3.A. Special presentation of the American flag to the family of former mayor Eddy Mussallem in recognition of his contributions to the City of St. Augustine. (T. Upchurch, Mayor)

[3.A. Special presentation of the American flag to the family of former mayor Eddy Mussallem in recognition of his contributions to the City of St. Augustine. (T. Upchurch, Mayor)]

OUR FIRST ITEM OF SUBSTANCE ON OUR AGENDA IS A SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO THE FAMILY OF FORMER MAYOR EDDIE MUSALLAM.

EDDIE'S SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, HIS CITIZENSHIP IN OUR COMMUNITY, HIS PRESENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN DEEPLY REMEMBERED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS SINCE HIS PASSING.

HE LOVES ST. AUGUSTINE DEEPLY, HE LOVED HIS FAMILY DEEPLY AND HE LOVED THIS INSTITUTION OF CITY GOVERNMENT AND THE CITY COMMISSION.

NOT ONLY DID HE SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION, HE ALSO SERVED AS MAYOR AND HAS ALSO BEEN RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF OUR LAW FLORIDA WINNERS OR RECIPIENTS, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, THE HIGHEST HONOR THAT WE GIVE TO FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

HIS DAUGHTER, MARCIA BAILES, IS HERE WITH HER HUSBAND, JIMMY BIO'S, AND AS IS OUR CUSTOM, WE HAVE AN AMERICAN FLAG THAT WAS FLOWN AT HALF MAST ON THE DAY OF HIS FUNERAL AT THE CATHEDRAL. AND THIS IS SIMPLY ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO TO THANK HIM, TO THANK HIS FAMILY FOR HIS LOVE, DEVOTION AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO MARCIA AND JIM, IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO COME FORWARD AND COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME, PLEASE.

YOU KNOW, JUST JUST SO APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYTHING AND FOR JIMMY, YOUR HOME, THEIR PRESENCE AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SUCH A LONG AND DEAR PART OF OUR.

AND SO ON BEHALF OF THE CITY WE WANT.

THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD BE HAPPY IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT MAY NOT BE YOUR CUP OF TEA. I'LL SAY SOMETHING VERY, VERY QUICK TURNAROUND.

YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK THE HONORABLE MAYOR AND THE COMMISSION FOR THE BEAUTIFUL TRIBUTES THAT THE CITY PUT ON DURING THE WEEKS AFTER EDDIE'S DEATH.

IT MEANS A LOT TO THE FAMILY AND IT SHOWS A LOT ABOUT SAINT AUGUSTINE.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MARCIA.

OK. THE FLAG MAY GO IN THIS ARRAY TO MUSEUM, BY THE WAY, WITH THE LITTLE STORY BEHIND IT.

SO WATCH OUT.

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BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO TURN TO THE CITY MANAGER, WHO I THINK HAS A BRIEF INTRODUCTION.

MAYOR COMMISSIONERS, GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAYOR UPCHURCH, I'D LIKE TO JUST DO A QUICK RECOGNITION AND INTRODUCTION OF OUR NEW INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATOR WITH THE ST.

JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT LIAISON POSITION.

IT'S OFTEN THE WAY THAT WE END UP BUILDING PROJECTS AND DOING COLLABORATIONS.

AND DOUG CONKEY IS A U.S.

NAVAL ACADEMY GRADUATE, A 21 YEAR NAVAL SERVICE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE FOR THE MILITARY AS A PILOT. AND HE WILL LOOK VERY FAMILIAR TO A COUPLE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE FROM 2006 TO 2014, HE SERVED AS THE CLAY COUNTY, AS A CLAY COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND WORKED CLOSELY WITH VICE MAYOR NANCY SIKES-KLINE AND COMMISSIONER ROXANNE HORVATH.

AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE JUST TO ASK DOUG IF HE'D JUST COME UP AND SAY HELLO SO THAT WE CAN ATTACH A NAME AND A FACE AND LET HIM GIVE MAYBE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A WELCOME.

PLEASE. WELCOME, SIR.

WELL, THANK YOU, SIR, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I'M EXCITED TO BE BACK INTO PUBLIC SERVICE, SOME WEARING MY NAVY SHIRT.

IT WAS A GREAT WEEKEND FOR THE NAVY FOOTBALL TEAM, SO I'M EXCITED.

BUT AS YOU HAD HEARD, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SERVICE IS A PASSION OF MINE AND IN THIS NEW ROLE AND YOU ARE THE CUTTING EDGE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO WITH OUR GOALS OF PROTECTING OUR RESOURCES, SUPPORTING GROWTH AND ENSURING SUSTAINABILITY.

SO I AM EXCITED TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF, PARTICULARLY JESSICA, WITH HER RESILIENCY BACKGROUND. THE REGIONAL COUNCIL HAS A NEW RESILIENCY PERSON, SO I JUST THINK THE HORIZON IS GREAT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TACKLE THESE ISSUES FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

AND IT'S IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO THIS.

AND I'M LEARNING A WHOLE NEW DIALOG, A SET WITH TRANSPORTATION WITH NANCY.

TRANSPORTATION WAS MY BIG DRIVE.

NOW IT'S WATER AND I FIND WATER TOUCHES EVERYONE AND WE ALL HAVE A GREAT BACKGROUND.

SOME OF YOU A VERY EXTENSIVE BACKGROUNDS.

SO I'M EXCITED TO WORK WITH YOU.

YOU ARE THE LEADERS, YOU AT THE TIP OF THE SPEAR, WHERE THE THINGS YOU'RE DOING THAT I WANT TO TAKE AND RAISE TO THE LEVEL OF THE REGION BEING ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE THEN WE'RE A STRONGER VOICE.

PEOPLE REALIZE IT, AS NOTICED BY THE GOVERNOR, JUST RELEASED $270 MILLION IN PROJECTS FOR RESILIENCY. THE CASHIER PROGRAM THAT THE DISTRICT HAVE HAS IS EXTENSIVE USE.

LEVERAGING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY TO GET YOUR GOALS DONE IS AN A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT, SO THAT IS AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY.

AND THEN THE PRESS RELEASE THAT WAS REALLY CAME OUT LAST WEEK WAS THAT THE DISTRICT IS NOT NO LONGER CHARGING FOR THE CAPPING OF ARTESIAN WELLS, WHICH DOES TWO THINGS ONES IT SAVES PEOPLE MONEY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, SAVES MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER A DAY, WHICH OBVIOUSLY PLAYS A BIG PART AND WHAT WE DO WITH NOT ONLY THE GROUNDWATER, BUT THE AQUIFER.

AND WE HAD THE BIG WATER SUPPLY.

OUR COMP PLAN IS THE WATER SUPPLY AND THAT IS GOING TO BE COMING OUT NEXT YEAR.

SO THERE'LL BE EXTENSIVE DISCUSSIONS.

BUT I'M JUST EXCITED TO BE HERE BECAUSE YOU ARE THE CUTTING EDGE OF TACKLING THIS ISSUE THAT NOW THE STATE IS RECOGNIZING AS AN ISSUE.

SO ST.

AUGUSTINE ONCE AGAIN IS THE SPEARHEAD AND THE UNITED STATES.

BUT THIS REGION, SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP UNDER THESE TOUGH TIMES BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY RESOURCES ARE TOUGH.

YOU DON'T HAVE LIKE YOUR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT.

NONE OF THEM COME CHEAPLY.

YOU HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER PRIORITIES.

SO I'M EXCITED TO WORK WITH YOU AND I AM HERE TO SERVE AND HELP YOU IN ANY WAY I CAN ACCOMPLISH YOUR GOALS.

SO THANK YOU. IT WAS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU TONIGHT AND WELCOME BACK.

WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO COME OVER AND VISIT WITH THIS EVENING.

AND OF COURSE, I'M SURE YOU KNOW THAT THE QUARTERBACK FOR NAVY IS THE ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY PRODUCT FROM ST.

JOHN'S CREEKSIDE HIGH SCHOOL, AND NEXT YEAR'S QUARTERBACK IS FROM MENENDEZ HIGH SCHOOL.

SO FOR NAVY.

SO WE'RE QUITE PROUD.

WE'RE ALL NAVY, EXCEPT FOR MR. PICKETT, WHO IS CONSPICUOUSLY ABSENT HERE THIS EVENING.

BUT WE WELCOME YOU.

FANTASTIC, AND THANK YOU.

THAT IS A GREAT OBSERVATION.

SO ALTHOUGH I HAVE ONE QUICK, THEY ALWAYS ANNOUNCE HIM AS SAINT.

HIS TOWN AS ST. JOHN'S, FLORIDA.

IS THAT AN ACTUAL TOWN? OR, THEY SAY, IS THAT? IT IS NOT. IT IS NOT AN INCORPORATED MUNICIPALITY.

IT IS A ZIP CODE.

IT IS ZIP CODE. THANK YOU.

OK. YES, I WAS JUST CONFUSED BY THAT ONE.

ALL RIGHT, COVE. THANK YOU.

YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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OK. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS OF TO ADDRESS THE

[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS OR FOR AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING ASEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING]

COMMISSION, AS YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.

WE'D BE DELIGHTED TO HEAR YOUR CONCERNS.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF CARDS.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD AND PRESENT IT TO ONE OF STAFF AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO RECOGNIZE YOU.

I HAVE TWO CARDS AT THIS POINT.

OUR FIRST IS MAUREEN LONG MS. LONG WELCOME. HI, THERE.

I'M GOING TO GET YOU. THAT'S PERFECT, I'M GOING TO GET YOU TO PULL THAT MICROPHONE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO YOU.

THANK YOU, MAUREEN LONG 1821 CASTILLE STREET.

I BROUGHT A THREE RING BINDER FOR EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE MAYOR.

I'D LIKE TO START ON THE FIRST PAGE AND ON HERE I SHOW LOGOS.

AND AS YOU SEE IN THE LOGOS, YOU SEE THAT THERE ARE COLORFUL LOGOS THAT ARE PRINTED OUT HERE. THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT ONES FROM AROUND THE COUNTY.

ON THE SECOND THIRD PAGE, ESPECIALLY THE THIRD PAGE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE I PULLED SOME IDEAS AND SOME OF THE IMPORTANT ATTRIBUTES OF THIS ISLAND.

YOU'LL SEE THE EAGLE, A SNOWY EGRET, CEDAR TREE, SPARTAN OF GRASS AND MANGOES, AND THEN YOU'LL ALSO SEE THE ORANGES, WHICH TO ME AND TO MANY, REPRESENT THE HISTORY OF THIS ISLAND. BECAUSE WITHOUT JESSE FISH AND HIS ORANGE GROVES, AS I'VE HEARD, THERE WOULDN'T BE THE HISTORICAL COMPATIBILITY OR THE HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE THAT WE HAVE.

ON THE 4TH PAGE.

I THINK IT IS. YOU'LL SEE FISH ISLAND.

