3.A. Presentation to Ryan Aiple, St. Augustine resident for his involvement in two potentially lifesaving incidents. (J. Michaux, Chief, St. Augustine Police Department)

[3.A. Presentation to Ryan Aiple, St. Augustine resident for his involvement in two potentially lifesaving incidents. (J. Michaux, Chief, St. Augustine Police Department)]

WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS, AND I'M GOING TO ASK POLICE CHIEF JENNIFER MICHAUX TO PLEASE COME FORWARD AND MAKE OUR FIRST PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS [INAUDIBLE].

CHIEF JENNIFER MICHAUX, [INAUDIBLE] POLICE DEPARTMENT THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. I'D LIKE TO CALL BEFORE YOU, MR. RYAN AIPLE.

SORRY, JEFF, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

DEAR MR. AIPLE I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR BEING AWARDED THE ST.

AUGUSTINE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD.

THIS AWARD IS PRESENTED TO A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY FOR OUTSTANDING SERVICE RENDERED TO THE POLICE TO THE ST.

AUGUSTINE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ITS COMMUNITY ON AUGUST 3RD 2021.

WHILE AT THE SUNOCO GAS STATION, YOU OBSERVED AN ELDERLY WOMAN SITTING NEAR THE DUMPSTER . APPROXIMATELY ONE HOUR LATER YOU NOTICED THE SAME WOMAN SLUMPED OVER AND UNRESPONSIVE ON THE CURB IN FRONT OF 10 ANDERSON STREET.

YOU IMMEDIATELY CALLED 911.

FIRE RESCUE RESPONDED AND TRANSPORTED THE WOMAN TO THE HOSPITAL.

IT WAS LATER DETERMINED THAT THE WOMAN WAS A MISSING PERSON FROM JACKSONVILLE WHO HAD LEFT THE HOSPITAL AGAINST MEDICAL ADVICE.

YOUR QUICK ACTION VERY POSSIBLY SAVED HER LIFE.

ON AUGUST 16, 2021 AT APPROXIMATELY ZERO ONE HUNDRED HOURS WHILE AT YOUR RESIDENCE, YOU OBSERVED SEVERAL FEMALES WALKING ON THE STREET AS THEY PASSED BY YOUR HOUSE, ONE OF THEM COLLAPSED. AT FIRST, YOU THOUGHT SHE WAS PLAYING AROUND AND SIMPLY INTOXICATED.

HOWEVER, HER FRIENDS REACTIONS LED YOU TO BELIEVE THERE WAS A SERIOUS PROBLEM.

HE THEN CALLED 911 AND BEGAN TO ADMINISTER CPR.

ONE OF THE WOMEN ADVISED THAT HER FRIEND HAD JUST INHALED HEROIN.

YOU CALLED FOR YOUR GIRLFRIEND, MS. LISA RUIZ, TO GET NARCAN.

MS. RUIZ ADMINISTERED ONE DOSE OF NARCAN AND CONTINUED, AND YOU CONTINUED CPR.

THE FIRST RESPONDING OFFICER, OFFICER SAM [INAUDIBLE], ADMINISTERED ANOTHER DOSE OF NARCAN AND TOOK OVER CPR.

THE WOMAN BEGAN TO MAKE GASPING SOUNDS BUT REMAINED UNRESPONSIVE.

OFFICER [INAUDIBLE] GAVE THE WOMAN A THIRD DOSE OF NARCAN.

SHE REGAINED CONSCIOUSNESS.

THE WOMAN WAS TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL BY A FIRE RESCUE WHERE SHE FULLY RECOVERED.

YOUR DEDICATION TO CIVIC DUTY AND COURAGEOUS ACTIONS AND ACTIONS REFLECT GREATLY UPON YOURSELF, AND IT IS IN KEEPING WITH THE HIGHEST TRADITIONS OF THE NATION'S OLDEST CITY.

CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR HUMANITARIANISM, SINCERELY JENNIFER MICHAUX.

[APPLAUSE] THANK YOU.

THERE'S THERE'S A PIECE OF INFORMATION I ALSO WANT TO ADD TO THIS.

I THINK MY SON WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS OLD, SO RYAN HAS BEEN DOING THIS ALL HIS LIFE.

MY SON. AS A TWO YEAR OLD DOES FELL IN A POOL AND RYAN DIDN'T HESITATE.

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YOU HAD TO BE TWELVE. I WAS IN FIFTH GRADE, JUMPED IN AND GOT MY SON OUT OF THE POOL, AND IT WAS WINTER TIME AND DIDN'T HESITATE, SO HE'S BEEN DOING THIS SINCE HE WAS IN FIFTH GRADE, SO HE DOESN'T STOP.

SO WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE HIM AS ONE OF OUR CITIZENS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO UP THERE AND TAKE A PICTURE.

[APPLAUSE] CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CHIEF MICHAUX, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE EFFORTS OF YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT AND RECOGNIZING MR. AIPLE AND, OF COURSE, MR. AIPLE WE CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR BEING THE OBVIOUS TYPE OF PERSON THAT YOU ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

[3.B. Certificate of Recognition 2021-05CR issued to The Limelight Theater in celebration of 30 years as St. Augustine's Community Theatre. (T. Upchurch, Mayor)]

OUR SECOND RECOGNITION IS ISSUED TO THE FOLKS AT THE LIMELIGHT THEATER.

THIS IS THEIR 30TH YEAR AS ST.

AUGUSTINE'S COMMUNITY THEATER, AND THEY PROVIDE AN ABSOLUTE WONDERFUL CULTURAL ENTERTAINMENT VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THIS IS JUST A VERY SIMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSION AND FOR THE CITY TO RECOGNIZE THEIR SUCCESS.

I BELIEVE THE BOARD PRESIDENT, MR. CHRIS MACEWAN, IS PRESENT.

MR. MACEWAN. HE'S PREPARED A SONG, IF YOU WOULD. [INAUDIBLE] WELL, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU, MAYOR UPCHURCH, VICE MAYOR AND ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, IT'S BEEN MY HONOR TO SERVE ON THE BOARD FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS AT THE LIMELIGHT FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS AS THE BOARD CHAIR.

I WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU IN THE COMMUNITY.

WITHOUT YOU, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE AS A COMMUNITY THEATER.

SO THANK YOU ALL AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO TO SUPPORT THE LIMELIGHT. THANKS AGAIN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU [APPLAUSE].

[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS OR FOR AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING]

OK, WE'RE NOW ON ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I HAVE SEVERAL CARDS.

I'M HAPPY TO ACCEPT OTHERS IF THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT HAS NOT SUBMITTED A CARD.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO AND STAFF WILL BRING IT UP HERE FOR US.

OUR FIRST SPEAKER THIS EVENING IS MR. ED SLAVIN.

EVENING. THANK YOU, MAYOR SLAVIN [INAUDIBLE] I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION THAT WE JUST HAD AT THE 3 O'CLOCK HOUR ON SUSTAINABILITY AND OCEAN LEVEL RISE.

AND I KNOW A LOT IS GOING TO COME FROM THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO SAVE OUR TOWN FROM THE RAVAGES OF OCEAN LEVEL RISE.

AND TO DO THAT, THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WE NEED TO DO IS GET THE ST.

AUGUSTINE NATIONAL HISTORICAL PARK AND NATIONAL SEASHORE.

LEGISLATION INTRODUCED IN CONGRESS WAS FIRST PROPOSED IN 1939 BY MAYOR WALTER FRASER WAS INTRODUCED IN CONGRESS, AND AT THE TIME, THE PEOPLE WHO OWNED ANASTASIA ISLAND SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE A THREAT TO THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE NEED TO IGNORE THOSE VOICES, THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO PRESERVE ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY THOUSAND ACRES OF LAND WE HAVE IN TWO COUNTIES ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY THOUSAND ACRES OF GOVERNMENT OWNED LAND, HALF OF WHICH SEVENTY THOUSAND ACRES OF WHICH WAS ACQUIRED BY

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THE ST. JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WHEN HENRY DEAN WAS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

NOW HE'S NOW THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY COMMISSION. HE LOVES THE NATIONAL PARK AND SEASHORE IDEA, AND WE NEED TO GET THIS GOING AND GET IT INTRODUCED AND PROCEED WITH GREAT VIGOR.

I WANT TO COMMEND THE HARB.

I ATTENDED A MEETING LAST WEEK WHERE THEY DESIGNATED OUR FOURTH LOCAL LANDMARK, A STRUCTURE ON DAVIS SHORES THAT THE AIR WAS WANTING TO DEMOLISH, AND THEY SAID NO UNANIMOUSLY. JUST AS THIS COMMISSION BY A FOUR TO ONE VOTE A FEW YEARS AGO VOTED TO PRESERVE THE STRUCTURE ACROSS THE STREET ON GRANADA STREET, IT'S NOW 34 GRANADA STREET.

IT WAS GOING TO BE DESTROYED BY LOUIS JOHN [INAUDIBLE] AND HARB RECOMMENDED, AND THE COMMISSION AGREED IT SHOULD BE PRESERVED AS A LOCAL LANDMARK.

I WAS DISAPPOINTED, THOUGH THERE WAS ANOTHER STRUCTURE 36 GRANADA STREET THAT WAS UP FOR A DEMOLITION PERMIT AT THE HARB MEETING AND I SUGGESTED A LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

THEY TALKED, THEY TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT THEY DIDN'T VOTE ON IT AND THEY DIDN'T DO ANY EX PARTE CONTACT DISCLOSURE.

