[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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IS REVEREND MATT MARINO IN THE ROOM? OKAY THEN. I HAVE ASKED OFFICER SAMPSON TO COME AND GIVE US THE INVOCATION, IF YOU WILL PLEASE STAND, AND AFTER THE INVOCATION, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER JOHN VALDES.
LET US PRAY. DEAR LORD, THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER GORGEOUS DAY IN ST AUGUSTINE, LORD.
NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS, BUT ALL THE VISITORS THAT COME HERE, GOD, ENJOY SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PLACE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US.
LORD I PRAY FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TONIGHT AND ALL THEIR AGENDA THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH GOD, THAT THEY HAVE CLARITY OF MIND GOD, THAT THEY'RE PASSING THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE OUR CITY BETTER, BRIGHTER, AND HAVE A GREAT FUTURE.
LORD WE JUST ASK FOR TRAVEL MERCIES AT THE END OF OUR MEETING, GOD, AS WE GO OUR SEPARATE WAYS AND ENJOY OUR FAMILIES, LORD.
WELL, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY MODIFICATIONS OF THE REGULAR AGENDA?
[2. ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS]
I DO NOT. STAFF DO YOU HAVE? I DO NOT. THANK YOU.ALL RIGHT. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO--? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SO WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION TONIGHT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE OUR CITY ARCHEOLOGIST
[3.A. Proclamation 2022-09: Proclaiming the month of March 2022 as Archaeology Month. (N. Sikes-Kline, Commissioner)]
ANDREA WHITE AND HER ILLUSTRIOUS VOLUNTEERS TO COME FORWARD BECAUSE WE WILL READ THEM IN THE FRONT. OH, BOY.THIS IS THE MOST PEOPLE WE'VE EVER OH, THANK YOU.
LET'S ALL SQUEEZE IN TOGETHER, AND WE'LL DO A, IF YOU ALL DON'T MIND, WE'LL DO A PICTURE AFTERWARDS IF YOU'D LIKE TO STAND.
ALL RIGHT. ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY.
YES. SO THIS IS ABOUT HALF OF THE VOLUNTEERS, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THEN.
WHEREAS THE MONTH OF MARCH HAS BEEN DESIGNATED FLORIDA ARCHEOLOGY MONTH BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN RECOGNITION OF ARCHEOLOGY'S IMPORTANCE IN UNDERSTANDING AND PRESERVING THE STATE'S CULTURAL RESOURCES, AS WELL AS PROMOTING PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THOSE RESOURCES.
AND WHEREAS, PEOPLE OF DIVERSE RACES AND ETHNICITIES HAVE MADE FLORIDA THEIR HOME FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND LEFT BEHIND ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE OF THEIR PRESENCE.
AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE HAS RECOGNIZED THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS ARCHEOLOGICAL HERITAGE AND HAS ENDEAVORED TO DOCUMENT THE REMAINS OF BOTH THE PREHISTORIC AND HISTORICAL PAST BY ESTABLISHING AN ARCHEOLOGICAL ORDINANCE AND PROGRAM, THEREBY UNDERSCORING THE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT HERITAGE.
WHEREAS, 2020 MARKS THE 35TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE CITY'S ARCHEOLOGY PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, ONE OF THE FIRST ENACTED IN THE COUNTRY AND THROUGH ITS IMPLEMENTATION, HAS GAINED IMMEASURABLE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY'S PAST AND OF THOSE MISSING OR UNDERREPRESENTED IN THE HISTORICAL RECORD.
AND. WHEREAS, THE SAINT AUGUSTINE ARCHEOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION, FORMED IN PART TO SUPPORT COMMUNITY ARCHEOLOGY AND THE PASSAGE OF THE ARCHEOLOGICAL ORDINANCE, RECENTLY CELEBRATED THEIR 35TH ANNIVERSARY, AND MANY OF ITS MEMBERS HAVE DONATED THEIR TIME IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY'S ARCHEOLOGY PROGRAM.
NOW, THEREFORE, THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MARCH 2022 AS ARCHEOLOGY MONTH IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND ENCOURAGES CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF PRESERVING THE PAST BEFORE IT IS LOST AND SUPPORT ARCHEOLOGICAL EFFORTS TO PRESERVE ST AUGUSTINE'S UNIQUE CULTURAL HERITAGE.
I'M PRESENTING THIS TO OUR CITY ARCHEOLOGIST DR.
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YOU'RE WELCOME. THANKS.WE JUST WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY.
I'M THE CITY ARCHEOLOGIST, DR.
ANDREA WHITE, AND THIS IS KATHERINE SIMS, ONE OF OUR OTHER PROFESSIONAL ARCHEOLOGISTS.
TOGETHER, WE ARE CITY EMPLOYEES THAT WORK FOR THE ARCHEOLOGY PROGRAM, BUT WE CANNOT HAVE A PROGRAM WITHOUT OUR WONDERFUL ARCHEOLOGY VOLUNTEERS.
AND THIS IS ONLY ABOUT HALF OF THEM, AND THEY DONATE AN IMMEASURABLE NUMBER OF HOURS EVERY YEAR. I THINK THIS YEAR WAS OVER 1500 HOURS.
SO [APPLAUSE] IT'S QUITE A LARGE NUMBER.
SOME YEARS WE'VE HAD OVER 4000 HOURS.
SO I WOULD SAY IN THE 35 YEARS THAT THE CITY HAS HAD AN ARCHEOLOGY PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, IT'S BEEN WELL OVER A HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HOURS THAT HAVE BEEN DONATED TO HELP PRESERVE THE ARCHEOLOGY AND THE HERITAGE OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE TIME THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONATED TO THE CITY AND TO THE PRESERVATION OF OUR HERITAGE.
YAY! YAY! [APPLAUSE] NOW LET'S ALL SQUEEZE TOGETHER AND TAKE A LOVELY .
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? CITY CLERK?
[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS OR FOR AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING]
WE ARE NOW IN PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR GENERAL, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THE AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING.AND FIRST, WE HAVE MS. MARTHA MICKLER.
I'M MARTHA MICKLER, ADDRESS 30 SPANISH STREET.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO THANK THE CITY COMMISSION FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN MANY OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS, AND ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM MANY OF US OVER THE YEARS REGARDING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR CITY.
I ADDRESS MY CONCERNS DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS AT ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS EARLY IN 2019, AND I KNOW OTHERS HAVE SHARED THEIR CONCERNS WITH YOU AND YOU HAVE TAKEN ACTION TO ADDRESS THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
A VERY SPECIAL THANKS TO BOTH VICE MAYOR NANCY SIKES-KLINE AND BARRY FOX FOR BEING PROACTIVE LEADERS.
THEY BEGAN RESEARCHING SOLUTIONS, AND THEN FOUND A GROUP, AND THE COMMISSION ESTABLISHED A CONTRACT WITH THE RESPONSIBLE HOSPITALITY INSTITUTE TO ASSESS SAINT AUGUSTINE AND ITS FUTURE AS A SOCIABLE CITY.
NOW, AS YOU KNOW, STAFF FROM THE RESPONSIBLE HOSPITALITY INSTITUTE TRAINED A LOCAL TRANSFORMATION TEAM OF 12 INDIVIDUALS FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE.
THEY HAVE SERVED AS PROJECT LEADERS IN SIX DIFFERENT AREAS.
THESE AREAS INCLUDE MOBILITY, PUBLIC SAFETY, SOCIAL VENUE, QUALITY OF LIFE, VENUE SAFETY AND PUBLIC SPACE.
DURING THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS, ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN HELD WITH OVER 60 PLUS PERSONS INTERESTED IN THE FUTURE OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.
I WAS FORTUNATE TO BE ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO PARTICIPATE AND WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN TWO DIFFERENT ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSIONS.
I MUST SAY DISCUSSIONS WERE LIVELY, HONEST, AND VERY INTERESTING.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN OUR COMMUNITY THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS OUR VIEWS.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE FOURTH AND FINAL PHASE OF THIS PROJECT WHEN THE RESULTS ARE PRESENTED TO YOU.