THAT'S ONE THAT WHERE I TOOK THE LOGO THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED AND RECOMMENDED FOR TONIGHT TO GO THROUGH, AND I'VE JUST TAKEN PICTURES AND PUT THEM IN THERE.

IT'S VERY ROUGH DRAFT.

IT'S JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA.

WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PAGES AGAIN.

YOU'LL SEE THE LOGOS ON THE OTHER PAGE.

AT THE BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE WHERE THERE'S THE FISH ISLAND, ONE THAT'S RECOMMENDED.

THERE'S A FISH ISLAND. YOU'LL SEE WITH AN EAGLE ON THERE THAT SAYS FISH ISLAND PRESERVE THAT WAS DONE BY A FRIEND OF MINE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND AGAIN THE FISH ISLAND, ONE WHERE I SLIP IN THE PICTURES.

THE NEXT ONE SHOWS THE FISH ISLAND PRESERVE THAT HAS THE EAGLE ON IT WITH THE ORANGES.

AND THAT IS, HE DID THIS PRETTY QUICKLY.

BUT AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THIS IS A PHOTO IT'S USED FOR THE MOCKUP, BUT IT CAN BE CONVERTED TO A HARD EDGE GRAPHICS FOR EASY REPRODUCTION AND LEGIBILITY UPON REDUCING THE SIZE. IT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF ANOTHER LOOK WITH A TRUE REPRESENTATION OF THE NATURAL AND CULTURAL HABITAT OF FISH ISLAND PRESERVE.

THE NEXT PAGE SHOWS YOU CAN ACTUALLY TAKE ANY KIND OF A LOGO AND PUT IT ON A T-SHIRT.

BEING THAT FISH ISLAND, PROBABLY, OR WHAT I'VE HEARD DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF FUNDING.

IT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING TO DO TO HAVE A LOGO THAT YOU CAN PRODUCE AND SELL, JUST LIKE THEY DO IN FLAGLER COLLEGE AND MANY OTHER PLACES TO RAISE FUNDS FOR FISH ISLAND FOR THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO THERE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BY LOOKING AT THE LOGO THAT'S BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT, IT'S FISH ISLAND IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

IT'S GOT THE BEAUTIFUL SKIES WHEN YOU WALK OUT THERE, YOU'VE GOT YOUR ANIMALS, YOU'VE GOT YOUR SPARTAN TINA GRASS, YOU'VE GOT YOUR CEDARS.

THE CEDAR IS PART OF ST.

AUGUSTINE'S, ONE OF THE ST.

AUGUSTINE'S REPRESENTATIVE TREES.

IF WE COULD PUT SOME COLOR IN IT AND MAYBE PUT THE ORANGES IN IT, IT WOULD BE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD THING.

I THINK OUR CITIZENS WOULD RECOGNIZE IT.

AND WITH THE ORANGES, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A PRESERVE, I KNOW IT'S QUESTIONABLE.

BUT PEOPLE WOULD SAY, WHY ORANGES? WHY ARE THE ORANGES HERE? THEN WE GO INTO THE HISTORY OF IT.

WHY ARE THE ORANGES THERE? WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT? AND THE SIGNIFICANCE WAS THAT JESSIE FISH STARTED ONE OF THE FIRST CITRUS PLANTATIONS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH VERY MUCH MS. LONG AND APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT.

I ONLY HAVE ONE OTHER CARD.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO DO SO, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR.

BUT OTHERWISE MS. BJ KALAIDI YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

BJ KALAIDI, WEST CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. LIGHT UP NIGHT SHOULD HAVE RECOGNIZED CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE EMPLOYEES FOR HUMILITY, DEDICATION AND COMPASSION FOR VOLUNTEERING AS SOLOMON CALHOUN CENTER.

12 A. ARE THERE ANY OF THE APPLICANTS FOR THE BOARD'S PRESENT AT THIS MEETING TONIGHT? 10A. THIS FOLLOWS UP WITH WHAT MS. LONG WAS SAYING ABOUT FISH ISLAND LOGO SAYS QUOTE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT IS FOR IS HERE FOR OUR RESIDENTS END QUOTE.

THIS LOGO SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED AT THIS MEETING THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET.

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IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING NO ONE FROM THE PUBLIC ATTENDED THE MEETINGS ABOUT THE LOGO.

THIS ITEM CAN BE BROUGHT BACK JANUARY 10TH, 2022 THE PUBLIC CAN REVIEW THE MULTIPLE LOGOS, INCLUDING WHAT WAS JUST PRESENTED, DEVELOPED AND MAKE SUGGESTIONS.

THERE HAS BEEN NO RESPONSE TO MY WRITTEN NOTE TO MR. REGAN ON DECEMBER 2ND, 2021, REQUESTING THE TRASH CAN AT US 1 AND KING STREET HURSTON PARK BR RETURNED.

PLEASE DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RETURN THE TRASH CAN TO HURSTON PARK.

IF THE TRASH CAN IS NOT RETURNED TO THE PARK AND SENT MR. ROHAN, R-O-H-A-N VOLUNTEERED, PLEASE CONTACT HIM AT NINE ONE NINE SOUTH PONCE DE LEON BOULEVARD, SEBASTIAN HARBOR VILLAS AND ASK HIM AND HIS WIFE TO POLICE THE GROUNDS EVERY DAY AND PICK UP THE TRASH SINCE THERE'S NO TRASH CAN ANYMORE.

AND LEAVE THE BENCHES WHERE THEY ARE AT THAT PARK, MR. ROHAN WAS NOT COMPLETELY ACCURATE WITH COMMENTS AND HIS MANY, MANY EMAILS TO CITY STAFF ABOUT THIS SITUATION AT THAT PARK AND MS. DONNA. I'M READY FOR YOU TO SHOW THIS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID, BUT SHE CAN FIX IT TO MAKE IT THE RIGHT WAY.

THAT'S WHAT SHE TOLD ME.

HERE'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, THOUGH.

PERFECT. I'M GOING TO FIX IT, AND I'M NOT THE BIG TECHNICIAN.

BUT THIS IS A SHIRT THAT'S BEEN REPRODUCED AND FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND IT'S WHAT IS TO SAVE THE SIGNIFICANT SAND LIVE OAK.

AND I THINK I LOOKED AT I'VE GOT THE BLACK AND WHITE OF THE MOCK UP.

I DON'T HAVE ALL THE OTHER ONES THAT YOU SAW.

BUT I THINK TONIGHT AFTER PEOPLE SEE THIS, THEY MAY HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS AND GET WITH MR. RUBIN AND ANYBODY ELSE ON THE STAFF TO MAKE THIS DECISION.

SO EVERYONE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

AND I'M SORRY THAT THE PUBLIC AND MYSELF WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF SOME OF THIS GOING ON.

SO THAT'S ONE REASON I BROUGHT THIS.

AND NO, I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU ALL TO PUT INTO THE RECORD.

I'M TAKING IT BACK HOME WITH ME AND PUTTING IT ON AND WEARING IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MS. KALAIDI.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? SEEING NO ONE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE MEETING IS CLOSED.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM FIVE, THE CONSENT AGENDA MR.

[5. CONSENT AGENDA]

REGAN. MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE A REMINDER OF UPCOMING MEETINGS, INCLUDING THE JANUARY 10TH, 2022 FIVE P.M.

REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING, THE JAN.

24, 2022 3:00 P.M.

SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING REGARDING WORKFORCE HOUSING.

JANUARY 24TH, 2022 FIVE P.M.

REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

WE HAVE APPROVAL MINUTES FROM PRIOR COMMISSION MEETINGS.

OCTOBER 25TH, 2021 REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

OCTOBER 25TH, 2021 SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 8TH, 2021 REGULAR CITY COMMISSIONER MEETING AND NOV.

15TH, 2021 SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

WE HAVE RELEASED A LEAD FOR UNIT CONNECTION FEE MORTGAGE.

MONICA THURSTON 482 BEAUMONT AVENUE.

WE HAVE AN ORDER RELEASING THE CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN LEVIED AGAINST 330 OGLETHORPE BOULEVARD AS PAID IN FULL.

WE HAVE A PROPOSED PROCLAMATION PROCLAMATION 2022-01 PROCLAIMING JANUARY 2022 AS HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS MONTH.

WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION TO LOUISA NEMETH FOR HER 105TH BIRTHDAY.

WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE 2022 CITY COMMISSION MEETING AND HOLIDAY SCHEDULE, AND WE HAVE APPROVAL OF NOMINATION OF BOB AND MARIA ALVAREZ AS A DIABLES AWARD RECIPIENT.

WE ALSO HAVE APPROVAL OF SUMMARY OF RESILIENCE WORKSHOP APPROVAL OF INVOICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,340 AND $750 FOR MARLO VS.

CITY MATTER AND INVOICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $886 AND $4,779 FOR MASKI VS.

CITY MATTER, AND THAT IS THE END OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. REGAN. IS THEIR MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'M SO MOVED.

I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

NANCY SIKES-KLINE? YES. ROXANNE HORVATH? YES. JOHN VALDES.

YES. BARBARA BLONDER? YES.

TRACY UPCHURCH? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 7C-1 DISCUSSION REGARDING USES THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS.

[7.C.1 Other Items Requiring Public Hearing]

WELCOME, MR. JOHNSON.

THANK YOU.

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OK, IT'S FINE. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR, AND COMMISSIONERS, AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE CITY WAS AWARDED 7.7 MILLION DOLLARS IN ARPA FUNDING, WHICH IS THE LAST ROUND OF STIMULUS THAT WAS APPROVED BY CONGRESS. TODAY, WE'RE SEEKING PUBLIC COMMENT AND COMMISSION INPUT ON OUR TENTATIVE PLANS FOR THE SPENDING ELIGIBLE USES, AS WELL AS THE LIST OF RECOMMENDED PROJECTS.

SO THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION GFOA FOR SHORT HAS TAKEN THE LEAD ON HELPING MUNICIPALITIES NAVIGATE THE COMPLICATED AND CHANGING LANGUAGE IN THE BILL.

THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL ITERATIONS ABOUT A LIABILITY THAT HAVE COME OUT, AND GFOA HAS BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH MUNICIPALITIES TO KEEP TRACK OF THOSE CHANGES.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND WITH THESE FUNDS IS THAT THIS IS A ONE TIME TEMPORARY IN NATURE FUNDS, SO YOU DON'T NECESSARILY LOOK TO ADD PROGRAMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE AROUND FOR MANY YEARS BECAUSE WHEN THE FUNDS GO AWAY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SUSTAIN THOSE PROGRAMS IN THE FUTURE.

GFOA STRONGLY RECOMMENDS INVESTMENT IN CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, AND MOST OF THE PROJECTS ON THE LIST THAT YOU'LL SEE TONIGHT ARE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.

SO THERE ARE FOUR MAIN CATEGORIES OF ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES FOR THE USE OF THESE FUNDS, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT FLOOD MITIGATION AND SEAWALL CONSTRUCTION IS NOT ALLOWABLE USE, UNFORTUNATELY.

WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS NEXT ROUND OF STIMULUS HAS THAT IN THERE.

THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TODAY ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON C AND D, OUR GOVERNMENT SERVICES, AS WELL AS INVESTMENTS IN WATER, SEWER AND BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE.

GOVERNMENT SERVICES INCLUDES COSTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY PROVIDED SERVICES OR AID TO CITIZENS, AND ELIGIBLE PROJECTS WOULD INCLUDE THINGS THAT DEAL WITH CYBERSECURITY, PUBLIC SAFETY AND MAINTENANCE OF BUILDINGS.

FOR WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS IS THE BIGGEST FOCUS OF OUR LIST THAT YOU'LL BE SEEING TONIGHT. THE MAIN POINT HERE IS THE SECOND BULLET THAT THE USAGE SHOULD BE ALIGNED WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY'S CLEAN WATER REVOLVING FUND AND OR THE DRINKING WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND.

EACH OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED ON THE LIST DO MEET THOSE CRITERIA.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS OUR REVENUE LOSS CALCULATION, WHICH GFOA PUT TOGETHER.

THE MAIN POINT OF THIS IS IT SHOWS THAT WHILE REVENUES GREW DURING COVID, THEY GREW AT A SLOWER RATE SO THAT REVENUE LOSS NUMBER ALLOWS US GREATER FLEXIBILITY ON USES OF THE FUNDS. SO WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU WILL SEE THE BOTTOM PORTION SAYS REVENUE REDUCTION, AND THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE REVENUE LOSS CALCULATION. SO THIS IS OUR LIST OF INITIAL TENTATIVE PROPOSED PROJECTS THAT WE'D LIKE YOUR INPUT AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC'S INPUT ON.

SO I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMISSION.

ONE LAST THING WE ARE GOING TO BE REQUESTING THE STREET SWEEPERS BE PURCHASED.

THAT IS TWO STREET SWEEPERS AT 250 THOUSAND DOLLARS EACH.

WE'RE REQUESTING THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS ON THAT MR. TODD GRANT HAS SAID THAT THERE ARE TWO SWEEPERS AVAILABLE AND WE CAN GET THEM RELATIVELY SOON IF WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON.

SO AS I UNDERSTAND OUR TASK THIS EVENING IS TO ADDRESS THE REQUEST FOR THE $500,000 ALLOCATION FOR THE NEW STREET SWEEPER? AND THEN THE SECOND IS TO GIVE YOU SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK YOU AND THE REST OF STAFF ON THIS GENERAL OUTLINE OF POTENTIAL EXPENDITURES? AS WELL AS WE'RE HOPING TO OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IF THAT'S POSSIBLE AS WELL.

ABSOLUTELY. GET SOME FEEDBACK.

I'M SORRY, MAYOR. AT THE BEGINNING, I SHOULD HAVE REITERATED THIS REQUIRES PUBLIC COMMENT. OK, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS, OBSERVATIONS? COMMENTS? I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD.

I THINK I WISH I WERE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE EXACT PROJECTS LIKE THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OUTFALL REHAB.

YES, MA'AM. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED IT TONIGHT, NECESSARILY, BUT CERTAINLY UNLESS YOU DO WANT IT. ARE WE APPROVING THIS? NO, WE ARE NOT. NO. OKAY.

BECAUSE I DO HAVE A BLURB FROM TODD GRANT ABOUT THAT.

IF YOU GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND HERE, BECAUSE CERTAINLY ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO ADD IS I WOULD LIKE HIM A GREAT DEAL MORE SPECIFICITY HERE THAN JUST THESE LUMP SUM AND AND GENERAL CATEGORIES.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO TRACK THEM TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT BECAUSE I THINK WE DO

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RECOGNIZE THIS AS SOMETHING OF A ONCE IN A LIFETIME ALLOCATION.

AND I WANT US TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE SPENDING IT PRUDENTLY AND APPROPRIATELY AND WE CAN ACTUALLY POINT TO TO WHAT BECAME AVAILABLE.

AND I SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS, BUT WE AGREE, AND I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS IT IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, ET CETERA, ET CETERA? WELL, I'M SURE WE'VE ALL SPOKEN WITH JOHN ABOUT IT ALSO.

BUT THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD AFTER GETTING BRIEFED ON THIS SEPTIC TO SEWER DOES THAT INCLUDE THE LIGHTHOUSE PROJECT? IT CAN.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TWO DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT, ONE ON THE CAPITAL FINANCING.

SO TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU A GRANULAR LIKE A VERY.

THIS IS, THE THING OF IT IS THIS IS AN ITERATIVE PROCESS.

WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO START VETTING THIS WITH THE PUBLIC AND START ITERATING THE GRANULARITY OF THE PROJECTS.

SO WHEN WE SAY TWO MILLION SUBJECT TO SEWER, IT CAN MEAN A LOT OF THINGS.

IT COULD MEAN LIGHTHOUSE DESIGN.

IT COULD MEAN ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION IN A PROJECT IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE UTILITY SERVICE AREA. SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT TONIGHT IS JUST THE FIRST BLUSH OF WHERE WE'RE LIKE, WHERE WHERE'S THE FIELD OF PLAY THAT WE'RE THINKING? WE WILL ALSO BECAUSE THIS IS TO WAKE UP THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION REALISTICALLY ON THE TENTH, BUT I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP IN FEBRUARY THAT CAN DO THE DEEPER DIVE THAT THE MAYOR IS REFERRING TO, WHICH WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND REALLY GET INTO THE MEAT AND POTATOES.

AND HOW THOSE TWO MILLION WOULD BECOME REFINED.

THE OTHER THING ALSO IS THAT THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE ISSUE IS AN IMPORTANT ONE THAT WE MAY WE MAY WANT TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON NEEDS OF SOME OF THE FACILITIES AROUND THAT ARE PART OWNED BY THE CITY, INCLUDING THE LEITNER BUILDING.

SO REALLY, IT'S AN ITERATIVE PROCESS.

THIS IS THE ONLY ACTION ITEM TONIGHT IS THE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STREET SWEEPERS, WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT FOR POLLUTION REDUCTION AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEIZE ON EQUIPMENT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LONG LEAD TIME.

BECAUSE IF WE HAVE TO ORDER IT, IT IS A LONG LEAD TIME.

IF WE MISS AN OPPORTUNITY.

I MAY BE MISINTERPRETING THIS, SO I.

EXCUSE ME, I AM, BUT I THINK I'M HEARING THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE WHAT OTHER PROJECTS WERE BEING CONSIDERED BEFORE AND THEN CHOSEN BY STAFF AS BEING THESE PROJECTS JUST AS A WAY OF KIND OF BALANCING WHAT OTHER OPTIONS THERE MIGHT BE OUT THERE AND HOW THEY FIT WITH OUR PRIORITIES.

OK, WELL, WE COULD ADD THAT AS LIKE THE WE COULD BRING A LITTLE OF THAT AT THE NEXT PRESENTATION IN THE COMMISSION AND THEN DOVE DEEPER AT THE IN A WORKSHOP ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE ELIMINATED THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE SCALE OF EQUIPMENT WE COULD BUY AS THE BILL BECAME REFINED WITH CRITERIA.

THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE. BUT THERE'S THERE'S A LONG LIST OF CAPITAL NEEDS IN UTILITIES AND THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM, AS ALLUDED TO BY VICE MAYOR SIKES-KLINE.

SO WE'LL CERTAINLY DO THAT.

AND I THINK I SEE FOUR CATEGORIES.

I'M NOT SURE WHICH SLIDE THIS IS, BUT IT'S THE ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES.

CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT PREMIUM PAY FOR ELIGIBLE WORKERS MIGHT BE, MR. JOHNSON? YES, MA'AM.

THAT WOULD BE THINGS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WORKING OVERTIME OR IN THE THICK OF COVID, BEING IN HIGH RISK PLACES WHEN THEY WOULDN'T NORMALLY BE THERE, THAT SORT OF THING.

SO AND I WANT TO GET TO COMMISSIONER VALDES, WHO'S SITTING PATIENTLY, AS ALWAYS.

I'M GOOD, I'M ANXIOUS TO MOVE AHEAD AND SEE IT DRILLED DOWN ON WHERE THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT AND SEE WHAT WE MISSED.

AND SO LET'S GET A REAL QUICK RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER SIKES-KLINE.

YOU SAID YOU HAD A BLURB ON THE OUTFALL.

SURE. SO THE OUTFALL WAS DAMAGED DURING THE HURRICANES, AND THE OUTFALL IS A PIPE THAT IS THE DISCHARGE PIPE. AND SO THIS PROJECT WOULD SECURE THAT PIPE IN THE FUTURE.

AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IS UV DISINFECTION, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY RESULT IN RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN SIX TO EIGHT YEARS BECAUSE IT'S MUCH CHEAPER THAN WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING AND IT DOES IT BETTER.

I THINK WE HAD MS. BREIDENSTEIN WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.

YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION ON LIGHTHOUSE PARK.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS MONEY REQUIRES IS A CERTAIN TIME FRAME AND SPENDING.

SO THE SEPTIC TO SEWER, WE WERE FOCUSING ON THE WEST AUGUSTINE FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT.

BUT YOU'LL SEE LATER TONIGHT WE TALK ABOUT SPENDING OF BOND MONEY.

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AND ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE IS DESIGNED FOR LIGHTHOUSE PARK SO THAT IT HAS BEEN READY FOR THE FUTURE MONEY OR THE PLANNING OF THE SEPTIC TO SEWER LIKE WE'RE DOING IN WEST AUGUSTINE. SO YES, WE CAN, AS JOHN SAID, USE THE SEPTIC TO SEWER AS YOU ALL SEE FIT, BUT FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT, WE KNOW THAT THE WEST AUGUSTINE AREA IS REALLY MORE FURTHER ALONG READY TO GO FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT OF SPENDING.

BUT WE WANT TO GET LIGHTHOUSE PARK THERE BY STARTING THE DESIGN.

SO WE HAVE THE PLAN AND CAN DO THAT GOING FORWARD.

THAT'S GREAT. OK, THANKS.

OK, SO WITH YOUR PERMISSION, COMMISSIONERS, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS PAUSE AND ASK IF THERE IS AT THIS POINT ANY COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC, AND I DO MS. GALAMBOS DOES HAVE AT LEAST ONE OR TWO CARDS.

AND SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THESE VERY TENTATIVE AND AND GENERAL CATEGORIES OF SPENDING OF THE STIMULUS MONEY.

AT THIS POINT, I JUST HAVE ONE CARD IN THAT IS MS. KALAIDI.

BJ KALAIDI WEST CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. YOU HAVE ANSWERED SOME QUESTIONS, BUT SOMEONE CALLED ME FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT WASN'T IN HERE AND CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THIS MONEY IS GOING TO BE SPENT AND QUESTIONS I HAD THAT MR. REGAN HAS SUPPOSEDLY ANSWERED IS THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY OTHER MEETINGS INVOLVING THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS A BEGINNING THING WITH THE STAFF AND THERE WILL BE, I BELIEVE, HE SAID IN FEBRUARY, A MEETING.

