE JUST WANT ONE LOCATION. YOU EVER SEEN A GAME FROG OR THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS DOWN ON THE BAY FRONT AND IN THAT AREA. I'M KICKING STRAIGHT AT NIGHT BECAUSE THE UBER AND LYFT, THEY JUST STOP WHERE THEY WANT DO THERE'S NOT A DESIGNATED AREA. THAT WAS ONE OF OUR IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO TOUCH ON AND WE WERE IN TOUCH WITH BOTH COMPANIES HOW TO DO IT BECAUSE ORLANDO DOES IT VERY WELL. THAT WOULD STOP PEOPLE FROM WALKING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS AND DECIDING WHERE THEIR LYFT IS GOING TO PICK THEM UP BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE A LOT OF OUR NOISE COMPLAINTS COME FROM IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THINKS THEY'RE QUIET AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT CAR TO GET INTO. >> THEY MAKE A LOT OF RACKET AT NIGHT, JUST BEING HAPPY AND DRUNK. BUT THAT IS ONE OF THEM. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD SOLUTION FOR US. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. RUBEN FRANKLIN AND I VISITED ORLANDO AND WATCH THEIR TRANSIT MOBILITY HUB. THEY CREATED AN AFTER HOURS MOBILITY HUB WHERE IT'S NEAR RESTAURANTS BECAUSE THEY ASK THEMSELVES THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO YOU DO AT CLOSING TIME? WHAT DOES EVERYBODY NEED A CLOSING HAN, THEY NEED A RIDE HOME. THEY NEED A RESTROOM AND MAYBE SOMETHING, A CUP OF COFFEE AND A BITE TO EAT. THEY SET UP TRANSIT MOBILITY HUB IN THE EVENING NEAR THEIR PUBLIC BATHROOMS WITH SECURITY, GOOD LIGHTING, A COUPLE OF FOOD TRUCKS. THEY CREATED AN AIRPORT MODEL, UBER, LYFT STATION HUB. WE VISITED, IT LOOKED GOING VERY WELL. >> [INAUDIBLE] IDENTIFIED REALLY GOOD AREAS TO DO THAT ON THE CITY TALKING TO [OVERLAPPING] >> WE HAVE A TEARDROP. WE HAVE SO THE QUESTION. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS DETERMINE WHERE ARE THEY PARKING AND TRY AND FIND A LOCATION NEAR THERE TO DO THAT CONCEPT, BUT THAT'S GETTING INTO THE GRITTY DETAILS, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS OF SOLUTIONS, WE JUST NEED TO TALK THE DISCUSSION, GET THE DISCUSSION GOING AND SEE WHAT THE COMMISSIONER WANTS TO DO IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE SITTING OR LAYING ON THE TABLE AND WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH THAT. >> I DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LIST IS 720. WE'VE PROBABLY TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THEM, SO I WON'T GO INTO, BUT WHAT I WANTED US TO TALK ABOUT IS A TIMELINE. SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE NOT PRECLUDED FOR ONE THING HAPPENING FOR ANOTHER, LIKE THE DROP-OFF FOR THE UBER IS SOMETHING THAT COULD HAPPEN BEFORE AN ORDINANCE CHANGE ON THE 2 O'CLOCK. I THINK IF WE COULD MAKE A GOOD LIST OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO AND START GETTING SOME OF THESE THINGS KNOCKED OFF THE LIST SOONER THAN LATER AND NOT TRY TO WAIT TILL THE END TO GET THEM ALL DONE SO THAT WE CAN START SEEING SOME PROGRESS RIGHT AWAY. [02:20:01] I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO ACTIVELY PURSUE THE BARS AND RESTAURANTS TO HAVE INPUT. I SAW IN HERE THAT THEY WERE REQUESTING INPUT ON THE ORDINANCE. THE FIRST READING TO TALK ABOUT THAT, I THINK THAT'S A VERY PROACTIVE THING TO DO TO GET THEM INVOLVED LET THEM BE HEARD. THEY KNOW THEIR BUSINESS ON THE INSIDE AND WOULD THEY NEED TO KNOW OUR BUSINESS ON THE OUTSIDE THAT MAKES SURE WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT. >> MADAM MAYOR? >> YES, PLEASE. >> I WOULD JUST POINT SEGUE FROM COMMISSIONERS SPRINGFIELD. THERE'S AN ACTION PLANS SYNOPSIS THAT STARTS ON PAGE 249 AND IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THERE THAT ARE PRETTY LOW HANGING FRUIT, LIKE THE RIDE-SHARE HUB THAT WE COULD REALLY START WORKING ON RIGHT AWAY IF WE ALL AGREED ON THAT. THEN SOME OF THEM MORE COMPLICATED OR FUNDING INTENSIVE CHANGES MIGHT TAKE MORE TIME, BUT WE HAVE SOME MECHANISM VERY SOON IF IT'S NOT TONIGHT, THEN PLAN FOR HOW WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS AND PRIORITIZE THEM WITH STAFF AND GET MOVING ON. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. >> I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION TOO. I KNOW THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE TAX WAS AN ISSUE, BUT A SALES TAX WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE FOR US TO PASS THROUGH THE CITY. >> WE'RE BACK AT THE SAME POINT. THOSE ARE CERTAIN COUNTY AND STATE TYPE REGULAR. WE HAVE VERY LIMITED ABILITY TO CREATE NEW TAXES OR BEVERAGE OR SALES AND SO ON. UNFORTUNATELY, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THOSE TOOLS. >> I DO HEAR YOUR QUESTION AND THAT YOU'RE WORRYING ABOUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND THIS, WHICH IS WELL, NOT WORRYING BUT CONCERNED AND AWARE AND OF COURSE, YES. BUT GENERALLY, THE WAY I SEE IT IS WE SET POLICY. WE SAY THIS IS THE DIRECTION. WE SAY WE ALL AGREE. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING. THEN THE STAFF'S JOB IS TO BRING BACK SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS AND DO THE IMPLEMENTATION, THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE SEEM TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT ON THE IDEA THAT WE NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT THE END OF THE NIGHT PUSH AND HOW TO GET PEOPLE HOME SAFELY AND WE LIVE WITH THE IDEA OF HOPEFULLY WE'RE LIVING OUR GREATEST RESOURCE AT NIGHT, WHICH IS OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT TIED UP UNTIL FOUR IN THE MORNING. HOPEFULLY, THEY'LL BE TIED UP TILL 2:30 INSTEAD OF FOUR OR 4:30 IF WE CAN PUT AN EASE ON THAT. I WOULD SAY, WELL, THIS IS A GREAT SUGGESTION AND THEN ALSO THE SECOND THING THAT I THINK WOULD BE IMPORTANT WOULD BE TO, AGAIN, THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, I DID TELL THEM MYSELF THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO TAKE ANY ACTION UNTIL THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. I SAID, "WE WON'T BE TAKING ANY ACTION WITHOUT YOUR INVOLVEMENT AND YOUR AWARENESS WILL MAKE AN EXTRA EFFORT TO REACH OUT TO YOU." THIS IS A INITIAL CONVERSATION AND I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD SECOND STEP IS TO EXPECT THAT I'D LOVE TO SEE AN ALLIANCE LIKE THE REPORT RECOMMENDS. HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT SURE, I HOLD A LOT OF HOPE FOR THAT. THEY DID AT ONE TIME HAVE ALMOST AN ALLIANCE FORMING, BUT THAT PETERED OUT. BUT I THINK IF THEY THINK THAT WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT MOVING FORWARD IN THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO KNOWING AFTER SEEING THE REPORT AND THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS LEGISLATION THAT'S PENDING, THEY MIGHT COME TOGETHER AND WORK WITH US OR WORK AGAINST US, WHATEVER WE WILL HEAR FROM THEM. BUT WE WILL BE HEARING FROM THEM. THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS, I THINK, THAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT AND THAT COULD GET US GOING. I DO THINK WE ARE, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. NO, YOU'RE NOT INTERRUPTING ME, GO AHEAD. [LAUGHTER] >> I HAD SOMETHING TOO ONCE. >> AGAIN, THE PURPOSE TONIGHT WAS TO PUT THIS BACK ON THE FOREFRONT. WHAT I'M GETTING IS CONSENSUS WITHIN THE COMMISSION TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE OUTLINED, THE LOW-HANGING FRUIT, START MOVING FORWARD IN THAT THERE ISN'T NECESSARILY A CRITICAL PATH ON HOW THESE FIT TOGETHER, JUST START MOVING FORWARD WITH RECOMMENDATIONS. WHEN WE'RE READY, WE'LL BRING EACH ELEMENT UP AND HOW WE CAN MANIFEST IT. >> IF I COULD ADD, THERE IS A TIMELINE AND THERE IS ONE ITEM THAT HAS A CRITICAL PATH. [02:25:06] UNFORTUNATELY, THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS A BILL PENDING THAT I GUESS WE CALL RESUSCITATES OR