AS I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, THIS REPORT WILL SERVE AS A BLUEPRINT TO IMPLEMENT AN ACTION
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PLAN FOR OUR CITY.I AM SURE RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS AND INSTITUTIONS IN OUR CITY ARE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS, OUR VISITORS, OUR BUSINESSES, OUR EMPLOYEES AND STUDENTS CAN LIVE AND WORK TOGETHER IN A VERY SAFE AND VIBRANT CITY.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
NEXT WE HAVE MS. B.J. KALAIDI.
OH. MS. KALAIDI, DID YOU WANT TO BE LAST? DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? WE HAVE A SPEAKER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM, MS. GIBER? MS. KALAIDI LIKES TO GO LAST.
THANK YOU. CAN YOU GIVE ME A SECOND TO GET SORTED? [INAUDIBLE] YOU'RE TIME. THANK YOU.
I WAS TOLD A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I GOT A LIST OF THE SHORT TERM RENTALS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, AND I WAS TOLD THAT HOST COMPLIANCE IS SUPPOSED TO BE REGISTERING AND DATA MINING ALL OF THESE STRS.
AND I WALK AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I SEE THAT THERE'S MORE PLACES THAN THAT'S ON THE LIST. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, BECAUSE IF WE'RE PAYING THEM FOR DATA MINING, THEY'RE REALLY NOT DOING A GOOD JOB BY US.
AND I LOOKED AND SAW ON THE AGENDA TODAY THAT WE HAVE A $55,000 DEFICIT.
AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES AND THAT WOULD BE CURED IF HOST COMPLIANCE WAS DOING A BETTER JOB OF DATA MINING, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT RENTAL PLACES.
AND, OF COURSE, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID LAST TIME ABOUT THE STOP SIGN ON RIBERIA AND THE ADDED POLICE PRESENCE.
SO WE'D LIKE TO GET SOME IDEAS TO WHEN THESE THINGS WILL TRANSPIRE, AND I KNOW IT'S ONLY TWO WEEKS AGO, BUT IT'D BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO TELL MY NEIGHBORS WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT AND WHEN. AND THE OTHER THING THAT, I GUESS, WAS CONCERNING TO ME IS THE TOWN AND GOWN.
AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT ALL OF THAT'S ABOUT, I MEAN, I WENT TO COLLEGE IN A COLLEGE TOWN AND WE NEVER HAD THAT KIND OF THING.
NOT THAT I WENT TO A CITY MEETING.
BUT I KNOW THERE'S BEEN ISSUES WITH COLLEGE STUDENTS HERE, AND DISCIPLINARY ACTION HAS NEVER BEEN TAKEN.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S COMMUNITY SERVICE OR SOME KIND OF GIVE BACK WHERE THESE STUDENTS LEARN YOU CAN'T DESTROY PUBLIC PROPERTY OR PRIVATE PROPERTY.
MISS KALAIDI . B.J. KALAIDI, WEST CITY OF ST AUGUSTINE.
MR. FLANAGAN, 15 ROHDE AVENUE.
LET ME THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPPOSITION TO PARTIAL DEMOLITION AT 23 ROHDE AVENUE.
AS YOU STATED, QUOTE, THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE IS LOSING ITS UNIQUE CHARACTER A LITTLE
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PIECE AT A TIME, END QUOTE.WHEN A POLITICIAN STATES, ONE IS FORTUNATE TO LIVE HERE, LET ME ENCOURAGE THE POLITICIAN TO READ ALL OF THE CODE VIOLATIONS WHICH HAVE BEEN REDEFINED AS SERVICE REQUESTS.
BEFORE VOTERS, TAXPAYERS AND THE CITY OF ST AUGUSTINE AND ST JOHN'S COUNTY, VOTE FOR THE $0.01 SALES TAX, AS MOST BUREAUCRATS WILL DO ON NOVEMBER 8, 2022, INVESTIGATE HOW OUR CITY REVENUES HAVE BEEN AND ARE BEING SPENT ON PERKS SUCH AS ONE PAY WATER BILLS OF SOME CITY EMPLOYEES, TWO PAY FOR A CITY CAR FOR MR. REGAN TO DRIVE, THREE $20,000 RAISES, FOUR WILL PAY FOR CITY POLICE OFFICERS WHO DO NOT LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS OF THE SAINT AUGUSTINE TO TAKE OUR VEHICLES HOME, THEY SHOULD PAY FOR THE GAS OR COLLECT PILOTS PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES FROM THE 501 C3 SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET TO PAY FOR THE GAS.
REMEMBER THIS SCHOOL AND ALL 501 C3 CAUSED THE CITY TO LOSE OVER $683 MILLION.
ON MARCH 3RD, 2022, AT [INAUDIBLE] MEETING THAT MS. MICKLER JUST REFERRED TO, MR. REGAN STATED QUOTE, WE HAVE MORE MONEY THAN WE KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH, END QUOTE.
IF THIS STATEMENT IS TRUE AND THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE RECEIVES $3 MILLION IF THE $0.01 SALES TAX PASSES ON NOVEMBER 8, 2022, PLEASE USE IT TO REPAVE ALL ROADS IN WEST CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FROM US 1 WEST TO WHITNEY STREET NEGLECTED AREA OF TOWN AND THE CITY LIMITS.
DISRESPECT HAS DESTROYED LIVABILITY IN CITY LIMITS OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE KNOWS THIS AND HAS EVER PAID ATTENTION TO IT, BUT THE BIG GOLF EVENT, THE TPC, IS A 501 C3 LOCATED IN SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY, AND WHEN I HEAR THINGS ON THE RADIO, THEY DON'T EVEN TELL US THAT IT'S IN SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY AND TAXES AND REVENUE IS GOING FOR THAT.
ALSO, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT DUVAL COUNTY IS NOT THE ONE PUTTING ON THAT EVENT.
SO I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THIS.
THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY, OF COURSE THEY GIVE IT BACK, BUT THAT'S ALL A WRITE OFF.
SO WE OUGHT TO BE GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE TAXES THAT ARE PUTTING TOWARDS THAT EVENT AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THE CREDIT.
AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ADVERTISING SAINT JOHN'S COUNTY AND MAKING IT CLEAR WHO IS PUTTING THAT EVENT ON.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS KALAIDI.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[5. CONSENT AGENDA]
MS. BREIDENSTEIN.TONIGHT'S TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA FOR MARCH 14, 2022, CONSISTS OF THE FOLLOWING.
ITEMS CA.1, PREVIEW OF UPCOMING COMMISSION MEETINGS.
ITEM CA.2, THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCES ARE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR SECOND READING ON MARCH 28, 2022: ORDINANCE 2022-07.
ITEM CA.3, REMINDER OF UPCOMING MEETINGS, MARCH 28, 2022 3:00 PM SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 28, 2022 5:00 PM REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 11, 2022 5:00 PM REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.
ITEM CA.4, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PRIOR COMMISSION MEETINGS: FEBRUARY 14, 2022 REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING. ITEM CA.5, RELEASES OF LIEN FOR UNIT CONNECTION FEE MORTGAGES: NONE.
ITEM CA.6, PROPOSED PROCLAMATIONS, CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION/RECOGNITION, COMMISSION APPROVAL, REQUIRED TO BE READ AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING: NONE.
ITEM CA.7, NOTIFICATION OF PROCLAMATION/CERTIFICATES OF RECOGNITION ISSUED: NONE.
ITEM CA.8, APPROVAL OF MADEIRA AT ST AUGUSTINE PHASE 1C PLAT.
ITEM CA.9, APPROVAL REGARDING THE FEES RECEIVED FOR AND THE COST OF THE VACATION RENTAL PROGRAM. ITEM CA.10, INVOICE FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BY CAVENDISH PARTNERS, P.A.
IN THE SMITH VERSUS CITY MATTER FOR $3,600.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE MEMO FOR ITEM CA.9 IN YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.