BUT SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN JANUARY TO NOTICE THE PUBLIC SO THAT THEY CAN COME AND PARTICIPATE BECAUSE I'M SURE PEOPLE HAVE OTHER IDEAS AND BRINGING UP THE SUBJECT OF SEWER. I WANT TO KNOW IF THAT TWO MILLION DOLLARS IS GOING TO BE IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN PAYING IN WEST AUGUSTINE, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REALLY GET WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S ONE OF THE PLANS BECAUSE IT WASN'T QUITE OUR TAX DOLLARS, BUT IT HAS BEEN COMING OUT OF OUR UTILITY FUNDS.

SO ALL OF US HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING THAT AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S OUR SERVICE AREA. BUT IS THIS TWO MILLION GOING TO MAKE THAT AREA MORE SUSTAINABLE BEFORE YOU GET TO DOING FOR LIGHTHOUSE OR ANYPLACE ELSE WHERE THERE ARE STILL SEPTIC TANKS IN THE CITY LIMITS OF ST. AUGUSTINE? THAT'D BE MY QUESTION.

AND WILL THIS BE LIKE A REIMBURSEMENT TO US FOR WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PAID OR IN ADDITION TO MOVE IT ALONG TO WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN WEST AUGUSTINE IN THAT AREA OF THE COUNTY THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR AS FAR AS PROVIDING SERVICES? SO THOSE ARE BASICALLY THE QUESTIONS TONIGHT.

WHEN WILL WE HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING AND WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO DIVE DEEP INTO IT, IS IT GOING TO BE AFTER WE HAVE A CHANCE, THE PUBLIC REALLY HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO HOW THIS MONEY'S GOING TO BE SPENT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME ON THE PROPOSED EXPENDITURES FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN? I DON'T SEE ANYONE AND SO I'M GOING TO RETURN IT TO THE COMMISSION.

IN THE FUTURE, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF THE INTENT AND THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT THERE BE A PUBLIC HEARING AND IT DOES SAY THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DID NOT SEE IT, MY MISTAKE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YES, I DO. I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

SO WHAT IS THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS ON THIS AND THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT COMPONENT? THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION OF MINE AND THEN.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE DETAILS ABOUT THIS URGENT NEED FOR THE STREET SWEEPER IS THE JUSTIFICATION JUST TO DO WITH ORDERING TIME OR IS THIS A CRITICAL URGENT NEED OR IS IT JUST AN ORDERING TIME ISSUE? IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.

CURRENTLY, WE HAVE TWO STREET SWEEPERS CURRENTLY, ONE WAS PURCHASED IN 2014M ONE WAS PURCHASED IN 2017.

THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME MODEL.

THE TWENTY SEVENTEEN STREET SWEEPER WAS OFF THE ROAD FOR 100 HUNDRED DAYS OUT OF THE PAST YEAR. APPARENTLY, THE MAINTENANCE ON THE CURRENT ONES KEEP THEM DOWN.

A LOT OF TIME, SO THIS WOULD BE REPLACING BOTH OF THOSE, AND I BELIEVE THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO SELL THE THE TWO THAT WE HAVE NOW AND UPGRADE TO THESE.

SO OK.

SO AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS ON WHAT IS EXPLAINED TO ME ABOUT A SIDE LOAD OR GARBAGE TRUCK. YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR AN APPROVAL ON THAT TONIGHT, BUT I DO.

WHAT IS IT? IT'S THE ONE THAT PICKS UP, YOU KNOW, TO PICK UP YOUR RECYCLING BIN BY ITSELF. IT REDUCES THE NEED FOR STAFF, AND THAT'S FOR ONE TRUCK.

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YES, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND THE STREET SWEEPER IS FOR TWO STREET SWEEPERS.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO COMMISSIONERS, I'M JUST NOT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE PIECEMEALING IT, BUT SO I'M NOT THAT COMFORTABLE WITH APPROVING TONIGHT, SINCE IT IS A HALF A MILLION DOLLAR SPEND, BUT I'LL BE INTERESTED IN HEARING MORE.

I HAVE A QUESTION ARE WE BUYING FROM A DIFFERENT MANUFACTURER SINCE WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE TWO THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE? NOT SURE ON THE EXACT MANUFACTURER, THIS IS UNDER STATE CONTRACT.

I DO KNOW THAT, OK, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD DO THE RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MAINTENANCE ON THE ONES WE'RE BUYING PERHAPS WOULD BE BETTER THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT.

AND I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT DOING BECAUSE I KNOW THE LEAD TIME WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT.

SO I WOULD FEEL THAT IF WE CAN BE ASSURED THAT IT'S A GOOD COMPANY WITH, YOU KNOW, LESS MAINTENANCE PROBLEMS THAN I WOULD BE READY TO VOTE FOR THAT.

ARE YOU PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION? I AM. OK, SO MR. SIKES-KLINE MOVES THE APPROVAL OF THAT MILLION DOLLARS FOR NEW STREET SWEEPER AND I WOULD SECOND. NO, I'M SORRY.

WHAT DID I SAY? I DEFINITELY DO NOT.

SORRY, I'M SORRY.

FORGIVE ME. YES.

HORVATH, THANK YOU.

KRISTA HORVATH MOVES THE APPROVAL OF THE HALF MILLION DOLLAR EXPENDITURE FOR THE NEW STREET SWEEPER, AND I WOULD SECOND THAT.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING, NONE, MADAM CLERK, IF YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

ROXANNE HORVATH? YES. TRACY UPCHURCH? YES. JOHN VALDES? YES. BARBARA BLONDER? YES. NANCY SIKES-KLINE? NO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE ALLOCATION IS APPROVED.

MR JOHNSON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER PRESENTATIONS.

[9.A.1. Ordinance 2021-29: Amends the zoning of 66 Lewis Boulevard from PUD to Residential General Office-A (RGO-A). (D. Birchim, Director Planning and Building)]

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM 9A-1.

THIS IS A FIRST READING ON ORDINANCE 2021-29.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS DAVID BERTRAM PLANNING AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT. ORDINANCE 2021-29 IS THE REZONING OF 66 LEWIS BOULEVARD FROM PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, IT WAS PART OF THE OLD.

EXPIRED RIVER'S EDGE PUD, WHICH EXPIRED IN 2008.

IT IS A 0.19 ACRE VACANT PARCEL.

LOCATED NORTH OF RIVER'S EDGE MARINA AND HURRICANE PATTY'S RESTAURANT, IT'S SOUTH OF A LARGE CELL TOWER.

IT IS.

WEST OF THE SAN SEBASTIAN RIVER.

AND THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD LIKE TO RESUME THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, THE VACANT PARCEL TO RESIDENTIAL GENERAL OFFICE/A OR GOA IS A MIXED USE CATEGORY.

IT ALLOWS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND LIGHT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THERE ARE NO PLANS AT THIS POINT THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARCEL, BUT THE EXPIRED PUD ZONING DOES NOT LEAVE HIM WITH ANY OR THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH ANY ZONING ENTITLEMENTS.

THIS REZONING APPLICATION RECEIVED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. AND TONIGHT, HIS FIRST READING, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

SO NUMBER ONE, THIS IS BEING DONE AT THE REQUEST OF THE OWNER AND NUMBER TWO, IT'S NECESSARY BECAUSE CURRENTLY IT'S IN A LIMBO STATUS WITH NO ASSIGNED ZONING? THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS.

I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT ORDINANCE 2021-29 BE READ BY TITLE ONLY AND PASSED A SECOND READING. I SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HORVATH.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021-29, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, REZONING APPROXIMATELY 0.19 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT SIXTY SIX LEWIS BOULEVARD.

PARCEL ID NUMBER 1194900000 IN THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE HAS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HERE AND AFTER FROM ITS CURRENT CLASSIFICATION OF CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD TO THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE CLASSIFICATION OF RESIDENTIAL GENERAL OFFICE A, RGO PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE OF INVALID PROVISIONS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU! FURTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE. MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? TRACY UPCHURCH? YES. ROXANNE HORVATH? YES. JOHN VALDES? YES. BARBARA BLONDER? YES. NANCY SIKES-KLINE.

YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE ORDINANCE PASSES ON FIRST READING.

DAVID, LET MAY ASK A QUICK QUESTION.

HOW MUCH OF THAT PUD REMAINS ON REZONED? THIS IS HALF OF IT, THERE WERE NINE PROPERTIES, 11 PARCELS AND COMPRISING NINE

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PROPERTIES, I WANT TO SAY FOUR HAVE GONE THROUGH A REZONING PROCESS.

THE MARINA AND WHICH ALSO CONTAINS THE RESTAURANT HURRICANE PATTY'S, IS STILL PART OF THE RIVER'S EDGE PUD AND SOME RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH OF THAT ARE STILL PART OF THE EXPIRED PD.

ALL THE OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES HAVE GONE THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS.

MORE COMING THEN. YES, SIR, WE WILL.

SO MR. BERTRAM DOES THE BURDEN FALL TO THE CITY TO INITIATE THAT PROCESS OR THE APPLICANT? NORMALLY, WHEN A PUD EXPIRES, IT REVERTS BACK TO ITS PREVIOUS ZONING CATEGORY.

IN THIS CASE, THE RIVER'S EDGE FOLKS ALSO AMENDED THE UNDERLYING LAND USE TO A RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY MIXED USE LAND USE.

SO WHEN THE PUD EXPIRED, IT COULD NOT REVERT BACK TO ITS PREVIOUS COMMERCIAL MEDIUM TO ZONING BECAUSE IT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERLYING LAND USE.

WE GAVE ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS THE OPTION OF REZONING BACK TO CM-2, AND TWO OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS DID THAT.

THE REMAINING PROPERTY OWNERS FELT THEY HAD MORE VALUE TO THE UNDERLYING LAND USE BECAUSE IT ALLOWED FOR 50 FEET OF HEIGHT, AND THEY BELIEVED THAT AT SOME TIME A DEVELOPER WOULD COME BACK INTO THE PICTURE AND REZONE IT BACK TO PUD, AND THEY WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT ADDITIONAL HEIGHT.

THE CM-2 ZONING ONLY ALLOWS 35 FEET.

THAT NEVER HAPPENED, AND THE RIVER'S EDGE PUD ALSO INCLUDED THE VACATION OF THIS ROADWAY, IN FACT, PART OF WEST AVENUE AND LEWIS BOULEVARD.

WHEN THE PUD EXPIRED, THAT ROAD VACATION WAS NOT FORMALIZED, SO IT'S NOT VACATED.

SO THE ACTUAL RIVER'S EDGE PUD AS IT WAS DESIGNED COULD NOT BE DONE TODAY.