SO I RECKON I MIGHT HAVE TO FILE AN APPEAL ON THAT, DEPENDING UPON WHAT YOU ALL DO TONIGHT ON THE PUD.

HOPEFULLY, YOU'LL TURN THE PUD DOWN, BUT LET ME JUST SAY THAT.

MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS IN THIS CITY, MOVED HERE NOVEMBER 5TH OF 1999.

THINGS WERE VERY DIFFERENT THEN.

FIRST TIME I EVER ATTENDED A CITY MEETING BACK IN APRIL OF 2005, I SPOKE OUT ON 15TH AMENDMENT CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUES AND.

THE DESTRUCTION OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN THIS TOWN WHERE WE WENT FROM 25 PERCENT TO 10 PERCENT BECAUSE OF CONSTANT ANNEXATIONS AT THE BEHEST OF DEVELOPERS AND CITY MANAGER AT THAT TIME, BILL HARRIS CAME UP TO ME AFTERWARDS AND SAYS I COULD HAVE YOU ARRESTED FOR DISORDERLY CONDUCT.

AND I LOOKED AT HIM AND I SAID, WELL, I COULD WRITE AN ARTICLE ABOUT YOU WON'T JUST ONE.

BUT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PROGRESS, AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU ALL FOR BEING A PART OF IT. PROUD TO BE PART OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. PROUD THAT WE'RE WORKING ON GLOBAL OCEAN LEVEL RISE.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR VOTE THE OTHER WEEK TO TURN DOWN A DEVELOPER.

I MEAN, THAT WAS MAGNIFICENT.

LET'S DO IT AGAIN TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. CHRIS FOLMAR. WELCOME.

GOOD EVENING, CHRIS FULMAR, I LIVE IN ST.

AUGUSTINE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AM SO TIRED OF DEVELOPERS BUYING PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THEN COMING TO THE COMMISSION FOR A PUD, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE ZONING LAWS THAT WERE IN PLACE WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.

I'M NOT SURE WHY WE BOTHER TO HAVE ZONING LAWS, AND IN THE SAME VEIN, THERE'S A PROPERTY AT HIPPOLYTA IN SPANISH, WHERE THE HISTORIC BUILDING THERE ACCIDENTALLY FELL OVER IN 2014.

THE BUILDING'S BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS.

I HAVE NEVER LIVED ANY PLACE THAT OPEN CONSTRUCTION PERMITS LASTED SO LONG.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I NOTICED.

WE'VE HAD OUR RESPITE FROM OVERWHELMING CROWDS.

SEPTEMBER WAS AWESOME.

NIGHTS OF LIGHT SEASON IS GOING TO BE VERY BUSY.

THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THOSE COMPLETE STREETS TO GOOD USE AND CLOSE HIPPOLYTA TO A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY WITH NOTHING BUT THE TROLLEYS GOING THROUGH DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON. COVID IS STILL HERE.

BE SAFE AND THIS HOLIDAY SEASON DURING NIGHTS OF LIGHTS.

BE PATIENT. BUY LOCAL AND TIP YOUR SERVICE STAFF.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. SEAN MORRISON.

WELCOME. HOW ARE YOU DOING? THE HISTORY OF THE OLDEST CITY IS BECOMING A FAIRY TALE.

IF IT DOESN'T FIT INTO YOUR STORY TIME BOOK, YOU SIMPLY REMOVE THOSE PAGES.

IF THE STORY NEEDS A LITTLE EMBELLISHMENT, YOU SIMPLY PIN IT IN DEUTERONOMY 21:22 KJV.

AND IF A MAN HAVE COMMITTED A SIN WORTHY OF DEATH AND HE IS TO BE PUT TO DEATH AND THEY'LL HANG HIM ON A TREE, HIS BODY SHALL SHALL NOT REMAIN THERE ALL NIGHT UPON THE TREE. BUT THOU SHALL IN ANY WISE BURY HIM THAT DAY.

THE BIBLE IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON ALL MATTERS OF WHICH IT SPEAKS.

HANGING IS A BIBLICAL PUNISHMENT.

ISAAC BARRETT WAS A MURDERER AND MET A MURDEROUS FATE ON THE NIGHT OF JUNE 6TH.

1897 BRUTALLY BLUDGEONED THE HOUSTON FAMILY, KILLING TWO OF THEM.

HE THEN MOVED ON TO ASSAULT A YOUNG GIRL BY THE NAME OF MAGGIE MR. HEWSON'S DAUGHTER. AFTER BEING IDENTIFIED, CAPTURED AND DETAINED, ISAAC BARRETT SIGNED A WRITTEN CONFESSION AND PROMPTLY THEREAFTER WAS HUNG BY THE NECK UNTIL DEAD.

MIGHT I ADD THAT WHILE DETAINED BY THE SHERIFF, HE OVERTOOK THE SHERIFF'S RIFLE AND HELD HIM AT GUNPOINT UNTIL THE SHERIFF'S BACKUP ARRIVED.

HIS CRIME, HIS CRIME AND RIGHTEOUS PUNISHMENT WERE COMMITTED NEAR ORANGE JAIL, FLORIDA, SOME 25 MILES FROM THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. WHY IS IT THAT THIS COMMISSION WOULD EVEN BE CONSIDERING A MURDERER'S MARKER IN THE CENTER OF OUR CITY? IF YOU WANTED TO MEMORIALIZE A MURDER OF YOUNG CHILDREN AND THE BLOODY BEATING OF A

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FAMILY AS THEY SLEPT, THE ASSAULT OF A YOUNG GIRL WOULD NOT MARKER BE BETTER SUITED WHERE THE CRIME ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

BY PLACING THIS MARKER IN THE PLAZA, YOU ARE LEADING THE PEOPLE THAT PATRONIZE OUR CITY TO BELIEVE THAT THIS CRIME HAPPENED HERE IN ST.

AUGUSTINE. WHY? WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO REOPEN THE HISTORY OF THE ANCIENT CITY? HAVEN'T YOU LOT DONE ENOUGH OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS? WHY WOULD YOU WISH TO MISLEAD THE UNEDUCATED INTO BELIEVING THAT THESE ARE HISTORICAL EVENTS FROM THIS CITY? I HAVE HEARD THE ARGUMENT THAT HIS CONFESSION WAS COERCED.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PROOF THOSE THAT SAY THIS, ARE THEMSELVES ATTEMPTING TO PUSH THEIR PENS INTO THE HISTORY BOOKS.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY FOR ANYONE TO MAKE THESE FALSE ALLEGATIONS TO HAVE ANY SORT OF FACTUAL BASED EVIDENCE THAT HE WAS EVEN IN THE SLIGHTEST WAY COERCED.

THIS ARGUMENT IS ABSOLUTELY HOGWASH AND TOTALLY FABRICATED TO PUSH THEIR OWN AGENDA.

JAMES BUTLER, PROFESSOR OF FLAGLER COLLEGE, WAS QUOTED IN SAYING THAT IT QUOTED IN SAYING THAT THIS WOULD DEPICT, AND I QUOTE, ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT TIMES IN AMERICAN HISTORY SO THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM IT.

HAVE DIALOG ABOUT IT AND UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE HERE AT THE POSITION THAT WE ARE IN SOCIETY. END QUOTE.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE WOULD AFFORD THE PEOPLE THIS OPPORTUNITY? THE VETERAN CENOTAPH THAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE SQUARE IN RESPONSE TO TERRORISTIC THREATS.

BUT THAT BUT THAT TRUE.

BUT THAT TRULY HISTORICAL MONUMENT DIDN'T FIT THE NARRATIVE OF THE HISTORY THAT THIS COMMISSION IS WRITING. EVEN THOUGH, UNLIKE THE MURDERER ISAAC BARRETT, THE ST.

AUGUSTINE BLUES WERE IN FACT HEROES FROM THIS CITY AND FOUGHT AND DIED FOR IT.

LINCOLN FIELD MUSEUM AND CULTURAL CENTER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GINA WILLIAMS PHILLIPS IS QUOTED IN SAYING THE POINT OF THIS MARKER IS RECONCILIATION.

WHY DO THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY OWE RECONCILIATION TO A MURDERER? WHAT IS THERE TO RECONCILE FOR THE EVENT DOES NOT EVEN HAPPEN IN THIS CITY, AND FURTHERMORE, NO ONE TO DATE NO ONE IS ALIVE TODAY THAT WAS PART OF THIS EVENT.

THIS MARKET DOES NOT BELONG ANYWHERE NEAR THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. IT IS NOT HISTORICALLY ACCURATE TO THE CITY, IT DIDN'T EVEN HAPPEN IN THE CITY. I URGE THIS COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THE FACTS, NOT THE FEELINGS OF A NEW ERA OF SOCIAL JUSTICE, WARRIOR AND FAKE WOKE CULTURE.

THESE PAST FEW YEARS HAVE BECOME PERSONAL ATTACKS ON THE CITY.

ANY FATE BUT SUBMISSION? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. DOUG RUSSO. WELCOME.

HELLO, DOUG RUSSO, ST.

AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA CANDIDATE FOR SCHOOL, BOARD DISTRICT THREE.