BRINGS BACK LAST YEAR'S BILL THAT WOULD CREATE A SCENARIO WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A FINANCIAL IMPACT STATEMENT FOR ANY ORDINANCE WE PASSED. THE BILL WOULD ALSO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE IMPACTED BY OUR NEW REGULATION AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUE THE CITY AND GET BUSINESS DAMAGES. THE DRAFT RIGHT NOW SAYS OCTOBER 1, 2023, SO REALISTICALLY THAT'S PROBABLY REALLY LESS THAN SIX MONTHS OF WORK IF YOU'RE THINKING OF GOING THE ROUTE OF REGULATION. IF WE'RE AT SOME POINT SOON GOING TO DECIDE MAYBE WE DON'T DO A REGULATORY SOLUTION AND WE TRY ALL THESE OTHER WONDERFUL IDEAS, THERE ISN'T A TON OF TIME, SO THAT'S THE THING I WANT EVERYONE TO BE AWARE. AS YOU'LL RECALL, THE BILL PASSED LAST YEAR. IT WAS ADOPTED BY THE LEGISLATURE AND IT WAS VETOED BY THE GOVERNOR. THEY'VE PRESENTED THAT BILL ONCE AGAIN, I'M ASSUMING THEY STILL HAVE THE VOTES, AND I'M ASSUMING WHATEVER ISSUE THE GOVERNOR HAD IS BEING ADDRESSED. WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. THE EFFECTIVE DATE PROPOSED IN THIS DRAFT THAT I SAW WAS OCTOBER 1. BASICALLY, ANY REGULATORY ORDINANCE THAT WE WOULD PASS AFTER OCTOBER 1 WOULD FALL WITHIN THIS NEW BILL. JUST KEEPING THAT IN MIND. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER. THERE IS TIME. YES. >> MAYOR. WE HAVE A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR THAT REGULATORY SOLUTION [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE HAVE THE FIRST READING. IT'S ALREADY PASSED OUR FIRST READING. [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT'S RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF WE COULD BRING THAT BACKUP NOT FOR RECONSIDERATION, BUT TO TAKE THE TEMPERATURE OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND SEE WHETHER WE WANT TO MOVE IT TO THE SECOND READING. >> I'M SORRY. CAN WE GET SOME INPUT ON THAT COMMUNITY QUICKLY ENOUGH ON THAT ORDINANCE, AND THEN, HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T THINK IT'S THAT DIFFICULT AND MAY BE ABLE TO SUPPORT US ON IT AND WE CAN GET IT DONE BEFORE OCTOBER 1. >> THE VICE MAYOR REALLY SET IT, OUR COMMITMENT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS TO ENGAGE IN RULE-MAKING, TO DO OUTREACH AND REFINE THE RULES AND GO THROUGH THAT, AND THAT'S A NORMAL PROCESS. I DON'T THINK IT WILL TAKE THAT LONG. >> I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY MORE UP TO SPEED ON IT THAN WE ARE [LAUGHTER]. BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S THE COURTESY, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, IS TO ENGAGE THEM AND WORK WITH THEM. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HOPE WOULD BE THE NEXT STEPS. THANK YOU, CHIEF. I APPRECIATE IT. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU ARE SO IMPORTANT IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS. I THINK WHAT WE COULD ASK YOU IS TO, AT OUR NEXT MEETING, COME BACK WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS OR STEPS MOVING FORWARD. ARE WE ALL AGREEING ON THAT? [OVERLAPPING] EVERYTHING [INAUDIBLE]. YES THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU ALL. IN SO MANY WAYS IT'S LIKE I HAD SAID THIS AND IT TOOK A HEADLINE I REMEMBER ONE TIME THAT THE HISTORY OF THE TOWN IS BEING OVERSHADOWED. THAT OUR GREATEST STRENGTH IN SO MANY WAYS IS THE BEAUTY OF OUR NATURAL COASTAL ENVIRONMENT, BUT ALSO OUR ARCHITECTURE AND OUR HISTORY. IT GETS REALLY ECLIPSED BY THE WEDDING AND THE PARTIES, AND THE BARS AND THE DRINKING AND THE EATING. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT ADJUSTED, BUT IT MAY JUST BE A PASSING THING, I DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT PART OF THE DISCUSSION. BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT IS ALWAYS ON THE TOP OF MY MIND. THANK YOU FOR [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING] >> IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT, ONE OF THE FIRST SENTENCES IN THIS REPORT IS DOWNTOWN IS A FINITE RESOURCE WITH A CARRYING CAPACITY THAT MAY [02:30:03] ALREADY BE MAXED OUT. THEY'D LEAD WITH THAT. >> YEAH, SO TRUE. I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE WE DO HAVE OUR DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS WHO'VE BEEN STICKING WITH US THROUGH THE WHOLE THING. THEY'RE HERE SITTING IN THE BACK AND I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THEM ACTUALLY FOR COMING AND BEING CHAMPIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE LIVING DOWNTOWN AND THEY DO SPEAK OUT AND THEY STAY ON THIS SUBJECT WITH THIS. I NOTICED THAT THEY HAVE PAID ATTENTION AND THEY'RE HERE. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU CITY MANAGER, MAYOR REAGAN. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEMS BY MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. YOU HAVE NOTHING? [14. ITEMS BY MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS] >> THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE IS ON THE COMMENT THAT THEY MADE ABOUT THE 271 WEST KING STREET. NOT ONLY IS THERE A CHURCH THERE, THERE WAS A ADJACENT OF STORES ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT AND LIVING CLOSE TO THAT AREA AND MY MOM'S HOUSE BEING 273. IT'S LIKE THE CAR SPEED UP WHEN THEY TRY TO SPEED UP THE BEAT CARS COMING OFF OF SOUTH WHITNEY, AND THEY LIKE PRACTICALLY RUN DOWN THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE COMING ACROSS. I THOUGHT AT SOME POINT THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BUYING WEST KING STREET, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED OR NOT. BUT THERE SEEMS LIKE A CROSSWALK WITH SOME SIGNS OF SLOWDOWN LIKE WE HAVE ALL DOWN HERE BY FLAGLER COLLEGE IS NOT A HARD REQUEST TO BE THROWING THAT ON THE COUNTY BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY. WE DO NOT NEED TO SEE THAT SOMEBODY GOT RAN DOWN AND THEN TAKE ACTION. THAT CHURCH IS GROWING. AGAIN, THAT THERE'S BUSINESSES AND I HAVE EVEN TRIED TO CROSS OVER TO GO TO TAKE MY MOTHER-IN-LAW. I PARKED ON MY MOTHER'S SIDE TO CROSS THE STREET AND I'M TELLING YOU THOSE CARS ARE VICIOUS COMING THROUGH THERE. YOU WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY WITNESS IT TO SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. I REMEMBER HAVING A BLACK HISTORY PROGRAM A FEW YEARS BACK. THIS WAS THE NANCY SHAVER WAS MARRIED AND SHE PARKED ACROSS THE STREET AND SHE WAS LIKE, H MY GOSH, HOW COME NOTHING'S EVER BEEN DONE WITH THIS? BUT UNTIL YOU WITNESSED IT AND ACTUALLY BECOME A VICTIM TO IT, YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE THE NEEDS THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND THAT IT REALLY DOES. >> WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THAT PUT THAT ON OUR TASK TRACKING LIST THEN. [OVERLAPPING] >> I WOULDN'T REALLY HOPE THAT [OVERLAPPING] WE HAVE A SIGN SHOP. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD TRY THAT. >> WELL, IT'S MORE COMPLICATED THAN A SIGN, BUT IT IS A PROCESS. LIKE I SAID, WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE AND IT DOES TAKE TIME AND PATIENCE JUST SO YOU KNOW, BUT I'M NOT SAYING IT WILL GO THROUGH, BUT I THINK THE BEST WAY TO START IS IT'S A POLICY WE WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE A CROSSWALK THERE. WE ALL AGREE, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE ONE AND NOW IT'S UP TO THE STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND BEGIN IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT, IF POSSIBLE. >> MAYOR, I THINK COMMISSIONER GARRIS WAS REALLY TONIGHT THE FIRST ONE THAT MADE AN EXPLICIT STATEMENT ON WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING. BUT I WILL JUST WANT TO MAKE IT JUST REALLY STATED EXPLICITLY. THE REASON THIS IS SUCH A CRITICAL MATTER, THE CHURCH PARKING LOT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF KING STREET, THE CHURCH IS ON THE