THANK YOU. THIS MEMO WAS TO JOHN REGAN, CITY MANAGER, MARCH 3RD, 2020 TO FROM AMY MCCLURE SKINNER DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND BUILDING.
CITY COMMISSION UPDATE REGARDING SHORT TERM RENTAL PROGRAM.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AT THE FEBRUARY 28TH, 2022 CITY COMMISSION MEETING, A CITIZEN ASKED FOR AN UPDATE OF THE CITY'S SHORT TERM RENTAL PROGRAM, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO
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REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.PLEASE SEE BELOW AND ATTACHED FOR A SUMMARY.
CITY STAFF REVIEWED FISCAL YEAR 2021, WHICH IS THE TIME FRAME BETWEEN OCTOBER 1ST, 2020 TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021, REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES, AND DETERMINED THAT THE TOTAL REVENUE GENERATED BY SHORT TERM RENTALS WAS $202,716.92.
TOTAL EXPENSES RELATED TO THIS PROGRAM WAS $258,168.48.
BASED ON THESE NUMBERS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021, THERE WAS A NEGATIVE DIFFERENCE OF $55,451.56. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION RELATED TO THE BUDGET ANALYSIS FOR THIS PROGRAM IS ATTACHED. PLEASE PLACE THIS ITEM ON THE MARCH 14, 2022 CITY COMMISSION CONSENT AGENDA FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT MYSELF, OR MEREDITH BREIDENSTEIN, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
FROM AMY MCCLURE SKINNER, DIRECTOR, PLANNING AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU. I ASK JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I KNOW IT'S KIND OF OUT OF THE ORDINARY TO HAVE A MEMO READ, BUT I JUST ASKED THAT TO BE READ FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC SINCE IT WAS ORIGINATED AS A PUBLIC REQUEST.
SO DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? MOVED.
ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SO NEXT UP, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY GENERAL PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.
SO WE'LL GO ON TO 7A, WHICH IS GENERAL PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS AND 7B IS AN UPDATE FROM THE
[7.B. An update from the Town and Gown Advisory Committee of Flagler College will be presented by Committee Chair, Tom Day. (M. Wissel, Director Communications)]
TOWN AND GOWN ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF FLAGLER COLLEGE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY TOM DAY.AND THIS IS AN [INAUDIBLE] WILL BE PRESENTED BY--.
MR. DAY WILL BE PRESENTED BY MS. WISSEL, OUR DIRECTORS OF COMMUNICATIONS.
THAT WAS A MOUTHFUL. THAT'S OKAY.
GOOD EVENING, VICE MAYOR COMMISSIONERS.
MELISSA WISSEL, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.
AS THE CITY LIAISON ON THE TOWN AND GOWN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. TOM DAY, AS VICE MAYOR SAID.
HE IS THE CHAIR OF THE TOWN AND GOWN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND MR. DAY IS HERE THIS EVENING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON OUR COMMITTEE.
A LOT OF INTRODUCING. THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. DAY. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, CITY STAFF AND ESTEEMED RESIDENTS OF THIS WONDERFUL CITY.
I'M HERE TODAY TO REPORT TO YOU ON WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH YOUR TOWN AND GOWN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH HAS BEEN IN FORCE SINCE 2014-15 AND CONTINUES TO THRIVE AND ENJOY A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH BOTH THE CITY AND THE COLLEGE.
OKAY. WHY DO WE HAVE A TOWN AND GOWN COMMITTEE? THE LADY BEFORE ME, SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT THE TOWN AND GOWN COMMITTEE HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED TO SERVE AS A CHANNEL FOR REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COLLEGE AND COMMUNITY TO DISCUSS RELEVANT ISSUES THAT IMPACT EACH TO INCLUDE BUT NOT BE LIMITED TO STUDENT BEHAVIOR, MOBILITY, TRANSPARENCY OF GROWTH AND HOUSING.
THIS GOES BACK TO 2014 AND 15, AND YOU MIGHT WONDER WHY WE EVEN WENT TO THE TROUBLE OF ESTABLISHING A COMMITTEE, BUT THE CITY REACTED TO A SITUATION THAT WAS BOTHERING THEM AND BOTHERING THE COLLEGE, AND AT THE TIME, RESIDENTS IN THE CITY FELT THEY HAD NO VISIBILITY TO PLAN COLLEGE GROWTH AND WHERE THAT GROWTH MIGHT TAKE PLACE.
THIS WAS PARTICULARLY ACUTE IN THE MODEL LAND COMPANY AND IN LINCOLNVILLE.
THERE WAS TALK AT THE TIME THAT THE CAMPUS WOULD EXTEND FROM THE SAN SEBASTIAN RIVER TO CORDOVA STREET AND INCLUDE LARGE PORTIONS OF LINCOLNVILLE.
ALSO, AT THE SAME TIME, COLLEGE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES WERE ON THE RISE AND THE GROUP OF EXECUTIVES GOT TOGETHER AND SAID, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
AND THE TASK FORCE MET IN 2014 AND 15 AND IN 2015 PRESENTED 25 RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT THEY FELT THAT WOULD HELP THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS. SINCE THAT TIME, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DECIDED WAS THEY SHOULD FORM A COMMITTEE TO BE CALLED THE TOWN AND GOWN COMMITTEE, AND IT WOULD BE IN PERPETUATE ITSELF OVER THE YEARS
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BY ELECTING NEW OFFICIALS AND APPOINTING NEW MEMBERS.THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, AS IT STANDS TODAY ARE MELISSA WAS JUST UP.
SHE'S THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE CITY.
LAURA STEPHENSON DUMAS IS ON THE COMMITTEE.
SHE IS THE VICE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF OF STAFF FOR THE COLLEGE.
AND BETH SWEENEY IS THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS AND GOVERNMENT RELATIONS FOR THE COLLEGE. AND RACHEL HILL, WHO IS MY FAVORITE MEMBER, IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE STUDENT BODY. AND SHE IS A VERY BRIGHT YOUNG LADY THAT OFFERED ME SOME HELP WHEN I PUT THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER OF THE THINGS WHAT THE STUDENTS WANTED TO HEAR OR AT LEAST LEARN ABOUT.
AS FAR AS RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED, THEY WERE BROKEN DOWN INTO CATEGORIES OF BUSINESS AND RESIDENCY, SO EACH CATEGORY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTED.
AT THIS TIME, THE RESIDENTS INCLUDE IRENE ARRIOLA OF FULLERWOOD, SHE REPRESENTS BUSINESS IN TERMS OF REAL ESTATE.
KAREN VALOCHOVIC OF THE MODEL LAND COMPANY, ALSO REAL ESTATE AGENT.
MARTHA MICKLER, SHE'S A DOWNTOWN RESIDENT AND SHE JUST SPOKE TO YOU AND SHE'S VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THE CITY AND ITS ISSUES.
MARSHA CHANCE, WHO IS HERE BEHIND ME, FROM DAVIS SHORES AND MYSELF, I LIVE OVER ON SARAGOSSA STREET, AS A MATTER OF FACT.
ANYWAY, WE HAVE 12 MEMBERS, IN 17 WE HAD 11.
WE DECIDED TO ADD A NEW INDIVIDUAL TO THE COMMITTEE, AND THAT HAPPENS TO BE A MEMBER OF THE POLICE FORCE.
NOW, YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF, OR IF YOU ARE, THERE ARE TWO POLICEMEN THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY ASSIGNED TO THE COLLEGE AND PAID FOR BY THE COLLEGE, BUT THEY ARE PART OF THE SAINT AUGUSTINE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY REPORT AND ARE TRAINED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. BUT GARY JOHNSON IS AN OFFICER WHO CREATIVELY GOT TOGETHER WITH THE COLLEGE AND THE STUDENTS AND CREATED SOMETHING CALLED COFFEE WITH A COP.