I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT BUBBA JUST SAID.

I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU A STORY IN CONTRAST.

THE SPRING OF 1776, GENERAL GEORGE WASHINGTON NEEDED A SPY TO GO BEHIND BRITISH ENEMY LINES ON THE 8TH OF SEPTEMBER IN 1776.

21 YEAR OLD NATHAN HALE, GRADUATE OF YALE COLLEGE, COMMISSIONED BY JOHN HANCOCK, STEPPED FORWARD TO VOLUNTEER.

HE WAS THE ONLY ONE TO DO SO.

ON THE 12TH OF SEPTEMBER 1776, NATHAN HALE ENTERED BEHIND ENEMY LINES DISGUISED AS A DUTCH SCHOOLTEACHER LOOKING FOR EMPLOYMENT.

NINE DAYS LATER, ON THE 21ST OF SEPTEMBER AND 1776, NATHAN HALE'S IDENTITY WAS DISCOVERED AND HE WAS IMMEDIATELY APPREHENDED AND ARRESTED.

THE VERY NEXT MORNING WITHOUT TRIAL, WITHOUT JURY, WITHOUT ANY REPRESENTATION WHATSOEVER, NATHAN HALE WAS LYNCHED BY THE BRITISH ENEMY.

NATHAN HALE'S FINAL AND ETERNAL WORDS WERE.

I REGRET THAT I HAVE BUT ONE LIFE TO LOSE FOR MY COUNTRY.

PATRIOTS LIKE NATHAN NATHAN HALE OUGHT TO BE REMEMBERED IN THE PUBLIC'S EYE.

BUT THE CITY WANTS TO TURN THAT AROUND AND DO SOME HONOR TO A MURDEROUS MAN THAT BUBBA JUST DESCRIBED.

MEN LIKE NATHAN HALE ARE TO BE PLACED IN THE PUBLIC'S EYE.

TELL HIS STORY.

LYNCHED WITHOUT A JURY.

WITHOUT TRIAL.

AND WOULD DO IT AGAIN.

THIS MAN WAS A PROTECTOR OF AMERICAN WOMEN, NOT A MURDERER.

THIS MAN WAS A PROTECTOR OF AMERICAN CHILDREN, NOT A MURDERER.

THIS MAN WAS A PATRIOT WHO PROTECTED AMERICANS, NOT A MURDERER.

IT'S UNBELIEVABLE THIS CITY WOULD EVEN CONSIDER, EXCEPT WHAT BUBBA HAD JUST SAID.

IT FITS YOUR CONSENSUS OF WHAT TYPE OF CITY YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE HERE.

ISAAC BARRETT MARKER WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL.

TO THE ANY SOCIETY AND ALL THE SUPPORTERS HAVE SAID WE HAVE SEEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

THEY ONLY BRING DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.

YOU CAN GO TO ANY ANY INNER CITY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE SUPPORTERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE SUPPORTERS OF BLM, THE SUPPORTERS OF PUSH BLACK, THE SUPPORTERS ANTIFA, THESE PEOPLE EVERYWHERE THEY GO, THEY ONLY WANT TO DESTROY.

THEY NEVER BUILD.

IN CONCLUSION, I WANT TO SAY, LET'S GO, BRANDON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I HAVE ONE MORE CARD, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AT THIS

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TIME DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT SEEING NO ONE ELSE? OUR LAST SPEAKERS MS. BJ. KALAIDI.

BJ KALAIDI WEST CITY LIMITS OF ST.

AUGUSTINE, 8 NEWCOMB AT THE OCTOBER 5TH 2021 BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH OCCURS AT THE END OF THEIR MEETINGS, IT WAS BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION. THOSE LIVING IN THE AREA OF 285 SOUTH HOLMES BOULEVARD DO NOT WANT HOME AGAIN THERE.

MAKES ONE WONDER IF BILL HARRIS, EX CITY MANAGER FOR CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE, HAS VOICED HIS OPINION ON THIS SITUATION.

WE ALL KNOW THAT KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.

WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE SOUTHWEST BLOCK AT KING STREET AND SOUTH PONCE DE LEON? SOUTHWEST BLOCK AT KING STREET AND SOUTH PONCE DE LEON, WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR 195 WEST KING STREET, WHICH WAS PURCHASED IN 2019 FOR ONE POINT TWO MILLION.

195 WEST KING STREET.

IT WOULD SURPRISE ME IF THIS LLC PAYS THE MINIMUM WATER BILL AT ONE DOLPHIN DRIVE.

MAYBE THE HOMELESS PERSON WHO STAYS AT HURSTON PARK, WHICH IS LOCATED AT U.S.

1 AND KING STREET, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER CAN ENLIGHTEN US ON FRIDAY NIGHT, OCTOBER 22ND, 2021 THE NOISE LEVEL DOWNTOWN REQUIRED AN OFFICER WITH A NOISE METER.

THEREFORE, AN OFFICER WITH A NOISE METER WAS NOT ABLE TO MONITOR THE NOISE AT 7 NEWCOMB, WHICH IS OWNED BY EMPLOYEES OF FLAGLER COLLEGE.

THIS IS NOT QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE CITY LIMITS OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE NIGHTLIFE, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT A BIG PROBLEM WITH THE NIGHTLIFE AND ABOUT THE NOISE.

AND I THINK THE PEOPLE IN WEST AUGUSTINE IN THE CITY LIMITS SHOULD HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE MONITORING DONE THERE.

BUT THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH MONEY IN OUR BUDGET FOR THESE THINGS, FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS TO BE EVERYWHERE IN THIS COUNTY.

I MEAN, IN THIS CITY, INCLUDING WHAT WE'VE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY LIMITS FROM THE COUNTY.

SO THESE THINGS ARE BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AND TO THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR TOWN AND WHAT IS ESPECIALLY HAPPENING AT THE INTERSECTION AT U.S.

1 AND KING STREET.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I HAVE NO CARDS, I DO NOT SEE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, SO AT THIS POINT, THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION IS COMPLETE.

[5. CONSENT AGENDA]

COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

PLEASE READ THE CONSENT AGENDA.

YES, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

THE CONSENT AGENDA CONTAINS THE FOLLOWING REMINDER OF UPCOMING MEETINGS NOVEMBER 8TH, 2021 5 O'CLOCK PM REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING DECEMBER 13 2021 FIVE O'CLOCK P.M.

REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 10, 2022 5:00 P.M.

REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING THERE'S AN APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PRIOR COMMISSION MEETINGS, INCLUDING THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING SEPT.

13. 2021, THE SPECIAL BUDGET MEETING, SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2021 AND A SPECIAL WORKSHOP MEETING SEPTEMBER 27TH 2021.

WE HAVE RELEASES OF LIENS FOR UNIT CONNECTION FEE MORTGAGES AT THE FOLLOWING.

ANNETTE POPE, 1009 WEST 9TH STREET.

KIMBERLY HERSEY AND MATTHEW [INAUDIBLE].

4581 AVENUE C.

WE HAVE A PROPOSED PROCLAMATION CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION AND RECOGNITION TO BE READ AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING, THE APPROVAL OF REQUEST FROM THE ORGANIZERS OF THE [INAUDIBLE] FESTIVAL FOR CERTIFICATES OF RECOGNITION.

WE HAVE AN ANNUAL STATUS REPORT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND APPROVAL OF AN INVOICE AND THE AMOUNT OF $928 FROM CAVENDISH PARTNERS PA FOR LEGAL SERVICES REGARDING MARLOW VS. THE CITY MATTER AND AN INVOICE, AND THE AMOUNT OF $413 FOR LEGAL SERVICES REGARDING THE MASSEY GENERAL CONTRACTOR INC.

VERSUS THE CITY MATTER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MOTION? MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HORVATH IS THEIR A SECOND.

SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VALDES, ALL IN FAVOR.

PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ANY OPPOSED. THANK YOU.

THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.

[7.C. Other Items Requiring Public Hearing Public Hearing Required - Resolution 2021-41: Application to the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity for a Community Development Block Grant for renovation of St. Francis Housing Crisis Center. (D. Radovich, Grant Administration Coordinator)]

WE ARE, I BELIEVE, ON ITEM SEVEN C A PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING RESOLUTION 2021-41.

GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, THIS EVENING, I HAVE

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THE THE HONOR OF INTRODUCING ONE OF OUR NEWEST NEWEST ADDITIONS TO THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE TEAM MS. DENISE RAVICH COMES TO US FROM THE EMORY UNIVERSITY CENTER IN ATLANTA, WHERE SHE WORKED WITH THE GRANTS PROGRAM WITH THE NIH.

SINCE JOINED US AS OUR GRANTS ADMINISTRATION COORDINATOR, AND SHE HAS JUMPED INTO ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS FEET FIRST WITH A PASSION AND DRIVE THAT I THINK YOU'LL SEE WITH THIS NEXT PROPOSED PROJECT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME.

GOOD EVENING. THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE PLANS TO APPLY BY NOVEMBER 2021 TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FOR CORONAVIRUS, FOR THE AMOUNT OF ONE MILLION TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE DOLLARS FOR THE COMPLETION OF A BUILDING RENOVATION AT THE FRANCIS ST.