AND I THINK THERE WAS JUST SOME HESITATION, MAYBE SOME MISUNDERSTANDING ON SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT SOMEONE WAS GOING TO COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK AND ASSEMBLE A PARCEL AND THEY COULD REACTIVATE THAT PUD.

AND I THINK THAT'S A REALISTIC RIGHT NOW.

THE OTHER THING I'D ADD IS WHILE LEWIS AVENUE IS UNOPENED, MOST OF ITS LENGTH, ALL THE WAY UP TO KING STREET, IT IS POTENTIALLY A PASS OF BIKING TRAIL WALKING TRAIL THAT WOULD EXIST ALONG THE SAN SEBASTIAN, I THINK WOULD HAVE A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.

I RECOGNIZE THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF CHALLENGES THERE, SO VACATING LEWIS, THIS PARTICULAR ROADWAY, IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF.

AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING THAT.

THAT'S ALL PART OF THAT LONG DREAMED OF AND SOUGHT AFTER A COMBINATION BOARDWALK BIKE PATH, SIDEWALK.

LOVELY ADDITION. MR. MAYOR, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE HAVE SOME UNFINISHED BUSINESS THERE THEN DOESN'T IT DOES TO ME. SO WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS FOR EITHER? WORKING THIS OUT AND EDUCATING THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE STILL UNDER THE PUD ZONING. WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? OH, WELL, I'VE, THIS HAPPENED IN 2008, AND I MADE A GALLANT EFFORT TO MAKE SURE EVERY ONE OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS UNDERSTOOD CLEARLY WHAT WAS GOING ON.

I CAN GO BACK.

I'M SURE SOME OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE ARE NO LONGER PROPERTY OWNERS.

I CAN GO BACK AND REMIND FOLKS THAT ARE STILL IN THE PUD WHERE THEY STAND FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE. THE FOLKS THAT OWNED THE RIVER'S EDGE MARINA AND HURRICANE PATTY'S, THOSE ARE THE SAME OWNERS AND THEY'RE FAIRLY SOPHISTICATED, SO I'M SURE THEY UNDERSTAND.

BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO THE OTHER OWNERS.

I ASSUME IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPEDIMENT, MS. LOPEZ, FOR THEM TO ATTEMPT TO SELL THE PROPERTY WITHOUT HAVING ZONING BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T REPRESENT AS TO WHAT ZONING WAS AVAILABLE.

SURE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, GOOD OLD FLORIDA LAND SPECULATION, SO YOU'LL ALWAYS FIND A WILLING BUYER AT SOME PRICE POINT, I SUSPECT WILLING TO TAKE ON THAT, THAT ADMINISTRATIVE TASK, I WOULD IMAGINE, BUT IT DOESN'T APPEAR IT'S HAPPENED ANY TIME SOON.

WELL, IRONICALLY, THIS PROPERTY.

BEGAN THE REZONING PROCESS WITH ONE REAL ESTATE OWNER.

AND ON FRIDAY IT CLOSED WITH ANOTHER OWNER WHO GAVE US HIS AUTHORIZATION THIS MORNING THAT TELLS YOU HOW RAPIDLY THINGS CHANGE IN REAL ESTATE IN ST.

AUGUSTINE. WELL, I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE JUST SEEMS TO ME A HOUSEKEEPING THING.

SEEMS TO ME WE'RE AVOIDING PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD.

I DON'T WANT YOU TO HIT YOUR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME PRUDENT TO REACH OUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

IT WILL CLEAN ITSELF UP IN TIME BECAUSE AS BUYERS COME FORWARD TO PURCHASE IT, THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN HERE AND REZONE IT, YOU KNOW, SO AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN VERY SHORT ORDER BECAUSE THAT AREA IS BECOMING HOTTER AND HOTTER.

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SO, OK, VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW ON RESOLUTION 2021-43 ESTABLISHES THE INTENT TO REIMBURSE

[9.B.1. Resolution 2021-43: Establishes the intent to reimburse certain capital expenditures. (G. Johnson, Deputy Director Finance)]

CERTAIN CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, MR. JOHNSON.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

RESOLUTION 2021-43 ESSENTIALLY IS APPROVING.

WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU APPROVE US SPENDING IN ADVANCE OF LOAN FUNDS THAT WE ANTICIPATE RECEIVING IN Q2 OR Q3 OF THIS COMING YEAR.

THE PROJECTS THAT THE FUNDS WILL BE SPENT ON IS PART OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS PLAN, WHICH YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WHEN YOU APPROVE AT THE BUDGET APPROVAL.

WE HAVE A LIST OF THE PROJECTS WE CAN GO THROUGH THOSE IF YOU LIKE.

BUT YEAH, ESSENTIALLY WE WERE LOOKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO GO AHEAD AND START SPENDING AHEAD OF TIME. AND SO WHEN YOU SPEND, IT ALLOWS US TO CAPTURE THOSE EXPENDITURES AND CAPITALIZE THEM INTO THE LOAN PROCEEDS? CORRECT. WE'LL ESSENTIALLY BE PAYING OURSELVES BACK WITH THE LOAN FUNDS WILL BE USING OUR CURRENT FUNDS NOW AND THEN PAYING OURSELVES BACK THE LOAN FUNDS.

OKAY. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? IS THERE MOTION? WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2021-43.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BLONDER.

A MOTION AND SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

TRACY UPCHURCH? YES. BARBARA BLONDER? YES.

NANCY SIKES-KLINE? YES. HORVATH? YES. JOHN VALDES? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. JOHNSON. THE RESOLUTION IS APPROVED.

[9.B.2. Resolution 2021-44: Authorizes a Utility Work Agreement between the Florida Department of Transportation and the City. (R. Franklin, Director Public Works)]

WE ARE NOW ON RESOLUTION 2021-44.

MR. FRANKLIN.

GOOD EVENING. AFTERNOON, STILL.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS REUBEN FRANKLIN, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE. THE THERE'S A RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

TO ENTER INTO A UTILITY WORK AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR UTILITY RELOCATES FOR CITY WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE.

THIS IS PART OF THE STATE ROAD 312 EXTENSION.

SO I'VE PROVIDED A LOCATION MAP.

IF YOU LOOK TO YOUR LEFT NOW, THE NORTH ARROW IS FACING DOWNWARD ON THIS, BUT THE EXISTING ROADS IS STATE ROAD 207 AND 312 RIGHT HERE.

THE EXTENSION IS GOING TO GO FROM THAT INTERSECTION TO THIS CURVE SHAPE AND TIE INTO SOUTH HOLMES BOULEVARD.

SO THAT WILL BE THE FIRST PART OF A LONG WE'VE BEEN PLANNING FOR THIS ROAD FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. BUT THIS IS THE FIRST SEGMENT THAT EVENTUALLY WILL CONNECT THE STATE ROUTE 16 AND THEN FROM STATE ROAD 16 TO NORTH US 1.

OUR UTILITY LOCATES AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT IS REALLY IN THE BLUE AREA THAT I CIRCLED.

IT'S A TOTAL OF 138 THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE DO HAVE BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR.

QUESTIONS? NO, BUT I'LL JUST MAKE A STATEMENT.

WHY AREN'T WE CALLING THIS 313? WE'RE JUST CALLING IT 312 EXTENSION? THEY CHANGED THE NAME, IT USED TO BE STATE ROAD 313, BUT THEY'VE CHANGED THE NAME OF THIS SECTION TO STATE ROAD 312.

SO 313, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'LL START FROM HOLMES BOULEVARD.

YEAH. SO WHEN IT CROSSES? YEAH. EVENTUALLY? RIGHT. SO ORIGINALLY THIS ALL WAS KNOWN AS STATE ROAD 313.

RIGHT.

SO, AND AS FAR AS I DON'T MAYBE, MAYOR, YOU REMEMBER, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE I REMEMBER.

NEWS AND 80S, WHEN THEY BUILT THE OVERPASS OF 312 THERE, THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT BUILDING THIS ROAD, SO I KNOW THAT [INAUDIBLE] REMEMBER THIS, BUT IT'S BEEN AT THE TOP OF OUR PRIORITY LIST AT THE TPO REGIONAL LEVEL FOR, EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON EITHER AT THE TOP OR AT THE VERY CLOSE TO THE TOP.

SO THAT'S CORRECT, YES.

SO IT WILL BE A BIG PROJECT.

OUR PART IN IT IS REALLY JUST RELOCATING OUR UTILITIES NEAR THE EXISTING INTERSECTION OF STATE ROAD 207 AND 312.

BUT THEY'VE GOT THE MONEY AND IT'S FUNDED FOR CONSTRUCTION, FULLY FUNDED FOR CONSTRUCTION

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NOW. THIS PART? YES. YEAH. AND SO I DON'T KNOW.

I'M JUST REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE NOT THAT I'M A BIG FREAK ABOUT BUILDING NEW ROADS. I DON'T ALWAYS NECESSARILY LOVE THAT OR THINK IT'S A GREAT SOLUTION, BUT THIS COULD BE A VERY GOOD BYPASS FOR US.

YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE CONGESTION, WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY NORTH-SOUTH ROADS, AND U.S.

ONE IS ALWAYS CONGESTED.

NOW, MASTERS IS REALLY A NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD.

AND HOLMES BOULEVARD IS ALREADY PEEKING OUT.

SO, SO, YEAH.

ARE THERE FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION? I WOULD BE DELIGHTED.

THANK YOU. SO THE VICE MAYOR HAS MOVED APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

NANCY SIKES-KLINE? YES. JOHN VALDES? YES.

ROXANNE HORVATH? YES.

BARBARA BLONDER? YES.

TRACY UPCHURCH? YES. THANK YOU. THE RESOLUTION IS APPROVED, MR. FRANKLIN. THANK YOU.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 10A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL FOR THE FISH ISLAND PRESERVE LOGO.

[10.A. Request for approval of Fish Island Preserve Logo. (R. Franklin, Director Public Works)]

OK. THIS IS ME AGAIN.

SO. STAFF FORMED A COMMITTEE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH LOGO DESIGN FOR THE FISH ISLAND PRESERVE.

IT REALLY WAS GENERATED.

WE HAD A COMPANY HYBRID DESIGN THAT REACHED OUT TO DONATE SERVICES THAT HAD PLANTED THE IDEA OF DOING SOME KIND OF LOGO.

WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA, SO WE MOVED FORWARD WITH IT.

WE DID FOLLOW OUR PROCESSES THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WITH, LIKE THE RESILIENT ST AUG LOGO. SO WE FORMED A STAFF COMMITTEE.

WE DID PUBLIC NOTICE THAT IT WAS POSTED DOWN IN THE LOBBY HERE.

ADMITTEDLY, THERE WASN'T A LARGE PUBLIC OUTPUT CAMPAIGN TO GET INPUT FROM.

BUT WE DID GO THROUGH ITERATIONS AND BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WAS THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF THE LOGO.

THE LOGO WOULD GO ON THE PANELS THAT ARE CREATED.

ONE OF THE PANELS, YOU KNOW, THE KIOSK THAT WILL HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE NATURE.