AND HE SETS UP A TABLE OVER IN THE STUDENT HALL, THE, NOT THE LIBRARY, BUT THE HALL DOWN ON KING STREET, AND HE WILL SIT THERE.
HE MEETS ABOUT ONCE A MONTH, AND PEOPLE CAN COME UP TO HIM AND TALK TO HIM ABOUT ANYTHING. AND IT WAS THERE THAT I LEARNED THAT STUDENTS ACTUALLY HAD COMPLAINTS ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON AND ANYTHING FROM STOLEN BIKES TO I GOT THE COLD SHOULDER SOMEWHERE DOWNTOWN AND JUST HE IS THE PERSON THAT HAS PROBABLY CREATED A VERY GOOD IMAGE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THE COLLEGE.
THEY DON'T LOOK AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NOW AS THE ENEMY.
THEY LOOK THEM AS SOMEBODY THAT CAN HELP THEM.
IF THEY'RE SMART, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO AND THEY DO.
ANYWAY, SO WE HAVE 12 PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE, AND I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THE YOUNG LADY THAT I JUST MENTIONED EARLIER, SHE'S ON A COMMITTEE ALSO.
IN 2017, THE ISSUES WERE QUITE LEGION.
OFF CAMPUS, HOUSING WAS AN ISSUE.
SHORT TERM RENTALS WERE AN ISSUE AND NOT THE ONES THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH TODAY.
BUT IT WAS THE FACT THAT THE STUDENTS WERE BEING RENTED BUILDINGS THAT WERE NOT NECESSARILY SAFE.
THERE WERE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS AT THAT TIME.
WE FELT THAT THE COLLEGE AND THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES COULD GET TOGETHER MORE OFTEN ON A FORMAL BASIS.
I THINK ALL OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THE PARKING FIGHTS THAT WENT ON BACK IN 2017. RESIDENT BEHAVIOR.
NOT EVERYBODY IS HAPPY TO HAVE A SCHOOL IN THEIR BACKYARD AND SOME OF THEM SHOW IT IN AGGRESSIVE WAYS.
AND THEN TRANSPARENCY OF GROWTH WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ISSUE.
WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD THE NEXT BUILDING AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IN IT? SO ALL OF THOSE ISSUES WERE PUT TOGETHER IN THESE 26 RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND WHILE I'M NOT GOING TO SHARE ALL SORTS OF FACTS AND FIGURES WITH YOU, I WILL SAY THAT IT'S MY FEELING AND THE PEOPLE I HAVE TALKED TO IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE COLLEGE AND THE CITY.
AND I DON'T GET A LOT OF BAD FEEDBACK.
I GET THERE ARE ISSUES, BUT THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE ISSUES.
BUT FROM WHAT IT WAS IN 2015 TO NOW HAS BEEN--.
THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER ARE COLLEGE AND RESIDENCE MEETINGS SINCE 2017.
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I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT DR.JOYNER AND MR. DELANEY HAVE ALL OFFERED THEIR TIME AND THEIR PRESENCE AT MEETINGS ANYWHERE FROM THE ABARE DORMS TO MARKLAND HOUSE.
AND THERE WAS ONE EXTRAORDINARY TIME WHEN DR.
ABARE INVITED US OVER TO MARKLAND HOUSE.
THE PEOPLE FROM MODEL LAND COMPANY TO SEE WHAT THE MALAGA DORMS WERE GOING TO LOOK LIKE, AND I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR ONE OF THE ONE OF THE OFFICIALS AT THE COLLEGE WAS FLATTERED-- FLATTENED EXCUSE ME, WHEN THE COLLEGE SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU GO HIGHER? YOU KNOW, MORE THAN 30 FEET.
USE IT. THAT WAS SHOCKING TO ME AT THE TIME, BUT NOW IT'S STANDARD BEHAVIOR.
WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF AN ADVANCE WARNING OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEY GO TO GREAT LENGTHS, THE COLLEGE GOES TO GREAT LENGTHS TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY NEED A BUILDING AND WHAT'S GOING TO GO IN IT. THE COLLEGE POPULATION HAS GROWN CONSIDERABLY.
I CAN REMEMBER RESEARCHING AT THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, ALL OF THE SPEECHES OF DR.
ABARE AND RECOUNTING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, THE POPULATION OF THE COLLEGE.
AND AT THAT TIME I THINK IT WAS 1500 AND IT GREW TO 1700 AND HIS RESPONSE AT THE TIME, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY, IS THEY DIDN'T KNOW FROM YEAR TO YEAR WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO GET BECAUSE PEOPLE COME AND GO AND THEN PEOPLE SAY, I'M GOING TO SIGN UP AND ENROLL, AND THEN THEY DON'T. SO BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE STANDING AT 2400.
AND THE LAST CONVERSATION IS THAT THAT 2400 IS ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN HANDLE, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GO FURTHER AT THIS TIME.
NOW WE CAN DISCUSS THAT TO LENGTH, BUT THAT'S WHERE IT IS AND EXPECT THAT TO STAY.
AND THE NEW INITIATIVE ON THE NEW SCHOOLING THAT WAS ANNOUNCED IN THE PAPER YESTERDAY WILL INCORPORATE ITSELF INTO THE 2400.
AND THERE WILL BE, ACCORDING TO THE SCHOOL, NO NEW BUILDING THAT WILL GO ALONG WITH THIS.
IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE [INAUDIBLE].
THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE, I MENTIONED COFFEE WITH A COP, I THINK THAT'S TERRIFIC.
THE COLLEGE COMES THROUGH TO MODAL LAND COMPANY EVERY CHRISTMAS AND SINGS CHRISTMAS CAROLS. THEY INVITE US TO MARKLAND HOUSE.
THEY LET US USE THAT AND HAVE THE HIGH SCHOOL CHOIR OVER THERE.
SO THE COLLEGE IS MAKING EVERY EFFORT, AS IS [INAUDIBLE] COLLEGE, AS THE RESIDENTS ARE MAKING THEIR EFFORT.
BUT THERE WILL STILL BE ISSUES AND SO THERE ARE MEANS TO ADDRESS THOSE.
SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS GOING ON, ADVANCED LEARNING.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IF YOU'VE GRADUATED FROM SCHOOL, YOU CAN COME BACK TO SCHOOL AND LEARN. THAT'S A VERY GOOD PROGRAM THAT'S RUN BY THE SCHOOL.
WE JOINED THE INTERNATIONAL TOWN AND GOWN ASSOCIATION.
SO WE'RE ALL FLYING TO PARIS TOMORROW FOR THE MEETING [LAUGHTER].
WE INTEND TO GET INVOLVED BECAUSE THERE ARE ALWAYS BETTER IDEAS THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT AND WE CAN OFFER THEM OUR IDEAS.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE THING THAT CAME OUT OF THOSE 2025, THE 25 RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO FORM A TOWN AND GOWN COMMITTEE THAT WILL PERPETUATE ITSELF AND ACT AS A CONDUIT OF INFORMATION BETWEEN THE COLLEGE AND THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS.
WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SERVE.
AND I THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT ARE HERE TODAY FOR THEIR EFFORTS, AND WE THANK THE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMISSION FOR PUTTING UP WITH US.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YEAH. I'D LIKE TO JUMP IN HERE AND THANK [INAUDIBLE] COMMITTEE, AND TOM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME AND THE ENERGY BECAUSE FLAGLER IS THE KEYSTONE TO THE CITY IN SO MANY WAYS. IT'S THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, AS WE USED TO CALL IT.
AND THE ELEPHANT HAS BEEN QUIET LATELY, AND I THINK IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH OPEN COMMUNICATION THAT'S OCCURRED.
I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY QUIETER NECESSARILY, I JUST THINK WE'RE TALKING MORE, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
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SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE NEW COLLEGE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED THAT WE READ ABOUT IN THE PAPER, YOU SAID THAT THE ENROLLMENT WOULD BE INTEGRATED, SO THAT DOESN'T MOVE THE NEEDLE ABOVE 2400? I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR.WELL, I THINK 2400 IS A FLEXIBLE NUMBER TO THE DOWNSIDE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE UPSIDE, BUT I HAVE BEEN TOLD ANECDOTALLY THAT THAT'S WHERE THE 2400 IS A NUMBER THAT THEY WANT TO STICK WITH.