FRANCIS HOUSE HOUSING CRISIS CENTER, WHICH WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SAFE, CLEAN SHELTER SPACE FOR THOSE EXPERIENCING UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS, PROVIDING A COMMUNITY VEHICLE TO LESSEN THE SPREADING OF COVID 19 AMONG THE HOMELESS.

YOU MAY RECALL THE CDBG COVID GRAND OPPORTUNITY WAS FIRST PRESENTED FOR THE COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION AT THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING HELD ON FEBRUARY 22ND, 2021.

TODAY IS A REQUIRED SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AND WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT THE PROJECT AND WE ASK THAT YOU PASS THE RESOLUTION TO ENABLE THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE TO APPLY FOR THIS GRANT OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU, AND I UNDERSTAND WE NEED TO HAVE A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.

IS THAT CORRECT? OK.

ARE THERE QUESTIONS? NO, I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO INTRODUCE OR BRING UP TO HEAR JUDITH DEMBOVSKY SO SHE CAN OFFER A FEW COMMENTS ON ST.

FRANCIS HOUSE. SHE'S EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ST.

FRANCIS HOUSE. GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

I AM HERE TO ASK THAT YOU PASS THIS RESOLUTION.

WE ARE SEEING A LOT MORE PEOPLE COME IN DUE TO COVID.

LOSS OF INCOME, THE AFFORDABILITY OF RENTAL PROPERTIES IN OUR FAIR CITY AND COUNTY IS OVER THE HEADS OF MOST OF OUR CITIZENS.

WE IN PREVIOUS YEARS HAD HAD A SMALL SLICE OF THE PIE THAT WERE PEOPLE COMING FROM OUT OF COUNTY SINCE COVID, WE HAVE PUT A LIMIT AND WE ARE NOW AT ABOUT 95 PERCENT, 32084, ZIP CODE IN OUR SHELTERS, WE ARE THE ONLY FULL TIME EMERGENCY OVERNIGHT SHELTER BETWEEN DAYTONA AND JACKSONVILLE.

MOST OF OUR HOMELESS POPULATION ARE UNSHELTERED.

WE NEED TO GET THEM OFF THE STREETS.

OUR PROGRAM PROMOTES HOUSING NOT ONLY HOUSING FIRST, BUT IT IS.

IT IS NOT HOUSING FIRST ONLY.

IT IS WRAPAROUND SERVICES AND GETTING PEOPLE TO OVERCOME THEIR OBSTACLES AND GET HOUSED.

AND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM HOUSED IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM AND HOUSE THEM, AND WE NEED TO EXPAND OUR SERVICES SO THAT WE ARE NOT LOSING OUR FOLKS TO OUT-OF-TOWN.

VERY GOOD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE QUESTIONS PRESENTERS, IF NOT, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS A MANDATORY PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION 2021-41 CONCERNING AN APPLICATION FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT.

IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ISSUE? I HAVE NO CARDS.

I SEE NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK, AND SO I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE PASS RESOLUTION 2021-41.

I SECOND. IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

NANCY SIKES-KLINE, YES.

THANK YOU. THE RESOLUTION IS APPROVED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[8.A.1. Ordinance 2021-24: Amends Section 29-5 of the City Code to provide the City with the ability to increase the Single-Family Unit Stormwater Utility Fee by Resolution. (M. Simpson, Director Financial Services)]

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM EIGHT A1, THIS IS ORDINANCE 2021 24.

MR. SIMPSON, WELCOME.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MARK SIMPSON, FINANCE DIRECTOR.

BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS ORDINANCE 2021-24 AND IS A PUBLIC READING OR A PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS AMMENDS CHAPTER 29 ARTICLE ONE SECTION 29-5 AND ALLOWS THE CITY TO ADJUST THE MONTHLY STORMWATER FEE VIA RESOLUTION VERSUS ORDINANCE IF THIS IS PASSED THIS EVENING.

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THIS GIVES US THE MECHANISM TO ADJUST ALL OF OUR UTILITY FEES, BE A RESOLUTION.

IT'S MORE UNIFORM AND CONSISTENT, AND AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE WILL BRING ADDITIONAL FEE INCREASES FOR STORMWATER AND WATER AND SEWER RATES TO THE BOARD FOR OUR FISCAL YEAR 22 BUDGET. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS THE SECOND READING IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

ARE THERE QUESTIONS OF MR. SIMPSON? SEEING NONE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE 2021-24.

I HAVE ONE CARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AT THIS POINT, I HAVE ONE SPEAKER MS. BJ KALAIDI.

BJ KALAIDI, WEST CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE IN THE CITY LIMITS 8 NEWCOMB.

ORDINANCE 202124 SECTION 95 NOT 29-5 PARENTHESES C, THIS LANGUAGE SHOULD STATE THE SINGLE FAMILY UNIT WILL BE ADJUSTED NOT MAY BASED ONLY ON THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX.

THE WORDING IS IMPORTANT.

STRIKE THE WORDS QUOTE OR OTHER FINANCIAL NEEDS OF THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

END QUOTE LEAVING THIS LANGUAGE IN THIS ORDINANCE BURDENS THOSE WHO DO NOT CEMENT DRIVEWAYS, ET CETERA.

INSTEAD OF CHARGING THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO CREATE STORMWATER WATER PROBLEMS, NUMBER ONE QUESTION. HOW MANY PROPERTY OWNERS CURRENTLY PAY THE MINIMUM ON THEIR WATER BILLS, WHICH INCLUDES TRASH AND STORMWATER CHARGES? NUMBER TWO QUESTION WHAT IS THE REVENUE THE CITY WILL NOT RECEIVE BY NOT INCREASING THE WATER BILLS OF THOSE CURRENTLY PAYING THE MINIMUM? NUMBER THREE.

WHAT IS THE CITY DOING? THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS AND RESILIENCY, AND I'M GOING TO KEEP ON BRINGING THIS UP.

NUMBER THREE, WHAT IS THE CITY DOING ABOUT SEPTIC TANK VULNERABILITY OF PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS OF ST.

AUGUSTINE? AND CAN ANY OF YOU NAME WHERE THOSE PLACES ARE EXCEPT ON DAVID SHORES? I KNOW OF THREE OTHERS SOUTH DIXIE RAMBLA UP NORTHWEST SECTION AND.

RIVER ROAD, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVEN KNOW WHERE THOSE ARE.

I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THAT SOME OF THESE ADDRESSES THAT ARE ON SEPTIC AND WHEN YOU GO TO FRIDAY REVIEWS, A LOT OF THESE DEVELOPERS ARE COMING IN AND THEY DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY TO GET ON OUR SEWER.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD STOP THAT IMMEDIATELY.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO DEVELOP IN THE CITY LIMITS BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RESILIENCY, THEN TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN'T DO IT UNLESS THEY PAY TO HOOK UP TO OUR SEWER SYSTEM.

SO THAT'D BE ONE THING TO START ON THE RESILIENCY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ORDINANCE 2021-24? SEEING NO ONE.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

COMMISSIONERS IS THERE A MOTION? MAYOR I MOVE WE PASS ORDINANCE 2021-24 ON SECOND READING, READING READ BY TITLE ONLY PASSED, SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, AMENDING SECTION 29-5 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE, PROVIDING FOR STORM WATER UTILITY FEE RATE INCREASES BY ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.

PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CODE OF THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONERS FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

NANCY SIKES-KLINE YES.

JOHN VALDES YES. ROXANNE HORVATH YES.

BARBARA BLONDER YES.

TRACY UPCHURCH YES.

THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE PASSES ON SECOND READING MR. THANK YOU, MR. SIMPSON, VERY MUCH.

MR. DAVID BERTRAM COMING FORWARD WHERE ON ITEM EIGHT A2 ORDINANCE 2021-25 PERTAINING TO

[8.A.2. Ordinance 2021-25: Amends the zoning of 36 Granada Street (CL-1) and 8 DeSoto Place (RG-1) to Planned Unit Development (PUD). (D. Birchim, Director Planning and Building)]

ZONING AT 36 GRANADA STREET AND 8 DESOTO PLACE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

ORDINANCE 2021-25 AMENDS THE ZONING OF 36 GRANADA STREET FROM COMMERCIAL LOW ONE TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

AND IT AMENDS THE ZONING OF 8 DESOTO SOTO PLACE FROM RESIDENTIAL GENERAL ONE ALSO TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT THIS IS THE 36TH GRANADA PUD.

IT INCORPORATES BOTH PROPERTIES, ONE OF WHICH IS A IS THE FORMER CORAZON THEATER, AND THE OTHER IS A PARKING LOT ON DESOTO PLACE.

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THE USE IS ALLOWED IN THE PUD INCLUDE ALL OF THE USES IN THE CL1 ZONING DISTRICT AND IT ALLOWS FOR RESTAURANTS WITH MORE THAN 100 SEATS.

AND IT ALLOWS A FULL LIQUOR LICENSE FOR THE RESTAURANT USE, ALL OF WHICH WILL BE AT 36 GRANADA STREET.

THAT PORTION OF THE PUD.

THE 8 DESOTO PORTION WILL BE LIMITED TO A PARKING LOT.

TATTOO SHOPS AND STANDALONE BARS ARE NOT ALLOWED AND SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN THE PUD.

THERE ARE ALSO LIMITATIONS ON AMPLIFIED MUSIC.

AND LIMITATIONS ON LARGE EVENTS THAT ARE DEFINED IN THE PUD.