SOUTH, AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S ALL THIS INTERACTION. PEOPLE JUST COME INTO CHURCH. THE OTHER THING ALSO IS THAT CANDIDLY, WHEN THE COUNTY REBUILT KING STREET, THEY DESIGNED IT IN A WAY TO SPEED UP TRAFFIC. >> THEY SURE DID. >> THERE USED TO BE ON STREET PARALLEL PARKING AND TRAFFIC COMING. JUST FOR ANYONE WHO'S NEVER BEEN TO THE CHURCH, I WOULD ECHO, I SHOULD SAY WHAT COMMISSIONER GARRIS SAID ABOUT STOPPING, READING THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH AND VISITING THE CHURCH AND SEEING THAT CONFIGURATION. IT'S VERY DISCONCERTING WHEN YOU PARK AND YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO WALK ACROSS TO THE CHURCH THROUGH THE TRAFFIC. >> THANK YOU. >> I WILL REMIND EVERYBODY THAT I HAD MY FIRST OFFICIAL NON MEETING DUTY ON WEDNESDAY AT 11 O'CLOCK FOR THE MENENDEZ WREATH. I WANT TO REMIND THE PUBLIC TO COME AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. >> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A FEW THINGS, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. ONE IS THAT IF YOU CAN PUT A CROSSWALK FOR THE DOLLAR STORE, I THINK WE CAN PUT ONE FOR THE CHURCH, [02:35:02] AND THERE IS A CROSSWALK AT THE DOLLAR STORE. >> SURE THERE'S WITH LIGHT FLASHING AND ALL. >> EXACTLY. THE SECOND THING IS THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO TO THE FORT MOSELEY JAZZ AND BLUES FESTIVAL. SEVERAL OF US HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT. IT'S A GREAT CAUSE. IT'S A GREAT VENUE AND IT'S GREAT MUSICIANS, AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE SUPPORTING THAT. YOU'RE MISSING OUT IF YOU'RE NOT GOING, IT'S GREAT. IT'S FUNNY THING HAPPENED LAST WEEK. I HAVE AN OLD DOG AND HE DOESN'T LIKE OUTDOOR NOISE, HE GETS ANXIOUS. HE'S COWERING IN THE CORNER. I'M GETTING READY FOR WORK AND HE'S COWERING I'M LIKE, WHAT IS ALL THAT NOISE GOING ON OUTSIDE THE HOUSE? WELL, THERE'S THE STREET SWEEPER AND THEN THERE'S THE VACUUM PUMP TRUCK AND THEY'RE CONVERGING TOGETHER AND I THOUGHT, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS IS THE CITY STAFF BEING PROACTIVE. GET THE LEAVES OFF THE STREETS, VACUUM THE STORM DRAINS, AND YOU'VE SOLVED THE PROBLEM. YOU'VE GOTTEN AHEAD OF A PROBLEM, AND I LOVE SEEING THAT NOW. MY DOG DIDN'T LOVE IT. BUT I LOVE SEEING THAT THE CITY STAFF ARE BEING PROACTIVE IN WAYS THAT PEOPLE DON'T EVER EVEN NOTICE, AND THAT COULD HELP PREVENT FLOODING LIKE THE RECENT RAINS THAT WE HAD, OUR STREET WAS NOT FLOODED, ODDLY ENOUGH. SO KUDOS TO THE CITY AND I CAN TOLERATE THE NOISE. LASTLY, I HAVE A PET PEEVE AND THAT'S THE ZORA NEALE HURSTON PARK THAT IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF US1 AND KING STREET. FIRST OF ALL, IT DOESN'T DO JUSTICE TO HER NAME THE WAY IT LOOKS RIGHT NOW, IT'S BEING USED AS A CAMPGROUND SOMETIMES BY SOME OF OUR RESIDENT HOMELESS FOLKS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DO NEED SHELTER, BUT I THINK WE COULD REALLY PAY SOME BETTER ATTENTION TO THE LANDSCAPING TO DISCOURAGE THAT SORT OF BEHAVIOR AND TO WELCOME PEOPLE INTO OUR CITY AND THE WAY THAT THEY SHOULD BE AND TO DO JUSTICE TO HER NAME. SHE WAS AN AMAZING WRITER AND AN AMAZING WOMAN. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU. I HAD ALSO BEEN APPROACHED ON THE ZORA NEALE HURSTON PARK, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN THE BUDGET TIME IF WE WANT TO DO UPGRADE THERE. BECAUSE IT'S JUST BEEN ADDED TO HERE AND THERE OVER TIME AND NEVER REALLY HAD A COMPREHENSIVE DO-OVER, SO TO SPEAK. SO THANK YOU. THE ONLY THING THAT I HAD TO MENTION WAS I DO LIKE THE WAY THAT THE MEETING TASKS TRACKING LIST IS WORKING AND I REALLY APPRECIATE STAFF DOING THAT. I NOTICED THAT WE KNOCKED OFF FOUR ITEMS TONIGHT, WHICH WAS REALLY NICE, AND IT CERTAINLY DOES HELP ME ORIENT ON WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE NEED TO GO. BUT UNLESS ANYONE ELSE HAS MORE TO ADD, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.