BUT DOES THIS NEW COLLEGE THAT THEY WANT TO CREATE, DOES THAT ADD TO THE ENROLLMENT? NO, IT DOES NOT.
IT IS GOING TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE 2400.
IT'S GOING TO BE ABSORBED INTO THE AND THAT CAME FROM A VERY HIGH SOURCE, NOT THE PRESIDENT, BUT A VERY HIGH SOURCE, AND THE--. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED HOW THAT CAR THAT TRAVELS AT 32 MILES AN HOUR AND LEAVES POINT A, HOW LONG IT TAKES CAR B TO CATCH UP WITH IF IT GOES FIVE MILES AN HOUR FASTER, BECAUSE I WAS NEVER ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
IT SOUNDS LIKE CLASSICAL EDUCATION WILL GET ME THERE.
AND I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MISS MARSHA CHANCE AND MISS MARTHA MICKLER, WHO ARE HERE AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
AND WE DO AGREE THAT RELATIONS HAVE IMPROVED IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THAT THE TOWN AND GOWN IS A GREAT THING.
AND SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO ORDINANCES REQUIRING A PUBLIC HEARING, ITEM 8.A.
[8.A.1. Ordinance 2022-05: Clarifies and confirms that the city may use any legally available procedures for code enforcement proceedings. (I. Lopez, City Attorney)]
WE DO HAVE A SECOND READING-- TWO SECOND READINGS.MS. LOPEZ, WILL YOU EXPLAIN TO US ORDINANCE 2022-05 FOR SECOND READING? YES, MADAM VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER'S ORDINANCE 2022-05 IS JUST A CLEAN UP ORDINANCE.
IT'S TO SPECIFY THAT AS WE ARE ALLOWED BY LAW, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF MECHANISMS THAT ARE OPEN TO US FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT, INCLUDING WHAT WE ALL KNOW, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE PROCEEDINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T YET STARTED, BUT THAT WE ADDED TO OUR CODE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AS WELL AS COUNTY COURT ENFORCEMENT.
SO ALL OF THESE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AVAILABLE TO US AS A MATTER OF LAW.
I JUST WANTED TO CLEAN UP OUR CODE TO EXPLICITLY SAY SO.
AND THIS IS A SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL RIGHT. SO ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC READING? QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ALL RIGHT. SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NO SPEAKERS, NO CARDS, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-05 READ BY TITLE ONLY AND I GUESS MS. LOPEZ WOULD READ IT.
[INAUDIBLE] SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-05, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA AMENDING SECTION 2-316 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE TO CLARIFY THAT ALL LEGALLY AVAILABLE METHODS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY.
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ORDINANCE 2022-06.
[8.A.2. Ordinance 2022-06: Clarifies and codifies in greater detail existing procedures for city code citations. (R. Thibault, Assistant City Attorney)]
[INAUDIBLE] CITY ATTORNEY.YES, THIS IS ALSO A SIMILAR CLEANUP ORDINANCE, ORDINANCE 2022-06 CODIFIES WHAT WE'VE INFORMALLY BEEN DOING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IN TERMS OF SPECIFICALLY CODE CITATION PROCEDURES FOR CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT.
SO BY FLORIDA LAW, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO ENFORCE CERTAIN TYPES OF CODE VIOLATIONS THROUGH COUNTY COURT CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS, AND THIS CLARIFIES THE PROCEDURE THAT WE'VE ALWAYS USED, WHICH ALLOWS FOLKS TO PAY THE CITATION AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR DO SOME COMMUNITY SERVICE BEFORE WE GO FORWARD WITH CRIMINAL PROSECUTION ON ANY OF THESE MATTERS.
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SO THIS JUST BASICALLY CODIFIES THAT PROCESS.THE ONE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE THAT WE'VE CHANGED FROM WHAT WE'VE HISTORICALLY DONE IS WE USED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE FOLKS 30 DAYS TO EITHER PAY THE CITATION OR PERFORM THE COMMUNITY SERVICE BEFORE WE WOULD FORWARD THE CITATION TO COUNTY COURT.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE JUDICIARY HAS THEIR REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THE DATE OF THE HEARING ON THE FACE OF THE CITATION, AND WE'RE ONLY ABLE TO GET THOSE DATES ABOUT 30 DAYS OR A MONTH AHEAD OF TIME.
SO WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF 30 DAYS.
SO WE HAD TO SHRINK THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT FOLKS WOULD HAVE TO EITHER PERFORM COMMUNITY SERVICE OR PAY THEIR CITATION TO 15 DAYS.
SO THAT IS THE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE.
THE REST IS JUST CODIFYING A PROCEDURE WE'VE ALWAYS HAD AND THIS IS ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARING? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
DO WE HAVE ANY--? WE DO HAVE SPEAKER CARDS.
B.J. KALAIDI, WEST CITY OF ST AUGUSTINE.
ORDINANCE 2022-06 CLARIFIES CITY CODE CITATIONS ISSUED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, ALSO KNOWN AS CITY POLICE OFFICERS, SECTION 1-8(G).
SECTION 4-5 RELATES TO DRINKING IN PUBLIC.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMISSIONERS FOUND OUT WHAT THESE ORDINANCES WAS ABOUT.
SUCH IN 18-8, I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW BEGGING.
SECTION 22-10 REGULATION STREET ARTIST.
SECTION 24-14 SOLICITATIONS AND TRAFFIC LANES.
AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS REALLY CLARIFIED, AND I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW AND I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT IT.
SECTION 22-12, SLEEPING IN PUBLIC PLACES BY QUOTE HOMELESS END QUOTE, IS IN THAT ORDINANCE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN AND SECTION IN THAT ORDINANCE, SECTION 22-12 (B), DOES THIS APPLY TO ALL PERSONS, NOT JUST THOSE DEFINED AS HOMELESS IN THIS ORDINANCE? SECTION B OF THE 22-12 HAS THE WORDS AND STATES QUOTE NO PERSON.
IT DOES NOT SAY JUST THE HOMELESS.
LET'S SAY SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT HOMELESS FOR SOME REASON DECIDED TO TAKE A NAP AT OYSTER CREEK OR KOKANEE PARK.
BUT ANYWAY, ARE THEY COVERED AND CAN THEY BE CITED BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE IS SAYING ALL PERSONS. THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER, QUESTIONS COMMENTS? MR. LOPEZ. MS. LOPEZ, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? NO, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO.
THAT IS CORRECT-- ARE YOU? OH, I'M SORRY.
I'M SORRY. NO, I WAS ASKING HER TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTION.
YEAH, I THINK I JUMPED OVER HER.
NONE OF OUR ORDINANCES ARE SPECIFIC TO A SOCIAL STATUS, SO WE DO NOT CRIMINALIZE HOMELESSNESS OR A PERSON EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
IT IS BEHAVIOR SPECIFIC, SO IT'S IRRELEVANT WHETHER THE PERSON IS OR IS NOT HOMELESS.
IT IS THE BEHAVIOR THAT WE ARE REGULATING.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
ALL RIGHT. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-06, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AMENDING SECTION 1-8 PERTAINING TO PENALTIES FOR THE VIOLATION OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND ORDINANCES ENACTED BY THE CITY, PROVIDING FOR LEGISLATIVE FINDINGS AND INTENT, PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES, REMEDIES AND COSTS OF ENFORCEMENT, PROVIDING FOR THE IMPOSITION OF LIENS, PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ALONG TO ITEM 9.A IS NEXT.