THE FORMER MOVIE THEATER AT 36 GRANADA WILL BE REDEVELOPED AND THERE IS A PARKING LOT ON BOTH PROPERTIES.

WITH DRIVEWAY ACCESS FROM GRANADA STREET, AS PER THE ATTACHED SITE PLAN, HARB APPROVED PARTIAL DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE LAST THURSDAY WITH A LIMITATION TO THE SIZE OF THE OPENINGS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND A GRAPHIC WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT THIS WEEKEND, WHICH SHOWS COMPLIANCE WITH THIS CONDITION.

THE BOARD FIRST HEARD THIS REZONING APPLICATION ON SEPTEMBER 27TH AND HAD COMMENTS RELATED TO REMOVING THE TATTOO STUDIO USE.

AND THEY ALSO COMMENTED ON COMMITTING TO THE HISTORIC MURAL GRAPHIC ON THE BUILDING.

AND COMMITTING TO THE USE OF 8 DESOTO PLACE AS THE PARKING LOT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THESE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE PUD NARRATIVE THAT IS BEFORE YOU.

THE BOARD ASKED THAT NATIVE PLANTS BE USED FOR LANDSCAPING AND ALSO ASKED FOR DESIGN CHANGE TO ELIMINATE ONE OF THE CURB CUTS ON DESOTO PLACE.

THESE CHANGES ARE NOT REFLECTED IN THIS PUD, BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING AND CAN SPEAK DIRECTLY ABOUT THIS.

FINALLY, A LICENSE AGREEMENT WILL BE NECESSARY TO ALLOW AWNINGS OVER THE SIDEWALK ON DESOTO PLACE AND PALM TREES IN THE SIDEWALK ON GRANADA STREET.

THEY'RE DEPICTED. IN THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

AND IF OUTDOOR DINING IS REQUESTED ON GRANADA STREET, THIS IS WILL ALSO REQUIRE A SEPARATE APPROVAL. I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. THIS IS SECOND READING IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, MR. BIRCHIM, NO.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THE CURB CUTS.

OK. WOULD THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY PLEASE COME FORWARD? GOOD EVENING. I AM THE APPLICANT AND MY NAME IS JAY MCGARVEY.

I LIVE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND HAVE DONE A GREAT DEAL OF DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA FOR THE LAST ALMOST 40 YEARS.

I'M ALMOST EMBARRASSED TO SAY THE OUR LAWYER, GARY DAVENPORT.

WAIT, I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY, THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL, SO.

SIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND GETTING SWORN IN, DON'T MIND A BIT.

AND I KNOW YOUR ATTORNEY IS AN ATTORNEY AND HE DOESN'T TESTIFY.

HE JUST PROVIDES CONTEXT AND JUST A REMINDER TO THE BOARD.

YOU WILL HAVE TO DISCLOSE YOUR EX PARTE AND YOU DO KNOW THAT HIS ATTORNEY IS AN ATTORNEY.

YES, AND I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR 20 YEARS.

I DO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. GARVEY, IF YOU GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY HARB.

MR. BERTRAM ADDRESSED ONE OF THE THREE ISSUES RELATED TO BASICALLY THE WINDOW HEIGHT, AND WE HAVE CONFIRMED THAT THE WINDOW HEIGHTS ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE THAT ARE REQUESTED BY HARB. I DO HAVE A QUESTION AT FIRST, HOWEVER, AND THAT IS CLEARLY THE STAFF OF THE THE CITY AND ONE OF THEIR HISTORIC CONSULTANTS HAVE CONFIRMED CLEARLY THAT THIS BUILDING IS NOT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, NOR IS IT A HISTORIC BUILDING IN ANY WAY.

WE WOULD HONESTLY HAVE LOVED IT TO BE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN US A GREAT NUMBER OF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT EASIER RELATIVE TO PARKING.

LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY FOR SURE, BUT WE WERE VERY HAPPY THAT THAT HARB WAS ABLE TO REVIEW IT. I'M JUST WONDERING, WHY ARE WE NOT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WHERE SUBJECT TO HARB?

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DO YOU ALL KNOW THAT ANSWER AT ALL? THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR MR. BIRCHIM, AND WE'LL HOLD THAT, OK.

SO IF SO, I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE THREE ISSUES THAT HAD BEEN REQUESTED OF YOU THAT YOU, AS THE APPLICANT, ARE NOT ABLE TO, OR THERE WERE THREE, ONE OF WHICH IS THE WINDOW HEIGHTS, RIGHT? WHICH I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE MET WITH.

THE OTHER TWO, I BELIEVE, WERE NATIVE PLANTS WE WERE HAPPY TO HOLD ON ONE.

SORRY. THERE WERE MORE, MR. BIRCHIM SUMMARIZED SEVERAL.

BUT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW MORE COMMENTS THAT I MADE THAT WERE NOT ADDRESSED, AND I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THOSE AT SOME POINT WITH THE APPLICANT.

OK? ABSOLUTELY.

SO GO AHEAD, MR. MCGARVEY, IF YOU WOULD.

WE'RE HAPPY TO COMPLY WITH THE NATIVE PLANT REQUIREMENT THAT ARE SUGGESTED.

I'M CURIOUS THOUGH, TO KNOW WHAT RELATIVE TO THE CURB CUTS THERE ARE THREE EXISTING CURB CUTS ON OUR PROPERTIES.

THEY HAVE BEEN EXISTING FOR THE LAST CALL IT, PROBABLY AS LONG AS WE'VE ALL BEEN ALIVE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY CLOSING ONE CURB CUT WOULD BE A BENEFIT, PARTICULARLY SINCE THE SIDEWALK ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF DESOTO ONLY EXTENDS FROM GRANADA TO THE WEST SIDE OF OUR PARKING LOT. THERE'S NO SIDEWALK FROM THERE ON.

THERE IS AN APARTMENT PROJECT WEST OF US, AND THEN THERE ARE TWO VERY LARGE OAK TREES THAT ARE, I'M SURE, ARE NOT GOING TO BE REMOVED SO.

WELLA COUPLE OF THINGS MR. MCGARVEY, GENERALLY SPEAKING AND OTHERS CAN SPEAK TO.

THIS CURB CUTS REDUCE THE WALKABILITY OF A SIDEWALK.

HAVING SPENT MY ENTIRE CHILDHOOD RIDING BACK AND FORTH TO SCHOOL ON ANASTASIA BOULEVARD, WHERE THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF CURB CUTS IT'S LESS DANGEROUS, IT'S LESS WALKABLE.

AND THIS IS SIMPLY REQUEST THAT COULD YOU REDESIGN THE THE PARKING LOT IN SUCH A WAY TO ELIMINATE ONE OF THE THREE CURB CUTS? YES. AND I DO UNDERSTAND ABOUT SIDEWALKS BECAUSE I'M A BIG FAN OF SIDEWALKS.

THERE IS A CONTINUOUS SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF DESOTO THAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THIS ONE ONLY EXTENDS, YOU KNOW, FOR, NOT 100.

A COUPLE, MAYBE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED FEET.

IF WE CLOSE ONE OF THE ONE OF THE CURB CUTS, WE LOSE SOME PARKING SPACES.

WE LOSE I'VE HAD A CURSORY DESIGN DONE SINCE HARB MADE THEIR COMMENTS AND WE RECEIVED THEM FRIDAY MORNING.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE MAY LOSE TWO PARKING SPACES, WHICH HAS A BEARING ON THE NUMBER OF SEATS THAT OUR RESTAURANT CAN HAVE.

THE VIABILITY OF THE RESTAURANT ARE, YOU KNOW, A DIRECT.

THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY IS A IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE NUMBER OF SEATS THAT WE CAN HAVE THERE. AND SO THAT BROUGHT UP MY QUESTION.

A WHY REDUCE FROM THREE TO TWO THE CURB CUTS ON A SIDEWALK THAT ONLY EXTENDS A VERY SHORT DISTANCE. OK, IS AT THIS POINT, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WISH TO SAY TO THE COMMISSION? AND THEN I'M GOING TO TURN TO COMMISSIONER BLONDER, WHO'S GOT SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS MAY AS WELL.

COMMISSIONER, IS DO I HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND? OF COURSE, ITEM AFTER, SURE, COMMISSIONER BLONDER.

ABSOLUTELY. THEN I'M FINE THEN.

LET ME LET ME JUST ASK ONE QUESTION IS THERE? AND THIS MIGHT BE MR. BIRCHIM QUESTION AS WELL.

IS THERE NO HISTORIC VALUE TO THE BUILDING, YOU SAID THAT IT'S NOT A HISTORIC BUILDING, HAS IT BEEN COMPLETELY REMADE OVER TIME? MAYOR, THE 36 GRANADA STREET IS AN HISTORIC STRUCTURE THAT'S LISTED ON THE FLORIDA MASTERS SITE FILE, WHICH IS AN INVENTORY OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES HELD BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA. IT IS NOT IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

RIGHT.

AND IT IS NOT ADJACENT TO A DISTRICT THAT WOULD REQUIRE HARB APPROVAL THROUGH A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

BUT HARB IS RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING AND APPROVING THE DEMOLITION AND PARTIAL DEMOLITION OF ALL STRUCTURES IN THE CITY 50 YEARS OLD AND OLDER.