ONE OF THEM IS CALLED THE ORANGE BARON, SO THERE WILL BE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ORANGE GROVES ON FISH ISLAND.

IF THIS WAS APPROVED TONIGHT, WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PANEL CREATIONS.

IF NOT, IF THE COMMISSION CHOOSES FOR US TO GET MORE PUBLIC INPUT, THEN WE WOULD DO THAT AND IT WOULD PROLONG THE PRODUCTION OF THE PANELS AS WELL.

BUT I'M HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE DID GET SOME PUBLIC FEEDBACK REGARDING THAT INPUT PROCESS, SO I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN WHAT THE COMMISSION AS WILL IS.

WHILE I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE BY STAFF AND THE PEOPLE YOU SAID HYBRID DESIGN DONATED.

HYBRID DESIGN DONATED THE SERVICES FOR THE PANEL.

WE HAVE RETAINED THEM ACTUALLY FOR THE LOGO DESIGN WORK ITSELF, BUT IN TOTAL THEY'RE DONATING ABOUT 55 HUNDRED DOLLARS OF THEIR SERVICE.

THAT'S GREAT. I FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE NEED MORE PUBLIC INPUT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WAS DONE THAT WE REVIEWED EARLIER.

I THINK IT COULD BE A LITTLE LIVELIER IN TERMS OF COLOR.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF INPUTTING SOME ORANGES IN THERE, SO MAYBE THEY COULD TAKE SOME OF WHAT'S BEEN SHOWN TO US AND RELOOK AT THEIR LOGO IN LIGHT OF THAT.

AND I THINK MAYBE GETTING THE WORD OUT ON THEIR WEB SITE MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO GET PEOPLE'S INPUT TOO. BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO RUSH INTO THIS.

AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING GRAPHIC THAT THEY MIGHT USE TO RAISE FUNDS, SO. I WOULD CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER HORVATH AND RECOMMEND THAT WE TABLE THIS ITEM THIS EVENING AND ASK STAFF TO RECONVENE WORK WITH THE DESIGNER AND WE ARE SO, SO APPRECIATIVE OF OF THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE AND THEIR DONATED WORK IN PARTICULAR.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT A GREAT DEAL AND MAYBE BRING IT BACK AT OUR FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE? JANUARY? WELL, NOT JANUARY, JUST BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY.

OH OK. I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY MADE AND SO FORTH.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.

FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY.

OK. SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION THAT WE TABLED THIS EVENING.

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I'M SORRY, ARE YOU GOING TO ASK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO MAKE? YES, LET ME JUST FINISH MY MOTION.

SO WOULD BE TO TABLE THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.

BRING IT BACK TO THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY.

ASK STAFF TO REVISIT THE CONCEPTS WITH THE DESIGNER AND TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE ROBUST PUBLIC INPUT.

YES, COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE]? SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. FRANKLIN. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT A SIGNIFICANT DONATION WAS RECENTLY MADE AND THAT THAT WOULD GO TOWARD THE PANELS.

IN PART, IT WOULD GO TOWARD THE PANELS.

DID I GET THAT RIGHT? YES, WE HAVE.

WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY THAT'S BEEN DONATED TO CREATE THE PANELS AND EVEN MAYBE PURSUE THE BIRD VIEWING PLATFORM AS WELL.

OK, SO THESE? MR. REGAN WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.

SO THESE ARE THE INTERPRETIVE PANELS THAT WOULD TELL THE FULL STORY? THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. AND THIS IS TYPICALLY WHAT YOU SEE IN A PARK OR WHATEVER ELSE.

IS THERE A TIMELINE ON THAT EXPENDITURE? IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE A DEADLINE TO SPEND THAT MONEY? WE DON'T HAVE ANY HARD DEADLINES, I THINK.

YOU KNOW, THE NEXT THING THAT WE WOULD BRING BACK WOULD WE WERE PLANNING TO BRING THE DESIGN OF THE PANELS BACK SO THE COMMISSION COULD SEE THAT BEFORE WE GO INTO PRODUCTION.

I'VE SEEN THEM, ACTUALLY, THEY JUST WERE SENT A DRAFT OF SENT OVER TODAY, SO THEY LOOK REALLY NICE. SO I'M EXCITED TO PRESENT THAT.

I THINK IF IT'S THE WILL, WE CAN GO BACK AND OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC INPUT.

IT WON'T AFFECT MAJOR TIMELINES.

IT MAY PUSH IT OUT A FEW MONTHS, BUT FISH ISLAND PRESERVE IS OPEN RIGHT NOW TO THE PUBLIC SO THEY CAN ACCESS IT.

SO, OK. AND THEN A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS I JUST, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT THE STAFF HAS DEVOTED TO THIS.

I DO ALSO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC INPUT, BUT I JUST WANT TO UNDERSCORE AT THE RISK OF IT, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT THIS IS A LOGO AND THAT THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT STAFF TIME AND EVEN MY TIME SPENT ON THIS ISSUE WHEN WE HAVE REALLY PRESSING ISSUES IN OUR CITY RESILIENCE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ALL THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT MOBILITY.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO PROLONG THIS PROCESS BY TABLING IT.

IT NEEDS TO BE.

IT JUST NEEDS TO, A DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE, AND A LOGO DESIGNED BY A COMMITTEE CAN BECOME VERY CUMBERSOME AND LENGTHY, AND THE PRODUCT CAN OFTEN END UP BEING MUCH WORSE THAN A LOGO THAT'S DESIGNED BY A FEW PEOPLE.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THOSE CAUTIONARY STATEMENTS IN CONSIDERING THIS MOTION.

ONE IDEA I HAD AS YOU WERE SPEAKING ON THIS, THAT YOU HAVE THE PANELS DESIGNED OR, YOU KNOW, A ROUGH DRAFT.

ONCE WE SEE IT, WE COULD ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THERE'S A TIME LAG BETWEEN APPROVING IT AND GETTING THE PANELS, I'M THINKING WE COULD PUT PDFS ON THE WEBSITE.

PEOPLE COULD DOWNLOAD THAT INFORMATION, PRINT IT OUT.

WHEN THEY'RE WALKING AROUND, THEY COULD GET A SENSE OF THE INFORMATION PRIOR TO ACTUALLY DOING THE PANELS. SO THAT WOULD BE A SUGGESTION THAT.

OK, I'VE MADE A MOTION.

IT IS HANGING OUT HERE WAITING FOR A SECOND.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND I'VE GOT A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

TRACY UPCHURCH? YES.

ROXANNE HORVATH? YES.

JOHN VALDES? YES. BARBARA BLONDER? NO.

NANCY SIKES-KLINE? YES. THANK YOU.

THE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU, MR. FRANKLIN.

DON'T GO FAR, PUT ON YOUR NEXT HAT.

[10.B. Approval of an agreement between the City and Florida Power and Light to switch to LED lighting for streetlights throughout the City. (R. Franklin, Director Public Works)]

AND THIS IS ITEM 10B APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND FP&L TO SWITCH TO LED LIGHTING FOR STREET LIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

YES, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

AND ALSO, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR FP&L, FP&L REPRESENTATIVE SCOTT RAPP IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

HE'S DONE THIS CONVERSION AND IN THE COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT CITIES AND HIS HIS AREA HERE, THE BEACH HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH THIS CONVERSION.

WE'RE ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING MUNICIPALITIES TO DO IT, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE DETAILS OF IT.

AND IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT, THEN STAFF WILL GET THE AGREEMENT FILLED OUT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONVERSION THAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE SPRINGTIME.

SO FP&L OWNS A LARGE AMOUNT OF LIGHTS IN THE CITY OF ST.

[01:00:01]

AUGUSTINE. IT'S AROUND 4500 LIGHTS.

THIS IS JUST A GRAPHIC SHOWING ALL THEIR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

WE DO HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, IN THE HISTORIC AREA IN THE HP DISTRICTS, WE DO PLAN TO GO TO HARB THIS WEEK TO GO OVER WHAT THE DIFFERENT FIXTURES LOOK LIKE.

BUT TONIGHT IT'S IMPORTANT TO STARTS REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT TO MOVE FORWARD AT A THREE THOUSAND KELVIN TEMPERATURE, WHICH IS THIS IS A COMPARISON SCALE.

THREE THOUSAND IS THE LOWEST KELVIN TEMPERATURE THAT WE CAN DO THE LED CONVERSION THAT FPL ALLOWS.

SO I'M SORRY, SO IN THIS COMPARISON SCALE.

CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHERE THE 3000 IS? SURE. THREE THOUSAND IS HERE.

I CAN'T SEE THAT.

OH, THAT'S YEAH, GOD.

GOT IT. GOT IT. GOT IT. THANK YOU.

NO, NO, NO. AND THEN OUR WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ARE HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM, AND THEY'RE SOMEWHERE. THEY'RE SOMEWHERE IN THE 2000-2700 TEMPERATURE RANGE.

BUT THAT IS THE STICKING POINT.

WE COULD GO UP TO 4000 KELVIN, BUT AFTER REVIEWING, STAFF THOUGHT THAT THREE THOUSAND WAS MORE APPROPRIATE.

HARB, FOR INSTANCE, THE CITY OWN LIGHTS THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE DID DISTRICT THEY'RE 2800 KELVIN, BUT THEY ARE ALSO LED LIGHTS.

AND HERE I HAVE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF.

EXISTING LIGHTS, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, SO THE EXISTING IS YOUR 2200, WHICH IS THE HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM, WHICH WE'RE PHASING OUT OF THE MIDDLE IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING FROM STAFF, WHICH IS THREE THOUSAND KELVIN.

OR YOU COULD GO UP TO FOUR THOUSAND KELVIN.

THE BENEFITS OF THIS IS THAT THIS PLAN REDUCES POWER CONSUMPTION.

353 THOUSAND KILOWATTS PER YEAR.

THAT'S ABOUT 248 METRIC TONS OF CO2 EVERY YEAR, OR THE EQUIVALENT OF REMOVING 53 CARS FROM THE ROAD. THE COST SAVINGS TO THE CITY WITH THIS PLAN IMPLEMENTED IS APPROXIMATELY $5000 A YEAR AS WELL.

MAY I ASK A QUESTION? IS THERE ANYTHING IN BETWEEN THE 2200 AND THREE THOUSAND.

THE LOWEST THAT FPL IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WILL GO IS THREE THOUSAND.

WHAT, WHY? WELL, I MEAN, WE'RE A HISTORIC DISTRICT, WE'RE SENSITIVE TO HOT SPOTS, THIS IS A LOT OF LIGHT. THIS IS A LOT AND WE ARE HERE.

THIS SHOULD BE GOING TO HARB.

NO, THIS NO THE LIGHT AND I HAVEN'T SEEN.

UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEE.

AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE THREE THOUSAND IS AT THIS POINT.

THAT'S RIGHT. WELCOME.

YES, SURE IT IS.

IT'S QUITE A JUMP.