[9.A.1. Ordinance 2022-07: Updates land development regulations related to home-based businesses. (A. Skinner, Director Planning and Building)]
FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2022-07.GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS AMY SKINNER, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING AND BUILDING
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DEPARTMENT. THIS ORDINANCE ON THE AGENDA IS THE INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING FOR NUMBER 2022-07, TO UPDATE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SPECIFICALLY THE ZONING CODE RELATED TO HOME BASED BUSINESSES.IN 2021, THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE ADOPTED LEGISLATION THAT CHANGED LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ABILITY TO REGULATE WHAT WE CALLED HOME OCCUPATIONS OR THE LIKE TO REFER TO HOME BASED BUSINESSES. THIS ORDINANCE UPDATES OUR CODE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LEGISLATION REMOVING SOME REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS.
THE ORDINANCE WAS REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED BY OUR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD ON MARCH 1ST.
THIS IS FIRST READING, SO I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? NO. I HAVE A COMMENT THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE, AND IT REALLY ISN'T ABOUT THE HOME BASED BUSINESS UPDATE LANGUAGE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF THIS, OK? AND MAYBE GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON IT AS WELL OR AN UPDATE.
IN THE OPEN LAND SECTION OF THIS CODE, SECTION 28-246, WHICH IS PAGE 12 OF THE CODE ITSELF, AND THEN PAGE 31 OF OUR AGENDA PACKET.
I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CALL ATTENTION TO AN EXAMPLE OF A NEEDED UPDATE TO ELEMENTS OF OUR CODE.
AND I NOTE THAT THE PERMITTED USES IN THIS SECTION AND THAT HAVE BEEN DELIBERATED ACTUALLY BY A PROPOSAL FOR DEVELOPMENT OFF OF [INAUDIBLE] STREET BY THE PZB RECENTLY.
BUT THAT THE OPEN LAND SECTION IN THE LANGUAGE, IN THE INTENT NARRATIVE, THE PERMITTED USES AND THE LANGUAGE IN THE INTENT NARRATIVE APPEAR TO BE CONTRADICTORY TO ONE ANOTHER IN SEVERAL INSTANCES.
AND I BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF IS WORKING ON TOGETHER WITH A CONSULTANT, AND I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE.
THAT CONSULTANT, I BELIEVE IS WOOD PLC, AND I THINK THEY WOULD BE INCLUDING THIS IN THEIR SCOPE OF WORK TO UPDATING A LOT OF THE LANGUAGE IN SOME OF OUR CODES.
COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT, PLEASE, MS. SKINNER. THANK YOU. WE ARE EXPECTING THAT THE WOOD CONSULTING FIRM IS GOING TO SUBMIT TO US A DRAFT OF A SCOPE OF SERVICES THAT HAS A RANGE OF ISSUES RELATED TO [INAUDIBLE] CONSERVATION ZONE DEVELOPMENT, UPDATING OUR CODES RELATED TO THAT FOR THE COMP PLAN AND OTHER ISSUES INCLUDING ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LANDS AND THIS OPEN LAND ZONING DISTRICT, WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS SINCE WE DID DO SUCH AN EXTENSIVE REWRITE OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO BALANCING WHAT THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE HAS DONE WITH ALL THE ACTIVITY THERE AND KNOWING THAT WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS ALL OF THESE ISSUES, INCLUDING THIS ISSUE AND ADDRESSING PROPERTIES THAT ARE UPLAND AND LOWLAND ADJACENT TO SENSITIVE LANDS IS PROBABLY A CRITICAL ISSUE THAT WE HAVE.
SO, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'VE GOT A COMMENT BUT WOULD TAKE A LONG TIME.
IT HAS TO DO WITH LAND USE AND TALLAHASSEE INVOLVING ITSELF IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BUT WE'LL PASS ON THAT FOR NOW. WELL, I THINK WE'VE ALL MADE OURSELVES PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT PREEMPTION BY THE STATE, IF IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
YES. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT, BY THE WAY.
THAT WAS VERY RELEVANT AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.
SO DO I HEAR A MOTION? SO MOVED.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-07, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 28, SECTION 28-2, TO PROVIDE A DEFINITION FOR HOME BASED BUSINESS AMENDING CODE SECTIONS 28-161, 28-162, 28-163, 28-164, 28-165, 28-166, 28-167, 28 -183, 28-184, 28-185, 28-187, 28-206, 28-207, 28-208, 28-209, 28-226, 28-246 TO ALLOW FOR HOME BASED BUSINESS AS A PERMITTED USE AMENDING SECTION 28-347 TO MODIFY SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
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CALL THE ROLE, PLEASE.[9.B.1. Resolution 2022-08: Supports the grant application for assistance under the Florida Inland Navigation District's waterways assistance program for the Avenida Menendez Seawall continuation project. (R. Franklin, Director Public Works)]
ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO RESOLUTION 2022-08, MR. FRANKLIN. GOOD EVENING, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS REUBEN FRANKLIN PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, I HAVE RESOLUTION 2022-08, WHICH IS THE SUPPORT A GRANT APPLICATION SUBMITTAL TO THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATIONAL DISTRICT, FINDS.THIS IS IN SUPPORT OF A PROJECT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN.
THE SEA WALL BETWEEN WHERE THE SANTA MARIA USED TO BE TO THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE OF LIONS.
IT'S NOT TO EXCEED $550,000, AND THAT WILL HELP US CLOSE THE GAP OF TOTAL PROJECT COSTS OF A 1.5 MILLION.
SO WE HAVE 75% SUPPORT FROM FEMA, THIS UP TO $550,000 THROUGH FINDS, AND THEN THE CITY WOULD CLOSE THAT GAP.
SO BEFORE YOU IS AUTHORIZATION TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION FOR THE FINDS GRANT FUNDING.
OH, I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION-- I MEAN, A COMMENT.
THIS IS THE SECTION THAT REGULARLY HAS SANDBAGS ON IT? THAT'S CORRECT. YES.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. SO THIS WILL BRING IT UP TO USE THAT 7.1 FEET, WHICH IS THE 100 YEAR STORM WATER ELEVATION EQUIVALENT TO A CATEGORY ONE HURRICANE STORM SURGE.
I MIGHT ADD, THAT'S THE MAGIC NUMBER FOR THE MARIA SANCHEZ LAKE PROJECT AS WELL.
SO 7.1 IS THE STANDARD THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FOR THE CATEGORY ONE? 7.1 FEET IS ROUGHLY AROUND WHAT A CATEGORY ONE STORM SURGE IS.
IT'S ALSO IN THE FLORIDA--, IN THE 100 YEAR STORM ELEVATION FOR THE RIVER, BUT IT'S ALSO JUST HAPPENS TO BE WHAT WE CAN NATURALLY TIE INTO AS WELL.
LIKE THE RIDGE AROUND ELEVATION OF MARTIN LUTHER KING IS ABOUT SEVEN FEET AS WELL.
DO I HEAR A MOTION? SO I MOVED.
WHO GETS THE SANDBAG? [LAUGHTER] SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, MOTION CARRIES.
[11.A. Legislative update. (No Presentation). (I. Lopez, City Attorney)]
ITEMS BY CITY ATTORNEY.I DID NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC PRESENTATION FOR THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE.
AS YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE RAN UNTIL FRIDAY AND THEN TODAY VOTED ON APPROPRIATIONS.
BUT JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS, THE TWO FUNDING BILLS THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, FOR WEST AUGUSTINE SEWER CONNECTION AND FOR THE FIRE STATION, BOTH MADE IT INTO THE APPROPRIATIONS BILL TODAY. SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
OF PERHAPS LESS GOOD NEWS WAS ONE OF SENATOR HUDSON'S BILLS DID ULTIMATELY GET ADOPTED AND THAT IS THE ONE THAT WOULD CREATE A CAUSE OF ACTION AGAINST LOCAL GOVERNMENT IF A LOCAL BUSINESS BELIEVES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN FINANCIALLY IMPACTED BY ONE OF OUR ORDINANCES. THE SHORT TERM RENTAL BILL DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE FINISH LINE, AS DID THE SECOND SENATOR HUDSON BILL THAT WE CHATTED ABOUT EXTENSIVELY, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED AN ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
SO THAT BILL DID NOT GET TO THE FINISH LINE THIS YEAR.