THAT IS, THAT WAS WHAT HARB REVIEWED LAST THURSDAY.

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PARTIAL DEMOLITION.

BUT THERE IS A A PORTION, I HOPE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE IS HISTORIC AND THAT WILL BE WORKED INTO THE NEW THE NEW BUILDING OR THE RENOVATED BUILDING.

I SHOULD SAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BLONDER.

OK. AS I MENTIONED, I HAVE A NUMBER OF COMMENTS, AND I'M GOING TO START WITH THE FIRST COMMENT THAT I MADE AT THE FIRST READING.

IN FACT, I'M GOING TO REPEAT MYSELF ABOUT A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT I MADE AT THE FIRST READING. THE FIRST COMMENT I MADE WAS WHERE IS THE PUBLIC BENEFIT IN YOUR NARRATIVE? YOU SAY THAT YOUR PROJECT IS CREATING USES THAT WILL ENHANCE THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE THOSE PUBLIC BENEFITS? I'M HOPING YOU'RE WRITING THIS DOWN BECAUSE I'VE GOT QUITE A LIST HERE.

AND I'D LIKE TO GET THEM ALL OUT BEFORE YOU RESPOND.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THOSE JUSTIFICATIONS STILL ARE NOT COMPELLING TO ME, AND THE FACT THAT THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING HAS BEEN DETERIORATING IS NOT IN AND OF ITSELF A PUBLIC BENEFIT FOR A RENOVATION, ESPECIALLY AS THERE ARE NO DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WOULD MAKE THIS BUILDING OR THE SURROUNDING AREA MORE RESILIENT TO FLOODING.

ALL I SEE IN THIS SECOND READING AND IN YOUR RESPONSE TO OUR COMMENTS ARE MINOR WORD CHANGES TO THE UPDATED APPLICATION, SOME PARKING IMPROVEMENT, AT LEAST TO ELEMENTS THAT ARE CLEARER, BUT I'M NOT SEEING MUCH OF WHAT I HAD ASKED FOR.

I'LL DEFER TO THE VICE MAYOR WITH REGARD TO BRINGING UP THE QUESTION ABOUT WHY THIS IS A PUD AT ALL.

NEXT, I REALLY QUESTION, WHERE ARE THOSE SUGGESTIONS? ALL OF THEM THAT WERE PROVIDED AT THE FIRST READING BECAUSE I DID NOTICE THAT YOU TOOK CAREFUL NOTES.

I, RATHER THAN INCREASING THE NUMBER OF NATIVE PLANT SPECIES IN THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, THE LANDSCAPING PLAN IS WHAT WE APPROVE.

OK, AND WHAT WE SEE IN FRONT OF US IS ONE NATIVE SPECIES.

THERE IS NO SUSTAINABILITY ELEMENT TO THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, I MENTIONED THINGS LIKE RAIN GARDENS. WHY IS THERE STILL NO SEATING CHART IN THE SITE PLAN IF IF THE PLAN IS FINALIZED WITH REGARD TO PARKING, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A SEATING CHART.

HOW CAN AND I ASK THIS AGAIN? AN EMPLOYEE RIDESHARE PROGRAM BEING FORCED TO REDUCE THE PARKING IMPACT OF EMPLOYEES IN THE IN THE NEIGHBORING AREA? I ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHAT SIZE THE HISTORIC SIGN WILL BE.

THIS IS NOT SPECIFIED AND IT THEREFORE COULD BE SMALL ENOUGH TO NEGATE THE HISTORIC CHARACTER THAT'S INTENDED.

IN FACT, IT IS NOW NOTED THAT QUOTE IN THE APPLICATION, THE SIZE AND SCOPE MAY BE LIMITED BY OTHER ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES.

END QUOTE. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT CURB CUTS ANYWHERE, THERE'S A CURB CUT, WHETHER THERE'S A SIDEWALK OR NOT, REDUCES MOBILITY, IT REDUCES PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLING SAFETY, SO ANY OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE THE CURB CUT ENHANCES ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SAFETY, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND BICYCLE SAFETY, AS WELL AS MOBILITY.

I ALSO FINALLY NOTE THAT YOUR REVISED SITE PLAN AND LANDSCAPE PLAN CONFLICT IF I'M READING THOSE CORRECTLY AND LOOKING AT THEM CORRECTLY.

THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THREE CURB CUTS ON DE SOTO, WHILE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWS A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK. I SEE INGRESS, BUT NO EGRESS ON EITHER.

AND GIVEN THE OMISSION IN ADDRESSING MY SUGGESTIONS AND OTHERS OF MY COLLEAGUES DURING THE FIRST READING AND THE DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE SITE AND LANDSCAPE PLAN, I FIND THAT THE APPLICATION IS INCOMPLETE AND I'LL VOTE AGAINST IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GENTLEMEN, YOU ARE WELCOME TO RESPOND.

ALL RIGHT. HELP ME OUT WITH YOUR NOTES HERE.

ALL RIGHT, RELATIVE, LET ME JUST TAKE THESE, PROBABLY NOT IN YOUR ORDER, BECAUSE THE NOTES AREN'T. I DIDN'T TAKE THOSE NOTES.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. MRS. BLONDER.

THE RELATIVE TO THE NATIVE PLANT CONCEPT.

WE ARE HAPPY TO REDRAW THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, BUT WE JUST HEARD FROM HARB FRIDAY MORNING AND AS BUSY AS EVERYBODY IS, WE, YOU KNOW, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE BY TONIGHT.

EXCUSE ME, I MADE THOSE COMMENTS A MONTH AGO.

OK, I WASN'T I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT, I'M SORRY.

I HAPPENED TO BE ILL AT THE TIME AND I WASN'T ABLE TO COME TO THE MEETING.

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I APOLOGIZE. I WASN'T AT THAT FIRST MEETING.

WE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO SUPPLY AND PROVIDE A DESCRIPTION AND AN ELEVATION SHOWING WHERE THE SIGN, THE HISTORIC SIGN FOR THE FEED STORE WILL GO.

WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME BECAUSE CANDIDLY WE'RE TRYING NOT TO HAVE THE SIGNAGE PUSHED BACK FARTHER TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAN IT NEEDS TO BE SO THAT IT'S MORE VISIBLE AND OUR ARCHITECTS ARE WORKING ON THAT.

I KNOW WE DISCUSSED IT WITH HIM TODAY, IN FACT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE A DOOR AROUND POTENTIALLY TO MAKE IT MORE VISIBLE.

LET'S SEE. WHAT'S NEXT.

APPROVAL.

IN OUR IN OUR APPLICATION, WE CLEARLY STATED THAT THE NUMBER OF SEATS WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE RELATIVE TO THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES AS ALLOWED.

RELATIVE TO CURB CUTS.

I AM A FAN OF SIDEWALKS CANDIDLY AND IN ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES, WE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO CLOSE ONE OF THE CURB CUTS AND THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE THE ONE CLOSEST FARTHEST EAST, LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY.

THAT THAT ONE PROBABLY MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

OK. COMMISSIONERS, OTHER COMMENTS? I WOULD SPEAK ON THIS.

I DON'T SEE WHERE YOU WOULD LOSE ANY PARKING BY CLOSING ONE OF THOSE, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT PERHAPS THE CENTER ONE WOULD BE THE BETTER ONE TO TO DO, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. BOTH OF THEM HAVE HANDICAPPED THERE.

YOU SHOULD HAVE AMPLE ROOM TO MAKE THE TURN.

SO BUT I THINK ONE OF THEM NEEDS TO BE CLOSED.

DEFINITELY THANK YOU.

AND I'VE TALKED TO COMMISSIONER HORVATH.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO OUR ENGINEERS.

THEY GAVE ME A ROUGH PLAN.

THEY DID A COUPLE OF THEM FOR ME THIS MORNING.

WE'RE WORKING ON A THIRD ONE BECAUSE AND I'M HAPPY TO CLOSE ANY OF THE THREE, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT MAKE THE THAT LOSE THE FEWEST PARKING SPACES, CANDIDLY.

VICE MAYOR SIKES-KLINE. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY PROVISION FOR A BIKE RACK.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS FOR A BIKE RACK? YES, WE DO, HOWEVER, AND I KNOW THAT OUR TENANTS, WHICH WILL BE A WONDERFUL COFFEE SHOP, RESTAURANT AND THEN A DINNER RESTAURANT IN THEIR STORES IN JACKSONVILLE, ALL HAVE BIKE RACKS. WE KNOW THAT A GREAT DEAL OF THE PATRONAGE HERE WILL BE FROM LOCALS.

THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A LOCAL GATHERING PLACE.

IT'S RIGHT AT THE CONFLUENCE OF THE LINCOLNVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE HISTORIC, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE ST.

AUGUSTINE SOUTH.

AND THIS IS NOT YOUR NORMAL SORT OF COFFEE SHOP WHERE YOU HAVE A TRANSACTION LIKE YOU DO AT STARBUCKS. YOU GO IN, GET A COFFEE AND YOU LEAVE.

THIS HAS, YOU KNOW, SEATS.

IT'S A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN HANG OUT.

THE FOOD IS ABSOLUTELY DELICIOUS AND IT'S A RESTAURANT COFFEE SHOP WITH AN EXCELLENT BAKERY ON SITE.