THIS IS MR. THRAPP WITH FPL TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF.

THANK YOU. RUBIN AND MARCUS HAVE BEEN GREAT TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION THERE.

AS FAR AS WHY DON'T WE HAVE 2800 OR TWO THOUSAND KELVIN TEMPERATURE? THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION REGULATES FPL.

AND SO WHAT WE OFFER TO ONE CUSTOMER, WE HAVE TO OFFER TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS.

SO WE HAVE A APPROVED CATALOG THAT HAS ALL OF OUR FIXTURES.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THREE THOUSAND KELVIN IS THE LOWEST THAT WE OFFER IN A STREET LIGHT AS FAR AS ROADWAY FIXTURES GO.

AND ALSO, THE IES DOESN'T REALLY RECOMMEND GOING MUCH BELOW THAT FOR STREET LIGHTS.

IES STANDS FOR ILLUMINATING ENGINEERING SOCIETY, JUST FOR SAFETY, YOU KNOW, FACTORS AS FAR AS WHEN THERE'S PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AND ALSO VEHICLE TRAFFIC.

ONCE YOU GET BELOW THREE THOUSAND, THE ABILITY TO SEE AND PERCEIVE COLORS AND THINGS AND OBJECTS THAT HAVE YOU IS GREATLY REDUCED.

THANK YOU. SO WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS 2200, AND YOU DON'T OFFER THAT? CORRECT. AND THE LED IS ONLY THREE THOUSAND KELVIN IS WHAT WE OFFER.

HOW DID WE GET IT? HOW IS IT THAT WE HAVE IT.

RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM, SO THE TWO DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES YOU'RE TRYING TO SWITCH TO LED TO SAVE MONEY.

YEAH, CORRECT. SO FOR THE LOWEST USE? OK, SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ALLOWANCES FOR THE NATION'S OLDEST CITY? UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE GOT TO ABIDE BY THE RULES SET BY THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION, AND THERE'S NO EXEMPTIONS TO THAT.

LIKE I SAY, WE WHAT WE OFFER ONE ENTITY WE HAVE TO OFFER TO EVERYONE.

AND RIGHT NOW, THE HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM IS IT'S ABOUT A 2200 KELVIN LIKE, RUBEN SAID, COLOR TEMPERATURE. AND RIGHT NOW WE OFFER THREE THOUSAND.

THAT'S THE LOWEST WE DO HAVE.

AS FAR AS VARIANCE IN COLOR TEMPERATURE, THERE'S ACTUALLY ABOUT A TWO OR THREE HUNDRED

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COLOR VARIANCE, SO SOMETIMES THE THREE THOUSAND CAN ACTUALLY BE A 2800 KELVIN COLOR TEMPERATURE. THE NAKED EYE DOES NOT REALLY PERCEIVE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TWENTY SEVEN HUNDRED AND THREE THOUSAND KELVIN TEMPERATURE, WHICH I THINK THE CITY OWN.

LIGHTS NOW ARE LEDS, AND THERE ARE ABOUT TWENTY SEVEN TO EIGHT HUNDRED.

SO THE UNTRAINED EYE NAKED EYE IS NOT GOING TO SEE THAT DIFFERENCE.

YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE FROM THE HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM TO THE THREE THOUSAND KELVIN NOW, BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO HAVE THAT WARM FEEL TO IT.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT BRIGHT WHITE COLOR THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET, THAT'S 4K.

SO YOU STILL HAVE THE AMBIANCE AND THE, YOU KNOW, ALSO THAT WARM FEEL FROM THE LIGHT.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO LIGHTS OVER ON CORDOVA THAT ARE AT FOUR THOUSAND.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

YES, MA'AM. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD HAVE THOSE PUT IN AT THREE THOUSAND SO WE COULD SEE IT AND FEEL WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THROUGHOUT THE CITY? THAT WOULD BE A BIG HELP.

YES, WE COULD. ABSOLUTELY, YOU KNOW, SWITCH THOSE OUT TO THREE THOUSAND.

I CAN WORK WITH RUBEN ON THOSE.

WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW LEDS THAT ARE AT THREE THOUSAND KELVIN ALREADY THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND ALSO THE ST.

JOHNS COUNTY THAT ARE IN LIKE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY I COULD GIVE YOU ADDRESS AND LOCATION OF THOSE PROJECTS.

MAJORITY OF ALL, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IN ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY AND THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE IS ALL LEDS THAT FPL HAS INSTALLED.

AND SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF EXAMPLES THAT ARE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

SO, YEAH, I CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE A LIST.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.

BUT ALSO IF YOU COULD SWITCH THAT OUT BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT DOWNTOWN, IT WOULD GIVE US A BETTER FEEL FOR THAT.

ARE THEY NEAR EACH OTHER OR ARE THEY? THEY'RE ACTUALLY ON.

CORRECT. YOU'RE RIGHT BY MOJO'S BARBECUE RIGHT DOWN.

ONE FACES THE STREET, THE CEMETERY AND THE OTHER ONE FACES THE PARKING.

SO YOU WOULD GET A SENSE OF THE HOTNESS OF IT.

EXACTLY. OR LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVENESS OF IT.

BECAUSE I MEAN, WE THINK OF I MEAN, THE WAY YOU'RE PRESENTING IT IS IT'S ONE LIGHT HERE AND ONE LIGHT HERE, BUT PUT TOGETHER IN TOTAL, RIGHT? AND THEN THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE BEACH HAS ACTUALLY INSTALLED BOTH 4K AND 3K.

I PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION TO REUBEN AS WELL, SO THOSE ARE ACTUALLY OUT IN THE FIELD.

ALREADY INSTALLED DOWN A1A, WE HAVE 4K AND THEN ON OCEAN BOULEVARD, THERE'S ACTUALLY 3K FIXTURES. SO BOTH OF THOSE ARE WORKING EXAMPLES.

YEAH, DO WE HAVE 3K ON HIGHWAYS? DO WE HAVE 3KS ON HIGHWAYS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US? WE HAVE 3KS ON THE HIGHWAYS? SOME HIGHWAYS WE DO HAVE 3K ON; CORRECT.

WELL, I WOULD. I DON'T REALLY WANT TO MAKE A DECISION UNTIL WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE. I HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS FOR MR. FRANKLIN, TOO. OK, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE SHOWING THE VARIOUS TEMPERATURES OF KELVIN'S THAT ONE? MAYBE IT'S JUST ME AND MY EYESIGHT, BUT THE GLARE THAT COMES FROM THE LOWER TEMPERATURE ONES IS REALLY DISTURBING TO ME.

IT I FIND IT A SAFETY FEATURE WHEN I'M DRIVING, AND I THINK THAT THESE LED LIGHTS HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS AND YOU CAN GET THAT GLARE DOWN AND YOU CAN DIRECT THE WHERE THAT LIGHT IS SEEN BY CHOOSING THE RIGHT FIXTURES, WHICH I WANT TO SPEAK TO IN A MINUTE. POSITIVE SIDE OF THINGS SAVING $5000 A YEAR IS NOT INSIGNIFICANT.

THE UPFRONT COST IS ZERO TO US.

WE ARE LOWERING OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT BY HOW MANY METRIC TONS PER YEAR? 240? OKAY. 248.

THAT IS REDUCING OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT.

ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES IN THIS CITY IS THE RESPONSE TO CARBON POLLUTION IN THE FORM OF FLOODING OF SEA LEVEL RISE.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE DOING A BIGGER PART OF REDUCING THAT.

OF COURSE, CONCURRENT WITH OUR KEEPING OUR HISTORIC, YOU KNOW, OUR HERITAGE, OUR NATURE, OUR THAT AMBIANCE, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

BUT THESE ISSUES ARE ALSO IMPORTANT TO US.

BECOMING MORE SUSTAINABLE IS ALSO IMPORTANT AS CUTTING COSTS IS ALSO IMPORTANT AND NOT HAVING TO PUT IN THE UPFRONT PURCHASE COST OR MODIFICATION FOR THESE IS IS SIGNIFICANT.

I WOULD ADD THAT I WOULD ASK STAFF IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS TO WORK TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE TO FIND HOUSINGS OR WHATEVER THAT ARE MORE DOWNWARD FACING AND ARE SHIELDED TO REDUCE SIDE GLARE SO THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY AIMING THE LIGHT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND DRIVER SAFETY AND VISIBILITY, AND, YOU KNOW, LEAST OF ALL THE NIGHT FRIENDLY SKY, WHICH I DON'T GET TO SEE STARS HERE, INCREASINGLY EVERY SINGLE YEAR, I SEE FEWER AND FEWER STARS.

AND THAT'S NOT BECAUSE THE STARS HAVE GONE ANYWHERE.

SO THOSE ARE THE POINTS I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION.

OK, COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE A PROPOSED AGENDA, MR.

[01:10:01]

FRANKLIN. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THE PROPOSAL TO POSTPONE THIS? I'M NOT 100 PERCENT SURE WE CAN POSTPONE THE AGREEMENT.

WE WERE BANGING UP AGAINST A DEADLINE OF DECEMBER 31ST BEFORE FPL MOVES FORWARD WITH THE LED CONVERSIONS WITHOUT INPUT FROM THE CITY.

I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A.

NOT SURE, SCOTT, IF YOU CAN? THANK YOU, RUBEN.

STARTING JANUARY 1ST OF 2022, WE'RE CHANGING OUR FPL OFFERING, OUR CATALOG, SO THE STYLES OF FIXTURES THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO OFFER IS GOING TO CHANGE.

SO RIGHT NOW, THE CITY AND HARB HAS THE ABILITY TO PICK OUT OF OUR CATALOG, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS ESTHETICS GO AND COLOR TEMPERATURE AFTER JANUARY 1ST, THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE GREATLY REDUCED. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CHANGES COMING.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

IF I MAY ASK A QUESTION, IS THIS AN ALL OR NOTHING DEAL? IF WE CHOSE TO FOREGO UPGRADING THE LIGHTS IN CERTAIN PARTS OF HP AND GOING AHEAD AND USING DOING THE UPGRADES TO THE BULK OF THE CITY, IS THAT A NONSTARTER? I MEAN, THE END OF THE DAY, HP IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT, THE HISTORIC PART OF THE CITY WHERE I AGREE WITH MARTY GOULD YEARS AGO, HE SAID, LIGHTS IMPORTANT, OF COURSE.

MARTY ALSO SAID DIRTY BUILDINGS WERE IMPORTANT, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING BECAUSE IT WAS HISTORIC.

BUT YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION IS AN HP 3000 KELVIN IS A LITTLE BIT BRIGHT.

I LIKE THE YELLOW LIGHT.

BUT HAVING SAID THAT, OUTSIDE OF THESE SPECIFIC HISTORIC AREAS, I THINK THREE THOUSAND IS FINE, MAYBE EVEN HOTTER THAN THAT.