BUT I WILL HAVE A COMPLETE REPORT AT YOUR NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING.
SO YOU WERE REFERRING TO SENATE BILL 620 IS WHAT DID PASS? I HAVE MY MAGIC LIST.
SO THAT GOES--. 494 PASSED WHICH WAS I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER BLONDER HAS SOME COMMENTS ON THAT ONE. HB-105, WHICH WAS THE SMOKING AT BEACHES AND PUBLIC PARKS PASSED, SENATE BILL 518 TITLED RESIDENTIAL HOME PROTECTION BILL PASSED, AND THAT'S THE TREE TRIMMING.
IT WAS NOT THE BILL WE SUPPORTED THAT WOULD HAVE STRICKEN THE PREEMPTION.
THIS CONTINUES THE PREEMPTION, UNFORTUNATELY.
BUT YES, IT IS SENATE BILL 620 BY SENATOR HUDSON THAT DID PASS.
AND THERE'S OTHERS, BUT I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM TODAY.
I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU HAD COMMENTS [INAUDIBLE].
I THINK WITHOUT GOING INTO A GREAT DEAL OF DETAIL AGAIN ABOUT PREEMPTION OR HOW
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DISAPPOINTED I AM IN HB-569, SB-620, I THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO TIE OUR HANDS, AND I JUST THINK IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING, TO SAY THE LEAST.I JUST WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT BECAUSE AS A SCIENTIST, I CAN'T LET THIS GO.
THERE'S A RIDER THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE TO HB-323, 494 OF THE DERELICT VESSELS BILL THAT PASSED PRETTY MUCH AT THE LAST MINUTE.
AND IT ACTUALLY WEAKENS PROTECTIONS FOR GOPHER TORTOISES, AND INSTEAD OF FURTHER PROTECTING THEM, THEY SHOULD BE ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST.
AND I JUST WANT TO CALL PEOPLE'S ATTENTION TO THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T INCREASE PROTECTIONS, IT ACTUALLY DECREASES PROTECTIONS, AND THEY ARE ONE OF THE CHARISMATIC MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT WILDLIFE.
AND SO, AGAIN, I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED AT THAT ATTACHMENT OF THAT RIDER.
ON A POSITIVE NOTE, I'M VERY PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE WEST AUGUSTINE'S SEPTIC TO SEWER TRANSMISSION AND THE FIRE STATION TWO DESIGN ARE AT LEAST AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IN THE APPROPRIATIONS BILL.
OTHER COMMENTS? SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT SENATE BILL 620 HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR AND THAT CALLS HAVE GONE OUT TO APPROACH THE GOVERNOR, CONTACT THE GOVERNOR IN ANY FORM OR FASHION TO SIGNIFY OPPOSITION.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO INDIVIDUALLY, AND IF YOU WISH OR DESIRE, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEND A LETTER ON YOUR BEHALF.
COMPOSE A LETTER IN OPPOSITION, AND I DON'T HAVE THE TIMELINE ON THE MAYOR AND WHERE HE IS, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE OUR TIMELINE IS VERY SHORT ON GETTING A LETTER GENERATED AND SENT TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
SO IF YOU AGREE, THEN I WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
THAT'S THE SENATOR HUDSON BILL.
LET'S DO IT EVERY EVERY EFFORT.
WHY NOT. DO WE HAVE EVERYONE'S NODDING HEADS? OKAY. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL WORK ON THAT TOMORROW WITH CITICORP.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
AND SO ITEMS BY THE CITY CLERK.
[12.A. Request for one appointment to the Corridor Review Committee (CRC). (D. Galambos, City Clerk)]
JUST A COUPLE OF SHORT THINGS.MY FIRST ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR APPOINTMENT TO OUR CORRIDOR REVIEW COMMITTEE.
I GAVE NOTIFICATION THAT WE HAVE ONE TERM EXPIRING.
WE GOT ONE APPLICATION FROM OUR CURRENT MEMBER, MISS LORNA MCDONALD.
SO IF YOU, WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOUR BLESSING TO REAPPOINT HER? I WOULD. THANK YOU.
HE IS APPOINTED. THAT GOOD? DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS OR YOU WANT TO DO A VOICE VOTE, ALL IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THANK YOU FOR HELPING OUT THERE.
I NEED ALL THE HELP I CAN GET.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE THAT ONE.
[12.B. Request for two appointments to the Historic Architectural Review Board (HARB). (D. Galambos, City Clerk)]
HOW ABOUT--. MY SECOND REQUEST TONIGHT IS TO APPOINTMENTS TO OUR HISTORIC ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. WE ALSO ADVERTISE THIS POSITION.I RECEIVED THREE APPLICATIONS, ONE FROM GAERE MCDONALD, WHO IS A CURRENT BOARD MEMBER.
ONE FROM BRAD BEACH, WHO IS A CURRENT MEMBER OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD.
AND ANOTHER ONE FROM MR. JOSEPH BARNHART.
AND AS PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED, I DID NOTE THAT ACCORDING TO HIS RESUME AND APPLICATION, HE DID NOT SIGNIFY THAT HE MET SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE REQUIRE FOR OUR HARB.
WELL, WE HAVE TWO APPLICANTS AND WE HAVE TWO SLOTS.
WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION? WOULD YOU WISH TO TAKE A BALLOT VOTE OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST--.
ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYW.
ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES THERE.
WE HAVE OUR TWO APPOINTMENTS FOR HARB.
[12.C. Request for alternate position to Historic Architectural Review Board (HARB). (D. Galambos, City Clerk)]
AND MY FINAL REQUEST IS A REQUEST FOR APPOINTMENT TO FILL ONE ALTERNATE POSITION ON THE HISTORIC ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD.OUR CURRENT MEMBER, MISS BARBARA WINGO, HER TERM EXPIRES ON MARCH 28TH.
SHE HAS GRACIOUSLY SERVED TWO FULL TERMS AND BECAUSE SHE IS A ALMOST A FORMER HARB MEMBER, SHE IS ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS AN ALTERNATE, WHICH IS A CRITERIA TO SERVE IN THAT POSITION, AND SHE IS APPLIED TO BE AN ALTERNATE.
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THAT'S GREAT. YES.VOTE FOR THAT. YES, THAT'S I THINK THAT'S A YES ALL AROUND.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO MS. WINGO. SHE HAS BEEN A STELLAR HARB MEMBER, SO WE'RE SO GRATEFUL THAT SHE'S GOING TO STAY ON AS AN ALTERNATE. ITEMS BY CITY MANAGER.
[14. ITEMS BY MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS]
ITEM IS BY MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I WAS SUPER EXCITED, AS I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES MUST HAVE BEEN AS WELL, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, AFTER MUCH WORK BY STAFF AND OTHERS, PASSED SOME ABILITY IMPACT FEE AT OUR LAST MEETING.
AND BUILDING ON THAT, WE'RE REALLY MOVING TOWARD MANY OF THE GOALS OUTLINED IN THAT MOBILITY PLAN OF OUR COMP PLAN.
I WOULD THEREFORE SUPPORT INITIATING THE PROCESS TO EXPLORE A MOBILITY, ZONING AND LAND USE CATEGORY.
THIS WOULD ENABLE STAFF TO DEVELOP PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE PCB AND IF PASSED BY THEM, CONSIDERATION BY US FOR A NEW LAND USE CATEGORY, WHICH I PROPOSED WOULD BE MOBILITY--.
I CAN'T SAY THIS WORD. MOBILITY ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IN OUR PLAN AND A NEW ZONING CATEGORY MOD IN OUR ZONING CODE.
SUCH A CATEGORY MIGHT CLUSTER HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AROUND TRANSIT HUBS IN SUPPORT OF OUR MOBILITY PLAN.
AND SO WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS ON THAT PLAN.
I THINK THIS NEW LANGUAGE WOULD ENABLE US TO MAKE EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS.