I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD SHOW THOSE ON YOUR PLANS WHEN YOU RETURN TO TO US.

HAPPY TO DO THAT. HAPPY TO DO THAT.

YES, I LIKE THIS PROJECT.

I THINK IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT OVER WHAT WE'VE GOT THERE NOW.

WE'VE GOT A STRUCTURE THERE THAT FLOODS, BUT IT'S HISTORIC.

IT'S THE INTERIOR OF THAT BUILDING HAS A WONDERFUL BRICK FEATURES THAT ARE ORIGINAL I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A FANTASTIC RESTAURANT.

I ALSO KNOW NEW MR. MCGARVEY'S DEVELOPMENTS IN THE PAST, AND THEY'RE VERY GOOD QUALITY STUFF.

I'VE SEEN HIS STUFF OVER THE YEARS.

I'M A LITTLE BIT PERPLEXED ABOUT THIS NATIVE PLANT MATERIAL BECAUSE ST.

AUGUSTINE WAS POPULATED BY THE SPANIARDS WITH CITRUS AND LATER JAPANESE PLUMS ARRIVED AND

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AN ARGUMENT CAN BE MADE THERE'S A LOT OF NON-NATIVE PLANTS THAT ARE MORE HISTORIC THAN SOME OF THE NATIVE PLANTS BECAUSE THEY WERE PLANNING STUFF THAT THEY COULD GET FOOD OFF OF. BUT THAT'S A SIDE PRODUCT.

YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LANDSCAPING IS CONCERNED, IT'S IMPORTANT.

BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT AND I'M WHEN IT FINALLY DOES GET TO A VOTE, I 'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE TO THE STRUCTURE.

AND IT'S A GOOD ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S NOT IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, IT'S ON A FRINGE OF RESIDENTIAL AREA.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE THE BREWERY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME BECAUSE I'M OLD RIGHT NOW.

IT ESCAPES ME. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT AREA IS IT'S GOING THROUGH A RENAISSANCE AND IT NEEDS THAT. AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD USE.

IT COULD BE A LOT WORSE.

OK. COULD I ADDRESS REAL QUICKLY THE NATIVE PLANTS ARE THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN IN FLORIDA SINCE THE LAST ICE AGE, AND THEY'RE ADAPTED TO THESE CONDITIONS.

I'M SPEAKING TO THE PUBLIC BENEFIT PART OF THE PUD PROCESS, AND ONE OF THE PUBLIC BENEFITS COULD BE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU CAN LANDSCAPE, LIKE SO MANY OTHER PLACES HAVE AROUND TOWN WITH NATIVE PLANTS THAT YOU REDUCE THE USE OF FERTILIZERS, PESTICIDES AND WATER. SO THAT'S TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THAT, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE PUBLIC BENEFIT. AS I SAID LAST TIME, THAT CONVINCES ME THAT THIS PROJECT IS TO THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT, NOT JUST TO THE DEVELOPERS THAT WOULD THEN KICK US INTO A PUD.

I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I'VE PROBABLY BEEN HERE SINCE THE LAST ICE AGE MYSELF.

SO BUT HAVING SAID THAT THERE, LIKE I SAY, I FIND THE NATIVE PLANT THING TO BE FASCINATING. I MEAN, AGAIN, I AGREE.

BUT HAVING SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SPANIARDS WERE THE FIRST TO BRING THINGS OVER FROM EUROPE AND PLANTED THEM BECAUSE AND THAT'S THIS REALLY HISTORIC ST.

AUGUSTINE THING.

I UNDERSTAND. GOOD.

COMMISSIONERS, I LIKE COMMISSIONER VALDES SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT FOR MANY OF THE REASONS THAT HE HAS ARTICULATED.

HOWEVER, I THINK THERE ARE STILL SOME LOOSE ENDS HERE THAT NEED TO BE CORRECTED.

AND SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS ORDINANCE 2021-25B TABLED UNTIL OUR NOVEMBER 8TH MEETING, GIVING THE DEVELOPER MORE TIME TO COME BACK WITH A MORE FULLER, MORE ROBUST RESPONSE TO THE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED BY THE COMMISSION.

MAYOR, DID YOU NOT WISH TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY? I CERTAINLY DO, BUT I WOULD.

I'LL LEAVE MY MOTION ON THE TABLE.

I'LL WAIT FOR A SECOND AND THEN ASK.

I WILL AT THIS POINT, OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'VE GOT ONE SPEAKER, MS. BJ KALAIDI.

WOULD YOU PREFER THE SECOND NOW OR LET'S WAIT ON THE SECOND.

OK, THANK YOU. YES, I SEE IT MR. SLAVIN, THANK YOU FORGIVE ME MY OVERSIGHT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU.

BJ KALAIDI, WEST CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE, 8 NEWCOMB.

I'M GLAD YOU ALL BROUGHT SOME QUESTIONS BECAUSE I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, TOO IN READING MR. BIRCHIM'S MEMO.

WHEN WILL THIS DEVELOPER BE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN A LICENSE FOR IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY? I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THE [INAUDIBLE].

AND FOR PALM TREES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY MENTIONED AGAIN IN MR. BIRCHIM'S MEMO.

SECOND THING IS IN THE PACKET SOMEWHERE I SAW THE PICTURE.

WILL THE FARMER SUPPLIES SIGN.

IN THE PICTURE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT TOOK UP TWO THIRDS OF THE NORTH OUTSIDE WALL OF THE BUILDING. THE NORTH OUTSIDE WALL OF THE BUILDING, WILL THAT BE THE SIZE ALLOWED FOR THE DEVELOPER NOW OR IS THERE NEW RULES IN PLACE WHERE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SO BIG . THIS IS MY OPINION. HOPEFULLY, THE SIGN WILL NOT BE TAWDRY.

THE PHOTOS OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING, WHICH THE GENTLEMAN HAS AT THE HARB SHOWN ON OCTOBER 21, 2021 WILL NOT, IN MY OPINION, WILL NOT COMPLEMENT THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE CITY.

AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THE SAME THING WE GOT OVER THERE AT PRAWN STREET.

YOU LOOK AT PRAWN STREET AND WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE WEST BANK OF THE SAN SEBASTIAN RIVER, AND THIS IS NOT HISTORICAL ST.

AUGUSTINE. BUT IN GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU WERE ASKING AND IF HE COULD ANSWER THESE IN THE HARB MEETING, THE BUILDING HAS BEEN LIFTED IN FRONT AND THE ARCHITECT, ONE OF THE ARCHITECTS, WAS DISPLAYING THAT.

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AND SO THERE'S GOING TO BE HIGHER UP.

AND THEN THEY MENTIONED THAT THERE'S GOING TO MAY BE OR SOMEBODY MENTIONED THERE MAY BE OUTSIDE CITY SEATING IN THE FRONT.

I THINK IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE PICTURES, THE GENTLEMAN CAN SHOW YOU THE PICTURES THAT HE BROUGHT TONIGHT THAT SHOWS THAT.

AND I ONLY THOUGHT WHENEVER THE HARB HAD THE MEETING AND SHOWING THOSE PICTURES FROM THE DESIGNER, THE OUTSIDE EATING WAS GOING TO, SEATING WAS GOING TO BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE [INAUDIBLE] IS.

SO WE NEED SOME CLARIFICATION AND I 100 PERCENT AGREE THIS SHOULD BE TABLED.

THESE QUESTIONS SHOULD BE ANSWERED.

THE ESPECIALLY THE ONES ABOUT THE PUBLIC BENEFIT, WE NEED TO HAVE IT IN BLACK AND WHITE.

THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT A PUD AND THE PUD IS SO IT CAN HAVE THAT ALCOHOL.

WE ALL KNOW IT AND WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH IT.

BUT THESE QUESTIONS NEED TO BE CLEARLY STATED SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING TO BE THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. ED SLAVIN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ED SLAVIN, BOX 3084 EDSLAVIN.COM.

THE STRUCTURE SHOULD BE A LOCAL LANDMARK, AND IF IT'S NOT, THEN THE PUD SHOULD BE DENIED.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A REPLACEMENT MOVIE THEATER.

WE REQUIRE REPLACEMENT TREES EVERY TIME WE KILL TREES.

THIS MOVIE THEATER WAS A CULTURAL ICON, A CULTURAL CENTER OF ST.

AUGUSTINE IN TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS.

POTBELLIES AND THE CORAZON.

CAN WE HAVE IT BACK PLEASE. THIS DEVELOPER WENT AND BOUGHT A MOVIE THEATER WITH THE INTENTION OF DESTROYING IT.

THAT'S JUST UNACCEPTABLE, AND I FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, ANTITRUST DIVISION AND THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION ABOUT THIS ON JULY 16TH.

YOU HAVE IT BEFORE YOU.

MAYOR UPCHURCH, YOU ASKED ON SEPTEMBER 27, WHY ARE YOU DOING A PUD? WE'VE NOT HEARD A GOOD ANSWER.

THE ONLY ANSWER IS THEY WANT A LIQUOR LICENSE.

AND SHADES OF RAY BLANTON, THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF TENNESSEE, WHO WENT TO FEDERAL PRISON FOR SELLING LIQUOR LICENSES, THIS IS UNETHICAL.