AND, COMMISSIONER, SO WE HAVE WHEN WE BUILD NEW ROADS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, THE HIPPOLYTA STREET, TREASURY STREET, SPANISH STREET, THOSE ARE ALL CITY OWNED LIGHTS.

WE DID GO TO HARB FOR THOSE AND WE THERE ARE LEDS, BUT THERE ARE TWO THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED KELVIN.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT IS.

YOU COULD MAKE A POLICY DECISION THAT ANY PROJECTS IN THE CITY, WE INSTALL OUR OWN LIGHTS AND MAINTAIN THEM.

AND, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF FPL AND WE JUST PAY THE ENERGY BILL, YOU COULD GO DOWN THAT ROAD AND THEN HAVE OUTSIDE OF THE HP DISTRICTS, HAVE FPL MAINTAIN THOSE LIGHTS.

BUT, MR. FRANKLIN.

SO THE LIGHTS THAT WE, WE THE CITY HAVE PLACED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ARE AT TWO THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED? TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED KELVIN. AND THESE ARE GOING TO BE 3000? YES. I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE A MOTION, PLEASE, THAT WE APPROVE THIS LED LIGHTING CHANGE OUT CONTRACT BETWEEN CITY AND FPL, AND THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO DO THE RESEARCH AND HELP US MAKE THE BEST CHOICES FOR ENSURING THAT THE LIGHTING IS COMMENSURATE WITH THE THE LOCATION IN OUR HISTORY.

I SECOND THAT.

IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR YOUR PURPOSES? YES. OK. IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WILL JUST SAY THAT THIS MAKES ME VERY ANGRY TO HAVE YOU COME AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE LIKE THIS WITH THIS TYPE OF LANGUAGE AND THESE SORTS OF CHOICES, AND THAT IF WE DON'T MAKE THIS DECISION TONIGHT AND GO ALONG WITH IT, THEN IN JANUARY, WE WON'T HAVE THE CHOICES WE HAVE.

I SERIOUSLY DO NOT APPRECIATE BEING PUT IN THIS POSITION OVER SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS THIS MATTER. AND WE HAVE ALL WE HAVE A HISTORIC ARCHITECT, A REVIEW BOARD THAT DOES REVIEW LIGHTING.

IT IS PART OF IT IS A THING WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

YES, IT IS. IT'S A THING.

AND I JUST CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH HOW UNHAPPY I AM WITH BEING PUT IN THIS POSITION.

THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT.

SEEING NONE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

BARBARA BLONDER? YES.

ROXANNE HORVATH? YES.

JOHN VALDES. YES.

NANCY SIKES-KLINE? NO. TRACY UPCHURCH? YES. THANK YOU.

THE AGREEMENT IS APPROVED.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENTLEMEN.

[11.A. Legislative update, for information only, no presentation. (I. Lopez, City Attorney)]

WE ARE ON ITEM 11A.

ANYTHING THAT THANK YOU.

THAT'S FOR INFORMATION.

WE'RE NOW MS. GALAMBOS ON ITEMS 12A.

ITEM 11A, EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.

IS THAT THE LEGISLATIVE? YES. I HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO SAY ON THAT.

IF YOU DON'T MIND IF I COULD ASK OUR STAFF TO TALK WITH THE FOLKS THAT WE HAVE.

KEEP TABS ON THESE, I'M SORRY, LEGISLATIVE ISSUES.

THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT REALLY IMPACT US SIGNIFICANTLY, NOT A COUPLE.

SEVERAL. ARE YOU READY FOR A LIST, MISS LOPEZ? COMMISSIONER BLONDER, ARE YOU GOING TO BE REFERRING TO THE TABLE OR SEPARATE ADDITIONAL BILLS? OK, YEAH, JUST TO THE TABLE, I PROBABLY GOT SIX.

[01:15:05]

AND IS THIS AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO THIS, MR. MAYOR? OK. HB 403 THE LOCAL ORDINANCES PREEMPTION.

I'D LIKE TO KEEP TAB ON THAT ONE.

THE HB 323, SB 494 DERELICT VESSELS.

NOT SURE WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.

SB 518, THE RESIDENTIAL HOME PROTECTION AND TREE REMOVAL.

THAT HAS BEEN PROBLEMATIC IN SOME CASES, SO I JUST WANT TO SEE WHICH SIDE OF THIS ISSUE THEY'RE ON WITH THAT WHEN WITH SB 518.

ARE YOU READY FOR THE NEXT THREE? OKAY, GREAT, THANKS.

HB 569 AND SB 620, THIS IS A BIG ONE.

THE BUSINESS DAMAGES CAUSED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IS A MASSIVE PREEMPTION EFFORT.

IF I'VE GOT THAT RIGHT AND IS BEING FOUGHT BY THE LEAGUE OF CITIES.

HB 691, SB 690.

THESE ARE RESILIENCE RELATED ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING COMMUNICATIONS, AND I WOULD SUPPORT THAT MYSELF.

AND THEN FINALLY, HB 6025 AND SB 316, I WOULD ALSO SUPPORT, AND THIS IS THE REPEAL OF LAST YEAR'S PREEMPTION ON TREE PRUNING, REMOVAL AND SO FORTH.

ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO REGAIN SOME TRACTION ON PREEMPTION.

THANK YOU. OK, SO FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES HAD I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR CALL-INS.

THEY DO WEBINARS, THEY'RE DOING ANOTHER ONE ON AND I BELIEVE THE 16TH.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO SIGN UP AND LISTEN IN =.

IT'S NOT A ZOOM.

IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ON YOUR PHONE AND YOU CAN LISTEN TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AND THEY'RE REPORTING OUT AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT FIGHTING AT THIS POINT YET.

THEY ARE WATCHING AND WORKING.

I VIEW SENATE BILL 620, SPONSORED BY SENATOR HUDSON.

IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST ONEROUS OF ALL THE, I KNOW, I HEAR THAT CHUCKLE, BUT ACTUALLY THE INTENT THERE IS TO TIE THE HANDS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT ONCE AND FOR ALL.

AND IT'S SOMETHING, IT'S BEING LIKENED TO, WELL, ALL THE MORE ONEROUS THAN BURT HARRIS, BUT IT'S SORT OF A BURT HARRIS ACT MOVE.

AND THERE'S A REASONABLE PART TO IT IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO DO, PASS ORDINANCES THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT BUSINESSES.

SO THERE'S THAT THAT'S NOT UNREASONABLE.

SO THAT'S WHY FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AT THIS POINT IS NOT FIGHTING THE BILL, BUT HOPING TO NARROW ITS SCOPE BECAUSE IT'S A REALLY BROAD RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT IS REALLY THE REPORT THAT I HAVE, BUT I THINK IT'S THIS IN SESSION IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT SESSIONS WE'VE EVER HAD.

JUST BECAUSE THE BOLDNESS OF IN THE APPROACH TO TIE THE HANDS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS BEYOND ANYTHING THAT I WOULD HAVE EVER IMAGINED IN MY WILDEST DREAM.

SO I HOPE YOU GUYS WILL GET INVOLVED THIS YEAR.

I KNOW FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES IS PROVIDING ALL KINDS OF WONDERFUL TOOLS FOR YOU TO PARTICIPATE. AND CERTAINLY, MAYOR, I KNOW YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE REDISTRICTING.

I THINK THAT'S EQUALLY IMPORTANT.

I THINK IT'S OFTEN MISSED HOW IMPORTANT REDISTRICTING IS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE REDISTRICTING IS GOING TO GO AND DO WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO DO WITHOUT INPUT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF MY SENSE.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S KIND OF MY UPDATE, BUT I BELIEVE I THINK THIS MS. LOPEZ, YOU SEND THE FORWARD THOSE EMAILS OUT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD ABOUT IN THE PAST, BUT I THINK I GOT ONE THIS MORNING ABOUT THE 16TH.

YES, I CAN FORWARD AS MUCH.

I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYBODY GETS THEM.

REGARDLESS, I DON'T WANT TO DUPLICATE SO EVERYONE AT THE DAIS.

I DON'T MIND THE DUPLICATIONS.

OK. I DON'T MIND.

ALL RIGHT. EXTRA REMINDER AND PILES AND PILES OF EMAILS.

SO THANK YOU. FAIR ENOUGH.

I WILL FORWARD AGAIN, AND WE ARE COORDINATING WITH MS. JUAREZ ON WHICH BILLS APPEAR TO HAVE LEGS THAT MAY REALLY NEGATIVELY IMPACT US.

SHE DIDN'T HAVE A SENSE JUST YET, SHE SAID.

GIVE HER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND SHE'LL GET A BETTER SENSE OF WHERE THE VOTES ARE ALIGNING.

I DO. MY SENSE IS THAT IN THE SENSE IS THAT THIS BILL WILL PASS THIS CATCH ALL BILL AND SORT OF CATCH ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

SO I HAVE TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO IN PREPARATION.

IF WE HAVE ORDINANCES, THEY NEED TO BE PASSED, THEY NEED TO BE PASSED.

IF THEY'RE IN THE WAITING IN THE WINGS.

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IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, WE NEED TO DO IT NOW, JUST LIKE WE DID, AND THANK GOODNESS WE DID IT ON SHORT TERM RENTALS.

THANK GOODNESS WE DID IT BACK AND WAS IT 2014? WHEN WE DID WHAT WE DID? SO THANK YOU.

OK. I JUST WANT TO SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR CLARIFICATION AND EMPHASIS ON HOW IMPORTANT THESE ARE. THANK YOU.

WELL, IT'S FLUID, SO YOU KNOW.

THANK YOU. OK.

ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR DISCUSSION ON THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM 12, A ONE MS.

[12.A. Request for two appointments for three positions - Code Enforcement Adjustment and Appeals Board Request for two appointments - St. Augustine Firefighters' Pension Fund Board of Trustees Request for one appointment - Planning and Zoning Board]

GALAMBOS. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

I HAVE A THREE SEPARATE ITEMS FOR YOU TONIGHT.

THE FIRST ONE IS A REQUEST FOR APPOINTMENTS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS.

BOARD. I WANTED TO NOTE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THREE POSITIONS THAT WE NEED APPOINTMENTS FOR, BUT AS OF THE DEADLINE, WE RECEIVED TWO APPLICATIONS.

SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER BOTH OF THESE APPLICANTS.

MR. BEACH HAS A CURRENT BOARD MEMBER AND MS. GARRETT IS A WOULD BE A NEW APPLICANT.

OK. SO FORGIVE ME IF I'M DEPARTING FROM PAST PROCEDURE.

I'M DELIGHTED TO SEE MR. BEACH SERVE AGAIN AND GRATEFUL FOR HIS SERVICE.

AND SO ALL IN FAVOR OF REAPPOINTING MR. BEACH. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. THANK YOU. AND LIKEWISE I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH WITH MS. GARRETT. SHE'S A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. HER FAMILY'S BEEN INTIMATELY CONNECTED AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR HER WILLINGNESS TO DO THIS. AND SO WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE HER.

AND IF YOU'RE ALL IN FAVOR, WE'LL SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.