CITY MANAGER, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THAT UP? I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT RECOMMENDATION, AAD CAN YOU BRING BACK SOME OPTIONS? SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IF AGREED TO BY YOU, ALL THIS COULD GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND I'LL ASK MR. BIRCHIM TO COME UP AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP.
OKAY, LET'S HEAR FROM MR. BIRCHIM THEN.
[LAUGHTER] GOT DAVID [INAUDIBLE], DIDN'T IT? SO IS THIS ANOTHER WORD FOR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT? I'LL LET DAVID ANSWER THAT, ACTUALLY, I THINK--.
IT IS SIMILAR TO TOD, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S FOCUSED ON OUR MOBILITY PLAN.
SO IT'S A SAINT AUGUSTINE CUSTOMIZED TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IDEA.
AND THE FIRST STEP AFTER SPONSORSHIP, WHICH IS WHAT COMMISSIONER BLONDER JUST DID, WOULD BE FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD TO BEGIN TO REVIEW THAT PROCESS.
WE HAVE A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER WHO'S INTERESTED IN EXPLORING THAT, MR. BARRY BROUDY'S SITE, AS YOU RECALL, SEEING EARLIER.
AND SO THE MOD ZONING AND LAND USE WILL GO TO OUR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
THEY WILL ALSO CONSIDER ASSIGNING THAT MOD LAND USE AND ZONING TO MR. BROUDY'S PROPERTY CONDITIONAL UPON FINAL APPROVAL BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND BY THE CITY COMMISSION. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. [INAUDIBLE] QUESTION, WHAT ARE THE SPEED BUMPS THAT YOU FORESEE? IS IT DOABLE? IT'S VERY DOABLE, BUT IT IS GOING TO TAKE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT AND COMMENT ON IT, BECAUSE IT WILL BE AN INTENSITY ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY, AND EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO COME OUT AND SPEAK THEIR MIND ON THAT EFFORT.
WE BELIEVE IT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR MOBILITY ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT IS A SITE WHERE WE ENVISION A GARAGE, A PUBLIC PARKING GARAGE OR A GARAGE WITH A PUBLIC COMPONENT TO IT, AS WELL AS A SHUTTLE SERVICE FROM THAT GARAGE DOWNTOWN.
FOR FOLKS THAT MAY WORK DOWNTOWN, INSTEAD OF DRIVING INTO TOWN OR VISITORS TO STOP AT THAT GARAGE AND BE SHUTTLED INTO DOWNTOWN FOR EVENTS, FOR EXAMPLE.
WE ALSO WOULD LIKE JTA TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE RAILROAD TRACKS ADJACENT TO THAT SITE FOR A COMMUTER RAIL STATION.
SO THOSE ASPECTS, ALONG WITH MAYBE SOME IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION AT KING AND PONCE DE LEON BOULEVARD, WOULD BUNDLE ENOUGH MOBILITY COMPONENTS TOGETHER TO JUSTIFY AN INCREASE IN DENSITY AND INTENSITY FOR THAT SITE.
THIS IS A VERY COMMON PLANNING USE OF LAND AROUND TRANSIT STATIONS, BUT IN LARGER METRO
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AREAS IT'S CALLED TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, AND WE DIDN'T WANT THAT TOD, WHICH IS A VERY COMMON PLANNING TERM TO BE COMPARED TO WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WHICH IS CALLED MOBILITY ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE DONE IN LARGE METRO AREAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO.SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO INVITE THAT COMPARISON, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR MOBILITY PLAN.
AND PART OF THAT IS THE PRIVATE SECTOR PARTICIPATION, AND THIS IS THE FIRST STEP TOWARDS THAT. EXCITING.
YES, RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S WHY I SEE MR. BROUDY IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY DO WE NEED A SECOND ON THAT? CAN WE NOD HEADS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT? YEAH, I THINK WE SAW CONSENSUS FROM--.
YES. I'M SEEING ALL FOUR COMMISSIONERS PRESENT ARE SHOWING CONSENSUS TO THE CONCEPT.
I THINK THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU.
THANKS DAVID. I APPRECIATE THAT.
ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, WELL, YOU'LL SEE THEM AT YOUR DESK ARE THESE PHOTOGRAPHS.
IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE SECOND SHEET.
THAT'S NOT THE POSTCARDS, WHICH IS THE SHEET.
THE TOP PHOTOS SHOW OUR CURRENT FOUNTAIN IN FRONT OF THE CITY HALL, AND IT'S IN BAD CONDITION. AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO PATCH IT FOR YEARS.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE THIRD RENDITION OF THE FOUNTAIN.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND SHEET OF THE POSTCARD, YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DESIGNS. SO FAR, THIS IS ALL THE RESEARCH I'VE DONE, BUT YOU CAN SEE JUST A LITTLE BUBBLER, A LITTLE SPRAY, AND THEN ONE SPRAY THAT HAS COQUINA ROCKS AROUND IT, AND IN THE BACK WE HAVE BEHIND THE LIGHTNER, WE HAVE A LITTLE SPRAY.
SO I WANTED TO RESEARCH MORE TO FIND OUT WHAT I COULD ABOUT POTENTIALLY EITHER REPAIRING THIS SIGNIFICANTLY, RECASTING THIS SIGNIFICANT--.
THIS CAME IN, THE THIRD RENDITION CAME IN THE 60S, WE THINK.
SO IT'S BEEN THERE QUITE A LONG TIME.
BUT I, YOU KNOW, IT'S METAL AND METAL'S NOT HOLDING UP.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOGRAPH I TOOK OF THE FOUNTAIN AT THE FLAGLER COLLEGE, IT'S CONCRETE, OBVIOUSLY WOULD HOLD UP BETTER.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF COMPANIES THAT PRECAST OR CAST, AND THERE'S THINGS OUT ON THE MARKET THAT COULD SUFFICE.
THAT LOOKS A LOT LIKE THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'D LIKE TO WORK ON THIS TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REPLACE IT WITH.
BEING I WAS PLAYING WITH THESE FELONS A FEW YEARS AGO.
YES, I REMEMBER. INTERESTING ENOUGH, IN MY RESEARCH, WITH EXCEPTION OF THE FROG FOUNTAIN, AS I CALLED IT, AT THE FLAGLER'S ENTRY PLAZA, ALL OF HENRY FLAGLER FOUNTAINS WERE SPRAYS.
THEY ALL [INAUDIBLE] LOTS OF SPRAY, WHICH REQUIRES LOTS OF PUMPING CAPACITY, AND I THINK THE SPRAY WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO RETURN TO THAT.
HAVING SAID THAT, THE ONLY ONE THAT WE CAME UP WITH THAT WASN'T THAT WAS THE ONE IN THE ENTRY OF THE CORRIDOR.
AND WE REBUILT THAT ONE AS WELL, BY THE WAY.
WE [INAUDIBLE] THAT FOR FLAGLER AND--.
YOU DID? I MEAN YOU BUILT THE FLAGLER ONE.
YEAH, WE DID. YEAH, WE REBUILT THAT ONE, WE RE-PIPED IT.
WE DID THE ONE ON CORDOVA, WHICH IS ON THAT WAS A SPRAY AS WELL.
NOW IT'S A TUMBLING DOWN TYPE MASONRY THING.
THEN WE DID THE TWO LIGHTNER, THE ONE BEHIND THE LIGHTNER--.
I DIDN'T DO THAT ONE, SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT ONE.
BUT AGAIN, THAT IS A MASONRY STRUCTURE THAT SPILLS OUT.
IT'S NOT A BUBBLE UP OR A SPRAY, BUT YEAH, I'D BE--.
I LOVE PLAYING FOUNTAINS. LET'S DO THIS.
JUST A REMINDER THAT ANYTHING WE DID WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE HARB, SO JUST WANT TO PUT THAT REMINDER OUT THERE FOR YOU, ALL RIGHT? OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS? ALL RIGHT, THEN.
HEARING NO ITEMS FURTHER, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.