IT'S WRONG. THIS IS A BAD PRECEDENT BECAUSE IF THIS PUD IS ALLOWED THAN ANYBODY CAN BUY ANY STRUCTURE AND TURN IT INTO ANOTHER BAR, THE CITY EVAPORATES.

THE CITY CEASES TO BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE LIVE AND IT BECOMES BOURBON STREET.

WE DON'T NEED THAT.

COMMISSIONER BLONDER, YOU'VE RAISED MAGNIFICENT QUESTIONS, AS HAVE YOU ALL, AND I HOPE THAT THEY ANSWER THEM IF YOU'RE GOING TO TABLE IT, I THINK YOU COULD DO A STRAIGHT DENIAL. LET ME CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO PARAGRAPH 14 OF THE PUD NARRATIVE.

THEY ARE SO BOLD AS TO SAY THAT NO INFRASTRUCTURE ANALYSIS PLAN IS REQUIRED THAT THEY'RE EXEMPT, THAT IT WON'T AFFECT TRANSPORTATION OR CIRCULATION.

THAT DOG WON'T HUNT.

WE JUST SPENT TWO HOURS ON A MEETING ABOUT RESILIENCY.

WE KNOW THAT THE CITY IS FLOODING.

THAT STREET IS FLOODING ALL THE TIME.

WE SHOULD HAVE A MORATORIUM ON ANY FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT AFFECT THIS UNTIL THESE ISSUES ARE RESOLVED.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ANSWER UNDER PARAGRAPH 11, THE LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE ENTITY FOR CONTINUING OPERATIONS, AND THE ANSWER IS EVASIVE.

WE NEED TO HAVE THE NAME OF ACTUAL LIVING HUMAN BEINGS, ACTUAL PERSONS PARAGRAPH SEVEN EXEMPT FROM 7I.

EXEMPT FROM STORMWATER.

NO, THIS NEEDS TO HAVE SOME OF THE UNDERGROUND VAULTS, THE WAY JERRY DIXON WOULD DO THAT WILL CONTAIN THE STORM WATER AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM RATHER THAN CREATING NEW PROBLEMS. IT'S JUST TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

PARAGRAPH FOUR DOESN'T EVEN LIST THE INDIVIDUAL RESTAURANTS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RIDE SHARE. IT'S NOT ENFORCEABLE.

COMMISSIONER BLONDER IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, AND THEY'VE NOT BEEN RESPONSIVE TO ANY OF YOUR CONCERNS. THE OWNERS WHO ARE THE ACTUAL BENEFICIAL OWNERS AND INVESTORS, IS THIS A CASE OF MONEY LAUNDERING? AND THEN WHY? IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT'S HOLY IS THIS APPLICANT.

THE APPLICANT IS A FULL TIME FEDERAL EMPLOYEE WITH THE FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD MAJOR GARY BRIAN DAVENPORT, FULL TIME FEDERAL EMPLOYEE.

HE SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO REPRESENT APPLICANTS BEFORE THIS CITY COMMISSION OR ANYWHERE ELSE. HE'S A FULL TIME FEDERAL EMPLOYEE AND I THINK THAT IS HIGHLY UNETHICAL.

AND I THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SLAVIN. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED, I'D RENEW MY MOTION THAT ORDINANCE 2021 -25 BE TABLED UNTIL OUR NOVEMBER THE 8TH MEETING TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO MORE FULLY RESPOND TO THE CONCERNS RAISED BY THE COMMISSION.

AND I WILL SECOND.

AND I WOULD. I JUST HAVE A SHORT LIST, PLEASE.

LET'S ADD TO THIS. I THINK WE MIGHT STAY ORGANIZED AS POSSIBLE.

WE WANT TO SEE THE CURB CUT ADDRESSED IN THE SITE PLAN.

WE WANT TO SEE A SITE SIGN ELEMENT, SIGN PLAN ELEMENT.

I THINK WE DESERVE A SIGN PLAN ELEMENT LIKE ANY OTHER PUD WOULD HAVE IN CASE THINGS DON'T

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POP UP IN THE FUTURE THAT WE'RE NOT EXPECTING.

BIKE RACKS.

I KNOW THAT IN THE SITE PLAN, I KNOW THAT CIRCULATION PLANS ARE REQUIRED PEDESTRIAN AS WELL AS CYCLING AS WELL AS AUTOMOBILES IN OUR PUD ORDINANCE, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMEHOW THAT ADDRESSED.

I DON'T SEE IT ADDRESSED HERE.

LANDSCAPE MATERIALS SHOULD BE [INAUDIBLE] VEGETATION WHEREVER POSSIBLE, AT LEAST AN ATTEMPT. LET'S SEE THAT I AGREE, AND MOST OF ALL, I LIKE TO SEE A VERY CLEAR PUBLIC BENEFIT AND IT NOTED IN THE PUD.

WHAT IS THE DEVIATION, WHICH IS IN THIS CASE, THE ALCOHOL SALES? THAT IS.

SO YOU HAVE A A MOTION AND YOU HAVE A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR DAVID RIGHT NOW THAT SECOND PROPERTY IS BASICALLY OPEN WITH NOTHING ON IT. CORRECT? NO PAVEMENT. NO.

IT'S A COQUINA PARKING LOT.

WELL, COQUINA. OK, SO THAT DOES PERK TO A DEGREE.

YES, MA'AM. WHEN WE WHEN YOU REVIEW THIS DON'T THEY HAVE TO KEEP THEIR WATER ON THE PROPERTY? ABSOLUTELY.

OK, SO I MEAN, I SEE SOME, SOME IN THE PLAN, BUT IS IT ENOUGH? IN FACT, THEY'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED THEIR CIVIL ENGINEERING PLANS FOR GRADING AND DRAINAGE FOR THE PARKING LOT. IT'S A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT.

OK, THANK YOU.

OK. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I THINK I MISSED WAS THE RIDE SHARE HOW TO ADDRESS THE RIDE SHARE, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT REDUCES, YOU KNOW, EMISSIONS, IT REDUCES CONGESTION AND THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING FOR AND RESILIENCY AND SEA LEVEL RISE AND THOSE ARE ALL HAND IN HAND.

SO I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO START TAKING THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION ELEMENTS AS WELL.

ONE MORE THING I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE ONCE AGAIN THE APPLICANT TO MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO DEMONSTRATE THE PUBLIC BENEFIT, I GAVE SOME EXAMPLES LAST TIME.

RIDE SHARE IS ONE OF THEM.

THE CURB CUT IS ANOTHER ONE.

PERVIOUS PAVERS IN THE PARKING LOT MIGHT BE AN OPTION, AS WOULD OTHER SUSTAINABLE ELEMENTS GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO SHOW THE PUBLIC BENEFIT.

IF YOU PLEASE WOULD, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP.

THANK YOU. FURTHER DISCUSSION SAYING NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

TRACY UPCHURCH. YES.

NANCY SIKES-KLINE.

YES. JOHN VALDES. YES.

ROXANNE HORVATH. YES.

I DID NOT DO A DISCLOSURE.

I DID. I MISSED THAT PART.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I DIDN'T HAVE ANY THANK YOU.

I DID NOT EITHER. SO THE VICE MAYOR DID NOT HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION.

COMMISSIONER HORVATH DID NOT.

THE MAYOR DID NOT.

I DID NOT. COMMISSIONER VALDES DID NOT.

I DID NOT. COMMISSIONER BLONDER DID NOT.

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER.

[8.A.3. Ordinance 2021-27: Changes the City Code to reflect changes to state law increasing small scale future land use map changes from 10 acres to 50 acres and conform definitions to state statute. (D. Birchim, Director Planning and Building)]

MR. BIRCHIM WE'RE ON ORDINANCE 2021-27.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS ORDINANCE 2021-27 IS AN UPDATE TO THE DEFINITIONS SECTION OF OUR ZONING CODE.

IT UPDATES THE DEFINITION OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, LARGE SCALE, I'M SORRY, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, LARGE SCALE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

SMALL SCALE TO REFLECT RECENT CHANGES TO STATE LAW ARE OUR DEFINITIONS IN OUR ZONING CODE ARE NOW DATED AND WE'RE SIMPLY TRYING TO UPDATE THEM.

ADDITIONALLY, THIS ORDINANCE ELIMINATES A REFERENCE TO CHARGING DOUBLE THE NORMAL REQUIRED FEE FOR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE DOUBLE THE NOTIFICATION RANGE BECAUSE OUR APPLICATION FEES NOW REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO PAY FOR NOTIFICATION.

AND FINALLY, THE ORDINANCE UPDATES THE PROCEDURE FOR PUBLISHING NOTICES FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. THE CODE CURRENTLY IDENTIFIES THE PLANNING AND BUILDING DIVISION AS RESPONSIBLE FOR WRITING AND PUBLISHING NOTICES FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHEN IN PRACTICE, THIS IS DONE BY THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

THIS IS SECOND READING AND A PUBLIC HEARING, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM/ QUESTIONS OF MR. BIRCHIM? SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ORDINANCE 2021-27? I DO NOT HAVE ANY CARDS.

I DO NOT SEE ANYBODY INDICATING A DESIRE TO SPEAK, AND I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION. I WOULD MOVE THAT ORDINANCE 2021-27, BE READ BY TITLE ONLY AND PASSED ON SECOND READING. SECOND.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021-27.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF ST.

AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 28 SECTION 28-2 TO AMEND THE DEFINITIONS OF